It Didn’t Work Out – He Wants To Do Things His Way


The Mail is reporting that Hatem Ben Arfa will be sent back to Newcastle in January and his loan deal to Hull City will be terminated after it looks like Hull’;s Geordie manager Steve Bruce has given up on the Frenchman.

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Ben Arfa in action again st Southampton

There was news over the weekend in L’Equipe in Paris that Ben Arfa was in France and looking for a new club and Steve Bruce said he didn’t know where his players was.

But today Bruce has almost put an end to something which looked so promising for Hull on deadline da, when they signed the French International for a loan deal.

The Hull boss Steve Bruce – like Alan {Pardew and Marseilles manager Didier Deschamps before him, has grown frustrated with the player:

“Sometimes transfers work out and sometimes they don’t.” “It’s fair to say with Ben Arfa that I can’t see there being a future. It’s a team and you’ve got to reform and come into the team.”

“Unfortunately he wants to do things his way, which is fair enough, so unless he changes.” “I’ll treat him like any other player.”

“There’s been no fall-out, he’s been omitted from the squad because when you’re up against it you need to show a bit of resilience. Unfortunately Hatem sees it differently.”

“It’s a shame because we were excited to get him on deadline day,  but in three or four months it hasn’t happened.”

Ben Arfa’s contract at Newcastle runs out in June and Newcastle could do one of three things when and if  he returns to the club in January.

  1. Terminate his contract so he becomes a free agent in January,  and he can then sign  for any club.
  2. Look for another loan deal for him through the end of the season, when he will leave Newcastle.
  3. Try to get a nominal fee for him in January, and transfer him to another club.

Newcastle will try to get his wages of about £45K/week off our wage bill for the rest of the season.

This is not a good development for Hatem Ben Arfa, because it further legitimizes what Alan Pardew has been saying about him – that he doesn’t follow directions given to him when he plays.

It’s a waste of a great talent – that’s for sure – and it’s just a pity the 27 year-old doesn’t see where he’s going wrong.

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64 comments so far

  • Ibizatoon

    Dec 15, 2014 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #1

    Good timing Ed 🙂

    Oh Benny, whatever your viewpoint, at some stage you have to take the view that not all of his managers can be wrong and accept that his attitude is clearly not right.

    Maybe he has a brighter future in management, although he’s got some work to do, as he can’t seem to be part of a team, let alone lead one.

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  • firebug666

    Dec 15, 2014 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #2

    Benny is an exciting player to watch, no doubt about that, but he cannot do it all by himself. Asking players to give him the ball so he can run at the defence is all well and good if he intends to pass it on, or stick in a cross.

    I have to say when I seen him playing for Hull he looked a poor shadow of what he was, or what he could be.

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  • Graeme

    Dec 15, 2014 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #3

    “This is not a good development for Hatem Ben Arfa, because it further legitimizes what Alan Pardew has been saying about him – that he doesn’t follow directions given to him when he plays.”

    Fair comment – but, as P45DUE stated earlier – “We got it wrong, we didn’t prepare as well as we should”

    So, if the preparation is wrong and the instructions are wrong, wtf does Pardue spend the time doing? He has days in advance to get these things right, he has teams of people doing the prelim work for him – yet he stands up after a mauling by a weakened Arsenal side and says, “We got it wrong” an excuse we hear more and more!!

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 15, 2014 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #4

    I wonder how many articles will be about the mercurial Frenchman returning if Pardew gets sacked, or as an emegency loan, there have only been 345 with Cabaye mentioned, 184 with Ba and a whopping 678 about Andy Carroll.

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  • Graeme

    Dec 15, 2014 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #5

    Jail – re the emergency loan thing – can Ben Arfa play in goal??

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  • beermonkey

    Dec 15, 2014 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #6

    jail

    are those totals for the year

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  • cyprus

    Dec 15, 2014 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #7

    For January we need:

    A player who can break down defenses when we run out of ideas
    A player who can take on opponents and do damage all by himself.
    A player who will be cheap to get hold of.
    A player who can score goals, even assist.
    A player who can act as wondersub, terrorising defenses when he comes on in the last 30′. So he doesn’t need to be superfit either.

    If he can speak french that would help as we have a lot of them on the field.

    Now, who could that be…

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  • jimmysmith

    Dec 15, 2014 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #8

    Mmm, a player who’s a knucklehead.

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  • cyprus

    Dec 15, 2014 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #9

    Don’t look for your role models in football players, you will only be disappointed.
    I could name some excellent players who were total knuckleheads…

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 15, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #10

    Beermonkey,
    No, just this month !

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  • sing in the corner

    Dec 15, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #11

    Photo..Timber? What timber? .that Southampton guy makes Hatem look quite slim,
    I can’t get a ticket for the game this Sunday…Can I go on record to say that if Donkey Quinn is co commentating at SJP again this year I am sending my SKY SPORTS subscription back in ripped up. That’ll show em. But howay, who thinks this scheduling up? Why don’t they go for their usual balance and get Phillips in the studio? GRRRR!

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 15, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #12

    Cyprus,
    It’s fairly obvious the guy is a pr!ck, all those different managers and players he’s fallen out with can’t all be wrong.

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  • optimistic prime

    Dec 15, 2014 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #13

    If Hull can cancel HBA loan and send him back why can’t we cancel Fereyas send him back or cancel Darlows and get him back?

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  • beermonkey

    Dec 15, 2014 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #14

    jail

    for all of pardews faults I thought when benny came back from that leg break he handled him spot on he held him back for ages and then unleashed him in the second half of the season
    benny could see the rewards as well he got called up to the French squad as well and he was playing well

    ever since then its been more or less down hill for benny

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  • Wayayman

    Dec 15, 2014 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #15

    I was gutted that Hatem was allowed to go to Hull on the last day of the window. Not sure his attitude down there isn’t linked to his treatment of us and the fact that he ended up at a club fighting relegation with an old school English manager who loves a grafter.
    He basically thought he was getting a fresh start and realised very quickly that Bruce is just a fatter, uglier version of Pardew.
    Not excusing his actions, but players like this are special and need treating accordingly.
    We have to bear in mind that players of this generation grew up with everyone around them treating them like gods from a very early age purely because of their football talent. At 10 or 11 the last thing you need is people fawning over you and letting you get away with everything because of what you can do with a ball. If no one is telling him to grow up, he’ll always act like a spoiled brat.

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  • Wayayman

    Dec 15, 2014 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #16

    •linked to his treatment BY us (pardew), not OF us.

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  • mindshaft

    Dec 15, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #17

    Almost pointless discussing HBA – he’s gone, disliked by players and managers alike

    Can we beat Spurs: Maybe , depends on how important it is to Pochettino and who he selects to play ( I imagine quite important given they have no chance of qualifying for champs league )

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  • kww

    Dec 15, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #18

    wayaman r u not listening to what pardew has been saying for years, and now steve bruce is saying the same thing.
    they are politely asking HBA to grow up and be more professional BUT he is still acting like a spoilt brat

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  • expatmag

    Dec 15, 2014 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #19

    JFA/TUFF

    been advised our resident war monger is being monitored

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  • Wayayman

    Dec 15, 2014 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #20

    KWW, I meant that someone needs to do that when they are younger!

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  • Wayayman

    Dec 15, 2014 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #21

    Anyways, I was pleased that Cudicini said what I thought as soon as Cazorla scored that penalty on Saturday. Unnecessary to do that to a young keeper making his full debut, really out of order to be honest.

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  • optimistic prime

    Dec 15, 2014 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #22

    Is the spurs game on tv?

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  • Reyantoon

    Dec 15, 2014 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #23

    I’d rather like us to win at spurs than sundnd to be honest.Not easy but we should go for strong eleven without thinking the derby.I won’t be disappointed if we lose too bcoz we are playing with one of good team in England,esp away,But may be this is the first time we made it this far after long time and may be it’s great opportunity to win something this time.We sh’d go all the way with PL starting 11’s..

    And…
    Anyone noticed when the lads came back from a break ( half time),they have been given unusual running like training on the pitch.Not sure but it might make them vulnerable to injuries.Not many clubs doing that as far as I noticed in my entire Fb follow ups.But
    The new fitness coach acting weird lately ?

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  • optimistic prime

    Dec 15, 2014 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #24

    Reyna I’d rather get beat 6–0 off spurs than lose to the mackems again.

    Even if we beat spurs then lost to the mackems there’d be hell to pay, Pardew can’t afford to lose another one.

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  • mag92

    Dec 15, 2014 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #25

    HBA, hasn’t been the same player since he suffered those leg breaks; once he lost the will-o’-the-wisp, aspect of his game, his days as a Premier league force, were numbered.

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  • mag92

    Dec 15, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #26

    Strange logic: losing 3, points, or progression into the semi finals of a cup competition.

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  • JamesToon

    Dec 15, 2014 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #27

    Imagine if Pardew replaced Ally McCoist at Rangers lol

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  • mag92

    Dec 15, 2014 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #28

    Sunderland, have proved they don’t win, but draw matches.

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  • beermonkey

    Dec 15, 2014 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #29

    jamestoon

    dekka and pards are good mates aint they ??

    so never say never

    expat hows the siege any breaks in that yet

    rayantoon

    they spoke to taylor about that and they have been doing it since this winning run started so lets hope they stick with it

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  • Reyantoon

    Dec 15, 2014 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #30

    Op – Sundnd game is easy,we are playing at home.They are poor so far.U never predict what will happen in Fb but we play that game with our best eleven, that will make me more optimistic.We won’t lose this time but if something wrong happens in the derby,we should not be bothered if we win at spurs..

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  • mag92

    Dec 15, 2014 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #31

    The Spurs, game is definitely a must win; a run in a cup competition is good for the club, and the area.

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  • hibbit

    Dec 15, 2014 at 12:28 PM

    Comment #32

    easy said if you dont live in tyne and wear but it not just the 90 minutes for us its every were you go every day for weeks and now its getting in to years

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  • IrishGeordie9

    Dec 15, 2014 at 12:32 PM

    Comment #33

    Its a real shame what has happened to Benny. So much talent and potential wasted on a bad attitude. Wonder where he would be right now if he wasnt so selfish.

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  • mag92

    Dec 15, 2014 at 12:32 PM

    Comment #34

    What about the Geordies, living and working in Haringey?

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  • Reyantoon

    Dec 15, 2014 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #35

    beer – then what did taylor said about that?
    are u telling me they are comfortable with it?

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  • optimistic prime

    Dec 15, 2014 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #36

    Reyna

    We’ve lost the last 3, I don’t see it as being easy. The crowd will be anxious we haven’t turned up in previous Derbys under Pardew and for me its the one we have to win.

    It’s only 3points but losing 4 in a row would be unacceptable and unbearable especially if it’s another half arsed performance. Yet those 3pts could keep us up or get us into Europe at end of season so it could be argued their more important than a semi we may lose.

    I’m not sure how many fans would be comforted by a semi final if we lost 3-0 to the mackems, I wouldn’t. I don’t want to imagine losing 3 home games in a row to the mackems.

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  • expatmag

    Dec 15, 2014 at 12:36 PM

    Comment #37

    Beer

    Not yet. Still going. Been over 13 hours now but about 7 hours ago, 5 of the hostages managed to escape. Police are keeping their cards close to their chests.

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  • optimistic prime

    Dec 15, 2014 at 12:37 PM

    Comment #38

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/newcastle-united-poll-would-you-8290139

    Chronicles reading the blog 😉

    Currently 67% 33% in favour of winning Derby

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  • mag92

    Dec 15, 2014 at 12:39 PM

    Comment #39

    The winner of the league cup, qualifies for the europa games.

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  • Reyantoon

    Dec 15, 2014 at 12:45 PM

    Comment #40

    OP – I’m sure you will be the first person to jump over the Lion…..lol !

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