Is Newcastle’s Injury Plight Really As Bad As It Looks?


If you believed everything that was said yesterday about Newcastle’s injury situation,  along with the suspension of Sissoko and Colback for this game, and the fact that maybe even Rob Elliot could miss the game if his wife gives birth today to their first child today, and you could be excused for thinking we should just phone into Turf Moor – and give Burnley the 3 points.

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Alan Pardew – playing up injuries too much?
Or are we really in serious trouble for tonight

That’s how bad the news from Alan Pardew was at yesterday’s news conference,  with Tim Krul out until January and the following players all not available for tonight due to either injury or suspension.

Coloccini, Krul, Taylor(R), Aarons, Santon, Siem de Jong, Gutierrez, Obertan, Sissoko and Colback with Williamson, Haidara and Janmaat and we suppose goalkeeper Elliot all doubtful.

The one bit of good news last night was that Mehdi Abeid could return, and that would be a bonus, with Mehdi coming into the side in central midfield and he’s been great for Newcastle this season.

We have known Alan Pardew make things sound worse than they really are before games – and that’s what he’s probably been doing a little bit if Abeid, Williamson, Haidara and Janmaat are all fit to play tonight.

Maybe Alan thinks he has Burnley where he wants them – they have no idea what our starting line-up may be tonight. 😀

The problem is neither do the fans, – and when the team is announced around 1:45 today – it could still be the weakest team that Newcastle have played all season – and that;’ not good against a club struggling against relegation.

And one thing that came to light is that Curtis Good has now been out for nine months since he injured himself playing for Australia in early March – so it would be good to get an update on the 21 year-old.

After all that has happened, a win tonight would be  a shock.

In the circumstances, it would also be  a great result.

Howay The Lads!!

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66 comments so far

  • nut meg

    Dec 2, 2014 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #1

    Repost
    charlie @4
    I seen a good part of the game the other week when Ings played & he did impress me.He was sharp,alert,good movement,strong & dangerous so on first impression I would have him especially for what he would cost. The mention of the estate agent & Danny Ings reminded me of a very same story about Johnny Giles I think it was of becoming our manager years & years ago …… I hope this time it’s true.

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  • expatmag

    Dec 2, 2014 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #2

    Charlie.

    Maybe humble pie indeed although I wouldnt be bragging about it until he is standing in front of SD signs holding up a black and white shirt

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  • expatmag

    Dec 2, 2014 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #3

    Well. We know that Colback and Sissoko will be back for Chelsea at least

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  • davetoon

    Dec 2, 2014 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #4

    No excuses. If we want to make even our owner’s meager expectations we have to be beating this lot home and away

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  • LeedsMag

    Dec 2, 2014 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #5

    Haven’t seen a full press conference but looking at a brief piece on sky this morning ,AP looks to be back to his arrogant best with a smirk and a smug comment about how Burnley would need to have a bit more about them than trying to get in behind us and put pressure on.
    I cringe every time he opens his mouth

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Dec 2, 2014 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #6

    expatmmag
    I, I won’t/don’t believe it – until pen is put to paper.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 2, 2014 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #7

    Even with all the injuries we can still call on a pretty decent attacking line up. For me, that is what we should be focussing on. We have Perez, Cisse, Sammi, Arma, Cabella and Rivi who could play as a front 2 or 3.

    Then in midfield we can call on Anita, Goofy, Cabella could drop in there, Abeid may make it. If they can still afford to not bring Bigi along then I think we are still more than a match for them.

    At the back is a worry, but if Janmaat, Haidara and Willo don’t make it, that leaves us with Saylor and Streete in the centre, Satka right back Dummet left back.

    It makes sense given where our strength lies in this potential line up to get at Burnley straight off, and attack them, rather than trying to use our more offensive minded players to protect our back 4 by holding back.

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  • expatmag

    Dec 2, 2014 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #8

    Charlie

    Part of the fun of supporting this great club of ours mate.

    Spending the entire window eagerly anticipating our next major signing only to be appalled on the last day of the window when our better players are sold off without any replacements……Carroll Cabaye Ba HBA and Mbiwa immediately spring to mind.

    Next on the list….. January 31st…..Sissoko and Tiote

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  • James RS

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #9

    Could be that bad…Goalkeeping position looks worrying with Tim out for 9 games was it? Elliot I don’t rate either his positioning is poor could have prevented the West Ham goal even.. Bad run coming up…Players Out Colback; Sissoko; Haidara; Williamson; Janmaat; Krul; R Taylor; S Taylor; Abeid; Coloccini; Aarons; Obertan; de Jong; Santon; Good; Gutierrez; Ben Arfa Marveaux etc Its looking grim with 6 games in december coming up. Is this the worst injury list ever.

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  • expatmag

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #10

    Lil

    Looking like another 3-4 defeat….lol

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #11

    Expat,
    I’d happily take that over a 1-0 defeat!

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  • expatmag

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #12

    James

    We could always recall Campbell to play CH……lol

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  • Rotonda heights

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #13

    Playing the yongsters is probably what kept Pardew in a job. Aarons, Abeid and Perez have all been a revelation so I’d love to see more like Roberts, Armstrong, Streete etc..

    Beardo gets a lot of stick but he must be doing something right

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  • expatmag

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #14

    Lil

    Not with our courageous manager mate

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #15

    Expat,
    I know it is unlikely, but his hand was forced into bringing people in with a different style when the likes of Goofy and Tiote were injured, so maybe he will be forced to attack from the off now.

    Just realised I left Tiote out of the list of those available. Add him to the midfield group and we have more than enough to win tonight, but we must attack them, rather than being overly cautious.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #16

    How did the human race prosper so, before modern nan starred having babies ?

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #17

    *Man started

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  • optimistic prime

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #18

    What happened during the night?

    I’ve woke up this morning and half the defence is out.

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  • catchy in norway

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #19

    Coloccini , would play
    Krul would play

    Taylor(R), he was a bench warmer before his injury nighmare, should play more football at reserve level before he get any where near the first team

    Aarons, I would play him if he was fit, but has been nothing but a bench/squad player, if goofy is fit he would not get a game, maybe a few mins as sub

    Santon, for me , he is a miss, I think the tactics pardew plays don’t help him and he is out of position to often because of them, gets no cover from first Jonas, then goofy, he should be a right winger IMO

    Siem de Jong, can you miss someone you have not really seen much of? I don’t think so, he has shown us nothing for us to miss, should be a huge asset when he is fit though

    Gutierrez, offered us nothing for 2 seasons before he left, was told he had no future with the club by pardew, so we should not be missing him,

    Obertan, for me offers us nothing at all, a total waste of a place on the pitch or bench.

    Sissoko. not injured, self inflicted
    Colback not injured self inflicted

    Williamson, another total waste of a place on the pitch or bench, 6ft4 and can not head a ball, struggles to pass it, has the turning circle of the titanic. only thing he does well is hoof it, should now be looking at the kids who have a future in the game, at least they will have some pace

    Haidara, good back up, but needs a lot of work, pretty much the same as Santon, get caught out of position because he is our winger and LB, goofy does nothing to help
    Janmaat, been a better player for us going forward than defending, like I said earlier , its our system that lets him down, trying to cover 2 positions and gets caught out a lot,

    Elliot for me he is a poor keeper, but with krul out he would start

    out of this lot
    colo
    krul
    janmaat
    colback
    sissoko
    should be missed , but lets face it , its only Burnley we are playing, if our squad players can not come in and do a job tonight, there is something very wrong with our squad

    But lets face it, we are going to set up regardless of who plays, very defensive, try and keep it tight for 70 mins , hope for a point but try and nick all 3 late on,

    its the P45 way

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  • 70TWO

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #20

    Lilongwe Geordie

    There is a lot of truth in what you say and this is the type of situation where a good manager will prove themselves.

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  • optimistic prime

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #21

    Burnley will have their tails up tonight.

    No matter if you think we have enough to beat them or not. All the injuries will give them a lift and they’ll beleive this is a opportunity for them to win. Expect the box to be bombarded with crosses and shots from everywhere.

    Tonight will be a battle royal

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  • Rotonda heights

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #22

    Lilo

    ”but we must attack them, rather than being overly cautious.”

    If I had a pound for every time I’ve felt that way with pardew!!!

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  • 70TWO

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #23

    Jail for Ashley

    Good luck with those tireless shifts at the sh#t face, as my father-in-law used to call it on his day of duty.

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  • 70TWO

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #24

    It will be like a game of British Bulldog tonight.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #25

    OP,
    They will, but even without our injured/suspended players we on paper/in theory have more than enough to match, and best them.

    Rotonda,
    I know, but with the amount of defensive bodies potentially out, I am hoping it ties his hands and forces him to go for it.

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  • 70TWO

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #26

    @5 – sounds like our players will have been tripping over the long grass blades if we lose.

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  • 70TWO

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #27

    Lilongwe Geordie – should of added, hopefully Pardew can show he is adequate.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #28

    70Two @20,
    Never mind then…..

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #29

    70Two,
    We shall see. Hopefully we will see what he can do. If we go out and attack, make a real go of it and still lose due to the defensive issues we have, then I wouldn’t think any less of him. If he tries to use our players just to protect and break, and we lose then he is going someway to undoing the recent good results.

    If we defend and then manage to nick a win, I will be happy with the win, but it will highlight his deficiencies more than improve his stock in my opinion.

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  • 1949BH PROUDTOBEAGEORDIE

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #30

    lilongwe at 25 agree totally that the best way is to attack them however can see gouffran and anita being in the team. burnley were slight favorites to win before the injury doubts of haidara janmat and willo and are clear favorites now.

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  • 70TWO

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #31

    In hindsight his decisions at WHam did not work, but the occasional slip is to be expected. IMO the game tonight, the league Cup and the derby will give us a true account of his managerial ability. Bring on Xmas, 9 points and I will be happy.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Dec 2, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #32

    1949Proud,
    I wouldn’t mind one of them being in, play them alongside Tiote, but only if Abeid doesn’t make it (although I’d prefer to see Abeid not risked if there is any doubt – same goes for all injured parties). Then have Cabella as the central attacking midfielder, with Cisse, Perez and Sammi up top.

    But you are right, we are more likely to see a conservative approach. Anita could do a job at either full back if desperate, which is also another option and possibly allow us to keep Dummet in centre half.

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  • jimmysmith

    Dec 2, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #33

    Tuff, Tuff, Turf Moor. They’ll be excited about the visit of Newcastle to their famous old ground. Up against one of the biggest names in English football, at night, with us weakened by injury and them in decent form. This I believe will be the first ever Premiership game between the sides, so it’s a rare and big occasion for them. Added to that its a game Newcastle really need to get something from, with the difficult December fixture list to come, and our precious confidence and momentum on the line.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Dec 2, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #34

    Lilo

    Some of our best play has been by accident rather than design with injuries forcing people like Aarons, Abeid and Perez to the fore.

    Unlike pardew, these kids play without fear and sometimes off the cuff without being straitjacketed to defend 70% of the time.

    If more injuries forces the likes of armstrong, roberts and streete to come good ahead of schedule all well and good.

    We go on about the injuries but at the last count there were still at least 34 players available, not countng the likes of Bigirimana and the guys out on loan.

    Are you doing these type of drills at your academy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAjCbnWo4WA

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  • 70TWO

    Dec 2, 2014 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #35

    IMO Alnwick should be given a chance tonight between the sticks, because once the possibility of Elliots wife giving birth has been raised it will be on his mind and could effect his limited sharpness. The younger goal keeper has nothing to lose and it all to gain, which is pretty much the same for all the team that are fielded tonight. Looking at the headlines Pardew is more or less saying the same, I just hope his giving it a go has more ideas than just hoofing the ball forward.

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  • optimistic prime

    Dec 2, 2014 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #36

    Lg

    Your right we probably should, the closer it gets the more the game looks like a potential banana skin.

    Attack attack attack, does Pardew know what that means ? 😉

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  • 70TWO

    Dec 2, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #37

    Rotonda heights – watching that is confusing!

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  • jimmysmith

    Dec 2, 2014 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #38

    Elliot seems a decent enough back up keeper for us. Certainly a capable shot stopper, each time I’ve seen him, and Alnwick at 21 and reportedly talented, should be able to come in and do a job if needed. I’d quite like to see him in action.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Dec 2, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #39

    70TWO

    Yes I’ve had to freeze frame and replay several times!!!

    Going to try it on my under 11’s. Should be interesting!!

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  • GeordieGerman

    Dec 2, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #40

    Just to lighten things up a bit. But Sunderland are going all out for the tourist trade in North East.

    http://newcastleuncovered.com/newcastle-voted-best-city-uk-response-sunderland/

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