Pardew – 4th Bottom For Palace Would Be A Success


Alan Pardew has talked about his time at Newcastle and it was his decision to leave the club after Newcastle and his former club Crystal Palace agreed compensation to free him from his contract.

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Alan Pardew – while at Newcastle for just over four years

And Pardew says nothing too controversial about his stay at Newcastle, other than what we already know – that it is very tightly run financially by owner Mike Ashley – and that could still scare off some candidates for the new position of head coach at Newcastle.

This is some of what Alan said at his press conference today:

“Newcastle is a big club, it’s difficult because it is run on a tight financial margin. We had to work hard on transfers, the funds for a club that size makes it difficult to understand that we had to build slowly.”

“I am under no illusions – the football community and there was a concern about it. It was the right time for Newcastle but this was my decision.”

“Steve Parish met the clause in my contract and I hope this is the right decision.” “Four years under that monetary situation, along with the history, made it difficult. I have left it with a good base of players.”

“I want to thank all Geordies. My resilience and character has grown because of the nature of the club.” “The most important welcome was from the staff and the players. They have told me what the need and that information is important.”

“The players have a tremendous attitude. We have a tough challenge, we are in the bottom three with 18 games to go.” “Our home form is not good and we have to change that. The players need a lift, maybe a signing or two could do that.”

“Realistically one place above relegation would be success. We need between 35-40 points to stay up.”

According to reports Pardew will get £1M additional compensation if he can keep Crystal Palace in the Premier League.

And that’s certainly worth it to Chairman Steve Parish, given that each PL club every May receives between £60M and £100M in funds based on the huge worldwide TV deal the league has negotiated.

Crystal Palace are currently 3rd bottom of the PL with 17 points from their first 20 games, and Alan Pardew has a decent chance of keeping them in England’s top flight, and they are currently just one point from safety.

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175 comments so far

  • lochinvar

    Jan 8, 2015 at 3:54 PM

    Comment #1

    Setting high standards then Alan ?

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  • martoon

    Jan 8, 2015 at 3:59 PM

    Comment #2

    Pardew was quoted as saying “However the main reason I left Newcastle was that I was sick of getting slagged off by Catchy on the NUFC blog” 🙂 🙂

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  • nightfa11

    Jan 8, 2015 at 3:59 PM

    Comment #3
  • nut meg

    Jan 8, 2015 at 3:59 PM

    Comment #4

    Pardew said he wants to change their style of play…oh dear me,4 years down the line & I still don’t know what our style of play is.

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  • Average_Contents

    Jan 8, 2015 at 3:59 PM

    Comment #5

    Reaching for the stars again I see lol.

    Don’t mind palace as a club and their atmosphere is really good but they’ve just made a grave error of judgement appointing that charlatan.

    It’ll be like any new manager at a club, start of ok/good but once the feelgood factor has worn off they’ll be heading on a downward trajectory. Pulis went in and tightened up ship, the king can’t manage to tighten his belt.

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  • Average_Contents

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:01 PM

    Comment #6

    Nutmeg

    Neither did he lol. I don’t think there’s a word currently in circulation that sums up what we “attempted” to play under him.

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  • Bambams

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:02 PM

    Comment #7

    What an utter mess our fantastic club is in. Not so long ago we were beating Barcelona within SJP…..What an atmosphere that night was.

    Now look at us, our chairman is worth a fortune but would rather be remembered for his bank account than ever achieving something that would go down in history.

    SBR would be devastated if he was still here.

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  • Average_Contents

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:05 PM

    Comment #8

    “I’ve had a couple of texts from Alan Pardew and a conversation. He said: ‘Get your head down, you’re good enough to do the job and I trust you can do it.

    Erm….not sure the deluded one should be dishing out advice like that, especially since he left everything points to the contrary.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:06 PM

    Comment #9

    Pardew’s offical job title should be ”lowerer of expectations”.

    I wonder if fans of other clubs looking in, must ask themselves why things like sackpardew.come existed.

    Then you get Scott Dan saying he is thrilled Palace have appointed an attack minded coach – wtf !!! Wait till you see your GD Scott!!!

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:06 PM

    Comment #10

    com even

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  • JamesToon

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:09 PM

    Comment #11

    pardew has a barca style of play

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:12 PM

    Comment #12

    Tight margins?? 45M on Cabella, Rivi, Anita, MYM, Ferryra, De Jong, Bigi etc, none of whom are starters and who you thanked yourself for buying Alan!!!

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:16 PM

    Comment #13

    four years under tight margins is that him slagging off fatty lol

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:19 PM

    Comment #14

    btw why has he got another thread you will have to cut the cord sometime haha

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  • BandB

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:25 PM

    Comment #15

    John Carver says today that neither he as head coach “or whoever comes in” will be involved in transfer policy. Seems to rule out a lot of theories on the blog about the new boss being part of a transfers triumvirate with Charnley and Carr, or being able to draw up a list of players, or even positions, he identifies as in need of strengthening. Nothing wrong though in ignoring what the man has said in public, calling people who mention it idiots, and persisting with repeating your own wishful thinking.

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  • kdogg85

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:27 PM

    Comment #16

    If Remi Garde is our new manager i hope he helps us raid Lyon for Laczatte, Grenier and Fekir.

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  • Sliema

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:29 PM

    Comment #17

    Lacazzette and Grenier would be enough to convince me to sign Garde up. Neglecting the fact that nobody else wants the effing job.

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  • jimiley

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #18

    We must keep Carver. He reckons he can get us 5th this season. We need continuity and he provides it. 8 year contract. Sorted.

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:39 PM

    Comment #19

    come on bb when has this site been populated by the level headed
    my only surprise is as a newbie i wasnt sent a pitchfork and a torch as a welcome package

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  • catchy in norway

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:01 PM

    Comment #20

    martoon

    I’m proud of that fact 🙂

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:02 PM

    Comment #21

    What self respecting head coach/manager will come to a club if he has no say at all in signings/goings?
    FCB needs to learn that his way of working will never make the club succeed, surely if he wants to promote his sh1tty sports shop even more he’d want a successful club to do it!!!

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:05 PM

    Comment #22

    Certainly makes you wonder what the transfer policy is – or how far it has changed since the process was described by Graham Carr a few years ago.
    1. does the manager/coach have any input at all.
    2.who decides who to look and and who to buy.
    3. did Percy ask for anyone and was he refused.
    4. is Tubbs involved in the actual selection process
    5. is it just Charnley and Carr.
    6. are any undisclosed persons involved.

    More questions than answers.

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  • BandB

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:09 PM

    Comment #23

    Tuff,

    I think you will see the process played out more of less accurately if you tune in to Bargain Hunt on BBC1.

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  • catchy in norway

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:18 PM

    Comment #24

    pardew just proved what a king he is ,

    he thinks that we don’t like him because of the transfer policy , the press in London are mixed up in why we wanted him out ,

    when the truth is we wanted a but more of his legendary attacking on the front foot football

    hopefully one day , one team he manages might get to see it ,

    almost every player on the pitch has been changed in the time he has been here , almost all have been upgrades on what we had

    the word deluded springs to mind

    carver said we could finish 5 6 7 8 , well carver we can finish first , but we won’t , nor will it be 5 7 10th with you here , more like 15th 17th and maybe even 18th

    another deluded fool

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  • LGFUAD21

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:18 PM

    Comment #25

    ToonFromLeeds

    I think the head coach will have a say in new players.

    I think Pardew did but being a yes man all he did was look at Carrs dosier and say “Yep”

    I have no issue with the fact that Carr does the spotting. The coach should have his say on the spotting and Carr should be open to any recommendations of the coach but I think ultimately Carr can decide if they are good enough or not.

    Rarely are managers spotted actually scouting players so its probably fair to say that the scout has a better idea about the players ability than Carr.

    I bet Pardew told Carr what type of players he felt we needed the problem was that, as is clear, Pardew didnt know what he wanted.

    If you give the manager full control over transfers you end up wasting a lot of money. This has been seen time after time. Mark Hughes is the main offender.

    Only in England do managers have as much of a say in transfers and there is a hell of a lot of arrogance among the English to the English set-up which is fundamentally flawed. The set-up of clubs management is not the reason we have the biggest and “best” league in the world. THE MONEY IS.

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  • optimistic prime

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:19 PM

    Comment #26

    Another day another favourite for the job.

    Just think by the time we do get a new manager there’s a good chance we’ll have discussed every manager in Europes pros and cons and still end up with Carver

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  • BandB

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:23 PM

    Comment #27

    LGFUAD21

    That is not how Carver described it today. Now, who do we take heed of? The acting manager, or you contradicting him and explaining (again) how you would like to think it works?

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:30 PM

    Comment #28

    Exactly my point bandb, carver said it so i cant see that being a lie and as such who would take the job under those circumstances?

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  • LGFUAD21

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:32 PM

    Comment #29

    BandB

    I havent seen what Carver has said today. I was saying how I imagined it worked based on foreign set-ups.

    Newcastle fans only deal in extremes. Thats why everyone on here is put into Pro-Ahley or Anti-Ashley camps and considered thinking of the in between isnt allowed because this blog is dominated by a select group of cretins that ruin it for the rest (not aimed at you mind).

    My point is, people on here have taken it as players are thrust on to a manager and he has absolutely zero word. The reality I imagine is far from it based on my knowledge of foreign clubs (I have family that have coached for Austrian and English lower league clubs)

    Scouts find the players and produce dossiers – either they find a bit of everything or they follow specific instructions for certain types of players (eg Manager says I need a defensive mid). Sometimes the manager will then watch the player himself but this is rarer than many would think. Most of the time, the manager has to trust his coaches write up and evaluation.

    Either way, the manager will likely be consulted for what he feels he needs and also more than likely asked his opinion of a player before signing (the “i object” is what it is sometimes referred to).

    The manager/head coach will always be consulted. There is a clear difference between consultation and decision making.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:38 PM

    Comment #30

    LF21 believes that we are trying to win cups despite the club all but saying we aren’t, he also believes that we tried to sign Nzogbia on deadline day and that we genuinely tried to hijack the Bryan Ruiz deal, he also claims it must be true the club said so on the farcical attempts to sign Gomis for £7.8M but turned him down for free, and unbelievably he thinks JfK was sacked for his failure to bring in players, with fans out there so gullible no wonder Fatty gets away with so much.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:40 PM

    Comment #31

    Mister Tuff as usual your view is way too simplistic -Mike Ashley from day one until now finds it hard to get his head around the fact that such a lucrative entity as top flight football is in thrall to that bunch of scoundrels known as Football Agents – His first manager fat Sam made more money from transfer bungs than his salary – Keegans dummy spitting was really cos Denis the dwarf was getting the all the backhanders – Ashley is quite right to try and cut out the greedy middlemen

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  • SuperShearer

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:40 PM

    Comment #32

    @Markaccus from a few articles back.
    Genuinely your answer to my question the most sensible, rational and insightful answer to my question I’ve had. And I work with lawyers and people in the media all of whom have had a much more knee-jerk reaction to the situation.
    So thank you for restoring my faith in humanity.

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  • BandB

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:43 PM

    Comment #33

    LFGUAD21

    You remind me of ToonDarnSarf, who was always less than interested in reading statements of fact emanating from the club which contradicted his theories.
    Like him, you instead prefer to present your own motley selection of unsupported opinions, based not on what is happening at Newcastle, but on your own perceptions of “the way football is going.”
    Carver says he will not be involved, and neither will any successful candidate. Instead, he spells out what the head coach WILL be doing. Which is preparing the team for games.
    And like ToonDarnSarf, you have been unable, when challenged, to resist the temptation to deploy a particularly unpleasant word to beef up your case.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    Comment #34

    I’ll tell you what, if Garde signs on ad Head Coach then we all know Carver has been fed a lie!

    …and if we get another Pardew then Carver is probably telling the truth – that will work for me 🙂

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  • optimistic prime

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:45 PM

    Comment #35

    Cretins clowns fools idiots morons

    Words of wisdom from the intellectually superior balanced posters on the blog.

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:46 PM

    Comment #36

    JFA you make a very good point. Its evident FCB doesn’t give a fcuk about the club, its just a money making business to him. Yes you do need to have a good business brain to run a football club BUT you cannot run a football club like you would any other business! Many aspects of a football club are very different to normal business. Any businessman worth his salt wants his business to be successful, unfortunately the only way FCB is being successful with Newcastle is making money and pocketing it rather than reinvesting it to make it successful!

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:48 PM

    Comment #37

    Gotta say I don’t believe much coming from the club. Most of it had been lies and distorted truths!

    …the worst part is I actually don’t think the club believes it’s telling lies.

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  • DokToon

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:49 PM

    Comment #38

    afternoon all…

    my two cents, or pence or wahtever… love to see deboer, but maybe remi would help with the french tinge we have at our club, and that could help us in the long run….

    glad pards is out, nuff said….

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:52 PM

    Comment #39

    TFL,
    That there in lies the problem, as a business he is running us very successfully, unfortunately for a fan there is little or no enjoyment in supporting us anymore and to make matters worse, that wall of silence and deceit we are faced with is detaching the club more and more from it’s biggest asset, it’s fans.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:54 PM

    Comment #40

    Dok…most of us are happy 🙂 there are few that doesn’t like to talk about it though (and some has disappeared)

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