Newcastle Midfielder Blots Copy Book – What Happens Now?


The Mail is reporting that Hull manager Steve Bruce wants to terminate Hatem Ben Arfa’s season long loan spell at Hull City, but it’s very debatable whether Newcastle will want him back.

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Ben Arfa – in action at Manchester United last Saturday

Ben Arfa was allowed to leave on loan the final day of the transfer window, but with youngsters like Sammy Ameobi, Rolando Aarons and Ayoze Perez coming through – and Remy Cabella now at the club, it’s fair to say the French International has not been missed this season.

Ben Arfa didn’t seem to turn up for the game at Manchester United last Saturday – and Hull’s Geordie manager is not happy with his attitude, and Bruce took him off in the first half after just 35 minutes.

And it seems at half time the two has some argument on the way to the dressing room, and Steve Bruce doesn’t stand any nonsense from any of his players.

As Alan Pardew found out last season – Ben Arfa is not particularly good for team spirit – and it seems that’s why the former Sunderland manager wants to get him out of Hull City  – but as we said it’s not clear Alan Pardew wants him back.

Ben Arfa was not included in the 18 man squad for each of the last two games, and his contract at Newcastle runs out in June and he will not be retained.

Ben Arfa has a history of not getting along with his managers – and he fell out with then Marseilles manager Didier Deschamps back in 2010, and that saw him arrive on Tyneside in that summer.

And after he arrived he seemed to buckle down at Newcastle and do quite well, but earlier this year he got into a couple of arguments after defeats with the Newcastle manager in the dressing room.

Alan Pardew made it clear to the Frenchman that he has no future at Newcastle,  and Hull offered him a good opportunity to show his value – since he becomes a free agent next summer.

But it seem he has not taken the opportunity,  and if he does arrive back at Newcastle it’s almost certain he will not be part of the Newcastle first team squad.

The last thing we want to happen this season is for the fantastic team spirit and togetherness of the Newcastle squad to be disrupted in any way.

This kind of thing is not doing Ben Arfa’s career any good at all.

Hatem Ben Arfa played 86 times for Newcastle with 14 goals and  18 assists.

He has played 9 times for Hull City and the question now is – what happens to Hatem Ben Arfa?

If he does return from Hull then Newcastle could try to get him out on loan again in January, for his own good – so he can keep playing football and show what he can do.

One other possibility is that Newcastle could even do what they did with Joey Barton,  and offer him up as a free agent (no transfer fee) in January – even though he still has six month of his contract to run.

What do you think?

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35 comments so far

  • toonbrother

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:01 PM

    Comment #1

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/313531/ratings
    sky sports ratings Newcastle’s top performers were cisse and ayoze, colback and sammy. Fans are so suggestible. How any one could have watched that come to the conclusion Colocinni was our best player boggles the mind
    If Michael owen hadn’t unilaterally decided Colo was the best player no one would be talking about his performance today which was just okay

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  • welshgeordie9

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:04 PM

    Comment #2

    Can anyone name two songs that end with the same tune, I’ve got sun arise by Rolf Harris and Christmas song walking in the winter wonderland.

    Sun arise, she bring in the morning
    Sun arise, bring in the morning
    Walking in the winter wonderland.

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  • PompeyJohn

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:04 PM

    Comment #3

    HBA – What a waste of talent . Too much of a luxury and he wouldn’t deserve a place in the Newcastle team that played today. Needs to look at the attitude of players like Perez who was absolutely everywhere and showing how to track back.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:04 PM

    Comment #4

    I wonder what was so noticably bad about his attitude that he was subbed after 35 minutes.

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  • John Tudor

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:07 PM

    Comment #5

    his shirt was on back to front

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  • Cool Hand Luke

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:08 PM

    Comment #6

    He ate one of Steve Bruce’s pies.

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  • Mickalonius

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:09 PM

    Comment #7

    Toonbrother, just okay ? he was up against in Costa arguably the best striker in the world and DrogBa is not bad either eh ? Wrenyou watching the same match ?

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:10 PM

    Comment #8

    JT,
    Ha ha 🙂

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  • Mickalonius

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:11 PM

    Comment #9

    Ben Arfa Lazy primadonna

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  • toonbrother

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:13 PM

    Comment #10

    How about Costa had a bad game?
    If i remember correct Drogba scored a free header the instant Taylor came off.
    Just goes to show who was doing the heavy lifting in defence for most of the game
    Like i said he did ok. Quite good for his standards but nothing extraordinary
    Anyway I hear he is injured for the Arsenal game
    Sadly so is Sissoko. I just hope Pardew doesnt play Abeid as an offensive midfielder like Burnley!

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  • Scottiedog

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:15 PM

    Comment #11

    Colo was awesome today, not just the football but also the way he controls the defence! Also colback is a must as our England holding midfielder instead of the light weight wilshire….

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:16 PM

    Comment #12

    Mickelanious,
    Lilongwe Geordie wrote some good posts on why HBA wasn’t the Messi that some people made out, I suggested that he wasn’t all that once and someone said I should be crucified 😮

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  • toonking

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:16 PM

    Comment #13

    the reason we are getting wins is not because of the occasional luxery finisher like this player, it’s because we have been playing as a team, have got players very passionate and everyone showing respect to each other.

    saylor, dummett colback and sammy all play their hearts out for this club as they love it.

    colo and sissoko all give the team it’s spirit and leadership.

    sissoko and perez give work effort for the full team both defensively and offensively.

    most importantly every single player works for one another whereas this idiot is a selfish indivual, basically another balletelli.

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  • Ian Toon

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:16 PM

    Comment #14

    Since his departure team spirit has increased and throughout the team there is a good work ethic. His return would risk damaging dressing room morale. We don’t want him causing trouble. We are well shot of him as he is not a team player. He’s not due yet another chance at yet again our expense.
    I still remember the West Ham game last season when Carver and Cabaye had to speak to him about his lack of interest in the pre match warm up. Good riddance.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:17 PM

    Comment #15

    toonbrother,
    Collo is not among my favorite players anymore but your obsession is abnormal.

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  • Our Toon

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:18 PM

    Comment #16

    That from colback today was much better, rather than chasing the ball today he was keeping the shape of the midfield and more importantly pressing with his teammates. Colo was super as well. Cabella was the only downside, I hope he makes it but it doesn’t look good!!

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  • Mister Tuff

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:19 PM

    Comment #17

    Shocked to hear that there is no pro Percy Brigade. always thought they were an organised group with membership cards and their own clubhouse.

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  • Ian Toon

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:19 PM

    Comment #18

    Scottie- there is a lot more to Jack’s game than in the defensive third. He’s a cover every blade of grass type who is a superb athlete and he certainly should be in the England squad. I saw him at West Ham and he can really mix it but is creative as well. He has a quick football brain.

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  • toonbrother

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:24 PM

    Comment #19

    @11 Scottiedog
    Colback is not a holding midfielder.
    He is a central midfielder.
    He cannot play the Tiote holding midfield role.
    Play him as a lone holding midfielder and he would struggle.
    I see him as midfield workhorse in the mould of Gennaro Gattusso. Someone who can put a shift in, break up opposition plays, make simple passes and occasional surging run.
    He cannot be the team’s metronome like Wilshere or Tiote. Lets not place unrealistic expectations on the young lad

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  • Mister Tuff

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:25 PM

    Comment #20

    Ian Toon – please no more West Ham tales tonight -you know it makes sense.

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  • jayphoto

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:26 PM

    Comment #21

    Cabella hasn’t started well but i think the signs are there that he will improve! Hes stopped going over easily and his work rate is excellent! Seems to have a top attitude!
    Just apparent hes not got to grips with the speed and physicality yet but that will come!
    Took Henry half a season! Possibly the worst player ive seen in his first 6 months! Took hazard a whole season! Took gareth Bale 2 seasons….

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  • Ian Toon

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:32 PM

    Comment #22

    toonbrother- Anita is a poor man’s Jack Colback.

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  • Shadow_Shearer

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:32 PM

    Comment #23

    Ben arfa falling out with a manager is becoming more common than cisse scoring against chelsea!!

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  • toonking

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:32 PM

    Comment #24

    ourtoon

    i would give cabbella a full season so that he gets the XP of this league, but having said that i too think he might not be in with a chance much longer as we should have arrons backs soon and in january we’ll see de jong and obatan making a return as well and i would say cabbella will the be pushed right down the pecking order.
    my choices as far as the 2 wide men and CAM players is concerned would be this

    1.sissoko CAM
    2.perez (LF forward in the 4-3-3)
    3. arrons (RF of the 4-3-3)
    4. obatan!
    5. de jong (probably will move up once he gets the game time)
    6. sammy
    7. cabbella
    8 gouffran

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:33 PM

    Comment #25

    Cabella needs to play in the middle not on the wing .

    Still think he will come good .

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  • Our Toon

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:33 PM

    Comment #26

    Jay photo

    The players you’ve mentioned have or had immense quality before they joined, Cabella isn’t fit to lace the boots of the 3 you mentioned!! Like Lamela he’s not cut out for the prem, it’s to big a step for him!!

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  • toonbrother

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:33 PM

    Comment #27

    Ask any of those rating Colo’s performance highly what exactly he did today to warrant such praise
    They will tell you he “kept Costa quiet” (or something vague like he “controls the defence”)
    No one can point to the headers he won, or interceptions he made.. Saylor on the other hand made at least 3 crucial interceptions and last ditch tackles i can remember off the top of my head
    As for Costa what i saw today was off-colour player starved of decent service by the Chelsea midfield
    If anyone deserves any credit for keeping Costa quiet it was Tiote and Colback for suffocating the Chelsea midfield; Sammy Ameobi for effectively playing as a wingback (thereby allowing Dummet to play as a third Central Defender); and Oscar for being completely devoid of creative vision or ideas
    Colocinni just did ok. 5/10

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  • Our Toon

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:35 PM

    Comment #28

    Toon King

    I hope you are right mate but I have little faith in him, plenty of step overs when no one’s around and then tackled or shrugged off when players are around!!

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:35 PM

    Comment #29

    It’s a funny old game where HBA will be returned here because of his attitude, he will have to be paid around 30K a week until June while he trains with the youth team, he’ll then leave and somebody will more than likely offer him 10K a week to cause trouble there, you’d get a two week trip then be unemployed in my game with his shenanigans.

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  • Ian Toon

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:35 PM

    Comment #30

    Jay- cabella has good technique but is so weedy and lacks drive. He needs to bulk up whilst working on his acceleration from a starting position. He gets caught by defenders through overdoing things. It’s still early days yet so I retain hope for him at tuning to life in the P?.

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  • Our Toon

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:36 PM

    Comment #31

    Toon brother

    Colo made 2 massive blocks in his penalty area, last ditch blocks that could or would have resulted in goals, add to that he organised the defence well, ensured they all held positions and was a calming figure….he also out battled costa!! Now you tell me what he didn’t do!!

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  • Ian Toon

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:42 PM

    Comment #32

    Elliot 7. Alnwick 6
    Janmaat 8
    Coloccini 8
    Taylor 7
    Dummett 7
    Sissoko 7
    Tiote 7
    Colback 9
    Ameobi 7 ( Willo 5)
    Perez 7
    Cabella 6 ( Cisse 7)

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  • toonbrother

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:44 PM

    Comment #33

    Our Toon
    “He outbattled costa” – Another vague comment which doesnt mean anything

    I recall Saylor running across the box to make a last ditch block when Costa snuck behind colocinni. I recall several clearing headers Saylor made to ward off the aerial balls
    I recall Dummett playing like a god for 90 minuters

    The only thing I recall colo doing was tackling Ivanovic on the touch line.

    Face it Costa was quiet today because we parked the bus and packed smothered their midfield. Colback and Tiote deserve far more credit for his anonymity today than Colocinni

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  • kilbane

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:54 PM

    Comment #34

    I love HBA. We can use him as a backup No10 if Sissoko is out suspended or injured. Pardew, please give him a chance as u did for Dummy, Ayo, Sammy, and Gabby.

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  • iow toon

    Dec 7, 2014 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #35

    @kilbane, hba has had more than enough chances ,he doesn’t deserve anymore he has proved that where ever he has played. i used to be a big fan of his but he has let himself down time and time again . If it aint broke dont fix it, and he would break everything our lads have done over the last 6 months

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