Last Two Gutsy Displays Give Newcastle Fans Some Hope


In the last twos games we saw almost the opposite from the disgraceful showing Newcastle put in when we were taken apart by Southampton 4-0 – for the second season running.

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A stressful looking Alan Pardew last night

Against both Hull City on Saturday and against Crystal Palace in the League Cup last night we saw the Newcastle players play their hearts out for the cause, and last night it got the team a good win after extra time, and that was even though Mehdi Abeid had been sent off after 10 minutes of extra time.

And we have even seen out top two strikers Cisse and Riviere each score  a brace – which is very good – and they were good goals too.

Alan Pardew talked about the fans at Newcastle:

“I thought our fans were terrific, they made a conscious effort to support the team,” “The pressure’s not going to go away from us while we’re Newcastle United and we sit bottom of the league and we haven’t won a Premier League game.”

“We’ve got to put that right and we’ve got two tough away games [against Stoke City and Swansea City]. We’re here for the long haul and we’ve got a lot of games to go.”

“There’s a big, big season still to play. This season there’s still all to play for and we’re looking forward to building on this small step.”

The enormous pressure is still on Alan Pardew – there’s just no doubt about that.

The Sack Pardew group have also announced they will continue the protests against the manager until he has left the club – either by being sacked or resigning – so it’s not going to be easy over the next few games for our players.

But if the Newcastle team keep showing up with the fight, courage, determination and never say die attitude they have shown in the last couple of  games,  the vast majority of Newcastle fans will continue to give them their full support.

And who knows, perhaps we can even pull away from the bottom of the league in the near future, although that will be difficult with very tough games at Stoke and Swansea coming up.

We hope we can get something out of both those games.

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95 comments so far

  • SuperShearer

    Sep 25, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #1

    We should be grateful for two draws? Because that’s what they are, we couldn’t beat Palace in normal time, had to go to extra time. And we couldn’t beat Hull at home, in fact they gave us a bit of a pasting until Cisse decided to make a point. These games are nothing but papering over giant chasms in the team at the moment.

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  • 70TWO

    Sep 25, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #2

    sackpardew.com seems to have lit a fire under his bushel.

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  • geordielad880

    Sep 25, 2014 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #4

    I wanna see newcastle try and play:-

    ——————————Krul

    —————taylor——————-willo
    —————————–collo

    –janmaat——————————————–haidara

    ————sissoko———————tiote
    ————————–cabella
    —————-cisse——————riviere

    With cabella having a free role

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  • 70TWO

    Sep 25, 2014 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #6

    geordielad880 – if all fit, I think the first team would be:

    Riviere – Cisse – Cabella
    Colback – Tiote – Sissoko
    Haidara – Collo – Willo – Janmaat

    There is no need for three slow central defenders as Tiote should act as a ball carrying defender, unfortunately Willo is not quick at covering the flank but covers the box fairly well.

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  • hibbit

    Sep 25, 2014 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #7

    this was crystal palace b team dont get carried away it was better but not good our cb are very poor -slow

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  • geordielad880

    Sep 25, 2014 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #8

    I would never play 5-3-2, but with our full backs i would, janmaat is never a right back, he is a wing back, same with haidara, not good enough defensively, its great having players like that at LB/RB if you have two centre backs who have pace, and also central midfielders who can track runners, and help defensively, thats where we concede most of our goals over the last year or so, players arriving late around the pen spot, I prefer 4-3-3, but I dont think we have the players for it, we let our best CB go out on loan

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  • 70TWO

    Sep 25, 2014 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #9

    geordielad880 @8

    You have hit the nail on the head regarding how we concede most of our goals, (not so) funny how we can see it but nothing gets done about it.

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  • 70TWO

    Sep 25, 2014 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #10

    hibbit

    Think this is a good example of hubris / reality check:

    “Some years after Sir John Hall’s ‘team of Geordies’ rhetoric, half a side of players from our glorious corner of England took Newcastle United into the heady heights of Round four of the Capital One Cup.

    Obviously playing the Palace second string wasn’t the toughest challenge the team will face this season, but it was arguably the best result and performance so far.” – The Mag.

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  • PUMMELLER

    Sep 25, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #11

    Super Shearer

    Hull did not give us a pasting so guessing you watched highlights rather than the game.

    They scored two beauties that could have been defended better (Colback should have hacked the first one away) – but to say we were getting a pasting is boll*cks.

    If you aint seen the game in full, why comment?
    from the comment i am 100% sure you were not at the game/didnt watch it in full. Mug

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Sep 25, 2014 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #12

    Give pardew a break.

    We are doing well. We are scoring lots now. Just need a defender in January and we should do well to finish below mid table. Things are positive and we have good players coming back.

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  • geordielad880

    Sep 25, 2014 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #13

    70two, its almost as bad as how bad we are at set pieces, no near post flick on’s, no short corners, no playing in to the edge of the box, just hit “willo” 1 goal in his time at newcastle, i would love to know what they do in training, the only 2 midfielders we have that can track runs are anita and tiote, sissoko is dreadful at it, or can be bothered, one of the 2, thats the thing with sissoko, he is a beast physically, but does not score enough, isnt a great passer, and defensively average at best, he has an amazing engine, anita is a complete player, not physically strong, good passer, good reader of the game, will score goals in the right team, 3-4 a season, just keeps the game moving, but most fans dont see it, as he has not got flair, he keeps it simple

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Sep 25, 2014 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #14

    Players are clearly behind pardew and we are playing some good football. We need to built in this. Avoiding defeat in our next 2 games is a must and kick on from there.

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Sep 25, 2014 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #15

    Agreed. Most people overlook Anita because he doesn’t shines so much in games. But he’s twice the player colback is. And has better footballing brains.

    He does brilliantly when paired with an in form Tiote.

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  • martoon

    Sep 25, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #16

    Granted we were playing a Palace second team but they still had some decent players such as Gayle & Zaha. A win is a win and hopefully instill some confidence. I’m probably going to take some flak for this but Pardew deserves some credit for making a few changes but still selecting a team and tactics just good enough to overcome Palace. Tin hat ready 🙂
    Also that Zaha is worse than Jonas for falling over the moment a defender comes near him!

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  • 70TWO

    Sep 25, 2014 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #17

    In general terms of the whole club I think it is case of going with what we’ve got, for the foreseeable. Yes the defence is sh#te so therefore more emphasis needs to be on attack, pushing up (thanks Lillo) and hope we have sufficient in midfield to cut out any potential attack from the opposition. However this also makes things difficult for our attacks against a packed defence, as we are notoriously slow at passing and lack incision.

    Last night I noticed there were more crosses on the ground, which created more opportunities to score rather than being headed clear. Again this was a second string opponent but perhaps shows they had at least a whole morning on the training ground. I just hope Pardew has enough time to pass on all his wisdom about how to defend against Crouch & co.

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  • mag92

    Sep 25, 2014 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #18

    Riviere looked a different player with someone alongside him, Obertan played well considering he never gets a game and young Abied is a good physical presence in the midfield far better than Anita.

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  • murvar

    Sep 25, 2014 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #19

    I don’t know what commentary you got at home (I’m abroad on holiday) but Jonathan Pearce was saying all night that Dummett was getting into good positions in their box – and at one stage in the second half actually said ” I wouldn’t be surprised if he scored”! I’ve emailed him for his horse racing tips for this afternoon.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Sep 25, 2014 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #20

    Have to say think some of you are doing a huge discredit to our players for last nights game
    Palace B team?
    Mariapa Hangleland Williams Bannan Gayle Zaha have all featured heavily for palace
    We also started Sammy Abied Elliot Taylor Obertan Armstrong none of which are 1st team regulars
    It was a cup win with 10 men and a good performance against a well organised team who came to our place and held us to a draw

    The lads done well last night

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  • Yohan Kebab

    Sep 25, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #21

    Riviere is in no way a lone striker!

    he had his best spell for monaco paired up with falcao, where he outshone him!!

    cisse had his best run paired with ba

    give the lads a go together and we may actually score some!

    my team would be

    krul
    janmaat willo colo haidara
    tiote anita
    sissoko cabella
    riviere cisse

    our fullbacks as mentioned earlier are too attacking to get away with not having two defensive centre mids

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  • Nattfare

    Sep 25, 2014 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #22

    Was it just me and an overly crappy stream, but didn’t Rob Elliot look a bit on the chubby side yesterday?

    A fine and a loan of to Hull beckons methinks.

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  • Yohan Kebab

    Sep 25, 2014 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #23

    also credit to pardew and the players last night, ive never liked pards and thought he was good as gone, but am happy to eat my words

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  • mag92

    Sep 25, 2014 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #24

    Credit where credits due they played Palace off the park for most of the match, young Armstrong grew in confidence during the game and wasn’t afraid to have a shot, Sammy was causing problems for their fullback every time he went down the line. On the whole a good away result and its the mancs next.

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  • Markaccus

    Sep 25, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #25

    I suppose if Pardew is going to insist on his precious 4231, playing it with a few more forward thinking playerd MIGHT help it work. I would rather he change it, but i suppose the following might work…

    jan
    Willo
    colo
    hiar/dumm

    colback
    tiote

    cabella
    rivvy
    NOT GOOFY.. (perez/arma maybe)

    Cisse

    The three behind cisse are all interchangable and their mentality would (should anyway) keep us on the front foot.

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  • 70TWO

    Sep 25, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #26

    toonarmydownsouth

    It is very nice to gain some positivity from a win and in my first post, after the game last night, I congratulated Mr P for his team selection and am very pleased for the team. Heres hoping it continues.

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  • beermonkey

    Sep 25, 2014 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #27

    markaccus

    in that forward 3 I would put cabella and rivire wide and abeid in the middle

    we also have the option of a amiobi thought he did well at times last night they also we doubling up on him at times as well creating space for others

    you can also put Aarons in the mix when fit plenty of options really no need to play 5 defence minded players there, in 2 games we proved if we set up to attack we score just have to make sure we score more than we leak

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  • martoon

    Sep 25, 2014 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #28

    Markaccus @25 – Funny how Pardew was criticised for always playing 4 4 2 now it seems to be the other way around!

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  • 70TWO

    Sep 25, 2014 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #29

    It is nice to have so many potential central midfielders, when it was just Batty and Lee the team suffered when there was an injury. IMO the game showed last night how players can have good games and bad games but need a run of matches to show their true potential. I was glad to see Abeid again, played well in a holding role and I thought he may go ahead of Anita. When Sissoko came on he showed his experience but other than his physique that moves the team forwards his technique is no more than good and he does not tackle. Colback had a good attacking game and covers but has the occasional lapse. With Anita and Tiote there are 5 players competing for 2/3 places, they will have to be selected on the needs of the team but whether they will have the opportunity to have differing performances and remain, will have to be seen.

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  • dave 1961

    Sep 25, 2014 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #30

    The lads at Sackpardew.com have something planned for the near future but its getting kept under wrap’s so the club cant try to stop it. i cant say what it will be but on a smaller scale to the hull game as getting the volunteers is hard as we do this at our own expense. and last night we were cruising in control until the numpty took off ameobi then invited pressure down the left from that point on we were being out played. but what do you expect when we have a plonker that wants to hold a 1 goal lead

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  • SuperShearer

    Sep 25, 2014 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #31

    @PUMMELLER two questions sir:
    1. Our opinions differ, and as a result in your mind this makes me a “mug”?
    2. Are you pro-Pardew? Of course you’re entitled to be but it would help to establish why you so aggressively went after my comment that after two games in which, in my opinion, the team did not perform up to the standard I would like to see you felt the need to argue to vehemently with me.

    For the record, no, I was not at the game but yes I did watch it all and not just the highlights.

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  • hibbit

    Sep 25, 2014 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #32

    yohan we played a b team and were poor at the back our 2 cb backs make a lot of problems for the team if we had better we could play 2 upfront more often but the gaps are so big we have to have extra cover

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  • Our Toon

    Sep 25, 2014 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #33

    Good result last night, we conceded again though when trying to shut up shop…common pattern here as we start games in the same manner. I honestly think the pressure was off when we went down 1-0, I know that sounds daft. Sammy and Abeid will come good for us and I’d like to see them get more games.

    This is a game we won last year as well and remember we made 6 changes they made 11….so let’s have some realism. We aren’t world beaters, remain cautiously optimistic because a Southampton type performance is around the corner….pardew still needs to go even if we win the next 5.

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  • Mag52

    Sep 25, 2014 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #34

    Average.

    All I said was that I wonder how poor old Laurent and Average are feeling. Nothing about you wanting us to lose – perish the thought !
    Bit touchy aren’t you this morning ?

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  • Our Toon

    Sep 25, 2014 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #35

    Martoon

    I agree with you mate, no idea why some are calling for 442. The formation we need to play is 433, or even the same formation we have now but the biggest gripe I have with us is the lack of movement ahead of the ball. No one moves, players look afraid to try something with the ball. We need to start creating triangles quick passing and plenty of movement. The CF needs support but from advancing wingers/cm

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  • Our Toon

    Sep 25, 2014 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #36

    If I was to summarise last night’s result and game it would be to say it was a good result, excellent to get the win in extra time….Thanks to the announcement of the draw for the next round which killed off the Palace atmosphere when we were up against it. Overall decent but not great, 2-2 over 90 mins against a very weak Palace team. Those rejoicing have seriously had there expectations managed. Over 90 mins we have only beaten Gillingham 1-0, I don’t see much to get excited about.

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  • 70TWO

    Sep 25, 2014 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #37

    Rafael Benítez may be available again in the next season or two if he does not play well in the Europa League and lift Napoli in the league. I hope Pardew does not make it beyond 2016, but will the profit from NUFC be enough for Ashley to seriously spend?

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  • PUMMELLER

    Sep 25, 2014 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #38

    1) i am anti pardew – but cannot fault him for the performances against Hull or last night – Hull – we made a few individual mistakes and so nothing to do with tactics and we were punished – last night we played a much more understrength side than they did and won so i was happy for a change! barring letting in a poor late equaliser!!

    your comment is negative for the sake of being negative and thats what i do not like to see.

    if you have watched the full game against hull you should have seen that we played quite well and definately did not get a pasting as you put it!

    2) – lets stick to having a go at the right people. i dont want Pardew at my club any less than most but no manager worth his salt is going to work for an owner like MA so do not see how we get much better. MA is the issue here!

    If we are moaning about the hull game. have a go at Colback for not doing the basics not Pardew

    3) apologies for the mug comment. was out of order

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  • mindshaft

    Sep 25, 2014 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #39

    Palace ‘B’ team ?? although they made 11 changes, most of those play in Palaces first 11 ( Hangeland, Zaha, Gayle etc) when fit. We also made six changes so can hardly say it was our best 11 ( debatable).
    Decent win, lots of effort – poor defending for palace second goal.
    Pards will be angry with Dummett for going forward so no doubt he’ll be dropped against Stoke
    Abeid was decent as was Obertan

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  • Average_Contents

    Sep 25, 2014 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #40

    Mag52
    September 25, 2014
    Catchy,

    Sorry you’re gutted Catchy. It must be so disappointing for you to see NUFC get a well deserved win.
    Wonder how poor old Laurent and Average are feeling.

    Mag52

    Thus implying I wanted us to lose. Again just because I’m vocal about how shite the king is, and there are many others on this blog who say the same, you presume I want the team to lose.

    Not touchy just asking you to provide evidence of where I’ve said I want the team to lose as you’ve implied this twice now. What? You don’t have any? I’m shocked.

    I suggest you get back to your temple of the king and continue praying he’ll pull through this, not the team, not the club, your hero the king.

    Good luck.

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