Odds Shorten On Two Newcastle Candidates


The big news today on the search for a new Newcastle head coach was that Steve McClaren came out and said he was not interested in the Newcastle job.

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Steve McClaren – not interested in Newcastle job

This is what Steve told the Derby Telegraph today:

“Sam Rush (Derby CEO) spoke to me about three times last week and I said to him then, “look, don’t worry, I am going nowhere.” ‘I have got a job to do here. I don’t want to let people down here. You’ve got to show loyalty.”

“Derby have given me a great opportunity. They have backed me and Sam and the owners have been fantastic.” “We have asked players to commit to long contracts to take Derby forward, and the staff as well.”

“We are building here and I want to see the job through.” “I love it here. I don’t want to let people down and there is no question of that, despite all the rumors.”

“These things are going to crop up with players and with staff, and it can’t derail us.” “Our objective is to push for the Premier League and we feel we are in a good position to do that.”

“I don’t want to let people down on that. The supporters have been fantastic with me from day one.” “There is nothing in my mind that says I am going anywhere.”

Those are good words from Steve,  and he’s rebuilding his reputation and career after a disastrous time in charge of the England team, so it’s probably a good decision not to want the Newcastle head coach job.

And it’s not surprising that the odds on Steve have lengthened, but those of French coach Remi Garde have shortened.

Here’s the current betting odds on Sky Bet at the time of writing – at almost midnight on Tuesday night:

Remi Garde 2/1
Steve McClaren 7/2
Temuri Ketsbaia 14/1
John Carver 14/1

The odds on 46 year-old Temuri Ketsbaia have also shortened, and it’s clear the former Georgia manager and Newcastle midfielder really wants the job – big time.

And he also thinks that he can make Newcastle successful again.

It would certainly be very interesting if Temuri – who’s available – gets the job.

What do you think?

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101 comments so far

  • jimmysmith

    Jan 7, 2015 at 12:10 AM

    Comment #1

    Staring to look like a one horse race, according to punters. Garde would be fine by me, apparently a good coach, plus he resembles the great Gary Speed, albeit if he’d been cast as a hobbit in Lord of the Rings.

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  • toonbrother

    Jan 7, 2015 at 12:22 AM

    Comment #2

    Garde’s record is a terrible.
    How can he be considered a viable candidate to manage such a volatile team?
    McClaren is throwing one of the best opportunities of his life away turning us down
    Together NUFC and McClaren could achieve great things
    He needs to reconsider!

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  • jimmysmith

    Jan 7, 2015 at 12:23 AM

    Comment #3

    Pards has pulled a bit of rats’ trick there, jumping ship mid season. That no one is criticizing him for it, speaks volumes for the low regard the owner is generally held in, whether entirely fairly is more difficult to assess. Apparently though then, McClaren isn’t coming for all the right reasons, and perhaps a few others he’s too diplomatic to mention.

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  • toonbrother

    Jan 7, 2015 at 12:28 AM

    Comment #4

    Derby. I mean wtf?
    He needs to manage a big English team before his career is over.
    So shortsighted of him to dismiss us.
    Remi Garde managed one of the biggest teams in France and could only muster 5th. 50% winning record.
    He’d be a disaster here.
    All he has going for him is a fancy foreign name
    Not big enough for NUFC. Not good enough for my club

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  • jimmysmith

    Jan 7, 2015 at 12:29 AM

    Comment #5

    Remi Garde’s managerial record, entirely at Lyon.

    G W D L Win %

    117 60 26 31 51.28

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  • BennygivesmeTinglyBalls

    Jan 7, 2015 at 12:39 AM

    Comment #6

    Toonbrother, are you high? Did you not follow the disaster that was England’s euro qualifying campaign? I’ll never rate him for that embarrassment. He’s not the manager we should be looking for, he has no charisma and is way too inconsistent as a manager, he’s failed at his 2 biggest jobs, England and Wolfsburg.

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  • jimmysmith

    Jan 7, 2015 at 12:40 AM

    Comment #7

    Made a handful of appearances for Carlisle, at the end of his playing career. Apparently bright and good with young players. Up and coming and French of course and available. Odds shortening. Ok.

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  • toonicle

    Jan 7, 2015 at 12:46 AM

    Comment #8

    Can’t blame him at all for not wanting the job, honestly who would? Little to no say in who you can bring to the club, best players sold out from under you in january, a transfer policy that’s basically a scavenger hunt for cheap talent that, if they come good, will be sold the first time someone offers decent cash, basicallt ordered to lead the kids to slaughter in the cups, and you as the coach are expected to be the only one who has to march out there and defend these policies to the press and fan base. Not the job for anyone who’s looking to make a name for themselves, not on the positive side at least.

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  • RonVanDam

    Jan 7, 2015 at 1:01 AM

    Comment #9

    Remi Garde is a better alternative to RDB plus he will be able to work with MA’s tight restrictions, also Lyon is renowned for its academy and maybe he can play a hand giving ours a boost by implementing new idea’s so we start farming quality players

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  • Blofal

    Jan 7, 2015 at 1:07 AM

    Comment #10

    Good. McLaren is terrible. Nottingham Forest couldn’t get rid of him quick enough.

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  • jayphoto

    Jan 7, 2015 at 1:11 AM

    Comment #11

    Garde would be fine with me! An improvement on Pardew tho a waste as im sure one of his strong points is scouting? If we are going French he is the best shout

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  • jayphoto

    Jan 7, 2015 at 1:15 AM

    Comment #12

    Ketsbaia has to be a no! His brand of football is awful! Plays for the 0-0! Even at Olympiakos he set the best team in greece up to defend! Hes achieved some things as a manager but he really doesn’t bring the style of football we’d want to watch!
    Similar thing to Galtier! Not as negative as kets but not the most attractive to watch!

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Jan 7, 2015 at 1:17 AM

    Comment #13

    Remi garde is still a massive improvement on pardew whichever way u look at it.

    Knowing Ashley, I still feel it’s going to Neil Warnock or Peter Reid as our next manager.

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  • 70TWO

    Jan 7, 2015 at 1:22 AM

    Comment #14

    Just for comparison:

    JOSÉ MOURINHO 66.4% win 88 games
    MANUEL PELLEGRINI 52% 87
    LOUIS VAN GAAL 61.1% 22
    RONALD KOEMAN 55.4% 25
    MAURICIO POCHETTINO 37.3% 32
    ARSÈNE WENGER 57% 984
    SAM ALLARDYCE 37.2% 159
    BRENDAN RODGERS 46.6% 127
    GARRY MONK 39% 25
    MARK HUGHES 39.1% 68
    PAUL LAMBERT 40.6% 109
    ROBERTO MARTÍNEZ 38.6% 71
    GUS POYET 42.6% 63
    STEVE BRUCE 35.9% 125
    HARRY REDKNAPP 40.1% 102
    TONY PULIS 36.9%
    ALAN PARDEW 41.3%
    SEAN DYCHE 38.5% 107
    NIGEL PEARSON 45.3% 162

    Figures compiled from transfermarkt, I think the % is for overall management career and games are at the current club in all competitions.

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  • Thump

    Jan 7, 2015 at 1:34 AM

    Comment #15

    @jimmy: Don’t give rise to the resident mackem shill, mate. Let him blabber to himself.

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  • toonbrother

    Jan 7, 2015 at 1:42 AM

    Comment #16

    14 70TWO
    Context mate. You cannot compare Koeman’s record at Southampton in England to the Garde’s record at Lyon in France

    In the french league, Lyon only had two sources of competition. Monaco and PSG. Yet Garde’s finished 5th in the league with one of the best teams in France. He may be an improvement on Pardew but that’s not saying much. 5th in the french league with Olympique Lyonnais, is akin to 5th in the premier league with manchester united. No excuse for it. This guy could be a disaster in the premier league

    McClaren is the only viable option in my view.

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  • toonbrother

    Jan 7, 2015 at 1:47 AM

    Comment #17

    @6 BennygivesmeTinglyBalls

    Yes He screwed up the Euro qualifiers yes but he bounced back by WINNING the dutch league -which is arguably more competitive than the french league- with an unfancied team.

    Garde couldnt even finish in the top two despite managing one of the superpowers of the french league for three seasons

    On every level McClaren is a superior coach. Experience, stature & record

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  • Reyantoon

    Jan 7, 2015 at 3:18 AM

    Comment #18

    Still no new manager, wtf is going on ?
    haven’t they interviewed anyone yet ?

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  • expatmag

    Jan 7, 2015 at 3:28 AM

    Comment #19

    Anyone who thinks McLaren is a bad coach needs their head examined. Either that or they know nothing about football.

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  • expatmag

    Jan 7, 2015 at 3:30 AM

    Comment #20

    Reyantoon

    A new head coach will be appointed either early February, once the transfer window closes or in the summer when we may possibly be relegated if the fat man keeps the current jokers in charge.

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  • Reyantoon

    Jan 7, 2015 at 3:48 AM

    Comment #21

    Daily Mail reported couple of days ago that they will hire a new manager by Friday and will let him watch Nu game with Chelsea from the stands.Hope that is true.I think the mail and the Telegraph are some of the most trustable news sources on the internet..

    I watched Fabian Shcar played against Liverpool in the CL,looked strong, powerful defender.And reported will be free agent in June of this year.Winston Reid of westham is also good defender and will be free agent in June as well.Both are cracking defenders, suitable for our club.But first thing first, we need a new mgr as soon as possible!!

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  • Reyantoon

    Jan 7, 2015 at 4:05 AM

    Comment #22

    expat – let’s still remain in high hope because he at least didn’t appoint John Carver yet.That indicates someone good may still come up..
    If he gives it to carver, it’s all over for us!

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Jan 7, 2015 at 4:45 AM

    Comment #23

    @18

    Finding a cheap puppet is no easy task u know..

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  • Klatoon

    Jan 7, 2015 at 4:52 AM

    Comment #24

    those saying Garde’s not good enough, sometimes all that’s needed is new, radical continental methods to get the players going again especially the non british members of the squad. Plus improves out chances with Clement Grenier I’d think

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  • Big Archie

    Jan 7, 2015 at 5:23 AM

    Comment #25

    Brilliant.

    Toon fans show why we are the object of ridicule throughout the country.

    While the majority of posters say that nobody wants the job, nobody can work under those conditions and it is generally considered a poisoned chalice, in the middle of all that we have Toon Brother saying ” McClaren is throwing one of the best opportunities of his life away turning us down”.

    Best opportunity for what? Killing whats left of his career stone dead?

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  • Reyantoon

    Jan 7, 2015 at 5:27 AM

    Comment #26

    Still the good thing is they didn’t give it to carver.Which makes the possibility of continental mgr remaines high on the card.
    I wish I knew what’s Mike thinking atm..

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  • Reyantoon

    Jan 7, 2015 at 5:43 AM

    Comment #27

    That charnley guy must be lazy in recruiting suitable manager.Perhaps his only ability is to deal with player signings.He must have come up with new coach by now and reveal the best recommendations.Is he waiting till the club go to further crisis ?

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  • Santon03

    Jan 7, 2015 at 6:00 AM

    Comment #28

    I assume it should not be that difficult to bring in new manager if he can bring his own team (staffs), I think the problem is finding new manager who can’t bring their own staffs but has to work with Carver & co.

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  • Santon03

    Jan 7, 2015 at 6:02 AM

    Comment #29

    Most managers love to bring in their own staffs unless he is someone from within the club.

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  • cyprus

    Jan 7, 2015 at 6:06 AM

    Comment #30

    Jay,
    Kets brand of football, at least at club level, was never negative. I don’t know where you heard that! I agree with your ‘no’ vote because the guy is a bit of a circus and often in trouble with… well everyone. Like I said elsewhere, I estimate that he’d last about 3 weeks before he was fired/quit/forced to go.

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  • Santon03

    Jan 7, 2015 at 6:12 AM

    Comment #31

    I still that feeling the new manager won’t be someone mentioned before or being linked with. I hope it’s good surprise.

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  • cyprus

    Jan 7, 2015 at 6:20 AM

    Comment #32

    There are some good reasons to take this job:
    -1 to 2 mil a year!
    -A PL club, very likely to stay up, even if he screws up.
    -Some good players, who can take the club to another level. Krul, Jan, Sant, Col, Siss, Sam (!), Cabs, Ayo, to name a few.
    -A good academy.

    The fan base is a double edged sword. Because they (we) are fickle.

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  • expatmag

    Jan 7, 2015 at 6:21 AM

    Comment #33

    Archie

    We tend to ignore Toonbrothers comment as he has a misguided Coloccini fettish……lol

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  • John Tudor

    Jan 7, 2015 at 6:30 AM

    Comment #34

    @23
    i hear Troy Tempest is available at a reasonable salary
    and is quite good at his job

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  • Santon03

    Jan 7, 2015 at 6:34 AM

    Comment #35

    cyprus

    just asking, if new manager can bring their own staffs? or will Carver resign if he didn’t get the job?
    any news on this?

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  • cyprus

    Jan 7, 2015 at 6:38 AM

    Comment #36

    Have no idea. I suspect the new coach would need at least one person with him. Some people come with entire teams, as I understand it.

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  • Vagabond of the Western World

    Jan 7, 2015 at 6:58 AM

    Comment #37

    @toonbrother

    Have you had some sort of operation to help you talk out of your backside or does it just come naturally?

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 7, 2015 at 6:58 AM

    Comment #38

    Santon…I don’t think Carver or Stone are going nowhere unless forced or someone will pay for their services!

    …you know a bit like Pardew 😉

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 7, 2015 at 6:59 AM

    Comment #39

    Cyprus,
    In what way are the fans fickle? This use of the word fickle in football is the same as legend and world class – mainly unwarranted and definitely incorrect.

    Fickle – changing frequently, especially as regards one’s loyalties or affections

    Just based on this blog, how many change opinion of players/managers/owners frequently? I’d say most opinions are pretty well entrenched.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 7, 2015 at 7:01 AM

    Comment #40

    Santon,
    If we get a foreign coach then I would be happy for Carver to stay at the club. His influence would diminish naturally, but he would have a link to the area so would hopefully instil that into the players.

    I am, however, slightly biased as he was my coach when Chris McMenemy and Carver awarded me Player of the Season as a youth at the club….

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