John Carver’s Record As Caretaker Manager Is Not Good

John Carver and Steve Stone have become two important coaches as they take over the reins for Newcastle until we get a new manager through the door to replace Alan Pardew, and we don;t know how long that will take.

John Carver

John Carver with Alan Pardew during the bad times

And this situation is not dissimilar to when Chris Hughton took over when Kevin Keegan left the club in September of 2008, but we lost the next five games, and Joe Kinnear was brought in –  but the history is that season we ended up relegated.

Things are a lot more stable at Newcastle these days, but it’s also a dangerous time and the last thing we want to do is to start slipping down the league table.

John Carver was caretaker manager for one game in September 2004, after Sit Bobby Robson had been fired and before Graeme Souness took over and we beat Souness’ former club Blackburn 3-0.

But John;s record earlier this year when he was on the touchline when Alan Pardew managed to get himself banned and in seven games in charge we won only one and scored only two goals while conceding 15. 🙁

Sat 15	15:00	A	Fulham	          0-1	
Sat 22	15:00	H	Crystal Palace	  1-0	
Tue 25	19:45	H	Everton	          0-3	
Sat 29	15:00	A	Southampton	  0-4	
Sat 05	15:00	H	Man Utd	          0-4	
Sat 12	15:07	A	Stoke City	  0-1	
Sat 19	15:00	H	Swansea City      1-2

But the fans will be right behind Geordies John and Steve in these two games, and it could stretch further if a manager is not brought in soon, and a week on Saturday we are at Stamford Bridge – there’s an easy 3 points.

It’s also a chance for John to impress and it’s not too dissimilar to the situation when Chris Hughton took over in July of 2009, when nobody else was available, and while we drew our first game at West Brom and Roberto de Matteo 1-1, we won all the other games that August.

Chris was appointed as the permanent manager in October and the rest is history – we were promoted with 102 points from the Championship that season – the highest points total ever by Newcastle.

To complete the history, Chris was fired in early December of 2010, and Alan Pardew was appointed, and now Alan is leaving for Crystal Palace and John Carver has come in as the caretaker manager.

It’s a huge opportunity for Carver and Stone, and we really do hope they are successful in the minimum of two games they will be running things at Newcastle, for the good of the club.

Here’s hoping.

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16 comments so far

  • John Tudor

    Dec 31, 2014 at 9:03 AM

    Comment #1

    ashley out

  • cyprus

    Dec 31, 2014 at 9:04 AM

    Comment #2

    Having lived in the USA, I’m sure you see that a very centralised management, with one dude pulling all the strings, is inefficient these days. In the old Fergie-style days, it was all much simpler. These days, you need a team of people looking at potential talent in all corners of the world; you need someone(s) to analyse opposition and their strengths-weaknesses at any given time; you need people to assess your own players, one by one, at many levels (e.g. endurance, comparison with the opposition respective player, etc.). In short, having worked in management, you know that a one-man-band, a dude who plays all the instruments, is a thing of the past. A symphony orchestra sounds much better.

    SO: a head coach is what we want. Nothing wrong with that.

    And while we are at it: a set plays specialist. Fire the clown who’s been responsible for those. (Unless it’s the guy who’s heading to Palace.)

    On this:
    Rather than rush someone in, it’s ok to keep this guy in for a couple weeks. He’s worked under good managers (and average like AP), so he must have learnt something from them.

  • cyprus

    Dec 31, 2014 at 9:09 AM

    Comment #3

    And, in general:
    Why are some of you so sure it’s going to be bad with the new management? Better the devil you know?

    Under AP, we stayed exactly in the same place when he took over (10th). He flirted with relegation big time, as others have done as well. I think it was time for someone new. Who knows, maybe this talented pool of players can go one step up with a guy who knows what he’s up to.

    You may say, what if we flirt with relegation? Man, we’ve been doing that for a while now…

  • jazzyp

    Dec 31, 2014 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #4

    Sorry ed after how carver reacted to the fans for having an opinion on the mess that we continually have to go through, i for one wont be supporting this man.
    If Mashley was to promote these two jokers to 1st team managers then were in for even more turmoil.
    Surely the fat controller must be able to see that a high profile manager can attract high profile players……. Who the hell is gonna know or have heard of Stone of carver outside of the nufc set up

  • Harley

    Dec 31, 2014 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #5

    Sorry re post

    I cannot see any manager other than one who is on the scrap heap coming here.
    Like pardew was when we signed him, it’ll be a curbishley or an oLeary who will agree to almost anything just to get back in to management.

    Ashley is taking standing of the club lower every year. Throughout the last 20 years it has been regarded as one of the top jobs in football to be Newcastle manager.

    Now you have no marks like pulis ruling himself out (apparently) and clubs like crystal palace sounding more appealing.

    Of the scrap heap managers I’d like Hoddle or Venables. But I’m not sure even they would work for Ashley.

  • John Tudor

    Dec 31, 2014 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #6

    not good enough
    ashley oot

  • Puppet Pardew

    Dec 31, 2014 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #7

    Ed, I was still the manager – simply observing from a distance. John, was never a caretaker on those games, simply my delegate on the touchline. Please get your facts right!!


  • John Tudor

    Dec 31, 2014 at 9:15 AM

    Comment #8

    to be an average team again we need to remove the cancer

  • John Tudor

    Dec 31, 2014 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #9

    pp hahahah

  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 31, 2014 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #10

    I get your point about Mashley being the snakes head, but MAoc tried to unite the fans to get rid of him. Every time it seemed to gather moment his patsy seemed to pull a result out of the hat for him, ie the day 5K leaflets were distributed ny the Chronicle and handed out by the likes of me, his mouthpiece inspired the team to a 2-0 win and dedicated the win to him even after another barren transfer window. Mike Ashley was going nowhere while he had such a willing patsy in charge. The stakes are entirely different now, any manager half decent coming in has seen what Pardew has had to work with over four years and demand concessions, as I’ve said Mashers may well scrape the barrel until he finds a yes man, remember that he has to protect his asset as well, 300M is a lot at stake even for a billionaire.

  • Toon_Tom

    Dec 31, 2014 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #11

    All you guys screaming for Pardew’s head without realising that it should have always been Cashley getting the abuse and banners made in his name finally have what you want.

    Now looks like Cisse will leave in Jan along with Sissoko, Ashley still at the helm, Pirez will probably be sold for 6M in the next 18months, people saying go for DeBoar, Klopp, Rafa etc…..

    Cumon guys, seriously!

    Better the devil you know and all that jazz. I became annoyed at some of APs decisions but we all know Ashley who will go for the easiest and cheapest option in recruiting a new gaffa, will cash in on any player to line his pockets and continue to giggle to his fat self at us lot!

  • thekingisdead116

    Dec 31, 2014 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #12

    Newcastle were in free fall when they last took charge and always with the spectre of Pardew waiting in the wings – this is a genuinely new start – I see little reason why they couldn’t keep the car running till the summer when some very interesting coaches in Europe may fancy it – My hunch is that Newcastle may be looked at as good opportunity to showcase intelligent coaching over just spending a fortune

  • Marty-Toon

    Dec 31, 2014 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #13

    And many thought we were mediocre with Pards,
    I’m really not expecting things to be any better with someone new but expecting it to be a lot worse.
    Pards isn’t interested in investing more than he has done,we’ve seen that.
    Pards was right to leave when he got the chance.
    At least he will know what he’s got to use at Palace,his best players won’t be sold without replacements,he’s closer to family and won’t get the level of abuse he got at our place.
    Best of luck to him I say.
    We’re gonna be mediocre til Ashley sells,that’s how it is.

  • grem1983

    Dec 31, 2014 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #14

    Am sorry but you cant class the games when Pardew was banned as Carver being in charge, Pardew would have still being picking the team, doing all the prep and would have either been giving instruction via phone or they would have had pre planned subs in place

  • tweeds

    Dec 31, 2014 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #15

    Nigel worthington ??????? In to 4/1 from 100/1 , Surely not, i hope this is a sick joke, Carver will probably be given a shot, he might suprise us you never know !! But i agree with the comment about the set play orginiser

  • Big Archie

    Dec 31, 2014 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #16

    A bit unfair to criticize their stewardship during the Pardew butting incident.
    We had lost, and not replaced Cabaye and during the period Colo was coming back from an MCL injury and we lost, at some time, during Carvers 7 game reign, Krul Santon, Debuchy, Taylor, Sissoko and Ben Arfa. No doubt there were others injured earlier.

    And lets be honest – he wasn’t doing it “his” way – he was just keeping Pardew’s seat warm.

    So despite the critical headline, Carver actually has a very impressive record as Caretaker Manager.
    100% win record with an average of 3 goals a game.


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