Newcastle Move In For Revolutionary Top German Coach


There’s a report in the Guardian today that German coach Thomas Tuchel is being considered for the Newcastle United head head coach position by owner Mike Ashley.

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Thomas Tuchel – Newcastle interested

The 6’4″ 41 year-old Tuchel is said to be an excellent tactician and he’s done well at Mainz, and his odds have shortened to 10-1 and is fourth favorite for the job on SkyBet.

Since Newcastle operate the club in the way clubs are run on the continent – it’s not surprising that Ashley may hire his first foreign coach for Newcastle.

The coaches currently above him in the betting for the Newcastle job are Tim Sherwood (2-1) , Steve McClaren (5-2) and John Carver (4-1).

Tuchel managed FC Augsburg for a year from July 2007 and two years later he joined Mainz in the Bundesliga, and he left that club last summer, although he is still under contract at the club.

His management record at Main was 182 games played 72 won, 46 drawn for a win average of 39.6%.

Schalke 04 and Bayer Leverkusen both made approaches for the highly rated coach towards the end of last season, after Mainz had qualified for a 2014–2015 UEFA Europa League spot.

They finished last season in seventh place in the Bundesliga with  53 points from their 34 games – won 16, drew 5 and lost 13 with a goal difference of -2.

Tuchel has introduced revolutionary new training techniques at Mainz and seems to be rewriting the book on coaching.

He is a highly regarded coach who goes into a match with various alternatives and formations, which he can change to depending on how the game is going, and there have been several articles written on his techniques and his training methods.

At the end of last season Tuchel asked to be released from his contract at Mainz, and he left his position in May of last year.

However, Mainz have refused to release him and he is still contracted to them until the summer.

It appears that Tuchel would be available in the summer if Newcastle can get him, but presumably we could also pay compensation to Mainz to get him immediately.

Maybe Mike Ashley will ask John Carver and his team to manage Newcastle though the end of this season.

Newcastle could try to get Tuchel signed to a contract immediately and pay Mainz some agreed to compensation, or else sign him up to a contract that starts on July 1st when his Mainz contract runs out.

Other German clubs are also interested in the 41 year-old, and he seems to be a sought after coach and well used to the continental way of managing a club, when he doesn’t have much say on transfers.

What do you think?

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59 comments so far

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #1

    Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 3, 2015 at 9:25 AM

    Just read the Merson quotes re Pardew. Found this bit quite amusing.

    “He has done an unbelievable job there and those fans, come March, will be sitting there thinking ‘Cor, he was a good manager he was’.

    “We’ve seen it a million times. Alan Curbishley at Charlton.”

    Now, who was it who took over at Charlton that made the fans regret wanting rid of Curbs?? Hmmm, oh yeah. Pardew took over and took them to the foot of the Championship before being canned.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #2

    lilongwe

    Makes you laugh doesn’t it.

    I understand people thinking he did a good job if you are just a fan who doesn’t watch many of our games, sees a 5th, couple mid tables and a 16th, you think “yeh, he’s done ok, why complain about that” but as a professional pundit they should be looking at more than league placings….what resources has he had, how do they perform, long record losing streaks, 4 derby defeats in a row (unheard of), not progressing and building on a good season, no foundations being set in style of play…that’s what a pundit should look at.

    At least Le Tiss was fair when he said he was lucky to have been in a job after such a poor poor run.

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  • tequilamag

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #3

    Do BMW make buses ?

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  • toonbrother

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #4

    what does his height have to do with his coaching ability

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #5

    toon brother

    a little tongue in cheek here but….I read an article not long ago that said being 6’2 gives you more chance of success and most head of companies/chief execs/etc tend to be over 6’2.

    not relevant at all to ability but seems to command more respect.

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  • Ron Knee

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #6

    Quoted in The Mag:
    “Despite public perceptions, fuelled by the media, Mike Ashley had never met nor spoken to Alan before his appointment.” Curious.

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  • 70TWO

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #7

    Any pundit that says AP did a good job in the circumstances immediately raises my hackles. The circumstances were the job he was paid for and lucky to have.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #8

    Sage,
    Most of the pundits on Soccer Saturday are there because they are ‘lads’ and have banter. None of it is because of their analytical skills of football. MOTD is an old boys club where everyone has an agenda to their own side. I haven’t seen much of Neville as a pundit, as we don’t get his punditry out here, but at least he seems to be knowledgeable.

    However, you think you guys have it bad when it comes to punditry, us poor folk who have non British sports channels to watch after put up with the ones that even Sky and the Beeb don’t deem competent enough!

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #9

    Ron Knee,
    Unless there is a link or a named credible source then I wouldn’t pay it too much heed. Anybody can write for the Mag, accuracy and knowledge aren’t required.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #10

    have to, not after…

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  • Ron Knee

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #11

    Sparky
    You’re right. Losing Abeid has been a major setback.

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  • Reyantoon

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #12

    Hope this is true.But isn’t he still managing Mainz at the moment?

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #13

    Reyan,
    He is taking a year away from management, but is still contracted to Mainz. Essentially he quit, but Mainz held his registration on the basis that if he joins anyone before the summer they will still be able to claim compensation.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #15

    I’ll tell you what let Pardew take over at Arsenal and then call up Merson and ask “what do you think of him (Pardew) now” !

    …get sick and tired of hearing x-footballers spout their nonsense!

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #16

    lilongwe

    I feel for you, must be bad.

    Gary Neville is fantastic, same as carragher (although he’s not as good as neville). Manage to explain things tactically, why people made the mistakes too, not just that they made them…they do all this whilst keeping it entertaining too.

    Henry is joining them next season, be interesting to see what he is like.

    I agree soccer saturday too, just there for entertainment, it’s ok when they are covering the games live, quite funny, but the discussion before hand is never detailed, get better analysis in the pub.

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #17

    Merson’s view is like that of others who don’t watch the games every week or don’t understand the games very well.

    Drab, hugely underwhelming and fearful football played with a lack of cohesion amongst the players and emphasis on nicking a goal through individual ability.

    Ironically, when the commentators watch the games individually they are picking us apart as to why we are so bad.

    Can’t remember which ex-player it was, but they absolutely slated us throughout the game then told the world that Pardew was a good manager. It was highlighted by others on here too. Tony Gale was it? Even after a few more games they’d realise a reoccurring theme going on. The penny may eventually drop. Or maybe not.

    Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #18

    Wow some interesting data – being over 6’2″ tall results in you being able to command more respect.
    On that basis Mag52 must be a short arse of circa 5′ tall.

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  • 70TWO

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #19

    Ron knee
    Sleezee Lambezee and his font of football knowledge got a cheap patsy, as he was instructed. What will Lee Charnley produce?

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #20

    Ron Knee,
    Just seen that it is from a quote by Charnley. I stand by the statement that the Mag is awful though. It used to be a good magazine, now it is just a platform for idiots and the occasional informed piece.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #21

    Jesper

    It’s terrible, heard somebody talking the other day saying we should just be grateful to be in the premier league. I don’t know where these people get their opinions from.

    This comment from merson annoyed me

    “The next manager who goes in there will be under severe pressure straight away. They aren’t that good a team.

    “They are not a middle of the table team, in my opinion. They’re not as good as Stoke – nowhere near. So what he has done is unbelievable.”

    It’s just rubbish.

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #22

    I just hope Carr’s list is taken on board and used. If the instruction is left to Charnley to sort out I think it might be. Hopefully!

    It all depends if they wait until the summer or try and snap someone up now.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #23

    this is so exactly the calibre we should be looking at, none of your bruces etc.

    did ash really get 3.5m compo for pardew. outstanding.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #24

    Tuff

    Maybe that’s why willo kept getting picked, pardew just had too much respect for him 😉

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  • JAMSHA(CARVER SLAYER)

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #25

    Thomas Tuchel signd as newcastle manager b4 the chelshit game

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  • welshgeordie9

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #26

    Pardew has gone.

    Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooo.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #27

    Uneducated people sometimes speak an uneducated mind!

    …No offense!

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #28

    Sage/Jesper,
    The only thing that Pardew has done which is unbelievable is make people believe that this is as good as it gets for NUFC.

    Between him and Ashley they have lowered our standing and opinion of us to a point where we should all be grateful to the selfless people that have given Newcastle fans the best that they can hope for without ever asking anything in return.

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  • Ron Knee

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #29

    70TWO
    More of the same, I fear.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #30

    reyantoon

    no he quit mainz and is taking time out

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #31

    Rotonda

    I agree. What they club need to do in my opinion is get this sore of manager and have him sign the contract now (or pre contract) if he is coming in the summer.

    That way everyone (players, fans, potential transfers) know a good manager is coming in and we aren’t just leaving it to a wait and see approach.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #32

    I cannot really be mad at Merson, I just pity him!

    …truth to be told he is not the only x-footballer on TV who makes my toes cringe

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  • 70TWO

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #33

    Why is Tuchel on gardening leave? It doesn’t look positive, tactical genious or flawed personality?

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #34

    Morning all,

    So Charnely has said that Ashley never met Pardew prior to appointing him as manager….well, that’s that put to bed then 🙂

    Go on Lee, tell us about our winter transfer plans and CL ambitions next.

    There for me lies the biggest problem with this regime. I don’t actually believe a word they tell us. Even the most basic of stuff is meet with major cynicism.

    Anyway, good luck with creating “some new exciting history for the club” Alan. We all know you can do it! 🙂

    Joking aside, don’t wish him badly or well, he’s no longer our manager / problem (depending on your view point).

    Adios!

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #35

    Lilongwe

    It’s a nightmare.

    Pardew has managed to convince a lot that mediocrity is something we should admire, don’t bother to try and better ourselves because we might fail and waste money, lets just stay around mid table and not try too much.

    Ashley has managed to perpetuate a myth that he saved the club for financial ruin, when in fact what he has done is double the debt since he came in (and the free advertising he takes equates to the interest we would be paying anyway, so not better off).

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #36

    72

    if he didn’t put us back 5 years ap certainly in no way progressed us and i can’t help thinking with a better modern manager better players may have stayed

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #37

    70two

    From an article I read he was talking to other clubs, wanted to leave but the club are making him work his 12month notice period.

    Obviously they want to do well so won’t keep a manager who wants to leave, so sent him on gardening leave to see out his contract, purely just to make him wait.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #38

    70TWO…That’s a good question. I’ve heard he’s on a sabatical, but not why.

    Might be nothing to it, but it’d be interesting to know. Not a job for the faint hearted, no matter how good a tactician you are.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #39

    TS/Lilongwe…at least as a club and a fan-base it gives us something strive for!

    …to proof them wrong!

    It might be a bit malicious but I’ll be the first to chuckle when Palace fires Pardew before the end of next season!

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #40

    Sage,
    What was it Shankly said, something along the lines of “Aim for the sky and you’ll reach the ceiling. Aim for the ceiling and you’ll stay on the floor.”

    At the minute, the football world, and some of our fans think we should be content with staying on the floor.

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