Yanga-Mbiwa Plays Whole Game In Roma Disaster


Roma were 5-0 down at home last night to Bayern Munich in the Champions League after only 36 minutes, and ended up on the wrong side of a 7-1 hammering, and Newcastle’s on loan Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa played the whole game at center-back for Roma.

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Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa when joining Roma on September 1st

Mapou has been on loan at the Italian club all season, and the reports are that he has played extremely well, but it wasn’t a good night last night – that’s for sure.

And the Frenchman also had games at Newcastle when he was yanked at half time, such as the 3-2 defeat at Everton last season, when we 3-0 down at the half, because he seemed all at sea in his defending, and let’s just say that last night he did not have a good game.

He’s been getting the plaudits at Roma so far this season for his defending in Italy, and that’s made Newcastle fans believe sending him out on loan for the season and leaving the team with just three experienced center-backs, was another poor decision by the club.

But Mapou didn’t look good last night, although we also have to realize Roma were up against one of the best club sides in Europe in Bayern Munich.

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Robert Lewandowski beats Yanga-Mbiwa to score with header

But it reminded us of the home game in April of 2013, when we were hammered at home by Liverpool 6-0 and Newcastle were 2-0 down after only 17 minutes and didn’t bother turning up, including Yanga-Mbiwa,  who played the whole game that day for Newcastle.

We had three games left in that season and managed to draw at West Ham and win at QPR,  before losing at home to Arsenal, so we just managed to avoid relegation.

Mapou had some good games for Newcastle, but he also had games when he seemed way out of his depth – and last night was one of those games for Mapou at Roma.

Maybe Alan Pardew even knew what he was doing when he allowed him to go out on loan for the season?

What do you think?

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18 comments so far

  • cyprus

    Oct 22, 2014 at 8:43 AM

    Comment #1

    Mag,
    You are right, but I’d say that’s mainly for kids.

    It would seem that people like Marveaux, Routledge, HBA are not what AP can work with. I hope this doesn’t mean Cabella as well. Goals come from such players, it’s as simple as that. Organised defenses dread these ‘magicians’ because they can ruin ‘lines’, tactics etc.

    On this, you sure are quick to justify AP, Ed. Your pro-AP leaning showing there? 😉 Now, follow that up with a ‘greedy Ashley’ article and we are with the programme 🙂

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  • Ibizatoon

    Oct 22, 2014 at 8:44 AM

    Comment #2

    All hail the King!

    I didn’t see the game last night, but I’m fairly certain one defender cannot be responsible for a 1-7 collapse (one manager could mind, no points for guessing which one 😉 ).

    I think the issue with the MBiwa saga is not whether he is a great defender or not, it’s more a question of is he worse or better than what we’ve been left with and regardless of the standard of player, do we have enough cover?

    It helps to remember we still have the same 3 CB’s from our season in the championship.

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  • Santon03

    Oct 22, 2014 at 8:57 AM

    Comment #3

    Well… I watched until 4-0, then I switched to world war z again. the whole team didn’t turn up last night, Totti barely touched the ball, DeRossi didn’t know who to tackle anymore, Nainggolan lose the ball too often, Iturbe almost like a defender than a striker, Mbiwa no awareness at all, Pjanic just dissapeared, Cole is Cole. Bayern was superb, last night they were on fire, perfect game no mistake.
    After 3-0 they just lost the plot and give up. It was a nightmare, they did great away to MCity and at home against CSKA. Last night, they just different team.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Oct 22, 2014 at 8:57 AM

    Comment #4

    So Roma got humped by Bayern last night. All of a sudden MYM is a poor player again? I didn’t see last night, but if a team loses 7-1, generally more than just one player had a bad day. Are we thinking the whole Roma side is now terrible? Howay man.

    My Italian mate who supports Roma thinks MYM has done reasonably well for them. Not as well as some on here want people to think, but certainly more than capable at the level they are playing at.

    Whether or not he would have done okay if we had kept hold of him is another matter. I don’t have a problem with him going on loan, but not relaxing him was ridiculous. That is my main issue with this scenario.

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  • jimmysmith

    Oct 22, 2014 at 8:58 AM

    Comment #5

    Ashley Cole doing a familiar and classic WTF!, in response to Mbiwa standing wrong side and looking haplessly on as his man steals in to gleefully notch another gift.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Oct 22, 2014 at 8:59 AM

    Comment #6

    Cyrpus…Where has Ed justified Pardew in this article? The closest I can see to that is:

    “Maybe Alan Pardew even knew what he was doing when he allowed him to go out on loan for the season?

    What do you think?”

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Oct 22, 2014 at 9:01 AM

    Comment #7

    *replacing

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  • Santon03

    Oct 22, 2014 at 9:03 AM

    Comment #8

    Ibiza

    the problem with Mbiwa, I think it’s his awareness. Not just last night, I watched Roma and Mbiwa 3 times. Manolo saved him many times, it’s like sometimes he just gone blank but other than that he did better than at NUFC or may be the team is better especially when you have DeRossi, Keita, and Nainggolan in front of 2 CB.

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  • Santon03

    Oct 22, 2014 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #9

    Lilo

    It’s just one of those games when everything didn’t work as plan. They were not that bad (including Mbiwa). They beat CSKA 5-1 and Bayern beat CSKA 1-0. It’s just one of those games where everything went wrong and can’t get out of it.

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  • Santon03

    Oct 22, 2014 at 9:10 AM

    Comment #10

    I switched to wwz because I don’t want one of my favourite team got slaughtered by one of the team that I hate. I knew that they were going to get beaten horribly, just can’t watch.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Oct 22, 2014 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #11

    Lil…A good relaxing shouldn’t be underestimated though 🙂

    Santon…I know what you mean. Too many times he’s been caught out and had to make a last ditch attempt to rectify his mistake. However, my point still stands, is that any worse than what we’ve been left with? Bottom line for me is that MBiwa is much younger and has so much more potential.

    I suppose the flip side to that one is that the club can recoup more money for him.

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  • Santon03

    Oct 22, 2014 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #12

    If you watched the highlight, you will know what I’m talking about Mbiwa awareness. It was Lewandowski first goal, Bayern’s 2nd or 3rd goal.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Oct 22, 2014 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #13

    Santon,
    Yeah, having not seen it I wasn’t sure, but I don’t think I have ever seen a team lose by more than a few goals where only 1 player is to blame. To say MYM is terrible because they conceded 7 to Bayern is like saying Schmeichel was a terrible keeper because he conceded 5 at Newcastle. Utter nonsense. A bad game, sure, compounded by everyone having a bad game.

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  • Santon03

    Oct 22, 2014 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #14

    Ibiza

    Can’t really say, they have Rudy Garcia who played different style of football. Just like Cabaye was great with us and useless with PSG or Ba with us and Chelsea. Different teamates, different style, tactic, can’t really say if he is better than Colo or Willo or Saylor under pardew.

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  • Santon03

    Oct 22, 2014 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #15

    Lilo

    just like I said at #3, the whole team was somewhere else, they just gone. Yes Mbiwa has part to blame but the whole team was bad. It wasn’t the real Roma.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Oct 22, 2014 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #16

    Ibiza,
    The way we have started the season it seems too many are having a good relaxing during training!!

    As for Mbiwa, he is young and learning. Both Colo and Willo have been caught the wrong side and/or out of position a few times this season. I’m not convinced MYM would settle in the Prem, particularly not in a struggling side, but he couldn’t have done any worse really. As you say he has potential, where as the other 3 are at an age where they should be peaking, or are currently regressing at a worrying pace. A young and strong centre half should have come in ideally to replace MYM when he left.

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  • Average_Contents

    Oct 22, 2014 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #17

    Interesting information from somebody not associated with the club. Hope it’s true and would constitute a major shift in youth policy.

    The only downside is we’d most likely loose them at some stage as soon as cash is offered and I know we do it with all players but it hurts more when there homegrown and from the region.

    Newcastle United have gone back to the future and started to re-focus their youth recruitment efforts on players within a two-hour radius of the city.

    United have been beefing up their links within the local junior game for months in an effort to discover the next Andy Carroll and now it appears that the policy is to try and primarily focus on the best local talent rather than bringing in under-21 players from overseas.

    The revelation is included in an exhaustive and excellent new book about football in the North East, ‘Up There’ – the result of a more than 12 months’ work by journalist and author Michael Walker.

    As part of a wider read about the state of junior football the author interviews the secretary of the PinPoint Recruitment junior leagues Ian Coates, who oversees 10,000 junior players and 726 teams as part of one of the largest youth competitions in the country.

    And the thoughts of the impressive Coates – nominated as one of the ‘unsung heroes’ of the game by Newcastle United’s Foundation earlier this year – are illuminating.

    The impression given to him by the people at the top of the club is that there is a renewed belief that the region, which is experiencing a boom in junior football, can provide talented Premier League footballers.

    “Newcastle United’s recruitment policy has changed as of this year,” Coates is quoted as saying.

    “They will not recruit any player under the age of 21 from overseas on a scholarship.

    “The majority of their players are going to come from within a two-hour radius of Newcastle. They’re going back to the old days.

    “This is coming from the top. They believe there are technically gifted players within the North East. Steve Nickson is head of their recruitment nationally up to 21, he is adamant about that, as if Lee Charnley, the new managing director.”

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  • Santon03

    Oct 22, 2014 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #18

    That’s a great news, AC.

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