Why Is Top Six Beyond Newcastle?


Alan Pardew faced maybe the most difficult day of his management career yesterday,  and if Newcastle  had been beaten 2-0 by Hull City – which with 20 minutes to go looked almost a certainty, Alan could have been out of his job as Newcastle manager.

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Alan Pardew – at the game yesterday

But things worked  in almost a miraculous way after Papiss Cisse was brought on after 69 minutes with Newcastle 2-0 down,  and you talk about a player having an impact in his first appearance for the side since last April.

Papiss was simply unbelievable, and he seemed to have been inspired by the plight of his team-mate Jonas Gutierrez, who is fighting against testicular cancer, and Jonas needs all the support he can get right now from Newcastle fans.

Here’s Jonas’  Twitter account if you want to send him a message of encouragement – believe me – given what Jonas is going through now – every message helps.

Papiss Cisse saved Newcastle with two good goals, and it was a courageous fight-back by our lads in those last 20 minutes,  and let’s give credit where credit is due – our players played their hearts out for the shirt yesterday.

Certainly Alan Pardew seemed to get a reprieve in those final 20 minutes of yesterday’s game:

“I have to say thank you to them for that because big sections of our fans more or less took a neutral position today.”

“I don’t expect them to have been supporting me or in any way wanting to cheer for me personally, but I think they just took a view of loving their football club and just seeing what happened today, and I think we did enough on the pitch to win a few friends today.¨

“I think our fans are realistic – they know the top six is beyond us. We can’t compete with those clubs at the moment. But we should be competing for seventh, eighth, ninth, 10th, 11th, we have proven that we can do that in the past.¨

“We are well short of it at the moment and I am not going to jump up and down here for a 2-2 draw at home to Hull, but it’s a stepping stone to that area where this club needs to be.”

Why does Alan keep saying we cannot challenge for the top six – heavens above – we were 5th top just over two years ago – so why can’t we do that again?

The Newcastle manager is making a mistake when he thinks he can lower the expectations of Newcastle fans – we want our club to be in the top six in England – and there’s absolutely no good reason why we cannot do that – we’ve done it before and we can do it again.

Ashley and Pardew and everybody else running Newcastle United right at the moment need a big shot of ambition.

Where’s Freddy Shepherd when we need him! 😀

Howay The Lads!!

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80 comments so far

  • optimistic prime

    Sep 21, 2014 at 1:07 PM

    Comment #1

    I’ll answer this one

    Mike “f**kin” Ashley!

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 21, 2014 at 1:08 PM

    Comment #2

    Errr, I don’t think we need to look past our central defence and manager to answer this question.

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  • Brutooon

    Sep 21, 2014 at 1:10 PM

    Comment #3

    one main reason:

    1) Williamson – a League 2 level of defender who keep playing week in week out

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  • optimistic prime

    Sep 21, 2014 at 1:12 PM

    Comment #4

    Mike Ashley

    Alan Pardew
    Poor coaches
    Etc

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  • optimistic prime

    Sep 21, 2014 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #5

    We should be able to manage bottom six if we keep improving 😉

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  • Bambams

    Sep 21, 2014 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #6

    Lacking still
    1.Dominant Centre Half…….
    2. Proven Striker……(To work with Cisse)
    Have
    3. Tight fisted chairman
    4. Championship Manager
    Result
    Relegation…..

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 21, 2014 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #7

    Bambams,
    I don’t think we are relegation material. There is enough in the squad to keep our heads above water, and enough poor football elsewhere in the Prem.

    Anyway, off out to watch Man U beat Leicester, hopeful with Di Maria and Falcao both picking me up some fantasy points!

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  • rowly

    Sep 21, 2014 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #8

    I would replace Pardew no doubt about it – but the abuse he receives is disgusting and personal and is nothing more than mass bullying. I am more ashamed of some of our “fans” than the owner manager or players at this moment in time

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Sep 21, 2014 at 1:27 PM

    Comment #9

    rowly

    true its embarrasing too considering its going worlwide

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  • catchy in norway

    Sep 21, 2014 at 1:28 PM

    Comment #10

    premier league fantasy football

    nufc blog

    I am 30th

    not bad

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  • c-dog

    Sep 21, 2014 at 1:35 PM

    Comment #11

    Well the squad has not got one player good enough to play in the top 10 never mind top 6. So a few years ago we had a spine. Colo in his prime, a wonderful Cabaye and Ba/Cisse banging them in. Now we have Colo well past it, the average Sissoko and the utterly useless Riviere. What a stupid piece. Graham Carr identifies bad players.

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  • ROSHAN MAGPIE

    Sep 21, 2014 at 1:38 PM

    Comment #12

    pardew is saying the truth for the first time in his life I guess because he knows that under his management we can’t reach top 6 we will be lucky to escape relegation

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Sep 21, 2014 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #13

    This Manchester united side is frightening really. Angel Di Maria is a superstar.

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  • Thump

    Sep 21, 2014 at 1:53 PM

    Comment #14

    I thought we were going for a champions league spot, Pards?

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Sep 21, 2014 at 1:53 PM

    Comment #15

    reports say that MA is NOT going to sack Pardew any time soon.

    well if this is true I hope we get relegated because these 2 tw@ts deserve every thing that’s coming to them.

    when relegation arrives Pardew will be gone and no other club would want him so he would retire early, MA will lose a lot of money if and when Newcastle are in the championship meaning he will have no choice but to sell the club at a cheaper rate meaning he will lose more money.

    BUT my bet is that MA like all chairmen’s has a set objective and I’m thinking maybe between 14th and 10th that MA has this set on meaning that if Pardew doesn’t hit this objective he will be sacked with no compensation.

    just because Pardew has a long contract doesn’t mean that he is entitled to full compensation, last season his expectations was to finish 10th or above which was meet but if we had finished 11th MA would have Pardew sacked with no compensation since he didn’t meet the expectations.

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Sep 21, 2014 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #16

    this clause is in every managers contract regardless of the length he has

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  • TikiTakaAcca

    Sep 21, 2014 at 1:58 PM

    Comment #17

    I never really post on here but i’m going to make a point that I haven’t seen anybody make before.

    We need to make out pitch A LOT smaller.
    It’s huge.
    I’m sure it has to be one of the biggest, if not the biggest in the league.

    Every attack just seems like it’s a 3 on 3 where it’s so stretched.

    Big pitches are for good passing teams who use it to their advantage.

    We can’t do that, so i’m surprised why it hasn’t been moved in.

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  • Santon03

    Sep 21, 2014 at 2:02 PM

    Comment #18

    Mbiwa is starting for Roma

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  • Toon Tang

    Sep 21, 2014 at 2:02 PM

    Comment #19

    Tika , you mean pull some of them Pulis tactics out the bag?

    Didnt he have the sides of the pitch brought in so he could execute the ‘Delap special’ to perfection?

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Sep 21, 2014 at 2:04 PM

    Comment #20

    TikiTakaAcca

    Due to the regulations in the PL the only way to either shorten or widen the pitch is to have a new stadium built.

    Iv’e never known a PL team to change the size of the pitch unless a new stadium was built the only one I can think off is Arsenal with there new stadium

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  • Toon Tang

    Sep 21, 2014 at 2:06 PM

    Comment #21

    B&W , Pulis did it. Check it out

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Sep 21, 2014 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #22

    European Leagues change the size of there pitches but the Premier League can’t/won’t due to the Managers box.

    I also think due to underground heating soil that some clubs have this could lead to more money being spent on pitches and the time for the soil to settle

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Sep 21, 2014 at 2:09 PM

    Comment #23

    Toon Tang

    Pulis did what mate?

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  • Toon Tang

    Sep 21, 2014 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #24
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  • TikiTakaAcca

    Sep 21, 2014 at 2:12 PM

    Comment #25

    Pulis moved Stoke’s pitch in so Delap could have a long run up for his throw-ins.

    So surely we could do it ?

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Sep 21, 2014 at 2:15 PM

    Comment #26

    Toon Tang

    aye mate this was due to European leagues regulations not the Premier league regulations, no doubt when out of the Euro group stages they went back to there normal standards pitch size

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  • Ron Knee

    Sep 21, 2014 at 2:18 PM

    Comment #27

    M-Y-M & Roma 2 nil up!

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  • optimistic prime

    Sep 21, 2014 at 2:20 PM

    Comment #28

    Funny the pitch size is being brought up. Looking at the pitch yesterday I noticed the goal in Gallowgate end had been moved back a foot or so, it was obvious as you could see the box had been re painted and the outline of previous two was visable.

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Sep 21, 2014 at 2:20 PM

    Comment #29

    TikiTakaAcca

    it doesn’t work that way mate as what Toon Tang linked it was because of European games they had to do this because it meets the European regulations.

    lucky for Newcastle it meets the criteria of both Premier league and European regulations with the pitch size and if Newcastle changed the pitch size they would need approval of this but this could also lead to other teams being unhappy of this happening since not only does this give advantage for Newcastle but it also gives an disadvantage to other teams that come here

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  • catchy in norway

    Sep 21, 2014 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #30

    L City not respecting Man U

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Sep 21, 2014 at 2:24 PM

    Comment #31
  • Black and White with an army lol

    Sep 21, 2014 at 2:27 PM

    Comment #32

    optimistic prime

    they probably moved the goal post back so the fans can get hit more 😉

    this is MA revenge lol

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Sep 21, 2014 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #33

    Yanga, lining up next to an old apparant target of ours Manolas, is by all accounts having an absolute stormer

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  • Toon Tang

    Sep 21, 2014 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #34

    I looked at it then and they changed rules in 2012 so the actual pitch size has to be 105m x 68m. So maybe if your original pitch size was bigger than that you could bring it in to meet the new requirements.

    A few years back it was a case of different grounds had completely different set of dimensions. For instance arsenals old Highbury was said to have a tight pitch but the emirates was bulit to specific requirement by Wenger wanting a larger pitch. I think its the same for middle eastlands.

    http://www.openplay.co.uk/blog/premiership-football-pitch-sizes-2013-2014/

    That link has differing sizes B&W

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  • Toon Tang

    Sep 21, 2014 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #35

    *built

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Sep 21, 2014 at 2:32 PM

    Comment #36

    Toon Tang

    aye true mate pitch size has to meet the criteria, I never knew they changed the rules but hey it’s the FA they change the rules as they go along 😉

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Sep 21, 2014 at 2:45 PM

    Comment #37

    Schmicheal with the most bizarre attempted save ever
    It just looked wrong in every way

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  • Toon Tang

    Sep 21, 2014 at 2:46 PM

    Comment #38

    B&W very true on the FA thing marra ahaha They should change criteria to not allow cnuts in.

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  • Toon Tang

    Sep 21, 2014 at 2:47 PM

    Comment #39

    tads, he didnt try to catch the ball in his vagina again did he mate??

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Sep 21, 2014 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #40

    3-3 LCFC!!! Unf**kingbelievable

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