Lee Bowyer – Newcastle Wont Get Relegated – Keep Alan Pardew


Lee Bowyer was signed by Sir Bobby Robson in the summer of 2003 as a free agent, and that was after his former club West Ham were relegated to the Championship.

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Lee Bowyer while at Newcastle

Lee stayed at the Tyneside club for three seasons before returning to West Ham, who at the time were managed by – you guessed it – Alan Pardew – and Lee played 98 games and scored 11 goals for us, and of course he played in the Champions League for Newcastle under the great Sir Bobby Robson.

Alan left West Ham in December of 2006, after he was fired by the new Icelandic owners, under Chairman Eggert Magnusson.

Lee was always outspoken,  and he is in the exclusive interview he has given to the Chronicle today, and he says Newcastle should not panic because we are third bottom of the league after eight games played.

Lee thinks the wrong thing to do would be to sack Alan Pardew, because he’s a good manager who is experienced in the Premier League.

This is what Lee said, and he’s talking about Alan Pardew (him):

“It seems to have happened for the last two years now.” “After eight games Newcastle don’t start too well.¨ “Then everybody is like ‘Get rid of him’. “The same thing has happened at West Ham last season.¨

“Sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for.¨ “If Newcastle get rid of him.¨ “He knows the Premier League inside out, he knows the players and if you get rid of him.”

“Who are you going to bring in?¨ “Who will he replace him with?¨ “Look at Fulham – they were an established club, then had three managers in a year, it was ridiculous.¨

“Now they are struggling in the Championship.” “Look at Wolves.¨ “Mick McCarthy, he’s an established Premier League manager and knew the place inside out, he was really experienced.¨

“They got rid and the next thing they’re in League One.”“They should never have got rid of him.” “Look, Newcastle won’t get relegated.”“Have they spent the money to be in the top seven?¨

“I don’t think they have.¨ “From what I hear Pardew has a tight budget.¨ “He hasn’t got the money that Graeme Souness or Sir Bobby had to spend.” “The wages aren’t as big from the times when I was up there.¨

“They have a wage structure that is quite low, even Leicester’s wage will be a lot higher, from what I hear, than Newcastle’s players.¨ “They are a team that’s just come up and they are chucking money around.¨

“Mike Ashley isn’t doing that but he’s obviously doing it as a steady thing.” “It means that Pardew hasn’t got the money that managers have had in the past like Sir Bobby or Graeme.”

We’ve mentioned a few times that changing a manager is not a magic cure, and we changed managers three times during our relegation season – and had Kevin Keegan, Joe Kinnear, Chris Hughton and Alan Shearer all manage the club – and we were still relegated.

And as Lee says, last season Fulham had three managers and they were relegated – and they have sacked their German manager Felix Magath this season, and they are currently 3rd bottom of the Championship.

Newcastle need to pick up some points in our next two tough league games against Tottenham and Liverpool, and if we can do that, the pressure on manager Alan Pardew may even ease a little.

The good thing is that in the last five games the players have all given 100%, and that’s always good to see, especially when we are struggling near the bottom of the league.

What do you think?

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43 comments so far

  • Sliema

    Oct 23, 2014 at 10:01 PM

    Comment #1

    Lee Bowyer was always a *unt

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  • welshgeordie9

    Oct 23, 2014 at 10:04 PM

    Comment #2

    it’s funny how after an argument is over, you start to think about more clever shit you could have said

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  • Sliema

    Oct 23, 2014 at 10:08 PM

    Comment #3

    Nobody in the media, including ex-players, ever actually gets the point.

    They ignore his shocking records, his pathetic form for the best part of 2 years, his terrible record with players, his off the field troubles. He’s doing the worst job possible, and people think he’s doing well?!

    Everyone’s saying we won’t get ‘relegated’. Sorry but why is it okay to be talking about relegation? Why are we okay with that? Oh keep Pardew and he’ll keep you up!

    Have we fallen so far behind so many clubs in the UK and Europe in terms of our squads ability? Are we now supposed to rejoice at the prospect of achieving an incredible 17th place this season?

    I can’t believe people don’t see what has gone wrong. It’s driving me insane!!!

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  • welshgeordie9

    Oct 23, 2014 at 10:08 PM

    Comment #4

    Three heavyweight men; an American, and an English man and a sumo wrestler were going to commit suicide by jumping of the top of a building. The American jumped off and shouted “God save America!” The English man jumped off and shouted “God Save The Queen!” The Sumo wrestler jumped off and shouted “God save the person who I land on!”

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  • scout

    Oct 23, 2014 at 10:09 PM

    Comment #5

    Hes right about the wages Demba and Remy would have stayed if we paid them the wages they clearly deserved on performances.
    Instead we get two bob strikers

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  • Sliema

    Oct 23, 2014 at 10:12 PM

    Comment #6

    And nobody on here will reply because they’re in one of two camps, in denial, or too bored by our club to actually protest.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Oct 23, 2014 at 10:30 PM

    Comment #7

    God it’s quiet on here tonight.

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  • Average_Contents

    Oct 23, 2014 at 10:43 PM

    Comment #8

    Sliema

    The dampening down of expectations has hit a new, awe inspiring level – we won’t get relegated. Whoopdy fcuking doo.

    It’s been happening for years under the guise of cannot compete and self sufficiency with one critical downside, we’ve been hampered and are not allowed by fatty. The cutting off of revenue streams, shitty deals with dodgy companies and merchandising revenue that’s no longer ours. The constant selling of our better players without replacement and then when they are eventually replaced it’s for cheaper models.

    People would be happy if we escape relegation, that’s how low we currently are and exactly what the fat slug wants. Contrary to what the king spouts about fatty wanting what’s best for the club. He only wants what’s best for him and that’s to use us as an advertising hoard whilst being ran at the minimum of cost.

    Fat bastard out. Weasley king out.

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  • jimmysmith

    Oct 23, 2014 at 10:43 PM

    Comment #9

    So brand recognition doesn’t equate to brand awareness. For example, SD aligns itself with the EPL more so than NUFC and Newcastle offer the cheapest tickets to ensure the stadium is full and the image protected, and the side merely has to hold up an end up by contributing to the success of the sponsored event, even by getting beat. A Newcastle win is far less important than the perceived occasion, to the majority of ‘consumers’, and the occasion has as much to do with sponsors as the club, probably more, as things stand.

    I always felt ultimately we’d do well under Ashley, because a successful Newcastle was surely in his best interests. Now I think we are simply a cog in a money spinning machine of TV rights and advertising, and the sides success is hardly here nor there.

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  • Average_Contents

    Oct 23, 2014 at 10:48 PM

    Comment #10

    And using Mick Mccarthy as an example of an established premier league manager. Established in what exactly? Relegation?

    More to the point he compared us to fcuking wolves or Fulham! Sorry but I’m sure even the most begrudging of football fans would agree we are slightly bigger than those two powerhouses.

    Leicester splashing the cash? Hardly. Do us a favour and fcukoff.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Oct 23, 2014 at 10:49 PM

    Comment #11

    Change the record average it’s getting boring.

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  • Dulcinera

    Oct 23, 2014 at 10:51 PM

    Comment #12

    Sliema

    I’m neither in denial nor too bored too protest, i’m annoyed at other of my fellow supporters.

    Look I’ll be the first to admit that Pardews record over the last year or so has been terrible, but what more can we expect? If a new manager comes in we will still be stuck with the same mostly usless set of players we have. I’m so sick of people thinking a new manager coming in will suddenly wave a magic spell on the team and we will be flying high. People talk about tactics? If Pardew tried to make this team play good football we would be even more shown up by other teams. I have never seen a group of players so inept at build up play and passing football as this one. That’s not Pardews fault completely…its the players mostly, they are the ones who play 90 mins at the end of the day.

    You think Pardew trains them to be so shocking, really? as much as you maay not like him, it’s silly to think that. I don’t know why our team is so shocking at playig football, we have some good players on sheet but when they pull on a toon shirt they are shocking.

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  • Dulcinera

    Oct 23, 2014 at 10:55 PM

    Comment #13

    Average_contents

    See, right there, you and fans like you are the problem

    Apart from having a bigger stadium (and a good run for a couple of years under Sir Bobby) why are we a bigger club than the likes of fulham and all. We have won fcuk all for a long, longtime, haven’t played champs league in a long time, havent been challenging for the prem title in a verrrry longtime. We are entitled to nothing. We were only relegated 5 years ago FFS.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Oct 23, 2014 at 10:58 PM

    Comment #14

    13Dulcinera

    Well said mate you tell him.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Oct 23, 2014 at 10:59 PM

    Comment #15

    Q: How do astronomers organize a party?
    A: They planet.

    They planet.

    Ha ha ha

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  • Average_Contents

    Oct 23, 2014 at 11:03 PM

    Comment #16

    Yes it’s just after 8 games that we want him gone lee. Your so observant.

    Nothing whatsoever to do with the shitefest we’ve endured over 27 games or the diabolical poor excuse for football we attempt to play. Nor is it anything to do with the constant hammerings we receive by scorelines of 3+ goals or our inability to do anything that resembles team play. It’s not even down to the fact we’ve lost 3 in a row to the mackems for the first time in near 9 decades. Touchline altercations? Who’s arsed?

    No, no nothing at all to do with that.

    It’s just the 8 games lee.

    Cheers for that.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Oct 23, 2014 at 11:08 PM

    Comment #17

    Why are you so grumpy all the time average.

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  • mindshaft

    Oct 23, 2014 at 11:08 PM

    Comment #18

    Does anyone really care what bowyer has to say

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  • welshgeordie9

    Oct 23, 2014 at 11:09 PM

    Comment #19

    Just be happy ffs life’s to short.

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  • optimistic prime

    Oct 23, 2014 at 11:14 PM

    Comment #20

    If you really want something you’ll find a way, if you don’t really want it you’ll find excuses!

    If pardew and Ashley wanted us to do well they’d find a way by trying different things, instead of doing the same and hoping for the best.

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  • Average_Contents

    Oct 23, 2014 at 11:15 PM

    Comment #21

    Should of just “done” a mindshaft. Straight to the point 😉

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  • Dulcinera

    Oct 23, 2014 at 11:19 PM

    Comment #22

    Like any fan of any team they support, I, too want what’s best for my team. I believe we should have a better manager than Pardew, that we should be competing for top honours etc…but unfortunately what the fans want isnt always a reflection of how their club really is as fans always believe their club should be among the best no matter what team it is they support.

    However, We are currently a mid table team at best, after being only relegated 5 years ago, I don’t think we should be a club who is happy to survuve relegation and i don’t think we will be anywere near relegated this season, bad start so far yes but we will come good and finish roughly about where we deserve to finish – mid table….am i happy to say im happy with that? No of course not, but im realistic enough to know that we deserve no better than that and it will be longtime till we are at the top. The top 5-6 teams have moved on so much since our demise that is just not possible to expect anymore. Does nobody realise this?

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  • headtheball

    Oct 23, 2014 at 11:20 PM

    Comment #23

    Chris Hughton was replaced as Newcastle manager during December 2010 as it was stated we needed a manager with more experience to take us “foreward” and at the time the team was in 12th place in the premier league.
    Alan Pardue has and when given the job had more experience as a manager.
    My question to all who are involved with NUFC is :
    1 Are we foreward yet?
    2 Are we further foreward than was predicted in the 5/7 year plan?
    3 If we are further foreward is it time for a more experienced manager to take us even further foreward?
    4 Why don’t we play football anymore?
    5 Do we still have Purple players and if so who are they?

    All answers to Mike Ashleys Marketing and Propaganda HQ St James’ Park Newcasle upon Tyne

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  • optimistic prime

    Oct 23, 2014 at 11:28 PM

    Comment #24

    Dulcinera

    All I expect is for the club to try and be the best it can be.

    We do that on the finances so why can’t we do that on the field to?

    I don’t want us to do a Leeds etc and we’re a million miles from that.

    We have everything needed to atleast be trying to get in Europe or win a cup.
    We are the 20th richest club in Europe even with the restrictions Ashley puts on advertising out sourcing other club income. So even though we are in the top 20 for earnings we can’t compete with Leicster Fulham palace etc, one word springs to mind.

    BOLLOCKS

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  • Average_Contents

    Oct 23, 2014 at 11:32 PM

    Comment #25

    Fans like me? Give it a rest. I could easily turn that around and say it’s fans like you who accept mediocrity and accept getting shafted by the fat slug and his chancer who are the problem.

    Where in that statement did I mention we are entitled to be playing champions league or fighting it out for the title? I merely said we are a bigger club than either wolves or Fulham and even the most begrudging of football fans would agree, obviously you begrudgingly disagree. Just shows what state we’re in when our own fans think like that. Your use of these points makes it sound like I’m expecting us to be fighting top 4-6. Hardly the case with fatty and his puppet here I know that and I woke up to this fact after kk walked so please don’t lecture me on the perils of “where we’re at” and “where we deserve to be”. No fcuker deserves that fat twat and his slivering snake.

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  • Average_Contents

    Oct 23, 2014 at 11:40 PM

    Comment #26

    No your wrong OP. We are no bigger than Fulham, wolves or Leicester. Our being in the top 20 clubs is a figment of yours and other deluded fans imaginations. Or so some would have us believe.

    I agree. BULLSHIT.

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  • Dulcinera

    Oct 23, 2014 at 11:42 PM

    Comment #27

    Average

    Yes fans like you…you are making arguments with yourself here and defending your own negative points.

    I do not accept mediocrity for my team and like you i only want what’s best, unlike you however i am more realistic and patient.

    You say you don’t expect top 4-6 but this contradicts you completely. If you don’t expect us to be top 4-6 then you too are expecting mediocrity simply because if we aren’t challenging for those positions then anything below that is mediocre and pointless.

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  • spitfire_

    Oct 23, 2014 at 11:43 PM

    Comment #28

    “Lee Bowyer – Newcastle Wont Get Relegated – Keep Alan Pardew”

    Pick one of those, Lee.

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  • Average_Contents

    Oct 23, 2014 at 11:48 PM

    Comment #29

    Anyway I’ve got work to do and it’s the last night shift till 2 weeks Monday…thank fcuk. Anyone like lee Evans?

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  • Dulcinera

    Oct 23, 2014 at 11:50 PM

    Comment #30

    Optimus Prime

    Being the 20th richest club in europe means absolutely nothing to me.

    If wigan can win a cup, i expect us to be able to win a cup too, and i agree a club liek ours deserves european football but yous all missing the point bigtime here. We can have all money in the world but we can’t compete because we can’t attract the best players in the world because we are a mid table team, you need the best players to get places, simple as and we are a long way off doing that.

    As far as not being able to compete with Leicster, fulham, palace, you are making me laugh. Just look at our squads over the past few years, the players weve bought, then take a look at the teams you just mentioned LOL what a joke

    If those teams want to throw big cash around on past it, terrible, over priced players let them do it, freddy shephard use to love doing that and look where it got us…RELEGATED

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  • Dulcinera

    Oct 23, 2014 at 11:58 PM

    Comment #31

    There’s going to come a day when ashley leaves this club and people will only then regret just how good for our club he was. I don’t care if yous want Pardew gone, i do too, he will go at sum stage, But Ashley has changed this club round drastically.

    I hope whoever replaces him is another Shepard so we can go back to the days of big signings, over priced players, no youth policy, major debt and no class whatsever to the club.

    Look at the players weve brought in since ashleys been here,compare them to shephard era….. look at how much they cost, how much weve sold them for.

    Ashleys trying to change everything that was rotten about this club, the youth system which use to be non existant, now we are steadily searching top young talent, we are banning newspapers who write dross about us. The club is being run in a classier way

    Be carefull what you wish for…

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  • Average_Contents

    Oct 24, 2014 at 12:01 AM

    Comment #32

    There you go again with the fans like me bollox oh mightly wide eyed one. As for arguing with myself, weren’t you the one who decided to reply? I must be imagining it.

    Expecting and wanting are two completely different things. I want us to compete but I don’t expect it under this regime so where’s the contradiction? You on the other hand just accept where we are and go as far to say we deserve it! You seem tow the party line and believe the bullshit of not being able to compete when, with a little bit of the 7 p’s we could if we weren’t held back by the slug.

    As I said nobody deserves fatty and the king. The’re a,stain on this club and always will be.

    Definitely work time.

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  • Offkey

    Oct 24, 2014 at 12:03 AM

    Comment #33

    Dulcerina ‘We can have all money in the world but we can’t compete because we can’t attract the best players in the world because we are a mid table team’

    Really, tell that to Man City……

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  • Average_Contents

    Oct 24, 2014 at 12:05 AM

    Comment #34

    I’ve now come to the conclusion that you are indeed a wum/troll as nobody in their right mind can say that fatty is good for this club. This will be my last correspondence with your wum/troll self so enjoy.

    Fatty good for this club lmfco.

    Wow. Just wow.

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  • optimistic prime

    Oct 24, 2014 at 12:06 AM

    Comment #35

    No one is asking for huge amounts to be thrown around.

    We have a abundance of cash floating around, how do I know that you may ask.

    Well we’re building a new training complex which will take 3years to complete and will cost £25million pounds!

    Bang we’ve paid that £25million in one shot!!’

    We could easily have spread it over three years bought a decent striker paid wages etc.

    Your falling into Ashley’s spin that the club can’t afford it which is total BS

    This season alone were 4million up on transfers now consider we were 8mil in profit last year and gained a extra 38mil that’s £46mil include the profit for transfers that’s £50mil and we spent £25mil on training groung. Where’s the rest?

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  • optimistic prime

    Oct 24, 2014 at 12:10 AM

    Comment #36

    Can’t compete and don’t want to compete are entirely different things and I’d say it’s def the latter.

    From day one we’ve always made more on outgoings than incomings, on transfers alone the club is in over £25mil in profit!

    Check out the incomings and outgoings under Ashley’s reign and you’ll find we can’t compete holds no water at all.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Oct 24, 2014 at 12:23 AM

    Comment #37

    Mr Tubbs had already owned NUFC for about 23months when we were relegated in May 2009. Suggesting it was Fat Freddy reveals total ignorance of the clubs history.
    Get yourself trolling elsewhere -the ladies wrestling forum would be a good starting point.
    Get in ya motor and drive “through” the motorway (tee hee) – what a tool.

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  • Dulcinera

    Oct 24, 2014 at 12:24 AM

    Comment #38

    Average

    Your a typical member of this blog, if you don’t tow the anti pardew/ashley line you are a troll. Yawn. You spew some crap and your arguments are pointless. You are the deluded one if you can’t see how far we have progressed under Ashley compared to Shepard

    Offkey

    Fair enough Ashleys a billionare, but he’s not a middle eastrern multi multi multi billionaire, i think you are stretching it a bit comparing to Man City

    Optimus

    I have no idea where the restofthe money is, i’m not falling into any spin, i know there is money, but not enough money to build a team worthy of competing for theh top honours. Yes maybe we could buy a striker for 50 million? but so what, the rest of the squad is still average.

    I don’t think Ashley is the BESST owner in the world, i simply think he has done LOT of good things for us, mixed with some bad decisions yes il amdit but on the whole, good things. Unless a multi multi gazillion pound arab comes and buys our club, we will be no better off.

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  • Dulcinera

    Oct 24, 2014 at 12:35 AM

    Comment #39

    Ah good old Mister Tuff, the top idiot on the blog. the epitomy of the latet generation of toon support – the negative arsewipe –

    I think you will find the squad that got us relegated was made up from an inherited group of players that were here before ashley. Owen, duff, martins, nzogbia, butt, half a team of dross. We were flirting relegation before ashley came along, never had enough time to steer away from it anyway

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  • catchy in norway

    Oct 24, 2014 at 1:04 AM

    Comment #40

    we always get told we can not compete with the big teams at the top,

    1st problem with that statement, i don’t know one NUFC fan asking or thinking we can compete with Manu city Che Ars, or even lpool spuds on a financial level, not one so i don’t know why P45 and his band of followers keep brining that one up.

    2nd problem with that statement,

    by saying it, it seems to imply that we can not compete on a physical level, and this is where i have a huge problem with Mr excuse P45, i think we should be a match for any team in the premiership on a physical level, as every player on that pitch is blessed with the same body, 2 feet , 2 arms , a head, the very least we should be doing is competing , but i don’t see it, i see us beat by a lot of teams before a ball is kicked,

    this comes from P45s attitude towards everything, he believes he is good enough and that he has nothing to prove, and it is a massive flaw in his personality, he thinks he is a king , reached the top,
    what drives winners on in all walks of life, they don’t accept losing anything, they can lose but that only spurs them on to work harder and try different approaches ,

    P45s approach is the same no matter who we play, Brighton in one cup one week Real Madrid in another cup the next week, we set up exactly the same, no variation unless forced.

    i hate reading about Pros or Ex pros coming out and defending one of there own, whether it be my club or any other club, i 100% don’t think they a qualified to do so, some people sit and listen to them and think because they have played the game “at the top level” it makes them an expert, but an expert on what?, everyone knows most footballers are think, they have got though live because they can kick a ball, yet in reality most ex pros that go into management fail, they could have played football at the highest level won everything there is to win in the game, all that experience and still fail, yet im supposed to listen because he was a pro.

    how many games do you think Lee Bowyer has watched of us? i bet a few games that have been on sky, do you think he is looking at the bigger picture for every club in the land and knows everything about everything in every club, no, its all an old pals act, looking after there own

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