Injuries And Lack Of Cover Could Hurt Magpies Season


Newcastle went down to their second defeat in a row at Tottenham tonight,  and we weren’t really in the game after a calamitous error by young Jak Alnwick gifted Spurs their first goal after 17 minutes

jak alnwick shattered at end of the game

A very sad-looking Jak Alnwick at the end of the game

Jak was also responsible for the fourth goal as he spilled a shot from Eriksen that allowed Soldado to score, but we don’t blame Jal Alnwick.

It’s simply poor planning in today’s football not to have three experienced goalkeepers in the squad, when you are a top club in the Premier League.

You have no idea what will happen when a goalie like Jak, who has never played a competitive for the club,  is asked to do the job in some big games.

As we’ve said before it’s asking an awful lot of the 21 year-old.

It looks like it’s maybe asking too much of the 21 year-old, who looked shattered at the end of the game and almost in tears.

And you can bet that teams will now try to test young Alnwick at every opportunity, after what happened tonight.

Here are the matches we have through January, and it could be that long before Tim Krul or Rob Elliot can return, because according to Alan Pardew mid-January is the very earliest they are expected to return.

December			
Sun 21	13:30	H   Sunderland			
Fri 26	15:00	A   Man Utd				
Sun 28	16:15	H   Everton		
January
Thu 01	15:00	H   Burnley	
Sat 03  15:00   A   Leicester - FA Cup			
Sat 10	15:00	A   Chelsea				
Sat 17	17:30	H   Southampton				
Sat 31	12:45	A   Hull City	

And why have we had all these injuries this season – when we have been at the top of the Premier Injury League almost every week.

The manager had said a few weeks ago he would have to tone down the training, because of the injuries we were picking up on the training field.

Both Papiss Cisse and Cheick Tiote missed the game tonight, and that’s in addition to nine players that are out injured until January,  and both Cisse and Tiote could be doubtful for the game at home to Sunderland on Sunday.

We were so short of players tonight,  that if you take Vurnon Anita out of the subs bench – the remaining six players had an average age of only 18.2 years and four had never played for Newcastle in a  competitive game.

Not exactly a strong bench for such an important game.

Newcastle could pay a big price for their lack of  planning and heavy injury toll before January is out.

And Cisse, Tiote and Abeid will be away in early January for the African Cup of Nations –  it’s good we didn’t even mention that. 😀

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76 comments so far

  • wolfshead@toon

    Dec 17, 2014 at 10:51 PM

    Comment #1

    its probably for the best getting knocked out now anyway rather than being embarassed by chelsea at wembley with the world watching

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  • catchy in norway

    Dec 17, 2014 at 10:53 PM

    Comment #2

    shut up wolf

    on Monday will u say that you didn’t want to win against Sunderland too ?

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  • toonking

    Dec 17, 2014 at 10:54 PM

    Comment #3

    TS

    i myself will probably be giving him 3 games as my guess is he might have been thinking too much about that derby but if i see saylor sat on that bench whilst willo is starting i’ll be going mental and hope willo gets injured.

    all in all i too think we do need to get 2 new CBs, a RW and a striker.

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  • mag92

    Dec 17, 2014 at 10:54 PM

    Comment #4

    The Mackems, must be bricking it, dozy Alnwick, Williamson, and Gouffran, in the same team!

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  • IrishGeordie9

    Dec 17, 2014 at 10:56 PM

    Comment #5

    Wolf

    You could say that about any cup. So effectively your saying… Lets not compete in cups to save the embarressment. Your an embarressment if you dont want your team to do well in the cups. Never thought I would see a fan with less ambition then mike ashley himself.

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  • mag92

    Dec 17, 2014 at 10:56 PM

    Comment #6

    Sack Pardew.com, will be back on Monday, morning!

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  • toonicle

    Dec 17, 2014 at 10:57 PM

    Comment #7

    Best we can hope for is that Cisse sneezes on Gouffran and Willo before Sunday! Give them that cold bug and watch us win it.

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  • manxpie

    Dec 17, 2014 at 10:57 PM

    Comment #8

    manxpie // Dec 17, 2014 at 10:54 PM

    i agree sage but the fact is desperation more than mismanagement right now especially with players out of position

    dummets a lb and always has been he gets put at cb plays great there and suddenly no argument about him getting played out of position

    anita is a cm and suddenly he should’ve been a rb tonight but isn’t that a player out of position?

    its the silly arguments to hammer the manager that winds me up massively

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 17, 2014 at 10:58 PM

    Comment #9

    That run we went on was built on sand anyway, 33%, 37% possession etc, how could that have possibly sustained a lasting success, where for him now, now that his ‘winning formula’ has been sussed.

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  • manxpie

    Dec 17, 2014 at 10:59 PM

    Comment #10

    irish i let the rest do that but i point out the more real reasons

    so do you think pardew was totally at fault tonight? if so why?

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  • mag92

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:00 PM

    Comment #11

    The coffin will be making an appearance shortly, at the stadium.

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  • IrishGeordie9

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:00 PM

    Comment #12

    Manxpie

    Mate, anita covered at RB for Ajax. Dummett has absolutely no experience there. The logical thing to do was to play anita there. Its the excuses that people like you come up with to defend a manager who shouldnt be being defended simple.

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:00 PM

    Comment #13

    wtf everyone having a go at me when im trying to look on the bright side lol

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  • firebug666

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:00 PM

    Comment #14

    Repost

    manxpie

    I know we did not have much available for tonight’s game, and what we did have is poor, but this is not just about one game here, this has been the same story since the inept one took over. In the past managers have managed to get a team out even with injuries taken into account and give us a promising performance, under the inept one we lack all the basics required in a football match, passing, winning the ball, tackling, team cohesion, when we come second in every aspect of the game and the managers has no clue how to change it that then is a recipe for disaster.

    The inept one is the man in charge or our team, and the buck stops with him. Alnwick was poor, but the defence that should have been protecting him were a lot worse, the was no link from midfield to the forwards for much of the game our passing was atrocious and their was absolutely no team cohesion.

    We were not beat by the better team tonight, we were beaten by our own incompetence and the incompetence of our manager.

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  • mag92

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:01 PM

    Comment #15

    Pardew, proved all of his detractors correct tonight.

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:02 PM

    Comment #16

    you love the coffin carrying dont you mag haha

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  • manxpie

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:02 PM

    Comment #17

    last week against arsenal all the pundits were saying how difficult it was for them with the changes they had to make in defence for a couple of games no mention of our problems which has been every fackin game!

    we must be up there with the most changed backline of all time!

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  • Shaker Shakrah

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:02 PM

    Comment #18

    Does anyone still believe that the PATHETIC pardew
    can win against Sunderland ??

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  • toonking

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:02 PM

    Comment #19

    Transfer Sage // Dec 17, 2014 at 10:50 PM

    Manx

    Pardew has 2 things hanging over his head though he cannot shake off, so whenever things go wrong he will get slated.

    1. he plays dull football, people like attacking football and can accept dull stuff if it gets wins, but in general people want to see good football

    2. he is seen as an ally of Ashley and he does seem to try and spin us all his crap

    I have been willing to give him more time recently as he has tried to improve things with youngsters but what has genuinely annoyed me is seeing young Dummet do so well at CB to be instantly replaced by the disaster that is mike williamson as soon as he is fit again.

    He needs to stick with the young lads who did a god job for him. (fair play on he likes of aarons, abeid, etc who have been injured).

    He also needs to give Armstrong much more time on the pitch, in his 2/3 cameos he has done more than Riviere by some distance.

    manxpie // Dec 17, 2014 at 10:54 PM

    i agree sage but the fact is desperation more than mismanagement right now especially with players out of position

    dummets a lb and always has been he gets put at cb plays great there and suddenly no argument about him getting played out of position

    anita is a cm and suddenly he should’ve been a rb tonight but isn’t that a player out of position?

    its the silly arguments to hammer the manager that winds me up massively

    these two posts combined are the best way i would descibe pardew and his problems at the minute

    TS is right in the sense that he doesn’t stick with his plan of playing the players and youngster in form often enough
    ie armstrong is much better that rivere at the minute
    ie if by anychance sammy wasn’t injured he certainly should be starting ahead of gouffran

    dummet is the better CB of him and willo.

    but then i also agree with maxpie

    ie had roberts and sammy being played ahead of gouffran and cabbella they would have accepted gouffran getting benched but would not want cabbella benched
    obatan saylor and abeid were all players we really needed to see forced in as fans would never have wanted these starting a game at all

    cisse out wide, cabbella out wide, perez out wide all the ones which are unfortunely made to be out wide whilst arrons and obatan are out but fans will not be happy with this at all so why should he play LB at CB and a CM at FB?

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  • jimmysmith

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:03 PM

    Comment #20

    I don’t think Dummett is an EPL standard fullback, certainly not a good one, from what I’ve seen, although possibly an EPL standard CB, although again, hasn’t done enough yet, or near it, in that position. Taylor when fit and focused is an EPL standard CB, Collo certainly is, and Willo a capable and reliable squad player, no more.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:03 PM

    Comment #21

    Catchy

    Good evening sir.

    Well we discussed a couple weeks ago about whether prdew would stick with the kids when the senior players were fit and he hasn’t. We’ve seen Dummet move away from the central role where he did well (which improved colo too as he could move to the right side as a right footed CB) and Willo just walk right back into the team.

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  • mag92

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:04 PM

    Comment #22

    Dummett, played alright the dummies in the goal and at centre back caused all of the problems!

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  • jimiley

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:04 PM

    Comment #23

    The Scum game is much more important than some crap Cup nobody cares about. If we are so desperate for silverware, Percy should enter us for the Northern Intermediate Muppet Cup. But would we win it? Keep the faith in Percy and Fat Mike to deliver oblivion.

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  • IrishGeordie9

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:04 PM

    Comment #24

    Manx

    Pardew chose that line-up, a line-up which showed Pardew revert to type. A line-up which performed dreadfully. He chose the team which failed badly, therefore, he gets blame. Its not all his fault. But he has to take some of the blame. Why defend him when he should ?

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  • jimiley

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:05 PM

    Comment #25

    The only certainties in life are death and an empty |Toon silverware cabinet.

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  • mag92

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:06 PM

    Comment #26

    Sissoko, is too good for that team!

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:08 PM

    Comment #27

    Manx

    A huge issue with Pardew is not being able to deal with difficult situations. Obviously, as you point out, if should go without saying that when your team is missing key players they wont do as well, that’s logical.

    What Pardew has always done, and this goes back to the sale of Carroll (and has continued on since) that when we lose a key man/men we never seen to just be able to stiffen up the team, keep things tight and try to grind out draws/1-0 wins using set plays, etc to get goals.

    I fully understand that missing key men we can’t play the same game as with them but we also can’t just roll over to 3/4-0 defeats which is something that happens far too often.

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  • manxpie

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:09 PM

    Comment #28

    firebug sorry but rivi and cabella especially, were shocking and thats about 15 mills worth of shocking

    if they can’t create or even control a simple ball when there getting a great chance to show why they were signed and cement a first team place wat chance does pardew have?

    i’ve posted about the defence and throughout history a team needs a settled defence and we havent had one through mismanagement from the owner!

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  • jimmysmith

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:10 PM

    Comment #29

    He’s got a decent 11 when fit that can play a more open, attacking game and probably be considered among the top eight sides in the country, and he’s got a squad that he can use to play a counter attacking game if one or two key players are missing, and he’s got Jack shit when 12 of his squad including his only two EPL standard keepers are out, which is hardly surprising, as we aren’t, Man U, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool or even Tottenham. I agree, blaming the manager, when you’re playing a strong side away from home and so clearly hamstrung, is fairly thin.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:11 PM

    Comment #30

    I’d also like to think that most fans here would be willing to support the decision to start somebody like armstrong or roberts over riviere or gouffran.

    Obviously some would complain but there will always be complaints no matter who is selected.

    I also think the manager should be bigger than what the fans think and select the youngsters a bit more. The ones he has selected so far have been good, offered much more than the majority of the senior lads.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:11 PM

    Comment #31

    It must be fate that we’ll get beaten off the Mackems on Sunday.
    Folk are annoyed now – much worse at the weekend.

    I do not like the arrangements for Sunday in that the Sunderland fans are not being escorted to the ground. Just because of some bridge building by some of the fans after the two lads were killed in the aircrash – does not mean to say that opposing fans love each other. After the horse punching game most of the “Toon” fans were sprogs who had not been at the match . Lose and the same will happen on Sunday.

    King Percy……………………………..OOT
    Mr Tubbs……………………………….OOT

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  • firebug666

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:13 PM

    Comment #32

    Transfer Sage

    I have yet to see a difference even when we have our key men available. The start of this season speaks volumes here.

    It’s not the personnel that are on the pitch, but the way we are set up to play. Our whole game plan is based on total incompetence.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:13 PM

    Comment #33

    Jimmy

    I can accept a defeat tonight, away to spurs who are in good form is always a tough match.

    What we needed to do though was offer more, yes we can lose any game as all prem teams have quality now, but we need to be more competitive than we have in the last 2 games.

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  • jimmysmith

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:15 PM

    Comment #34

    In hindsight, you would be justified in not picking Willo and Gouffran, but he’s gone with them because of their experience and with limited choices, and he really has to play Rivierre and Cabella in a game like this, as they are both big signings that need to be given games and time. I’m assuming with a fitter squad, you’d see less of them.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:16 PM

    Comment #35

    firebug

    I think that is a little harsh.

    I’d say that when we had some pace in the wide areas with aarons, obertan or sammy and having sissoko in the middle driving us through we were very good. Looked a real threat and played really good football, especially on the break.

    Without sissoko we look shot. Without pace out wide we struggle to stretch teams to allow sissoko or perez to make those runs behind.

    I think the winning run was no fluke as some say, but it doesn’t appear lessons have been learned from it and we have gone back to “type” which is annoying. (partly through injuries but also through poor selection).

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  • manxpie

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:16 PM

    Comment #36

    sage well if we grinded out draws he’d still be abused wouldn’t he?

    as i said earlier we have the worst injury record and people are still saying oh we should do better…..blah…….blah

    why?
    we all agreed we had a weak squad until some of the youngsters showed up but now its the total opposite even tho its the exact same squad but with even more injuries!

    bonkers like!

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:17 PM

    Comment #37

    Jimmy

    I’d not play rivi, don’t care how much he cost us. We have a more talented player who has shown he is capable in Armstrong.

    Managers are paid to make hard decisions and that’s one he should be making. Can’t give rivi a free ride just because he was a big signing.

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  • toonking

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:20 PM

    Comment #38

    TS

    the one thing that i think backs manxpies part of the arguement up so much is the amount of times fans have raved on about managers in the past such as rodgers who was classed as a superb manager by bloggers and now can’t seem get any win when all they missing is suaez and sturridge

    then we had the swansea manager who himself had a run that was as bad as pardews run was the year we had europa league yet they think of him as a great one.

    their is just too many bloggers which come up with things against pardew such as rodgers, swansea laudrup and the critism of ashley that then make it so easy for things like injuries missing key players and that sort of thing a valid enough reason for manxpie point to be good points.

    this blog doesn’t have enough bloggers like myself you and pawl who balance the blame throughout the club weather it be the manager, owner performance of the players or the injuries atlease we can balance the blame equally where as too many are too one sided making it so easy to contradict things they say.

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  • manxpie

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:20 PM

    Comment #39

    sage how long have i been saying about wingers? lol

    it certainly shows now as we have absolutely none

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 17, 2014 at 11:20 PM

    Comment #40

    Manx

    I will agree with you that people either over or under rate the squad too often. Rightly so a lot of us have reassessed the squad when we have seen the kids do well so expectations should be higher, rightly so in my opinion, but obviously not so high we expect top 4.

    I also agree people would slate him if we were just solid. But I think most reasonable fans would be willing to accept it in some games when we are missing our key players. Obviously we need to offer some threat still but I do think most fans would take 0-0 or 1-0 wins when we are struggling to get a good team out.

    The manager should do what is best for the team to get points and that might be play defensive football in some games when needed, but too often he doesn’t change anything and we suffer lots of heavy defeats.

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