Poll – Can Newcastle Get First Win Against Leicester City?


Newcastle have a very important game coming up at home to Leicester City,  and it would relieve the current rather dire situation, if we can get our win on Saturday afternoon.

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Alan Pardew – Newcastle job under threat

That would give us 7 points from our our first 8 league games , which is by no means great, but it’s a lot better than just 4 points from 8 games.

Let us know how you think the lads will do on Saturday.

How Will Newcastle Fare Against Leicester City?

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38 comments so far

  • firebug666

    Oct 14, 2014 at 9:01 PM

    Comment #1

    We have the team to win this one, unfortunately the inept one is still here with his one dimensional approach, so for me this will be another loss or draw.

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  • toon kk

    Oct 14, 2014 at 9:05 PM

    Comment #2

    We’ll probably get beat but even if we win we still have major problems.
    People will be on here thinking we are top eight candidates.

    We have a poor squad which would struggle in league 1 and a manager who should be collecting a giro.

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  • Ancientcoptic

    Oct 14, 2014 at 9:07 PM

    Comment #3

    I am going for a draw.

    This Leicester side are drilled like an invading army… they will work their socks off.

    I expect that we will play some good football at some stage of the game, but not over the full 90 minutes.

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  • miggy

    Oct 14, 2014 at 9:13 PM

    Comment #4

    our expectations of a football club have been dumbed down its the iluminati in progress

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Oct 14, 2014 at 9:21 PM

    Comment #5

    In light of the ardent defence of MA and his running of the club that seems to be popping up here, and also given Mike Williamsons rally call of hoping to see us become a top 7ish club over the next few years why we currently stare at a 3rd season battling relegation under MA, one of which resulted in relegation, and this season will be close, it seems a good time to post this for those who think were seemingly where we belong…..

    @nufcfans: Happy birthday @seedorf77. Top #NUFC left back, showing racism the red card nowadays. Here he is skipping past Xavi.. http://t.co/PDlTtDb5CO

    Xavi……
    Barca…..
    CL……

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  • Pottz

    Oct 14, 2014 at 9:32 PM

    Comment #6

    How can anyone be confident of a win.

    We will soon be cut adrift from the rest of the relegation candidates.

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  • Thump

    Oct 14, 2014 at 9:36 PM

    Comment #7

    @tads: skipping past? Looks more like he’s just about to lose possession to me.

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  • Average_Contents

    Oct 14, 2014 at 9:43 PM

    Comment #8

    Tads

    That never happened it’s all lies….or so they’d have us believe and by they I mean the club and by the club I mean North Korea.

    If it weren’t for people’s memories or photographic evidence they’d get away with it too, damn you meddling kids 😉

    Then along came fatty riding his unicorn on a rainbow to save us from financial oblivion and by financial oblivion I mean putting us deeper into debt by trying to make a quick buck and relegating us in the process. Woo fcuking hoo.

    Thanks fatty.

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  • Toon Tang

    Oct 14, 2014 at 9:50 PM

    Comment #9

    YES! is the answer to the Q Ed.

    Cisse to bag 2 in a 2-1 win. I’m rarely wrong.

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  • Toon Tang

    Oct 14, 2014 at 9:55 PM

    Comment #10

    tads, the way they’ve worded that makes it sound like the guy in the pic is Clarence Seedorf.

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  • Average_Contents

    Oct 14, 2014 at 9:59 PM

    Comment #12

    This is the article that accompanies that picture.

    Newcastle’s current run of form since Boxing Day 2013 is shameful. That is well established. We’ve all seen the damning statistics covering this period alone and it is a very easy record to refer to given just how awful it is and that it is currently ongoing. Yet I feel that focusing on this particular 10 month period is actually giving Alan Pardew too much credit. It has almost become accepted fact that he was doing an adequate job up until late December 2013. This is very far from the truth.

    Personally, I did not particularly enjoy the 5th place season, I thought that it had echoes of when Sam Allardyce used to finish in similar league positions with Bolton. Other than a sparkling run in the spring of 2012, the football was typically dour and dull, with enjoyable and exciting games a rarity. Nevertheless, I recognise the achievement and since this article is about results, I certainly won’t quibble with those here.

    Since that point however, it has been almost unrelenting garbage in terms of results alone. A brief flurry of form in Autumn 2013 should not detract from this fact. It should not be forgotten that despite the presence of his Guardian Angel, Yohan Cabaye, Alan Pardew has come extremely close to relegating Newcastle United once before and were it not for a unlikely Swansea comeback at Wigan in the penultimate week of the 2012-13 season, I believe he would have.

    This table shows the league table performance of all the Premier League clubs who have been in the league consistently since the summer of 2012 up to now, Tuesday 14th October 2014:

    Screenshot 2014-10-14 at 20.04.24

    Two statistics on this table are absolutely glaring: in more than two full seasons, Newcastle have conceded more goals than any other team and lost more games than any other team, which is a truly pitiful record when you look at the other teams at the bottom of the table and think of how poorly they’ve performed in recent seasons. Villa have conceded only 2 less goals than NUFC, but nobody else even comes close – Newcastle have conceded 20 more than Sunderland, 28 more than Swansea, 36 more goals than Stoke. You can be somewhat forgiven for a porous defence if your team is throwing caution to the wind and scoring lots of goals but we can clearly see this is not the case – only Stoke, Villa and Sunderland have scored less goals than NUFC. Even Sam Allardyce’s patented brand of misery has outperformed us going forward at the time of writing (and conceded 27 less goals).

    The gap between us and the clubs that Newcastle United should be competing with is monumental. When Newcastle finished above Everton in 11-12, Alan Pardew commented:

    “Forget about Everton and Aston Villa, we have put ourselves into a similar position to Arsenal.”
    The staggering arrogance of the man feeds his own delusional fantasies. It doesn’t need pointing out that comparison with Arsenal is laughable but since making that comment, Everton have accrued 47 more points than NUFC, scored 34 more goals and have an astonishing goal difference swing of +80 over us in just 83 games. Newcastle have lost more than double the amount of games that the Toffees have. Everton remain the biggest elephant in the room as far as Pardew’s “poor penniless NUFC” routine is concerned, a club who have consistently punched above their financial weight in recent years through good coaching and management of the team.

    osman

    It is not only there that Newcastle fans look with envy in 2014, but also at Southampton and at Swansea, clubs who weren’t even in the top flight when this charlatan rocked up at our football club. Their points totals may not hugely exceed ours, although both continue to pull further away, but the close-to-par goal differences tell a significant tale – occasionally they win handsomely and they don’t often get smashed to bits. Neither of these things can be said of NUFC.

    It is not seven games. It is not even ten months. And it is definitely not “mass hysteria”. Newcastle fans have been driven to despair by more than two years of miserable failure and as we approach the difficult fixtures following one of the most favourable starts to a season I can remember, those defeats and conceded goals will only increase under this fraud. If Alan Pardew remains in post throughout the harsh winter, it is an increasingly likely possibility that Newcastle will not even feature in this table next season.

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  • stan anderson

    Oct 14, 2014 at 10:04 PM

    Comment #13

    So Beardsley backs the regime,well add him to the list of the unwanted coaches at the club and Ashley of course.Unless we are all wrong about them and they will come good given the time.WTF is going on at the club.Disgusted with the whole lot of them.

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  • Small World

    Oct 14, 2014 at 10:07 PM

    Comment #14

    Mister Tuff // Oct 14, 2014 at 4:19 PM

    RE: the tax discussion earlier.

    OK I don’t want this to drag on, but thought it best to reply to you about my earlier thinking. I don’t know Ashley’s full tax position – but the principle is easy to explain. It is clear he thought it worth “moving” about £130 million from 1 pot to another

    For arguments sake.

    MASH holdings is doing well and has a pot of money made through trading and will be subject to tax capital gains & corporation tax. A simple way to minimise that tax for a particular year / period of years is to reduce the cash profit by acquiring an asset. In tax terms a loan made by MASH to NUFC is deemed to be acquiring an asset. By loaning the money it will immediately reduce its tax bill.

    Meanwhile NUFC by receiving that loan (interest free), reduces it costs and subsequent losses as it no longer has interest payments to make to the bank.

    In one step Ashley has reduced his tax bill in one business and also minimised the losses in a business he is trying to turn around and sell at a later date.

    If the debt is paid back by NUFC – it places to onus on MASH holdings to pay the tax it was trying to minimise / avoid (pick your own words).

    Here’s the bit people won’t like. There is actually no longer a debt. Both MASH and NUFC are 100% owned by Mike Ashley – to do with as he likes. It’s a bit like you having two bank accounts one with £100 and the other with £50. £25 being transferred between the two would equalise the amount in each – you wouldn’t feel obliged to later pay it back as all yours.

    When MASH holdings sells NUFC it immediately gets its money back for both the original purchase and the “loan”. There will no doubt be capital gains to then be paid – it won’t bother Ashley as he’ll re-invest and put off the tax payment yet again.

    He’s not evil doing this. It is what all businesses do. If anybody really wants to carry on this thread of discussion – I suggest you either get a hobby other than football or maybe enrol on an accountancy course :0)

    .. this all started when I came to the defence of Bill-Son who had made valid point….

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  • toon kk

    Oct 14, 2014 at 10:09 PM

    Comment #15

    With Cisse in our squad we have a chance of nicking the odd goal which will hopefully get us points, but if he picked up an injury we could go weeks without scoring one goal. We’d be happy with 0-0 draws.
    what a pathetically run club.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 14, 2014 at 10:21 PM

    Comment #16

    Small world,
    You make it out like he has done us a favour,but you don’t mention the free advertising SD firetrap etc get for free,either we lose 8M a year in interest payments or advertising revenue, Mash ley however saves paying tax on the interest he would have incurred and gets his free advertising, how does he pay us back,by not buying a player for eighteen months.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Oct 14, 2014 at 10:32 PM

    Comment #17

    Can newcastle get first win against Leicester city

    What an annoying question.

    It’s like saying will we be going back in for Big Andy in January window.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Oct 14, 2014 at 10:34 PM

    Comment #18

    You should have said can newcastle win any match this season.

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  • Small World

    Oct 14, 2014 at 10:37 PM

    Comment #19

    Jail for Ashley // Oct 14, 2014 at 10:21 PM

    I don’t intend to make it seems as though Ashley has done “us” a favour. On one level he has done NUFC limited a favour – which is him. it is his business whether you or I like it or not.

    Ultimately he is in it for himself and it is transparent how he is going about it. I’d have rather he hadn’t bought the club – however that’s now history. re the advertising you’re right to an extent. Though it is still the same principle as MASH working to the benefit of NUFC. He appears to only view his assets as a whole and in this case sees the ability for one of them, NUFC, help boost figure of another i.e. any one of his tatty sports brands

    He’s not a football guy and never will be. We’re one small cog in very big machine and it’s not much fun.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Oct 14, 2014 at 10:39 PM

    Comment #20

    What we all need to do now is all have a sing song.

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  • mecannylad

    Oct 14, 2014 at 10:39 PM

    Comment #21

    You can debate the financials until the cows come home.
    Mike Ashley’s primary achilles heel at NUFC is in my opinion his crass inability to recruit good football men into a range of senior management roles .
    If he can get this aspect right then we could actuallybe pleasantly surprised.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Oct 14, 2014 at 10:46 PM

    Comment #22

    small world – thank you for that further explanation.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 14, 2014 at 10:52 PM

    Comment #23

    I still don’t see what favour he has done the club. He is making fortunes out of us, people still go on about the millions Hall/Shepherd took, mashers is taking millions every year in lost revenue, the money is going somewhere.

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  • jayphoto

    Oct 14, 2014 at 10:56 PM

    Comment #24

    Small cog in a giant Ashley machine sums it up!
    Said it before and il say it again, no matter what he does, the geordie pain doesn’t get press anywhere but newcastle!
    Pardews on a run of 5 wins in a year yet down here in london the press are making out geordies are rash and out of line for wanting him gone! Speak to anyone not a geordie and most assume pardews a good manager and plays good football! Same reason you’ll never see Ashley described as a bad owner! Outside of newcastle ashley is played as the victim! It doesnt matter what press he gets in newcastle because everywhere else describes what happens as negative to geordies And pro ashley!

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  • lesh

    Oct 14, 2014 at 10:58 PM

    Comment #25

    Small World

    Bet your thoughts on THE debt aren’t too far away from the reality.

    C’mon, cough up, PwC or Deloitte are we?

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  • welshgeordie9

    Oct 14, 2014 at 11:08 PM

    Comment #26

    What happens to a frog’s car when it breaks down?
    It gets toad away.

    Get it toad away

    Ha ha ha

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Oct 14, 2014 at 11:18 PM

    Comment #27

    Welsh

    Who are the nominations for the doppelganger and paranoia awards?

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  • 70TWO

    Oct 14, 2014 at 11:20 PM

    Comment #28

    AP league stats for whole NUFC career (11.12.10 – 14.10.14):

    PLY143 W51 (36%) D33 (23%) L59 (59%)

    GF189 GA224 GD-35 PTS186 (43% of available)

    1.3 points per game which is generally below half way but above relegation

    Can anyone include the results of cup competitions?
    I predict the stats will be worse

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  • 70TWO

    Oct 14, 2014 at 11:22 PM

    Comment #29

    SORRY NEEDED TO EDIT

    Alan Pardew Premier League stats for whole NUFC career (11.12.10 – 14.10.14):

    PLY143 W51 (36%) D33 (23%) L59 (41%)

    GF189 GA224 GD-35 PTS186 (43% of available)

    1.3 points per game which is generally below half way but above relegation

    Can anyone include the results of cup competitions?
    I predict the stats will be worse

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  • thejokethatisnufc

    Oct 14, 2014 at 11:22 PM

    Comment #30

    Welsh geordie LOL

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  • welshgeordie9

    Oct 14, 2014 at 11:28 PM

    Comment #31

    27Blackley and Brownlie

    Where’s your sense of humour.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Oct 14, 2014 at 11:28 PM

    Comment #32

    I should be on the stage.

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  • Small World

    Oct 14, 2014 at 11:31 PM

    Comment #33

    lesh // Oct 14, 2014 at 10:58 PM

    I’m a small business owner (not an accountant) who takes a interest in investments / finance and this is really the last time I will ever bring the subject matter up….

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  • welshgeordie9

    Oct 14, 2014 at 11:36 PM

    Comment #34

    Right last one for tonight, if don’t laugh at this then you lot are right miserable lot.

    Mr. and Mrs. Brown had two sons. One was named Mind Your Own Business & the other was named Trouble. One day the two boys decided to play hide and seek. Trouble hid while Mind Your Own Business counted to one hundred. Mind Your Own Business began looking for his brother behind garbage cans and bushes. Then he started looking in and under cars until a police man approached him and asked, “What are you doing?” “Playing a game,” the boy replied. “What is your name?” the officer questioned. “Mind Your Own Business.” Furious the policeman inquired, “Are you looking for trouble?!” The boy replied, “Why, yes.”

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Oct 14, 2014 at 11:46 PM

    Comment #35

    Small World

    How will loaning money immediately reduce the tax bill? I can see it would reduce the loss in one more than it would increase the profit in the other.

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  • toonking

    Oct 15, 2014 at 12:20 AM

    Comment #36

    i read that now beardsley has come out with opinions that back the owner!

    pardew can come out with all sorts of rubbish but as peter beardsley a legend to newcastle, has said himself a positive opinion on the owner, it clear as day the only people who will be allowed at newcastle are people who act like puppets, deep down i don’t believe any of what beardsley has said i believe he is just being forced to stay positive about the owner.

    more and more evidence gets shown every year.

    we see how much slavery he has at his SD buissness

    We’ve seen him sack chris hughton sitting 10th in the table yet keep pardew when we are fighting relegation strangely that was the season carroll was getting sold.

    barton was not allowed to remain at the club when he had a negative view on the owner.

    JFK was sacked last year and it seemed to be because of him not getting enough money for cabaye.

    most ashleys appointments have been people he knows well.

    the clearest sign of all is that mike himself has NOT once spoken out publically about the club.

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  • 70TWO

    Oct 15, 2014 at 12:20 AM

    Comment #37

    Further to the above stats on AP@NUFC if the team were able to achieve 15 points by the 15th match this season the percentages and points per match will be exactly the same. However I hope we would be out of the relegation zone and feeling a little less stressed.

    It is going to be a long old season of struggle and if Pardew continues, not very respectable.

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  • lesh

    Oct 15, 2014 at 12:52 AM

    Comment #38

    Small World

    A knowledgeable man and you’re forgiven though you didn’t raise the subject – it’s been a running sore and her been for years.

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