It was really surprising and maybe the first time it’s happened, that a Newcastle manager left the club because he chose to manage at a smaller club with much fewer resources than a club like Newcastle United.
Alan Pardew – at Crystal Palace
But that’s what happened with Alan Pardew – who couldn’t seem to get out of the door quickly enough on Tyneside, when the Crystal Palace manager position became available.
Alan got off to a great start yesterday when Palace came from behind to beat Tottenham 2-1 at Selhurst Park, in his first league game in charge.
This is what pundit Jamie Redknapp has said today about why Alan left Newcastle:
“Anyone wondering why Alan Pardew changed clubs only had to look at Selhurst Park on Saturday,” “At Newcastle, the ‘Sack Pardew’ banners were on ice. At Palace, they would have carried him out of the ground if they could.”
It’s not an easy job to be the Newcastle manager and the stresses and strains are much more than at a smaller club like Crystal Palace.
Maybe Alan Pardew just got sick of all the adversity at Newcastle, and realized there were easier ways of making a living than managing on Tyneside.
Or maybe he was getting sick of the handcuffs put on him by the owner?
Pardew lasted four years at Newcastle and he did well in his first 18 months when he saw out the second half of the first season in charge after taking over from Chris Hughton – and he did that without Andy Carroll who Mike Ashley sold in the January window to Liverpool for £35M – just to make things interesting.
And then we finished 5th in the Premier League in May of 2012, and everything seemed to be looking up on Tyneside, but then things went terribly wrong.
The squad wasn’t big enough for Europe and we struggled against relegation in the second half of the next season – two years ago – and then last year was just pitiful in terms of our results.
We noticed Newcastle didn’t stand in Alan’s way and let him leave quickly, but now we may pay for that if we cannot get a decent coach in soon.
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143 comments so far
dazzler
Jan 12, 2015 at 9:15 AM
Comment #1He won his first match, they’ll carry him back up north in may.
catchy in norway
Jan 12, 2015 at 9:20 AM
Comment #2I think there is another way of looking at this NUFC job, I hear everything about no top coach will want this job because of the transfer policy, because of this and that,
I think managers are in a win win position when they do take our job, more often than not, managers are sacked and walk into other jobs, sometimes with question marks about why they were sacked,
Alan Pardew is living proof that you can be a crap manager , create some horrific records, and walk out with his reputation enhanced , all because of our transfer policy.
people seem to forget the facts, that P45 had a huge part to play in 3 of our biggest out goings in his tenner, Ba, Debuchy, Cabaye, all wanted to go because of P45, they all had goes at him for the way he plays his football, the world will see soon enough at palace how bad he is.
any new manager that comes in , will be a hero if he gets it right, and forgiven by all if it goes wrong, p45 was on 2 mill with bonuses , that’s a big carrot for anyone , no risks IMO
hibbit
Jan 12, 2015 at 9:21 AM
Comment #3expat done my bit gave my 3 season tickets up last season only been to 4 away games………. to old to run any where
Markaccus
Jan 12, 2015 at 9:21 AM
Comment #4Dazzler
He’ll keep them up. It’s the “right man” theory. Newcastle don’t need a superstar manager, the just need the “right” one. Someone who can work with what we have and cope with the way we are run.
Unfortunately for those whp still care about what Pardew does, he is probably exactly what Palace require.
lesh
Jan 12, 2015 at 9:23 AM
Comment #5This whole thing is becoming yet another pantomime.
Sherwood? Is that the best we can do?
Garde’s clearly not happy with what’s on offer – hence he’s procrastinating.
why oh why
Jan 12, 2015 at 9:24 AM
Comment #6Palace will still go down
They will get stuffed on Saturday
Pardew was w@nk
Tactically inept
I mean come on look at Cabella now .
The chains are off
You cannot at amedonkey and goofy in front of this man
lesh
Jan 12, 2015 at 9:27 AM
Comment #7Of thread…. According to the Guardian, Citeh have agreed a fee of £25m rising to £28m for Bony – at £100k a week!
What happened to Citeh’s issue with the FFP rules?
optimistic prime
Jan 12, 2015 at 9:28 AM
Comment #8Lesh
It’s your fault, I had the job wrapped up until all your nae saying
Markaccus
Jan 12, 2015 at 9:35 AM
Comment #9Anyone else seen that thing about how LVG has exactly the same points from the same no of games as Moyes did last season?? He hasn’t even had the distraction of euro football, so thats got to be considdered poor, hasn’t it???
lesh
Jan 12, 2015 at 9:35 AM
Comment #10Sorry OP, but you could yet he the mystery candidate yet. I’ll get Ashley to call you today to discuss your backroom staff – the way things are going, you must be in with a shout!
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/remi-garde-want-bring-backroom-8422569
Could anyone not see that coming? Have Ashley and his crew any idea just how much of a dog’s breakfast they’ve made of this whole thing?
What a debacle. Di they think they decent coaches are gonna be queuing up to take the job under Ashley’s terms? Fat chance.
No disrespect to you OP.
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Jan 12, 2015 at 9:38 AM
Comment #11Garde is talking a year of due to family reasons. For most people family tend to come first!
…Garde is a dead end I fear. It will be Carver.
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Jan 12, 2015 at 9:39 AM
Comment #12I am hoping for Tuchel though
BandB
Jan 12, 2015 at 9:39 AM
Comment #13Lesh,
I read a report this morning, which could be rubbish, that Garde wants to bring in two of his own people from Lyon. They are still under contract, and Lyon are likely to play hardball for their signatures. Surely the club isn’t going to get into another drawn-out charade with Ashley’s bete noire M. Aulas, who always seems to show up as the pantomime villain for us to boo hiss whenever the club needs a saga ending in someone being “not got across the line.”
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Jan 12, 2015 at 9:40 AM
Comment #14*taking
Transfer Sage
Jan 12, 2015 at 9:49 AM
Comment #15Lesh
So many ways around FFP for a start.
Main one being that you can spread the cost of the transfer over the length of contract. Say he has signed a 3 year deal, that’s only 9 mil or so a year they need to take into account on transfer fee.
There are stories they are looking to sell Negredo and Jovetic too, that will free up money.
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Jan 12, 2015 at 9:49 AM
Comment #16To be honest the only I think has been interview is Garde and one might be interviewed today.
..the rest is purely speculation or a misinterpretation by the press of the words “spoken to”.
optimistic prime
Jan 12, 2015 at 9:51 AM
Comment #17Lesh
I haven’t been given the job yet as I only got my first copy of football manager on Saturday and I still can’t figure out how to sell players. Once I do I’m in like Flynn
Transfer Sage
Jan 12, 2015 at 9:51 AM
Comment #18We need to get a manager in soon, the fact carver doesn’t already have the job makes me think they don’t want to give it to him.
Garde may well want time off, family is more important, but make him an offer now that is very tempting and makes him think.
welshgeordie9
Jan 12, 2015 at 9:53 AM
Comment #19Please release me let me go
i will always love you, just to let you know.
Na na na na na na
Ha ha ha ha
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Jan 12, 2015 at 9:53 AM
Comment #20OP…if you don’t know how to sell players you can forget about getting the job!
…will only help your case if you are equally bad at signing players 😉
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Jan 12, 2015 at 9:55 AM
Comment #21TS…remember MA and LC are going to buy them selves as much of January as they can …for obvious reasons.
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Jan 12, 2015 at 9:57 AM
Comment #22Welch..I heard s cover of that song back in the 80tees by Def Leopard! I think it will be just up your alley!
…do a YouTube 😉
Jeff from Benwell
Jan 12, 2015 at 10:01 AM
Comment #23This article explains that the delay is because some of the backroom staff that Garde would like to join him still work for Hubert Fournier the current Lyon manager–Garde will visit Benton tomorrow——–http://www.footmercato.net/premier-league/transferts/newcastle-veut-il-vraiment-remi-garde_145944
Jeff from Benwell
Jan 12, 2015 at 10:02 AM
Comment #24http://www.footmercato.net/premier-league/transferts/newcastle-veut-il-vraiment-remi-garde_145944
optimistic prime
Jan 12, 2015 at 10:06 AM
Comment #25I haven’t really took much Intrest in the speculation over the weekend.
Lots of talk of Garde and 3 others but I didn’t see anything at all from the club and depending on which story you read we spoke to Garde in France or in London.
I’m not expecting the club to say who it’s candidates are but with all the press coverage I’d expect something a little more solid to go on than rumours of meetings.
The one story that caught my eye was a swap deal with AC Milan involving Santon and Niang, a possibility.
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Jan 12, 2015 at 10:06 AM
Comment #26Regarding the last thread ed.
You stated Sherwood would be a dark horse like the king was.
Factually incorrect I’m afraid. I’m not saying that Sherwood won’t get the job but here’s where your wrong.
The kings name didn’t get mentioned once and I don’t think he ever featured on the betting strips up until near the day he was appointed.
Sherwood on the other hand did feature and prominently too. Initially he just sort of lurked around the 20-1 odds then slowly but surely crept up like a snake to be odds on favourite for the post but once the rumours of garde being in discussions surfaced he became favourite pushing Sherwood out. You yourself have done at least two articles regarding timmy. He hasn’t just popped into the equation has he. So no, not a dark horse really. Sorry to be picky but it does my head in.
I agree with Expatmag from a few threads ago. It all stinks and will continue to do so whilst the slug is in charge.
I can’t shake the feeling that the king’s departure was perfectly timed to coincide with this transfer window, thus distracting the masses from player sales and their replacements and lack of outright purchases we desperately need, all under the guise of “We’ve been busy”
Fat slug out.
Sammyb9999
Jan 12, 2015 at 10:07 AM
Comment #27In reply to Lesh
FFP means they cant make a loss, by buying Bony, they will have to seel to conter balance it. They have an agreement with Negredo who is on loan at valencia.
The Bony deal does affect us as swansea are now looking for a striker and supposidely, cisse is who they want. We are in a strong positions because we know the transfer fee for Bony, giving us room to negotiate. I would take 15m for him on the basis a replacement is bought in
Transfer Sage
Jan 12, 2015 at 10:10 AM
Comment #28sammyb
They don’t even have to sell players, they make a lot of money from sponsorship, TV, merchandise, champs league, etc so a good chance it will come out of that without the need to sell.
Jesper
Very true, but still think they could have just given it to carver and said no players being bought until we re-assess the manager job come the summer….either way they won’t act fast on transfers.
martoon
Jan 12, 2015 at 10:12 AM
Comment #29I know a lot of you are getting frustrated but I actually think the club, for once, are doing the right thing. Drawing up a list of candidates, cut it down to a short list and then interviewing the candidates. This is surely the right way to make such an important appointment rather than, previously, when MA would choose one of his drinking buddies!
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Jan 12, 2015 at 10:14 AM
Comment #30Oh and Mark
Please refrain from using words such as “waste of spunk” “waste of skin” “spunktrumpet” “cum bucket” “cok snot” and “dik sick” as these are mine by law.
Special dispensation CAN be given under extremely stressful times but only once agreed with myself and a payment has been wired to my business account.
Many thanks,
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Jeff from Benwell
Jan 12, 2015 at 10:19 AM
Comment #31catchy in norway p45 was on 2 mill with bonuses —- Pardon myFrench but that`s Bollix He was on 500,000 p.a.as the settlement figure of the remaining 5 years of his contract show
Mickalonius
Jan 12, 2015 at 10:21 AM
Comment #32Catchy ‘people seem to forget the facts, that P45 had a huge part to play in 3 of our biggest out goings in his tenner, Ba, Debuchy, Cabaye, all wanted to go because of P45’
Where is your proof of this ? All three players went to Champions League clubs for more money ? As usual you change the facts to suit your narritive.
Ibizatoon
Jan 12, 2015 at 10:22 AM
Comment #33AC…Pet names for you, used by your parents, aren’t automatically yours by law mate.
martoon…That’s all good in theory, but experience tells me we’re just going to end up with a drinking buddy type anyway and this is just a delaying tactic.
My only hope is that Ashley sees a bum appointment as too risky and acually makes a bold choice. Has to happen some time, right?
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Jan 12, 2015 at 10:26 AM
Comment #34martoon…I think the problem most people have is we always seem to be two steps behind.
…everything either seems to come as a surprise to the MA and nor LC – they seem unprepared, or they just come off untrustworthy.
…there is always an angle!
TS…it’s the angle I am worried about mate!
Slank
Jan 12, 2015 at 10:26 AM
Comment #35What I find quite intriguing is that the names of the other candidates haven’t so far appeared in the media.
This could mean that there are no other candidates or quite uniquely nobody has spilled the beans, which may be a first.
I suppose if the club wanted to interview a candidate who was already employed they would have had to seek permission from his employer, which often leads to a leak of information or even a ‘hands off’ statement.
If the club are interviewing candidates who are currently between jobs then the number of people ‘in the know’ must be reduced so that only the candidate and Charnley, Carr and Ashley are ‘in the know’. In true conspiracy theory does this mean that all the candidates are currently unemployed which therefore reduces the pool of available talent quite considerably ?
Just a thought !
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Jan 12, 2015 at 10:28 AM
Comment #36*to MA and now LC (damn phone)
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Jan 12, 2015 at 10:29 AM
Comment #37Slank…trust your first intuition! There are no other candidates!
Fostino
Jan 12, 2015 at 10:32 AM
Comment #38carver lost any fan vote to become pernament manager when he fielding a team of boys in the F.A. cup. him takimng control would show no progress or ambition as a club.
de boer would have been ideal. unfortuantely we will have to settle for less. i dont blame any manager for not wanting the job. its a posion chalice with too many constraints. however if we can get a good one then i will take my hat off to them and support them.
the season slowly looks like its going to be another boring mid table campaign.
go on another good run..followed by another bad run and so on……..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Jan 12, 2015 at 10:36 AM
Comment #39Ibiza
Incorrect. I had them trademarked so by law they are infact mine and have never been used to describe me. Well not to my face anyway 😉
Coincidentally, it does sound like your speaking from experience. If this is the case then I feel terrible for you me ole mucka. Spunktrumpet lol.
Ibizatoon
Jan 12, 2015 at 10:42 AM
Comment #40AC…That’s Senor Spunktrumpet to you! 🙂