Manager Alan Pardew was upbeat during his news conference today for the West Ham game on Saturday afternoon and as well as four players returning to training – Coloccini, Tiote, Steven Taylor and Riviere – there was also good news on the status of Rolando Aarons and Ryan Taylor.
Rolando Aarons – back next week to training
This is what Alan said to the press today about Rolando and Ryan:
“Rolando Aarons is not quite ready, but I think he’ll be around for next week.” It’s a big week in the Premier League – three Premier League games in seven days – so it’s an important spell to have all your players around.¨
“It is a boost because we’ve had a terrible run of injuries and kept the winning run going so it’s testament to the squad – the players have been phenomenal in this spell, and even on the training ground this week it’s really difficult to calm them down.¨
“They’re really on fire, they’re enjoying their football and you can see it, so we should be in a good place for Saturday.” “We think he’ll be back training in three to four weeks so it’s really good news for Ryan, really good news for us, and good news for our fans because they were all upset, as we were, with his withdrawal last week”
“But it wasn’t as bad as we’d feared, so that’s some positive news.¨ “Ryan had worked so hard to come back from the cruciates and the broken leg he’s had during his career, and you don’t want him to suffer another major injury.¨
¨But there’s no bad news there – that’s all good news.”
That’s good news on both players – and particularly good news on 30 year-old Ryan Taylor, who was the best player on the field for the first 30 minutes last Saturday, before he had to leave the pitch.
Ryan Taylor injured last Saturday – back in a matter of weeks
There was also news yesterday that Siem de Jong has returned to training, so soon we could have two set piece specialists – Ryan Taylor and Siem de Jong – available, and that’s a threat we haven’t had since Yohan Cabaye left the club last January.
Things are continuing to look up at Newcastle at the moment. 😀
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159 comments so far
LGFUAD21
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:01 PM
Comment #1Graeme,
Right have fully understood now.
If 1 qualifies for CL and other EL. EL team misses out but CL gets to compete.
If both qualify for either EL or CL, highest ranked gets to compete.
In otherwords, if Rangers qualify for CL we cant play in EL so if Rangers qualify for CL, we either have to secure CL or nothing.
I think more realistically we are threatened because if Rangers do qualify for CL we will miss out on EL (as it is far more likely we will be in an EL position than a CL one)
Basically we need to pray Rangers stay shite
Jail for Ashley
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:05 PM
Comment #2Mashers wants SD on the front of their shirts
Jail for Ashley
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:07 PM
Comment #3Lfguad,
We need to pray ashley does one
optimistic prime
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:09 PM
Comment #4Lgf
The reason I asked tv money is would Rangers then be able to be self sufficient as Ashley doesn’t like to put his cash in.
Ashley will definitely have a plan and he’ll be the main benefactor.
He could quite easily invest a little in NUFC over next to seasons possibly have us in Europe then sell us, then say to Rangers I stabilised NUFC did this and that now I want to do same at Rangers.
Not as easily as that but you get the picture.
JFA
The shirt thing maybe on the money
Graeme
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:09 PM
Comment #5LGFUAD21 – But where does MA/SD gain an advantage by having Rangers in Europe? He cant use Ibrox to advertise SD the same as he cant use SJP – all stadium advertising belogs to UEFA.
Unless he is going to have SD as the Shirt Sponsors, he gets no benefit, in which case, he is better off replacing Wonga with SD and use NUFC to advertise to a far larger audience.
70TWO
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:11 PM
Comment #6Can see AP putting out this side:
Cisse
Sammy – Sissoko – Gouffran
Colback – Tiote
Dumett – Collo – Willo – Janmaat
Krul
Largely the senior players walking straight back into the first team, if they loose what will that tell AP? and what will the reaction from fans be?
BandB
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:15 PM
Comment #7OP
From Wikipaedia,
“In 2008, an estimated 300,000 Rangers supporters travelled to Manchester for the UEFA Cup Final, at the time this was said to have been the largest movement of people within the United Kingdom since the end of World War II.”
Rangers also have 600 supporters’ clubs worldwide. A far larger expatriate fan-base than us.
Rangers and Newcastle are two different markets. SJP is a billboard for Sports Direct via world-wide TV audiences for the Premier League. PL prize money and TV rights are huge.
You have mentioned several times that he wouldn’t be able to expose SD advertising to a Champions League audience because of existing rules. This is not much of a stumbling block.
A resurgent Rangers competing in Europe would sell shed loads of merchandize world-wide, and all at huge margins over investment. All produced by Ashley. And who knows, SD may even become their shirt sponsor.
70TWO
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:17 PM
Comment #8Rangers are 9 points behind (still 24 games to play) Hearts with only one(?) promotion from the Scottish Championship. We have at least another season before there is any issue.
Does this rule also apply to Red Bull?
lesh
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:20 PM
Comment #9Repost as the Rangers topic’s moved on to this post:
I expect Rangers to enjoy a period of austerity as we did until the club’s finances are healthy and its running self-sufficiently.
If my assumption’s valid, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Ashley sanction some sensible investment in the playing side of Newcastle United.
Oh faint hopes….
Our Toon
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:20 PM
Comment #10I think quite a few are missing the big picture here with Rangers. For Rangers to survive and for mashers to fully maximise revenues he needs Rangers in Europe. They we’d to spend less to get into Champions League.
For us its different, we need the premier league to ensure mashers maximises revenues, we can survive without Europe financially and the TV deal here is ridiculously big.
Bottom line we will be sacrificed for Rangers gain.
Bambams
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:21 PM
Comment #11Fly out to Fuertaventura on Saturday and arrive in plenty of time to get to the Corner House Sports Bar Corralejo for the match
Just something about watching the match abroad….Maybe the A.I at the hotel helps !
Anyway I have a feeling 2-1 Toon. Sissy and Perez
BandB
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:22 PM
Comment #12If this is true, and it is just paper-talk at the moment, it opens a can of worms.
Maybe Ash thought all he had to do was steamroller the Scottish FA.
I wonder how Uefa, The Premier League, FA and Sottish FA would stand over a qualified team being debarred because of ownership issues? During any legal challenge they are bound to be asked how he can ensure this will not happen. And he can hardly say, “Because we’ll make sure Newcastle don’t qualify.”
lesh
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:24 PM
Comment #13Come to think of it, the ECL must be Rangers only realistic source of big money.
Prize money from the Scottish Prem’ll be nowhere near the English Prem, similarly for TV revenue. The SPL surely won’t attract as much overseas following as the EPL. Ed could provide a stateside view on that particular point.
Reyantoon
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:25 PM
Comment #1470TWO
Why do u put Goof in place of cab ?
Our Toon
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:26 PM
Comment #15Don’t forget he bought the naming rights for Ibrox and paid that massive figure of 1 quid. I always thought 1 team got promoted and the 2nd bottom and 2nd top had a playoff to see if another go down or up between prem and div 1.
Whatever way you look at this we will never be in Europe if Rangers go up and as long as mashers is here. Enjoy top 10 targets until MA leaves.
BandB
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:26 PM
Comment #16Sottish FA?
What an unfortunate slip. Sorry gentlemen.
Our Toon
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:27 PM
Comment #17Lesh
Spot on mate and exactly what I’ve put below your comment mate.
70TWO
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:31 PM
Comment #18Celtic are currently struggling to invest in their squad because of low revenues and perhaps the lack of Old Firm matches, but this would ultimately be a minor fraction of overall takings. Therefore a lot of investment would be needed prior to any potential qualification for Europe and although worldwide merchandise is has huge potential would it be enough to sustain a squad of Internationals? Unless MA is planning to again develope youth players and perhaps reproduce the loan/player transfer agreement that Chelsea/Vitesse-Arnhem.
G
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:32 PM
Comment #19Surely if Rangers qualify for Europe (Somehow?), and miraculously our fine form continues and puts us in one of the Europe competitions (I see this about as likely me becoming sexy – not at all), then Rangers can afford to pay the loan back to MA making this a non-issue? Don’t think the stadium rights have any bearing upon the Europe disqualification (I could be wrong like).
70TWO
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:34 PM
Comment #20Reyantoon @14
Not my personal selection, it is what I predict Pardew will choose based on his past operating model. Which has not entirely been successful prior to this recent good run!!!
Belfast
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:37 PM
Comment #21Rangers are a million miles of champions league , watch them this Sunday they’re terrible. They’ll be lucky to get promoted.
Hopefully Mikey has sailed of into the sunset by that time.
BandB
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:37 PM
Comment #2270Two,
They don’t need a huge squad of internationals to qualify for Europe (as in England). And they don’t have to try and win anything in Europe. The qualifying stages and group stages could have them on the telly for five months. As Lesh says, Europe appears to be the ONLY way they can make cash.
Mister Tuff
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:38 PM
Comment #23It will be a lot easier for Rangers to qualify for Europe than for us to qualify and presumably cheaper (less investment). I suspect we’ll be the ones to suffer.
God knows what Tubbs game plan is -really nobody knows but he normally will outwit those who think they know what he is up to.
I think a lot of Toon fans will not be too bothered until we are on the brink of something disasterous and then it will be too late.
70TWO
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:41 PM
Comment #24Lesh @9 is right, knowing that Rangers already over spend there will no doubt be cost cutting to balance accounts prior to any investment that would propel them into Europe. The balance of risk for MA is that he will come out with money what ever happens in the long run.
BandB
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:41 PM
Comment #25Belfast,
People have been laughing off the Rangers link for years now. And yet there he is, with a controlling interest that has attracted the notice of Uefa. Clearly it isn’t for them to roll around where they are now.
optimistic prime
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:42 PM
Comment #26BandB
I was just beginning to hope he’d sell us, by the looks of things people think we’ll be sacrificial lambs.
The Shirt deal would be the obvious side step don’t know if he’s had that Chance yet.
After the way Rangers reacted in his shops recently i think he needs a different approach to keep them happy, as successful as it could be it could also back fire if their fans don’t buy into it.
Sazzer
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:43 PM
Comment #27Ashley will probably just reduce “his involvement” in one of the clubs if this becomes an issue.
optimistic prime
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:45 PM
Comment #28Rangers fans reacted recently
jayphoto
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:46 PM
Comment #29Think Ashley with Rangers is hedging his bets! Theres been talk of Celtic and Rangers or even a Uk premier league for a long time. Also theres forever talk of a Euro super league and with rangers being one of the founders of the ECA im sure they’d be part of that!
If either of those 2 things happen the money would be HUGE! And lets be honest money talks! And Rangers with their history and fanbase would be right at the for point of it all! Ashley would be laughing all the way to the bank
jayphoto
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:48 PM
Comment #30Also whilst Nufc makes far more money than Rangers because of the tv deal, Rangers worldwide fanbase and possible champs league involvement might mean far more to Sports Direct in the grand scheme of things! Maybe Ashley is looking at the bigger picture of his empire? Nufc to him is a toy and a marketing tool. rangers would be the same! Sports direct is his passion and legacy
Sazzer
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:57 PM
Comment #31Colo will probably walk straight back into the team. The question then is will Willo get a nod because of threat of Carroll? If so then Dummet will be move into LB.
Also with Abeid and R.Taylor out. Tiote most likely are going to walk straight back into the team.
Not sure Pardew will change front three up from the start.
Krul
Janmaat Willo Colo Dummet
Tiote Colback
Sissoko
Cabella Perez Sammy
And S.Taylor and Rivere will replace Chucky and Streete on the bench.
70TWO
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:57 PM
Comment #32BandB
Europe probably will be a long term target in order to make Rangers potentially self sufficient and to enable MA/SD to see any return as you say through merchandising. He has currently invested £5M(?) to cover running costs until January(?), to cover them for the remainder of the season and next season based on £1.5M a month (again another approximation) would be £30M. So by the end 2016 season MA will have loaned £35M to Rangers and they could potentially be qualified for Europe.
If you were very rich and wanted to buy a football club which would you more tempted by, Rangers with £35M debt and playing in the CL? Or NUFC with £140M debt and £60M TV revenue?
jayphoto
Nov 27, 2014 at 3:58 PM
Comment #33If Uefa were smart theyd create a euro super league based on the NFL/NBA franchise model! 30-50 teams With small 8-10 team mini leagues followed by a play off system. You’d play every team in your area league home and away aswell 6 teams home and away from other area leagues drawn at random. The top 2 of each mini league would go into a knock out home n away playoff system.
The franchise system would let uefa control transfer fees,wage caps , financial fairplay without the trade and legal issues etc and the playoff system means thete would be interest to the very last game and no team could be far and away by say february!
Our current league system is very very dated! Really like the American system, much better for the fans.
BandB
Nov 27, 2014 at 4:04 PM
Comment #3470Two,
About eight months ago I wrote to Ibizatoon to tell him that an analyst had told me over a glass of wine that Rangers wasn’t such a puzzle for Ashley as it appeared. He suggested that money would “find its way” to Rangers and that Ashley might end up with a controlling interest that stopped short of outright ownership, with the golden egg being the club’s potential merchandizing rights.
70TWO
Nov 27, 2014 at 4:04 PM
Comment #35jayphoto @33
That model would be perfect for the current Europa league competition.
BandB
Nov 27, 2014 at 4:06 PM
Comment #36He also added that Rangers was such a large and distressed brand that it would be almost impossible for Ashley to resist.
jayphoto
Nov 27, 2014 at 4:07 PM
Comment #37To drop Dummett from centre half would possibly be the worst injustice in pardews reign! weve kept clean sheets against liverpool, man city and QPR with Dummett there (and seriously limited the other teams chances) and in that position dummett hasnt dropped below 8 out of 10!
Always though Pardew rewards performances and Dummett deserves that centrehalf spot!
Add to that west ham are poor on the flanks and haidara and sammy seem to have some odd understanding and could cause problems! Think janmaat will cause havoc on the right too!
If West Ham play carroll we can play a high line as dummett is quick and itl nullify carrolls aerial prowess! Should safra and valencia play they’ll murder colo and willo with pace and arent strong in the air anyhow
barkel
Nov 27, 2014 at 4:09 PM
Comment #38jayphoto – cant see that happening mate, the current European leagues are already too big & wealthy, maybe an expansion of the champions league but that’s all I could see happening.
On the Rangers issue, if we do happen to both qualify for European competition, Uefa have said the highest ranking team qualifies which I would imagine would be us because the premier league is higher ranked. Even Celtic with champs league for the last number of years are only a few places ahead of us and that’s with one season of Europa league in the last how many years!? It will take Rangers years to over take us in the rankings and if we (by some miracle) achieve regular European qualification I don’t think with Ashley involved they could ever over take us.
Then again I could be completely wrong
BandB
Nov 27, 2014 at 4:15 PM
Comment #39Barkel,
Fifty places difference between us and them. That mean that as well as one team’s ranking improving, the other would have to plummet.
But remember, the rankings only apply if both teams qualify for the SAME competition. Which is unlikely.
lesh
Nov 27, 2014 at 4:19 PM
Comment #40Our Toon.
You’re right, Ashley did get the Ibrox naming rights for a quid but he handed it back when he loaned Rangers the last million and Llambias was appointed to the board.
He’ll have some other tacky scheme up his sleeve no doubt!