Newcastle Legend – Newcastle’s Cup Record Is Disastrous


Alan Shearer has hardly been mentioned as a candidate for the Newcastle head coach position, and that’s even after he took over almost six years ago now, to try to save Newcastle from being relegated but was not successful, winning only one game and getting 5 points from the 8 games he managed.

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Pavel Srnicek has said in his Chronicle column, that he would like to see Shearer appointed.

But Alan is too comfortable and doing well as a BBC pundit on Match of the Day, and he has talked to BBC Sport about Newcastle’s terrible recent Cup record:

“Newcastle’s record in the cup is disastrous because they don’t want to be in it.” “League status is their main priority which is unbelievably disappointing.”

“What they’ve done in the last few years in the FA Cup is leave their best players out, which tells its own story – about where Newcastle United is as a football club at this moment in time.”

Shearer’s comments came after we managed to lose for the fourth time in five years at the very first hurdle of the FA Cup.

And we’re still in shock at the team the assistant manager John Carver put onto the field for the game on Saturday – it was weaker than any cup side Alan Pardew ever put out in his four years on Tyneside.

And it was made worse when John before the game had talked about how important the FA Cup was to Newcastle and its fans, and that he would field his strongest side.

He ended up making seven changes to the side that had drawn with Burnley on New Years Day, and missing without explanation (at the time) were Coloccini, Janmaat, Colback, Sissoko and Perez, and of course Steven Taylor was missing after he had picked up a season ending Achilles injury against Burnley.

We were completely shocked when that team was announced and it was almost like – why do we bother even playing these games.

Leicester won that game 1-0 and it was only their second win in their 16 previous games.

It was shameful and completely disrespectful to the 43000 Newcastle fans who made the long journey to Filbert Street, and it wasn’t too surprising they booed the players and John Carver after the game for what was an awful performance and a terrible result.

That has harmed John Carver in the eyes of many fans, and it would now be a complete shock if John was handed the position of head coach by Lee Charnley.

Alan Shearer has it right – the Cup record is disastrous and it’s unbelievably disappointing.

If Alan got the job as head coach at Newcastle it wouldn’t work in any case, because he would want to make Newcastle into a top side.

Mike Ashley couldn’t control him enough and seems to want to keep Newcastle as a top ten side only.

Forget about the top six.

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25 comments so far

  • Santon03

    Jan 6, 2015 at 8:33 AM

    Comment #1

    OMG so we failed since 1969 is MA’s fault?

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 6, 2015 at 8:33 AM

    Comment #2

    Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 6, 2015 at 8:32 AM

    Ahh, back to the classics.

    If Ashley did the things he had said (through club statements, Llambias, Mort etc) for the club then I would be very happy with him as owner. I have no real interest in seeing my club go out and spend 300million on players over 2 years to make it successful (although I accept mine is a minority view on this). A self sustaining club able to spend what comes in and attempting to maximise revenue streams. But we aren’t.

    Firstly, the advertising hoardings. Many state that they’re to cover the interest of the interest free loan that Ashley has given the club. The club however stated, in a fans forum, that these were only being used by SD and its subsidiaries because nobody is willing to buy the space. I know of two people who have tried to buy advertising space on the pitch side hoardings for match days, and were told that it was unavailable. So, there is one bare faced lie by the club, and a failure to maximise club income.

    Secondly, merchandising, the Premier league is the second most profitable league in the world when it comes to merchandise. (based on European Football Merchandising report 2012 and the earlier 2010 report) Only La Liga beats it due to Barca and Real, who earn more from merchandise alone than any other league except the Prem. The Prem has a fairly even spread on merchandising revenues, with Liverpool top, then Man U – these are the only two that really break away from the other clubs. We are probably only talking roughly £4-5million a year at Newcastle, but that could have bought us another Sissoko and Perez potentially.

    Thirdly, hospitality is now outsourced. This one is much trickier to quantify, as the club receive a fee from those contracted. It obviously reduces costs, and the club still receive cash from the alcohol partners but if the contracted company didn’t make profit then they wouldn’t do it, so there is something in there.

    Finally, Wonga. Well reports are that the financial part is less than Virgin but they also invest significant monies into other areas that isn’t noted on the figure. As we don’t know how much this is without a detailed look at the finances it is difficult to say. Either way, having a company like Wonga as sponsors is despicable anyway.

    So, there are 4 ways the club does not maximise revenue, and that is off the top of my head, I’m sure there are others as well. I haven’t even got onto the football side of things to show where he isn’t producing here…

    – See more at: http://www.nufcblog.com/2015/01/05/newcastle-getting-closer-to-signing-ac-milan-winger/comment-page-3/#comment-1401613

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 6, 2015 at 8:34 AM

    Comment #3

    Ha, must have over copied, didn’t mean to get the link at the bottom….

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  • Slank

    Jan 6, 2015 at 8:37 AM

    Comment #4

    We last won a domestic cup in 1955. Since then we were runners up twice.

    Yes the record is disastrous but it has been going on for 52 years before Ashley bought the club in 2007.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 6, 2015 at 8:38 AM

    Comment #5

    Forgot to mention, we were told the club would be allowed to spend what it makes as well. We obviously haven’t done that. A profit of just shy of £10million in the previously announced figures, with the club likely to announce £30million + in the next set of figures. I think some of this figure will go towards the new training facilities, but it won’t be anywhere near the £40mill + we have accumulated in 2 years, and we will potentially have a similar figure again unless we splash the cash.

    We don’t even need to have spent that much, but armed with that why couldn’t we get those couple of players that we really needed to push this squad forward?

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  • Our Toon

    Jan 6, 2015 at 8:38 AM

    Comment #6

    Santon

    Right on time Shearer jumps into the debate of cups not being a priority….yeah we havent won anything of note since 69 but at least we tried up until MA took over!! Not trying is the sin….ask the 4000 geordies that traveled to Leicester to support the team how they felt

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jan 6, 2015 at 8:39 AM

    Comment #7

    Lil…Well summed up. For me, it isn’t the “plan” behind Ashley that I have an issue with. In it’s essence, it’s exactly how I want our club to be run – however, I do think it’s been used to control expectations to the point were many people have become detached from the club.

    Many people champion Ashley for the good things he’s done with the clubs finances, which is all well and good, however, he needed to do those things to protect his investment.

    He’s done the absolute minimum to get the club self sufficient and there appears to be no actual plan to push on from there. Everything we hear is how it’s impossible to do anything better than mid-table – and that’s near on impossible if you’re competing for a domestic trophy or Europe.

    It’s totally deflating as a fan.

    Shearer…You reckon?

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  • cyprus

    Jan 6, 2015 at 8:40 AM

    Comment #8

    Dude, Shearer, my main man,
    Remind me how many cups we won when you were in the team 😉
    And, maybe you can do better if you coached the team? …Wait a minute

    You’re a legend FOOTBALLER. We love you for that.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jan 6, 2015 at 8:42 AM

    Comment #9

    What’s this £50m for Bony story? I know it’s not NUFC related, other than Ashley is he actually stuck to his policy of buy relatively unkown and sell at an almost £40m profit, but £50m? For Bony?

    Surely not. He’s a decent striker, but that’s ridiculous.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jan 6, 2015 at 8:43 AM

    Comment #10

    Sorry, that was a poorly constructed post.

    English is my first language, I promise, but my brain is still on holiday. Apologies.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 6, 2015 at 8:44 AM

    Comment #11

    Yes, Pavel said that Shearer should be in the running, and in the next paragraph claimed that Frank De Boer didn’t have enough managerial experience to take the job.

    As for Shearer, great footballer, but not been great at anything since.

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  • optimistic prime

    Jan 6, 2015 at 8:45 AM

    Comment #12

    I like football
    I don’t like finance

    Whether you think Ashley has done a good job on finance or not the club is in disarray, the fans are at each other’s throats. The club acts like fans are there for it’s bennifit. No direction at all except to the bank to count the profit.

    5yr plan my arse

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  • expatmag

    Jan 6, 2015 at 8:45 AM

    Comment #13

    Santon

    The fact that you are supporting this inept owner tells most people who have a modicum of football knowledge that yours could be written on the back of a postage stamp.

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  • Our Toon

    Jan 6, 2015 at 8:46 AM

    Comment #14

    LG & Ibizatoon

    Spot on lads, i dont want us to spend hundreds of millions, i do want us to maximise profits and give us the chance to at least compete with others in the league fairly. I want us to give cups a go, and this squad has been lacking in key areas for years!! 2 or 3 players max required

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  • cyprus

    Jan 6, 2015 at 8:49 AM

    Comment #15

    Ok, insults now arriving, instead of debate. I’m out for now…

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  • Our Toon

    Jan 6, 2015 at 8:50 AM

    Comment #16

    Ibiza

    Say what £50m for Bony? i thought it was around £30m between citeh and chelsea but £50m….JEEZ

    I’d like it if he did go for £50m though, a penny for MA thoughts who decided £12m was to much for him!!

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jan 6, 2015 at 8:50 AM

    Comment #17

    OurToon…Going forward, under Ashley anyway, I do worry how things can ever be any different. I feel we’ve pretty much hit the ceiling of how far he’s willing to progress us.

    There is talk about wanting CL football, but how we’re expected to get there whilst avoiding the possibility of EL football is beyond me.

    Middle of the road feeder club is what we’re earmarked as. It has many uses for Ashley imo and the risk of going for more is simply not worth it to Ashley. He clearly doesn’t have much desire to be a hero, so what’s he shooting for, the money from the CL? He doesn’t need it.

    Right, back to bed for me 🙂

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 6, 2015 at 8:51 AM

    Comment #18

    So the fact that we haven’t won anything for so long gives Mikey carte blanche to carry on deliberately not trying ??

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jan 6, 2015 at 8:52 AM

    Comment #19

    OurToon…Well, it is under the Sky Sports header of “paper talk”, so should be taken with a pinch of salt at this stage.

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  • optimistic prime

    Jan 6, 2015 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #20

    Ibiza

    I know you can manoeuvre whilst treading water but I doubt anyone would call it moving foward 😉

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jan 6, 2015 at 8:54 AM

    Comment #21

    OP…I use that only in terms of actual time…there shall be no actual movement 🙂

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  • Our Toon

    Jan 6, 2015 at 8:56 AM

    Comment #22

    Ibiza

    I agree we’ve hit the ceiling under MA. As soon as he says some kind of progress or ambition he’ll pull the rug and sell a key player!!

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  • optimistic prime

    Jan 6, 2015 at 8:57 AM

    Comment #23
  • Mag52

    Jan 6, 2015 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #24

    Regarding cup competitions, it’s true, we haven’t won anything since 1969. We’ve been close on a few occasions, but not close enough.
    However there has been no time prior to the Mike Ashley regime when it has been pretty clear that our agenda is NOT to win. That is inexcusable IMO.

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  • banjax

    Jan 6, 2015 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #25

    Ed. Your last few lines have hit the proverbial nail on the head. As most of us have been saying ad nauseum, until Mike Ashley sells up or has a change of modus operandi, then it won’t matter who the manager is at Newcastle !

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