Newcastle Unaffected By Ben Afra Problems – He’s Not Our Player


We got it wrong yesterday when we said that Newcastle would have to pay Ben Arfa’s wages through June 30th, because on 4th January Newcastle ended Ben Arfa’s contract by mutual agreement.

Longer term readers will know we put deliberate mistakes in just to keep our readers on their toes. 😀

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Ben Arfa – in happier times at Newcastle

So basically Ben Arfa is a free agent now out of a job after FIFA somehow decided that by playing for the Newcastle U21 side once – he had played for Newcastle and could only play for two clubs in one season.

So the 18 month contract he signed earlier this year with Nice we suppose has been held up because Nice will not want to pay him if he cannot play for them until next season.

So it’s interesting if they will in fact pay him wages, or whether at the moment Ben Arfa is out of a job.

We’ll always remember some of the great goals Ben Arfa scored for us,

And the Frenchman had the abilities of a Lionel Messi – but without the application, temperament and  character that has made Messi into one of the world’s best players.

It’s really a case of wasted talent with Ben Arfa – but we still hope the 27 year-old can resurrect his career at Nice, either now or next season.

We wish him the very best.

For the record Ben Arfa played 86 times for Newcastel with 14 goals.

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139 comments so far

  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 15, 2015 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #1

    He is hardly the world class player people made out….free transfer and his best option was Nice, says it all.

    more talent than most players, wrong attitude and work ethic

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 15, 2015 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #2

    Regardless of what happened here he is not our player anymore…I think we have enough on out plate than to re-start this discussion?

    Next subject please 🙂

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 15, 2015 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #3

    Jesper

    very true, he definitely divides opinion, somebody else’s problem/hero now.

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  • Obertan's better than Messi

    Jan 15, 2015 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #4

    So Hatem can play for Hull or us …

    Can’t see him being welcome at either training ground with the acrid reek of burnt bridges still lingering in the air.

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  • davetoon

    Jan 15, 2015 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #5

    When is the next fan forum?

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  • Obertan's better than Messi

    Jan 15, 2015 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #6

    HBA like betting on ten tackle accumulators.

    You stand knee deep in losing betting slips but when they come up … about twice in five seasons … magic.

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  • Mag52

    Jan 15, 2015 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #7

    Good luck to Ben Arfa. Hope he realizes that to be a top pro footballer you need more than huge talent.
    As for the upcoming match v Southampton, it’s a pretty important one to give us an indication of how the rest of the season is likely to pan out.
    If we get a point or more from it, the chances must be that Carver will stay on till the end of the season. If we lose badly, we might well be looking at a new manager/coach by the time we play Hull. If we lose narrowly – back to the status quo.

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  • JP...from The Rock

    Jan 15, 2015 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #8

    Shame my favorite player on his day. I just keep thinking if we had a manager in the mould of a Sir Bobby or even a Roberto Martinez they would have taken the best out of HBA and he would be signing an extension now. A true football genius on his day..sadly those were too far in between.

    Good luck Ben Arfa on your new adventure…thanks for the good memories.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jan 15, 2015 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #9

    Sage
    3 years with a 51% win rate under bigger financial restrictions than us whilst fully utilising there youth set up?

    I’d say he sounds perfect, there was one paper than ran the wait til summer story, with no sources or quotes, I’d say he’s massivley realistic

    As for Carver, are we really basing his potential ability on a spirited 45 minutes against Chelsea before he reverted to Pardews 2nd half tactics of damage limitation whilst ignoring the fact we 3 times threw away the lead against Burnley before he stood there and lied through his teeth before the woeful offering at Leiscter?
    Steve Howey may well have backed him but there have been ex players also saying he shouldn’t get it and even more saying he’s a nice bloke but skirting around actually answering the question

    Sorry but we why agree on this, Carver has been part of the problem for as long as Pardew has, just because AP’s taken his hand out of Carvers a**e doesn’t mean he’s any less a puppet
    As for the “kinda bloke to walk” there is no basis what so ever to back that up, not in the slightest

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  • beermonkey

    Jan 15, 2015 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #10

    the words I only run when I have the ball will haunt him for a while and maybe something for his tombstone

    can some1 point me to some article or proof that colo ran mbiwa out of town
    benny maybe but it wasn’t just colo that had a problem with benny
    the only thing I have read that I find odd is colo met with the fat after last season for lunch

    lots of captains give half time talks and other players
    I think it was last season at fullham they picked up 3 points and players came out and said it was parker who had given then a inspirational half talk
    some accounts say old strolla could give a good talk a real shame he could talk the talk and couldn’t walk the walk

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  • martoon

    Jan 15, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #11

    Catchy – continuing the discussion about HBA. I’ve no idea what happened but surely even you with your blind hatred of Pardew must see there is a common pattern.
    When he first arrived here he set up camp in a hotel forcing his old club (I’ve forgotten who that was) to do a deal with us because he had fallen out with them. He was shown the door at Hull quite quickly too – can you see a pattern or is Pardew to blame for his problems at Hull too?

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jan 15, 2015 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #12

    Very harsh tbh seeing as it was an U21 game, but suppose still a league game

    Think there’s only a handful of teams that aren’t FIFA registered that he can play for and think sadly his contract with Nice is now null and void

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 15, 2015 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #13

    tads

    Carver was there under Bobby Robson, so by the same logic he should be fantastic….it’s what you are implying by saying he is going to be like pardew.

    Do you not think chelsea just upped their game after a poor first half? They can outclass us very easily when they fire on all cylinders. I don’t blame carver for that.

    I like Garde, argued in favour of him on here. If he was that keen surely he’d had signed by now? I’m just going off some reports. If he is available I’d get him in today.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #14

    if we lose to Southampton at the weekend 3 or 4 nil, surely that would get the bosses to move their arses in getting someone in, like i said last night if we don’t beat Southampton and Hull then that’s 5 games under carver that we haven’t won.

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  • Oldgit1

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #15

    All you fans knocking the idea of carver being the next manager, I can’t see a problem, there is no guarantee that an outsider ie Garde will do any better than AP. I say give carver the job he has shown he is one for attacking football and the idea of having 3 Geordies in charge is mouth watering.. Ok if they fail, slug will get rid to protect his EPL place. So I see it as a win win situation. I for one will give my fellow Geordies my support. Hope you will.

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  • martoon

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #16

    I’ve just noticed Ed’s Freudian slip in the headline of using the Kinnear term Ben Afra 🙂

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #17

    welsh

    and if we win those 2 games that’s 2 in a row, if we win the rest of our games under carve we could be in the champions league.

    not saying that will happen at all, but why judge him on things which haven’t happened him

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  • Oldgit1

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #18

    @ TDS carver was only the coach and had to follow AP instructions. Can’t belive he had any influence in how the team was set up.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #19

    If carver wants the job full time he’s got to get 3 points this weekend.

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  • lesh

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #20

    Jail……

    So, you and your cronies are meeting at 7am in the pub – for a high-powered breakfast meeting before travelling to Hull?

    Don’t forget those famous words of wisdom that apply in such situations – never eat on an empty stomach!

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #21

    Sage
    After Wir Bobby Carver ventured off into management and was awful

    He was appointed for no other reason than he was a local lad who worked under SBR to appease fans who were more than unhappy with the way Houghton was given the boot and Dekka’s gambling buddy was appointed

    I’m not implying he’s not good enough due to Pardews influence, I’m implying he’s simply not good enough, certainly not as a head coach
    Chelsea turned the screw, and he shuffled the team and played right into it

    Once again Chelsea is not the result we should be looking at, Burnley and the cup are
    The players back him in the press but I have seen nothing in there perfomances to apart from 40 odd minutes to suggest he can get anything out of them

    No sorry not for me, new coach, new backroom staff, it’s far to cosy for the lads, jobs for the boys and its crippling the club

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  • Markaccus

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #22

    Pardew managed eventually to turn even the most patient people against him in the end. Most people had enough of one thing or another. It surprises even me that he still has supporters.

    And, for EXACTLY the same reasons, I am amazed some people are defending HBA. Better managers than Pardew have failed with the fat, spiteful, arrogant cnut. He wont be any good to anyone long term until his head is fixed.

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  • beermonkey

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #23

    if we are to get a new manager then it would be logical for him to be in place before the trip to Dubai as it would be a great place to meet the players and staff and he could make a few tweaks and stuff to training

    to me it looks like carver will get it till the end of the season

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #24

    Oldgit
    You don’t think a backroom coaching team has any influence in the teams performance or set up?
    Ok…….

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  • 70TWO

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #25

    Is this right; Wikipedia says David Ginola played for NUFC 58 times with 6 goals and Hatem Ben Arfa 72 times with 12 goals?

    IMO the difference between them is their style of play, Ginola made more goals for others and was a more instrumental part within the team. Because he passed the ball the opposition stood off him hoping to intercept the ball and therefore had space to move into. Whereas HBA kept possession of the ball more often, inviting the opposition to squeeze the space around him. Especially latterly when he came on in the last 20 mins, his team mates were either to tired to offer the opportunity of a pass and give the defense more to cover, or were unwilling to in the knowledge that he would not pass.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #26

    tads

    I still think I saw enough in the two league games (first half) to not be scared if he was in charge, think we’d be ok….but like I say, would prefer a better manager who is a manager by trade, not a number 2.

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  • sparky55

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #27

    jail

    Got a song for you to sing on the terraces against Hull

    to the tune of “he’s only a poor little sparrow”

    He’s only a fat b@stard cockney
    Who came up and started a war
    He’s just a big knob
    who’ll give Carver the Job
    And no we don’t want you no more

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  • stan anderson

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #28

    I,ll bet me house on Super Carver for next coach.
    What a sham,pretending to be looking for a new man when the have no intention of doing it.
    They are pulling the wool over peoples eyes and most people fall for it.
    I also here fans talking of not renewing S/Ts as was the same last season and the season before but we still get 50,000 plus at games.No wonder we are stuck with the fatman.

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  • geordie157

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #29

    If Munoz can be purchased this month for a couple of million then we should be in for him, even if a permanent manager isn’t installed.

    Think he’d be a decent signing and Ashley will like the fact he could make some money on him in a few years.

    When we are definitely safe, if no centre backs are brought then we should be giving one from streete, good or satka some games probably alongside Colo or maybe dummett

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  • stan anderson

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #30

    Ginola was streets ahead of Fatem,no comparison at all except they were both French.
    Towards the end of Ginola,s spell with us i believe he became bored and was drawn to the bright lights of London.Shame he went and played even better for the Spuds.

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  • stuart no9

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #31

    Off to Dubai again??? Well, there’s one thing you cam say about pardew , he,s a Shyte manager but a bloody good fortune teller . He should be on the town moor .

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  • stuart no9

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #32

    Markacuss. , so your not too fond of bennie then ? Lol

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  • stan anderson

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #33

    It,s sad that some fans on here seem to think as Ashley does.We are a selling club with no ambition other than make more money for an already very wealthy slug.

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  • stuart no9

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #34

    Sparky —– hahaha

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  • Markaccus

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #35

    Ginolas goal ratio was about the same for spurs as it was for us. He was a creator. Despite his freedom from defensive duties, he was still very much a team player. Whatever his assists record is would still probably not do justice to the amount of mayhem he caused in defences.

    Comparing him and fatem is like comparing SBR and Pardew.

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  • Markaccus

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #36

    Stuart.

    He provided some occasional brilliant moments, and during pardews early days he was integral to helping us survive. But after his inevatable strop, he rendered himself useless imo, and his attitude reeks.

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  • Average_Contents

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #37

    And there we have it folks. Getting hold of rangers stadium with the added bonus of if it goes through that nobody else can offer loans to the club against the stadium. Horrible kunt.

    http://mobile.newsnow.co.uk/A/753480182?-11058:809

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #38

    Common Ed…you are just doing this in spite!

    …next topic please!

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  • stuart no9

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #39

    Sparky —- to the same tune —— your only a fat f…..king cockney
    Your only a fat little c…t why don’t you f..k off back to where you come from you Pr.ck and take your fat fu…ing friend with you you ba….rd, It might not rhyme but it doesn’t matter , he.ll get the drift

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  • 70TWO

    Jan 15, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #40

    I can’t remember if the Mbiwa loan stall story was done yesterday but perhaps NUFC should offer to swap him for Alessio Romagnoli (20) who they have on loan at Sampdoria. He can HEAD the BALL!

    http://youtu.be/bFlcHqhjFUQ

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