What Happened With This Frenchman At Newcastle?

Former Newcastle left back Olivier Bernard has been interviewed in the Chronicle today, and he has said Newcastle should do everything in their power to recall defender Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa from his season long loan deal at Roma, where he has been playing some great football, and this week was recalled to the French squad.

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Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa at Newcastle

This is a rare case of a Frenchman arriving at Newcastle and his career not going forward, but the 25 year-old has lost no time since he’s been in Rome in proving he’s still a good player.

This is what Olivier has said in the Chronicle:

“I really, really didn’t agree with the club on that one.” “I can’t understand it. I know Mapou and he has been the best defender in France for the past five years.” He was regularly getting in the France squad and I was delighted when he came to Newcastle.”

“But as soon as he came he was playing right-back, left-back and not enough in his proper position, which is centre-back. He is too experienced as a player to be playing right-back and left-back – he is not even left-footed.”

“He just did not get a chance at Newcastle and when you see him getting in the France team and doing well for Roma, I just do not understand Newcastle’s decision to allow him to go out on loan.”

“Of course I would never have let him go.” “We were not strong enough to allow such a good player to go out on loan. We have been struggling at the back all season, and we allow such a good player to go out on loan. I don’t understand it.”

Even when the news was that Newcastle may let Mapou leave over the summer, Mapou played quite a few games in the pre-season friendlies and seemed to play quite well, and we were hoping he would be kept for another season to give him more time to adjust to the Premier League.

But then on that last day of the transfer window he was gone, and our defense isn’t just a poor one, but we are now short of a center-back – at least until January.

Another mistake by Newcastle in a transfer window,  by allowing  a player to leave (for the money?),  and not replacing him.

But there’s just no way Newcastle will be able  to get Mapou to return to Tyneside, and it’s a lot more likely Newcastle will sell him to Roma, and that fee has already been agreed via the loan contract – so that fact he has been playing well in Italy will not even help raise the fee.

For whatever reason, it seems Newcastle were unable to get the best out of Mapou  – maybe it was because he wasn’t played in his best position at center-half, but he also had some terrible games for Newcastle, when he looked way out of his depth in the Premier League.

Some will say it’s proof that Pardew cannot get the best out of his players – and Yanga-Mbiwa and Ben Arfa leaving on that last day of the transfer window were a case of two good players leaving Newcastle – who have great ability nonetheless.

Maybe it was because the Premier League didn’t suit the Frenchman’s style, and Italian football is far less physical and not as quick.

But we’ll probably never know, and it’s a little disconcerting that he is playing so well now in Italy and we continue to struggle in defense.

There seems something wrong somehow.

What do you think?

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16 comments so far

  • MassiveG

    Oct 11, 2014 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #1

    Who wants to be first to explain to Bernard the concept of being Pardewed??

  • magscar

    Oct 11, 2014 at 9:01 AM

    Comment #2

    Perhaps intention of this an HBA’s loan was to free up room for incoming players. BUT Ashley’s famed only at the right price even if we wait until last minute as usual cost us.

    I read Lacazette transfer was a possibility in final days but French club stuck out for their price and we missed out.

    Have mixed views on Mbwia as he was atroviuos in some games

  • toonarmydownsouth

    Oct 11, 2014 at 9:01 AM

    Comment #3

    What went wrong Ed?
    Hmmm it’s taken the lad, what, 8-10 games? To cement himself as a starting CB for Roma domestically and in the CL, against English opposition btw in a game where he was fantastic, and earn himself an international call up……
    All in 8-10 games….

    What happened Ed? Pardew f**king happened

  • Lost Plot

    Oct 11, 2014 at 9:03 AM

    Comment #4

    If it basically about him being outta position at Toon because of Pardew selecting his Golden Boys (Alan is probably humping their missus’s)

    Can players be recalled just coz we have players underperfoming or does it have to in cover of injury/illness?

  • toonarmydownsouth

    Oct 11, 2014 at 9:05 AM

    Comment #5

    Free up room for incoming players? They got pushed out the door on the last day of the window, seeing as it takes us weeks to complete a signing I’m not sure what evidence there is to suggest they were shipped out to free up spaces for incoming players?

  • magscar

    Oct 11, 2014 at 9:05 AM

    Comment #6

    Sorry atrocious even though I had high hopes for him as CB. My guess is that coaches didn’t see him settling in or he is unsettled and wanted regular game.

    Still uncertain he would be as successful anywhere in PL at this stage of his career but s little bit older could be outstanding.

  • Go toon gooooo

    Oct 11, 2014 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #7

    He fitted very well in Italian handball league.Slow,defensive league 100%.If football is a GAME that’s not it in that country.And nostalgia is not pleasant thing also.Some player goes 2km away and suddenly transforms in something else.No way.But still I want to see broken partnership with Williamson again.Certainly,not necessarily.In other words:nothing scary that he is not here.

  • toonarmydownsouth

    Oct 11, 2014 at 9:09 AM

    Comment #8

    Lost Plot
    Someone on here a while ago said they had a fee agreed of £5-6 mil at the end of the season
    If they have a fee agreed for Yanga there will be no recall clause at all and we’ll be letting go a CL standard, full international CB for less than we paid for him 18 months ago because some f*ckwit decided he was best used as a makeshift RB

  • magscar

    Oct 11, 2014 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #9

    To on army down south

    Only trying to make sense of what I can agree are strange actions.

    Alternative Ashley wanted reduction in wages bill of those players who would only be played if the worst happened . Others at the club might have not fully agreed but their views are not pivotal where finances are concerned.

    I see little point in describing everything the club does as cretinous. Easy but I would rather try to understand what may be going on than carp about and leave it at that.

    Which is better a blog in agreement with pats on the back all around or a range of opinions leading to discussion.

  • toonarmydownsouth

    Oct 11, 2014 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #10

    Lost Plot
    Someone said a while ago Roma have a fee agreed of £5-6 mil for Yanga at the end of the season

    If that’s the case then there will be no recall clause, and we’ll be letting go a CL standard CB go for less than we paid for him 18 months ago simply because our manager didn’t have the bottle to drop a woefully out of form Colo at the time who wanted away at the time so instead used him an emergency RB

  • Mag52

    Oct 11, 2014 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #11

    So the Sack Pardew PR machine is clearly being cranked up. Olivier Bernard toeing the line that AP played Mbiwa out of position. If Perchino can play in any one of the back four positions I’m sure a French international should be able to.

  • Jeff from Benwell

    Oct 11, 2014 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #12

    MYM said to the Italian press that the EPL frightened him and his game is more suited to Le Ligue and SerieA

  • toonarmydownsouth

    Oct 11, 2014 at 9:20 AM

    Comment #13

    No offence but people have been discussing why utterly idiotic decisions are made at this club for the last six years and have absolutely zero interest in discussing the financial benefits of leaving ourselves with only 3 senior CB’s, 2 of which are injury prone

    I’ve seen some ridiculous arguments for the club and Ashley, that one is beyond absurd

  • magscar

    Oct 11, 2014 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #14

    Lost plot

    Totally depends on terms of contract. Seem to recall some saying there was a permanent deals in offing for Jan 2015 but don’t know what truth is.

    Younger players Like Steete go out on short term deals for development but Mbwia’s is intended as a try before you buy I think. But who tells us anything so we’re make best assumption’s as usual.

  • Papavasilou

    Oct 11, 2014 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #15

    The fee has 100% been agreed. According to the rules of most European leagues and Serie A in particular, loan deals have to include an option to buy at an agreed price. It’s a regulation that defines all loan deals in Italy, so there’s no probably about it.

  • Laurent Robert 32

    Oct 11, 2014 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #16

    That’s because Pardew is a liability and makes players Pardewed.


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