Newcastle are currently bottom the league, but a win at Stoke City on Monday night would see Newcastle on 6 points from the first six games, and the Magpies could move into 15th place and above Stoke – the significance of that is we would not be bottom of the league.
Alan Pardew – must get a win at either Stoke or Swansea
The following Saturday we play at Swansea, and it’s important that Newcastle pick up some points in that game too – and it seems that Alan Pardew mist win art least one of the next two games.
If Mike Ashley is to replace Alan Pardew then it would make sense to replace him after the next two games, because we have a two week International break after the game at Stoke.
That break would give time for the new manager to settle in and have a decent look at the players – at least those not on International duty – before our next game at home to Leicester City on Saturday, 18th October, when former coach Nigel Pearson will make a return to St. James’ Park.
There has been an improvement in form over the last couple of games – a great comeback after being 2-0 down at home to Hull City last Saturday, and a good 3-2 win in extra time last Wednesday in the League Cup at Crystal Palace.
And both our strikers Papiss Cisse and Many Riviere have scored two goals last time out – and scoring goals has been a huge weakness so far this season for the Magpies.
Couple that with the poor home form of Stoke so far this season – they have lost 1-0 in both their previous home league games to Aston Villa and Leicester City – and a win is certainly possible.
Stoke also beat Sunderland 2-1 on the road in the League Cup last week.
It seems that Newcastle must get 3 points minimum in our next two games on the road for Pardew to survive in his job, but of course we lost both fixtures last season. 1-0 at Stoke in April and 3-0 at Swansea last December.
Over 50% of fans think we will lose the game on Monday night.
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164 comments so far
ilovetoon8788
Sep 28, 2014 at 9:17 AM
Comment #1We should get a point at stoke. Our aim is avoiding relegation this season and nothing more. Everything else is bonus. Fans shouldn’t expect anything more and support pardew at least for this season.
stuart no9
Sep 28, 2014 at 9:23 AM
Comment #2here we go again Ed — the next 2 games – and the next 2- and the next 2 bloodyhell ed hes been on the last 2 games for nearly 4 years, its no wonder he thinks he’ll never get the sack.
hibbit
Sep 28, 2014 at 9:26 AM
Comment #3ilovetoon why
stuart no9
Sep 28, 2014 at 9:27 AM
Comment #4ilove toon —– we will get beat tomorrow, Pardew has had 4 years ,if he is still here in may we will get relagated, is that what you really want ? away with the man ASAP.
sparky55
Sep 28, 2014 at 9:27 AM
Comment #5Im not sure if this has been discussed in the last week due to me being working away and not being on the blog, but in light of the alleged conversation between a passing reporter in a pub and Mike Ashley where Mike Ashley is alleged to have said Pardew’s on his way if loses tomorrow night (I’m hoping like hell it does turn out to be true but not convinced TBH!)…is it the general consensus of the blog we all hope we lose the next game so we can get in someone for the international break to re-build? …or can’t you bring yourselves to want the club to lose resulting in Pardew extending his magnificent tenure at the club?
scout
Sep 28, 2014 at 9:40 AM
Comment #6we could quite easily beat stoke they’re no great shakes. We would have to same points as sunderland and have won 1 more game than them
scout
Sep 28, 2014 at 9:42 AM
Comment #7Why didnt we get the Tesco money…..
Jeff from Benwell
Sep 28, 2014 at 9:43 AM
Comment #8It goes like this – Pardew had a horrible 2nd half to last season for which he was rightly or wrongly blamed the Cabaye factor or not The owner has tried to rectify it with 7 new singings Pardew in fairness must be given at least half a season to turn it round
dazzler
Sep 28, 2014 at 9:44 AM
Comment #9Jeff,
Why?
He should have been sacked in may.
Toon Tang
Sep 28, 2014 at 9:47 AM
Comment #10Literally sat on the edge of my bed geeing myself up in anticipation of the days monumental Prem fixtures…
TODAY WILL BE A BIG DAY FOR FOOTY
snowdone
Sep 28, 2014 at 9:48 AM
Comment #11Get real, people! Wishing for a defeat is ridiculous. Another 3 points lost. I will always want my team to win, regardless of the impact on the manager.
stuart no9
Sep 28, 2014 at 9:48 AM
Comment #12jeff- it hasnt taken southampton half a season to bed their new players in AND they have a new manager not one who has been 4 years – sorry you are soooo wrong , away with the man
Toon Tang
Sep 28, 2014 at 9:50 AM
Comment #13#clashofthetitans #bigguns #champagnefooty #canhardlycontainmyself #wouldrathergoshowshoppingwiththepeg
sparky55
Sep 28, 2014 at 9:58 AM
Comment #14snowdone
I completely understand you always wanting the club to win, but if we keep on losing we’ll go down…so surely change brought about bv one more defeat resulting in a much better chance of survival with a new manager has to be the better of two evils surely??
Tsunki
Sep 28, 2014 at 10:06 AM
Comment #15Who’s wishing us to lose? Thinking we will and hoping we will are two different things.
Jeff how about rooney what a plank eh? Disgrace of a player in a disgraceful shirt eh? Eh?
Tsunki
Sep 28, 2014 at 10:09 AM
Comment #16I read lesh’s last comment deriding us for thinking we are ‘ the best fans’ because we criticise our players, such as Dummett, and no wonder the young ‘uns don’t progress –
1, who said we are the ‘best fans’?
2, I think the young ‘uns don’t progress for much simpler reasons than criticism
😉
Jeff from Benwell
Sep 28, 2014 at 10:09 AM
Comment #17“`dazzler“““ never lose sight of this “Cabaye pledged himself to us until the Brazil WC then in December broke his word throwing the club into turmoil
Graeme
Sep 28, 2014 at 10:12 AM
Comment #18Stoke, at home, will be very hard to beat – I guess a draw would be our best result, hopefully sneaking a winner when they aint looking!!
Tsunki
Sep 28, 2014 at 10:12 AM
Comment #19Jeff, What say you about the mediocre manure being pegged mid table where they really belong eh? What a classless bunch of see-through flyaway fans they have though. Pack of useless mercenaries being found out, struggling against west ham. Mind in that horrible mausoleum who would want to play well? Eh, jeff?
N1CK06
Sep 28, 2014 at 10:16 AM
Comment #20Jeff,
After the dreadful run late last season. we already have played 5 games this season with not a single win, and Pardew has stuck with the same 4-2-3-1 formation, leaving Riviere up front by himself. If he fails to try a different approach after 6 games, and we continue to perform poorly, Why should he be given more of a chance?
Jeff from Benwell
Sep 28, 2014 at 10:33 AM
Comment #21TSPUNKI“““I have been to OT many times always to support the Mags I have been in the Stretford End in the bad old days as a very young man in a Toon shirt when you had to fight for your life – and you?
stuart no9
Sep 28, 2014 at 10:38 AM
Comment #22snowdone – you may well want us to win , so what , it dosnt make you more of a supporter than the rest of us . i want us to lose tomorrow , so what- it just depends on what we want for the future . I care and want us to acheive things , be up there amongst the top 6. you dont care as long as you can go and watch a game of footy on a saturday afternoon with your mates , so what ?
stuart no9
Sep 28, 2014 at 10:38 AM
Comment #23snowdone – you may well want us to win , so what , it dosnt make you more of a supporter than the rest of us . i want us to lose tomorrow , so what- it just depends on what we want for the future . I care and want us to acheive things , be up there amongst the top 6. you dont care as long as you can go and watch a game of footy on a saturday afternoon with your mates , so what ?
sparky55
Sep 28, 2014 at 10:44 AM
Comment #24what saddens me the most is Pardews mindset. Whether we’re home or away he sets up ‘not to concede an early goal’ whether we’re playing Burnley or Chelsea…it’s always the same home or away…defend, defend, defend for your lives then let’s see what happens. Now if we had for example a defence like Arsenals of the eighties, with the attacking flair of Chelsea over the last five years on the break …then yep… I could see the logic in that…but even though he’s a self professed defence coach, WE HAVE THE WORST DEFENSIVE RECORD OF ANY CLUB IN THE PREMIERSHIP OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS FFS!!…AND ONE OF THE WORST GOAL SCORING RECORDS IN THE PREMIERSHIP FFS…so how is that a strategy that’s going to work?
and then if by some fluke we score first…he goes UBA defensive and we end up losing or drawing because there’s far too much distance between our lone attacker and the midfield so create no more chances and we can’t defend to save our lives.
Is it me cos I hate Pardew so much or does anyone else see it that way?
mag92
Sep 28, 2014 at 10:50 AM
Comment #25Nufc will probably win tomorrow night and Pardew can get the cigars out until the next run of defeats come calling.
Jeff from Benwell
Sep 28, 2014 at 10:59 AM
Comment #26stuart no9 “i want us to lose tomorrow “sorry that does make you less of a supporter than the rest of us .
dazzler
Sep 28, 2014 at 11:02 AM
Comment #27Jeff,
A good manager learns to adapt without his best players, no one is saying we should have carried on our form but regardless of cabaye our run from January was unacceptable
mag92
Sep 28, 2014 at 11:07 AM
Comment #28Pardews at least two years past his sell by date, if he had been at any other club he would have been gone long ago, he is only still here because Ashley gets a perverse thrill out of goading the supporters on.
Transfer Sage
Sep 28, 2014 at 11:12 AM
Comment #29Dazzler
Exactly. Can understand form dipping when losing your main player but not to free fall like we did.
If it was a one off people might let it slide but we had come 16th the year before.
I have some sympathy with pardew, left very short in defence, no real quality of options to change it, any manager would struggle with out CBs
mag92
Sep 28, 2014 at 11:16 AM
Comment #30SJP is starting to resemble North Korea, no singing, bans on the press, body searches for anti Ashley banners, a total lack of communication from the club towards the supporters.
jimmysmith
Sep 28, 2014 at 11:18 AM
Comment #31I think Pardew was probably the right man for the job three years ago, but to take us on to the next level, and to convince Ashley to see reason regarding squad strengthening, then Moyes would be great, and the club would be a great fit for him.
He’s not gonna be getting a really big job, he’s cashed up and he could succeed at Newcastle.
Pardew has never quite had the squad or the game plan, and you get the sense that Moyes might get Ashley and the squad over the line.
It seems its hard for Ashley to recognise that it’s time to move on as far as Newcastle is concerned. Unless he of course doesn’t really want Newcastle to be successful, which is almost too cynical to really entertain.
jon.c
Sep 28, 2014 at 11:25 AM
Comment #3254% of the vote want us to lose what a lot of negative thoughts we are going through a bad patch but let us get behind the team on Monday and support the players
mag92
Sep 28, 2014 at 11:28 AM
Comment #33Pardew doesn’t seem to plan ahead, he buys a centre half then loans him straight out and then loans out an experienced international centre half out and moans he doesn’t have any cover. If you employ idiots then you get idiocy!
mindshaft
Sep 28, 2014 at 11:32 AM
Comment #34Pardew is a disgrace – he’s forever making excuses and is now slating the players for not delivering value for money, he’s still banging on about Cabaye going and generally has lost the plot saying geordies are to blame for poor form etc.
Southampton sold half the first team and spent half of the money received ( 36 million ish) yet are flying in the league playing good attacking football – Koeman is the complete opposite to Pards in his interviews is positive about his team and actually plays to win where Pards comes across completely negative and is making excuses before the game even starts
mindshaft
Sep 28, 2014 at 11:33 AM
Comment #35makes me laugh when people say who could we get to replace pards – Koeman would have jumped at the chnce
Graeme
Sep 28, 2014 at 11:33 AM
Comment #36Jimmy – Nobody really knows what the FCB wants with his Football Club, he probably doesn’t know himself to be honest.
Its fair to say, when he first bought the club, his stated aim was to have “fun” however that soon went pear shaped after some disasterous choices were made with regards Staff and Players.
He isnt a stupid man, he is a very astute, self-made Billionaire, but is clueless about how a Football Club works and its place in the local community or what it means to the fans.
He has realised that the benefits NUFC can give to his SD Empire, by way of constant publicity, which doesn’t cost him a penny, far outweighs the negatives of a hostile fan base.
In Pardew he has a Manager that will toe the party line, will just get on with the job, whatever happens. He is no doubt very well rewarded for the role he plays and providing he stays in the Premier League, the Owner seems quite content.
The football is now secondary to the promotion and advertising of the SD Brand, which is MA’s primary objective, when its all said and done. That is of course a million miles from what the fans expect from the Football Club.
mag92
Sep 28, 2014 at 11:36 AM
Comment #37Let’s hope sack Pardew. com keep their campaign up.
magpie0722
Sep 28, 2014 at 11:37 AM
Comment #38Sparky 55 @ 24
Well said mate agree 100%, the sooner we are rid of Pardew the better, he’s taken us as far as he can, he has no tactics and no overall game plan, looking to secure one point per game will result in relegation, simple as.
mag92
Sep 28, 2014 at 11:42 AM
Comment #39Bottom of the league going into October, after playing mostly inferior opposition doesn’t bode too well for the future under the incompetent Pardew.
Markaccus
Sep 28, 2014 at 11:48 AM
Comment #40I said on here yesterday that tomorrow result is a catch 22. A loss may very well change manager, but we will be in a really poot state mentally, with all but one of the Big Clubs still to play in the first half season. We actually could REALLY do with the three points.
Jon C
The poll asks what we THINK the result will be, not what we WANT it to be.