Koeman – Some Newcastle Fans Will Be Feeling Bad


We were hammered at Southampton 4-0 for the second season running on Saturday 13th September, and that was really when the fans this season started to turn against former manager Alan Pardew.

alan pardew and team at southampton

The Newcastle coaching team at St. Marys’ in September

And Newcastle have a chance tomorrow to equal the score, and hopefully get our first win since Alan Pardew left the club on 3rd January,after taking up the manager position at his former club Crystal Palace.

Southampton’s successful new Dutch manager Ronald Koeman doesn’t think it’s a good time or a bad time to be playing Newcastle United:

“I don’t think it is a good time or a bad time to face them.”  “Every game is different.”

“They play at home, they have had some defeats in the last few weeks and, for sure, they will have some fans feeling bad about the 4-0 that they got in Southampton.”

“But we know they are a strong team at home. They beat Chelsea at home, but it is not easy to beat Southampton.”

With John Carver as the caretaker manager, we have now played three games and drawn 3-3 with Burnley at home, lost 1-0 at Leicester City in the FA Cup and then lost 2-0 last Saturday at Chelsea.

The first 45 minutes of the games against Burnley and Chelsea are when we played very well – especially at Chelsea last weekend.

But Newcastle have been so inconsistent, and we cannot seem to put two good halves together.

The bottom line is that we need a win tomorrow, and whatever John Carver says about how well we played last week at Stamford Bridge in that first half, results are what matters right now.

In fact results are what matters in football – period.

A win tomorrow would be terrific and we can go into the two week break with some hope we can do well through the rest of the season.

On the other hand, a defeat would be terrible – it would be (very) hard to take, and should put pressure on Managing Director Lee Charnley to bring in a new head coach – certainly before the end of the month.

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  • Markaccus

    Jan 16, 2015 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #1

    I think we could say about Ashley what Frankie Boyle said about John Prescott

    “A man who, if he wore a belt and a tie at the same time, would turn into sausages”

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  • toonking

    Jan 16, 2015 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #2

    from previous thred

    goofy

    newcastle un-united.

    fans on this blog argue over what type of manager ashley will attract, some expect quality to come others expect yes men.

    fans aregue over how good the team is, some believe we are capible of top 4-6 with a quality manager, others think we are mid table even with quality managers whilst ashley is here.

    we can’t even agree on when to leave stadium.

    this is why i keep saying “i hope we get relegated” if fans can’t become fully united and do what rangers do then it’s relegation that will be the best hope.

    the say loosing pardew for that off chance of a quality manager coming in is worth taking, well so could relegation as it was the year we were in the championship that ashley really wanted to sell us.

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  • Go toon gooooo

    Jan 16, 2015 at 5:21 PM

    Comment #3

    Newcastle win.

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  • Sazzer

    Jan 16, 2015 at 5:27 PM

    Comment #4

    We should go out and loan Raul Jimenez from Athletico Madrid only 3 starts and 7 subs without Torres. So with that into account I can’t see that his playing time wiill increase all that much. It could be win-win for both teams. With or without a buy-out clause.

    We could also go out and buy Davie Selke while he’s still in our price range and let him find his feet behind Raul Jimenez in the beginning if we can’t buy Raul if he’s a success.

    Also Sebastian Rode should be available for a loan or at a reduced price with a buy-back option. He’s great player a little bit rough still but the Bayern midfield is crowded anyway.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Jan 16, 2015 at 5:36 PM

    Comment #5

    A good test of Carvers credentials this —- Soton will test any side —- If he can pull a win out the bag, he deserves a crack at the job

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  • Goofy

    Jan 16, 2015 at 5:39 PM

    Comment #6

    Boycotting is the only way. Many fans want to take their kids to a game but I’m pretty sure there are no kids really relishing going, probably more of a chore like Sunday School to them as things are.

    Even if they have bought tickets, whether a single or season ticket just don’t go, fatty may already have the money in the bank but will notice the programme, pie and drink sales go down, plus an empty stadium with sky cameras advertising SD crap will definitely look pretty bleak.

    I used to look forward to Saturday’s, transfer windows but now not getting excited about games, always wanting transfer window to speed up in case we sell our quality players.

    The guy is ruining football, and I’m hoping that he isn’t encouraging others of his ilk to invest in football, that would kill the whole entire league, a bunch of ex Casino owner type, clueless about our lovely game, in it for a pound and free advertising, the end would be nigh to football as we know it.

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  • Belfast

    Jan 16, 2015 at 5:42 PM

    Comment #7

    Terrible gag Markass

    Please give Welshie his book back

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  • Markaccus

    Jan 16, 2015 at 5:46 PM

    Comment #8

    Bellendfast

    Cant be from welshies book. If it was it woulf have ended in “ha ha ha”

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  • Belfast

    Jan 16, 2015 at 5:47 PM

    Comment #9

    You’re right

    Ha ha ha etc etc

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  • toonking

    Jan 16, 2015 at 5:52 PM

    Comment #10

    goofy

    here is an idea i think is the best one possible.

    SUPPORT GATESHEAD.

    lets look at the facts.

    cashley himself will more than likely remain as owner as long as we are in the PL.

    no matter how many fans boycott games there is still going to be other fans more than happy to continue.

    fans don’t want ewcstle to get relegated.

    their is currently only 4 clubs from the whole of the north east in a league “probably 3 next year”.

    so if we don’t want them relegated and knowing that fans will continue to go as the nearest league club is 14 miles away, why don’t those most serious about getting him out, go and support gateshead?

    head line “gateshead united, newcastle un-united”

    story, have the geordies finally stopped supporting newcastle. perhaps they now know a new club is ready and waiting to recieve the support needed to get themselve into this league replacing that old club some would call sports direct united

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  • Goofy

    Jan 16, 2015 at 5:54 PM

    Comment #11

    @Toonking
    Sounds like a plan 😀

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  • Markaccus

    Jan 16, 2015 at 5:55 PM

    Comment #12

    Toonking

    Trouble is, it would be really hard for loyal fans to just switch off altogether. Theres people who come on here who have been going to sjp for over half a century!

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  • scout

    Jan 16, 2015 at 5:59 PM

    Comment #13

    See ya tomorrow Koeman well see how easy you are to beat. Sissoko will run you off the park.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:01 PM

    Comment #14

    TOONKING — Great idea — off you trot — don`t slam the door on your way out

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  • toonking

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #15

    the difference between just boycotting newcastle alone to both boycotting and going to another club is ashley is right now ashleeey has got nothing needs to compete against as fans willl nevergo to the mackem, if he had gateshead makingm their way up the leagues, he would now need to make sure he keeps fans happy. knowing they could divert to gateshead.

    mark
    if boycotting doesn’t work thats why i say relegation is the best choice, the trouble with that one is fans will just do what they did whilst pardew was here, they’ll turn their anger towards the manager.

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  • toonking

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:06 PM

    Comment #16

    i could say that’s a reason i’m so pleased he’s left!

    knowing we will never improve during ashley time, maybe now we might get the chance of an awful manager coming in to see us go down.

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  • optimistic prime

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:10 PM

    Comment #17

    Goofy

    Boycotting wouldn’t make any difference at all.

    The extra tv money is over twice what gate receipts are. The food and drink money etc is outsourced and the club get a set fee (as I understand it) so wouldn’t affect him until it’s up for renewal.

    Empty seats wouldn’t bother him either his ads would catch the eye better without those pesky customers ruining the tv angle.

    I personally think the new tv money is the beginning of the end, fans are becoming less and less important to a club as their ticket money is a fraction of what’s generated elsewhere. EPL Clubs DONT need fans like they used to.

    He may twist his face if he’s wasnt making as much profit as he could but the club can now easily survive without one fan going through the gates!

    How often are matches changed to suit tv and fans are left stranded with no travel available. It’s only going to get worse IMO

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  • Goofy

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:18 PM

    Comment #18

    Optimistic prime

    Well seems like we have no other choice but to kidnap, strip and bound him and leave him in the centre of Glasgow, see how long he lasts in front of a drunken, crazed bunch of Rangers fans, I’d pay to see that (pretty dark I know :D) with my phone videoing and posting it to all media upload sites.

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  • Sazzer

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:20 PM

    Comment #19

    Jesper if you read this. What’s your thoughts about Pione Sisto?

    He looks very promising. Him and Christian Eriksen are going to be interesting to see together considering they both have great vision.

    Check out the pass at 2.40, Excellent stuff,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp-kJS114uM

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  • optimistic prime

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:20 PM

    Comment #20

    Goofy

    Since this all started I’ve said the same thing.

    The only way to out Ashley is to make NUFC poisonous to SD, once we’re of no benefit he’ll leave.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:21 PM

    Comment #21

    Markaccus and Belfast.

    You two have asked for this for being cheeky, time to open up my joke book.

    When people go underwater in scary movies, I like to hold my breath and see if I would have survived that situation.
    I almost died in Finding Nemo.

    Ha ha ha

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  • optimistic prime

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:23 PM

    Comment #22

    I enjoyed the year in the championship , it’s the only time we’ve really competed in Ashley’s reign.

    Don’t want to go back though

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  • catchy in norway

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:25 PM

    Comment #23

    jeff

    it’s plonkers like you why this club is in a bad way ,

    in no way shape or form should carver be given any roll at this club , he just spent 3 years being a yes man to a yes man ,

    we someone to come in , hungry, wanting the challenge to change things , shake the whole training up,

    having carver there will only let him have some input , and why would we want that when he thinks p45 was on the right track , the guy spouted off in the chronicle about how he seen souness was the wrong man , yet 3 years and umpteen shocking new records set , he couldn’t spot p45 was a conman

    fans like you and manx buy right into that crap

    he came out and said I get to train with the attacking side of things 1 day a week , and it showed on the pitch , the man had no balls to tell p45 it was wrong, in stead he picked up his pay check and kept quiet.

    we don’t want him

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  • catchy in norway

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:27 PM

    Comment #24

    OP

    and that’s the only time I think the club felt united , CH had the hardest job , he lost half a squad , didn’t moan , just got on with it , and pssst the league,

    he played to the squads strength, he adapted

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  • firebug666

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:32 PM

    Comment #25

    welshgeordie9

    Poor poor Welshie, didn’t even know he had left school till his mummy stopped going for him.

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  • Goofy

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:33 PM

    Comment #26

    I’d give Carver till the end of the season. Yeah he wimped out to Pardew but was with the squad the whole time, knows who they are, what their strengths are, what the fans expect.

    Chelsea weren’t on top of their game against us in the first half but do think Carver said go for it, I doubt with Pardew still in charge we wouldn’t have been as good going forward and Chelsea would’ve got to grips a lot quicker and quelled us early on, the 2nd half was probably them getting the hair dryer treatment from Mourinho.

    Carver might preach the attacking thing so I reckon he’s worth a gamble for the remainder of the season.

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  • toon kk

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:33 PM

    Comment #27

    Optimistic
    A boycott may not make much difference to Mash, but it would certainly send out a big message world wide that fans arnt happy with the way our club has become a joke.
    I don’t think MA would like that kind of publicity.
    It would never happen too many fans think everything is hunky dorey.
    people will soon find out the troubles at the club are deeper than Pardew.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM

    Comment #28

    24firebug666

    It’s called having a sense of humour, clearly you haven’t got one.

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  • Munster Mag

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM

    Comment #29

    Catchy i agree with some of what you say, but am flexible ( although a bit negative ) re Carver. His team played more attacking football v Chelsea and Burnley. He does cow tow to Ashley ( in fairness he wants the job – will people like you respect him if he walked ? Doubt it – and he will be jobless ) but he isnt a Pardew clone, not at all. ut it this way, if he gets a lot of points playing attacking football between now and end of season, with better defence and better free kicks ( have improved a;lready ) , will you give him better consideration then – ie if he proves himself. I would prefer a contiental boss but it is fraught with risks – plenty of failures. I’m sure Pepe Mel wasnt a village idiot when he got the West Brom job ? Thoughts ?

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  • firebug666

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:43 PM

    Comment #30

    Welshie

    You mean you didn’t find that funny? Clearly you humour doesn’t get past the five year old standard.

    Or are you just bitter because you were 21 before you realised the gas metre wasn’t your money box.

    Lighten up mate, you know mate, just a bit of fun mate.

    Ha ha ha

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  • Goofy

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:44 PM

    Comment #31

    Carver plz stop playing Williamson, Dummett is a much better CB and Haidara much better LB, (better than Santon at crossing) Jesus I’m better than Williamson and I’m nearing 40.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:46 PM

    Comment #32

    I would laugh if it was a joke or it was funny but it was neither.

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  • firebug666

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:49 PM

    Comment #33

    Welshie

    Maybe now you know how sum of us feel mate.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:50 PM

    Comment #34

    i suppose that bit is true.

    Ha ha ha

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:51 PM

    Comment #35

    Sazzer…Pione Sisto is definitely a talent mate 🙂

    …but right now I am just enjoying Pierre Emil Højbjerg who is 19 and playing for Bayern. I hope Fischer is injury free soon.

    It could look good for Denmark in a few years time.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:52 PM

    Comment #36

    Has anyone seen the true geordie playing football manager 2015 on you tube he even swears playing a football game.

    Ha ha ha

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:52 PM

    Comment #37

    catchy in norway————-`On 8 September 2008, Hughton was named caretaker manager of Newcastle following the departures of Keegan, Terry McDermott and Adam Sadler. After a defeat to newly promoted, but in-form Hull City and a League Cup exit to Tottenham Hotspur ( sound familiar ? ), Hughton stood down as caretaker and was replaced on a temporary basis by Joe Kinnear. Hughton was promoted to Assistant Manager after the Magpies appointed Colin Calderwood as First-Team Coach on 26 January 2009.`——–so was CH a yes man to JFK?

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  • optimistic prime

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:56 PM

    Comment #38

    Toon KK

    Plenty of people know, Lineker Shearer quite a few journos but there either 5hitty arses who won’t say anything or smug wankers who don’t care.

    They’ll have a slight dig or back handed compliment but not one would stand up and say it’s out of order.

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  • John Tudor

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM

    Comment #39

    he is over 18yo

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM

    Comment #40

    Sazzer…it would probably be good for him to join the other Danes at Ajax.

    …it would be a good way to progress 🙂

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