Is This Why Ashley Didn’t Fire Pardew Today?


We must say we were expecting Newcastle to post a bulletin on their website this morning, saying that Alan Pardew had been dismissed as the Newcastle manager.

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John Carver and Alan Pardew at half time last night

But it didn’t happen, and instead we had a Sky Sports story that said it was their understanding that Alan Pardew was safe this week, and would be the manager for the next game at Swansea on Saturday afternoon.

No doubt Mike Ashley and/or Lee Charnley leaked that information to Sky Sports.

We had been thinking about who would take over for the Swansea game, if Alan had been fired,  assuming a manager couldn’t be appointed soon enough to come in and take over the coaching before Saturday.

The best choice would probably have been John Carver, who was caretaker manager for one game – Blackburn at home – after Sir Bobby Robson had been dismissed in late August of 2004.

But that would have been another likely defeat with the Magpies being without a manager, and we hope Ashley remembered what happened six years ago,  when the club was in disarray after Kevin Keegan had left the club.

The fans held mass demonstrations to try to get Ashley out of the club – and Newcastle was all the news in the papers – much as we are today – for the wrong reasons.

The drive to get Ashley out back in 2008 ultimately failed, when Ashley failed to get a suitable buyer – and we notice that American Randy Lerner is finding it difficult to sell Aston Villa – who won the European Cup in 1982 when they beat Bayern Munich 1-0 in the final in Rotterdam.

After Kevin Keegan left Newcastle, we lost the next five games, starting with a surprise 2-1 defeat at home to Hull City, who had been promoted into the Premier League for the first time ever.

So each game, even early in the season is important, and we have to try to get as many points as possible – and we have to realize relegation is a possibility.

Six years ago everybody kept saying we had too good a squad to go down – but they were wrong – even though we had the 6th biggest wage bill of Premier League clubs at that time.

So maybe Mike Ashley was thinking he’ll keep Pardew on for the Swansea game, and then after Saturday there is a two week International break.

So if we lose again, presumably Pardew would be gone, and we can draft in a manager and have the lads prepared for our next game at home to Leicester City on October 18th.

Everybody and their brother would then behind the new manager and the players – and it would be a full house at St. James’ Park.

It would give us a better chance of picking up something at Swansea by keeping Pardew on, but if Newcastle win or draw that game, we don’t think Alan Pardew will be fired.

The time to have done that was today after last night’s defeat, but for some reason Ashley doesn’t seem to want to do it.

What do you think?

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123 comments so far

  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:06 PM

    Comment #1

    You have the makings of a pretty decent team with all the players he thinks aren’t good enough :

    Forster
    M’biwa
    Anita
    Marveaux
    HBA
    Mascherano
    Tevez

    Shocking that he prefers the likes of Taylor, Gosling, Harewood & Mullins

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  • Belfast

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:06 PM

    Comment #2

    No thanks on John Carver.
    Swamp the deck, get rid of them all.

    Nearly sure I had read Carver is in charge of set pieces on the training ground haha

    Swamp the deck !

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  • stuart no9

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:07 PM

    Comment #3

    stuart no9 // Sep 30, 2014 at 6:55 PM

    RIGHT. —— having gone over all the ways to try and get rid of these 2 disasters , sadly i keep coming back to the one thing that would see radical changes at our club and not just get rid of pardew but get get shot of the fat one too.50,000 people hold the key to which way our club will be run in the future. I know its not going to happen, i know they will still turn up, but it is the ONLY way forward, people need to realise that by going , we will have no team, no club , lower division football, no hope. It is the only way.Sadly , people just cant see past their noses. 1 game – 2 games thats all , just to test ashleys resolve. if not , i am starting to believe pardew is here for good

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  • Graeme

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:11 PM

    Comment #4

    FCB doesn’t want to pay P45DUE off; P45DUE wont resign as he wants the Pay Off. Catch 22!!

    FCB is just as quilty as P45, probabaly even more so, for the current state of the club and playing staff. He is happier leaving the money in the bank accruing a pittance in interest when it should have been invested in at least 1 quality CB and a proven Goal Scoring CF.

    We cant defend our own goal; we cant attack the opponants goal – we should be amazing in Mid-field, but we aint. If this is not sorted PDQ we could be in deep poo before Christmas roles around!!

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  • MonkseatonMag

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:15 PM

    Comment #5

    What! We practice set pieces?

    Carver; “Just lump it up onto Willo’s heed – it’s not worked for 3 years, so the opposition will NEVER suspect we’ll try it again.”

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  • stuart no9

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:15 PM

    Comment #6

    regarding the 2 week break, ? yeah it could be a reason for not sacking the cretin , i dont know but surely the best thing would be for him to do it now- its sad to think a point at swansea could save his job, unbelievable

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:16 PM

    Comment #7

    Does anybody still believe the drivel Pardew is spouting about Tiote being offered a new deal, can you e the loyalty arguably our best player feels toward the club, instead of making him an offer to stay and become the future captain they were willing to let him go to Moscow as soon as the magic number came up, now they are in a strange position, we weren’t meant to be bottom after six games, paving the way for a 8/10M sale of Mr T in January, now it’s lookim with just a year to run, so does Mikey cash in and get relegated or does he let him go for free in a years time, red or black Mikey boy, your call.

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  • Novocastrian66

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:16 PM

    Comment #8

    Perhaps we’re lining up a replacement before he gets the bullet. The rumours about Pardew getting the job and Hoots getting the chop we’re circulating for a while before Pardew was appointed.
    The next incumbent will show what direction the club will go in. Moyes fits the bill for me although very unlikely. I’m losing all hope.

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:18 PM

    Comment #9

    I find it laughable that he persists with the same set piece routine and 4-2-3-1 formation.

    In his deluded mind does he think one day it will all click and we will start winning games and scoring corners or is he that stubborn ? .

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:18 PM

    Comment #10

    Graeme,
    I’ve said it all along that the fat fcuker is prepared to gamble on our down fall but won’t by any means gamble on our success.

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  • SAFC_Rules

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:19 PM

    Comment #11

    Joke of a club

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:19 PM

    Comment #12

    To be honest I think that all of you that backed Mashley to the hilt are getting what you deserve !

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  • toonmanc

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:23 PM

    Comment #13

    Carver deffo no but maybe going back in time to sept 18th might help him rethink his tactics

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:26 PM

    Comment #14

    @ Jail

    I find it crazy that with all the hatred for Ashley NUFC fans haven’t boycotted St. James’ at least once.

    That is the only guarenteed way to get ridof him and I haven’t been in 3 years myself.

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  • ochytoon

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:27 PM

    Comment #15

    JFA
    Completely agree. All the spreadsheet fans are getting what’s coming to them.

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  • JackButler

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:28 PM

    Comment #16

    Its got to the point where I no longer care, Ashley and Pardew are a perfect match for each other, it’s just sickening that their relationship will seriously damage our club while people sit back and do nothing.

    The amount of fans that chant abuse at Ashley wanting out while wearing a Wonga sponsored shirt is so pathetic its laughable

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  • mactoon

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:28 PM

    Comment #17

    The reason why he hasn’t sacked Pardew is because he could still concievably keep the club in the premiership without paying Pardew off and paying a new manager to come and paying compensation to his club. That’s the first priority

    Lets go through the scenarios:

    1. Pardew keeps us out of the top 7: we stay out of European football, Asley doesn’t need to but players to compete = not sacked
    2. Pardew keeps us above the bottom 3 we stay in the premiership where the money is = not sacked
    3. We are in the bottom 3 and we still have the chance to get OUT of the bottom 3: not sacked (current scenario)
    4. It is obvious we will be in danger of STAYING in the bottom 3 just before the Jan transfer window: he buys players in January or = sacked (in that order possible scenario coming up)

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  • Go toon gooooo

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:35 PM

    Comment #18

    Maybe that is the reason.Maybe not.But one thing is for sure.If Pardew lose next two games he’ll leave this football club.And the interesting thing is that imo he is close to have a good game at Swansea.It depends on him.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:35 PM

    Comment #19

    mactoon,
    If the fat fcuker could take 17th and finish the season now while keepin Pardew he’d take your hand off, he does not give a hoot about the quality of football or pride of position, we have been saying this for years now, I’m with Jack Butler, I’m really starting not to care anymore.

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:35 PM

    Comment #20

    Garcia not playing a defensive midfielder away to Man City yet we play two at home to the likes of Hull FFS .

    Garcia would have been perfect for us and he would have worked wonders with our French lads.

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  • mag92

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:38 PM

    Comment #21

    He probably didn’t sack him to prove the journalist was wrong about his drunken tirade, but will leave sacking him until after the Swansea City game.

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:39 PM

    Comment #22

    Big Pappa, I’m sure he would have 🙁

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  • geordie157

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:40 PM

    Comment #23

    On a brighter note nice to see Raylor got 45mins under his belt in a behind doors match with Perez scoring 4.

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  • ochytoon

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:42 PM

    Comment #24

    I think this is the low point for me. Forget relegation, forget Shepard and his reckless decisions, and forget the dismantling on the entertainers. At least during all of those times we were a football club. We wanted to win, we wanted to entertain, and we wanted to be successful. Ashley wasn’t always bad for us but when he went down and we turned on him, he became the most vindictive, spiteful, petty bugger I’ve known in the football world.

    We are an empty shell of a club now. We bring in cheap foreign imports with the aim of selling them off within 18 months. There is no intention to bring in the best players available to us and breed a culture of success. We have no interest in cup football or winning anything period. It’s disgraceful that the club obviously have this opinion behind closed doors, but to come out publicly and admit it makes me ashamed to even be associated with the team.

    All we are is an advertising vehicle for our spiteful owner’s tacky sports chain. And as long as he owns us, that’s all he’ll ever be. He didn’t back Pardew in the transfer window, he simply replaced some of the players we’ve lost over the past two years with the Cabaye and Debuchy money. Additionally, Pardew knows this is the best job he’ll ever have so he’s more than happy to be a yes man.

    I hate that I don’t look forward to the weekend anymore. I know I might as well stop watching if we concede first because the chances are slim to none that we’ll actually turn it around and win. I no longer care for any of the players who are clearly all using us as a stepping stone with the hope of achieving what Cabaye, Debuchy, and Ba have done respectively. I have no emotional attachment anymore; I watch because I feel obligated, not because I want to. I go into every game expecting us to lose or at best draw. I’m not a fan asking for us to win the league, something which many pundits assume about all of us, I’m asking for us to go out on the pitch and have a real go. I want us to attack and show pride for the shirt.

    But at the end of the day, what can we really do? The fans who go to matches are clearly happy enough with what they’re paying to watch. We can moan about Ashley all we want but as long as 50,000 still show up to games then we deserve him quite frankly. It’s sad but it’s the unfortunate truth.

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  • jonobbad

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:44 PM

    Comment #25
  • ochytoon

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:45 PM

    Comment #26

    Everything started going downhill for us when Shearer retired. If only we’d got Rooney all those years ago, how different this all could have been…

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  • ochytoon

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:47 PM

    Comment #27

    jonobbad
    No “pundit” nowadays has a clue about any team outside of the top 4. The amount of “pundits” saying Southampton were destined for relegation this season was laughable.

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  • scout

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:49 PM

    Comment #28

    I think we will loose (theres one for whoever complained about spelling earlier lol) to swansea.
    The players are shot to bits, that team last night lacked shape badly. Even Hartlepool would have created a few half chances like we did.
    If I was MA I’d have sacked him at half time, could see how villa and Leicester won there

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  • banjax

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:50 PM

    Comment #29

    Yes ED. I said exactly this and a bit more in an earlier post !

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  • Graeme

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:50 PM

    Comment #30

    Jail @ 10 – The FCB has no interest in NUFC as a Football Club, not the way we the fans do. He couldn’t care less as long as we are in the Premier Leage and provide World Wide Advertising, for his main business – SD – That would appear to be his only interest or concern.

    P45DUE is there to ensure we put a team out, however poor it is, Pardew has little, or no say, in player buying or selling. If he keeps us in the Premier League then he has fulfilled FCB’s instructions.

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  • ochytoon

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:51 PM

    Comment #31

    Football culture has changed. What was once the working mans sport, now belongs to the upper middle class. The Italian league, despite declining in quality, has remained in the hands of true fans and not those who support teams because they’re fashionable. I don’t condone the violence of the Ultra groups there at all but there is something to be admired about their influence over their respective teams, and the passion they have for their clubs.

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  • scout

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:51 PM

    Comment #32

    Comment 25

    we also kicked the Arxx out of Shearer if he was at Man u he would have been finished a year earlier

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  • jonobbad

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:52 PM

    Comment #33

    No the article must be a wind up. Literally every word is BS

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  • ochytoon

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:52 PM

    Comment #34

    Everyone calls the Premier League the greatest in the world but the atmosphere in stadiums is akin to that of the Dutch league now. Everyone’s so scared of the resurgence of hooliganism that any passion is immediately clamped down on.

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  • stuart no9

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:53 PM

    Comment #35

    mactoon— his future will have to be sorted out well before jan, by that time we could be in a position that there will be no way back. I f Ash leaves it that late he risks going down. We have to start winning or change personel in the next few weeks, If Burnley start producing , palace and the like , we will be in deep dung , to late for any new manager i think.

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  • ochytoon

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:54 PM

    Comment #36

    scout
    At least he would have won pretty much everything if he was at Man United though. I will be forever grateful for his years of loyalty but he deserved a lot better truthfully. I feel bad for him.

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:55 PM

    Comment #37

    The Germans (with the exeption of Bayern) are running clubs they way they should be run and their fans are brilliant.

    Dortmund are my second team after NUFC.

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  • ochytoon

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:57 PM

    Comment #38

    BPC
    Spot on. The German league is the shining example of fan/owner cooperation. Probably the best atmospheres in Europe

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  • scout

    Sep 30, 2014 at 7:58 PM

    Comment #39

    Reading that article has got me fuming, Londons full of chicken shops if he wants to talk takeaways.
    Proud to be associated with SD??? Yeah zero hours contract robbing Fuxks.

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  • jonobbad

    Sep 30, 2014 at 8:00 PM

    Comment #40

    Scout
    It had exactly the same effect on me.
    I can’t believe he had the nerve to write it!

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