Newcastle Show Poor Judgement And Compromise The Club


Alan Oliver in the Sunday People is reporting that Newcastle have interviewed four candidates for the head coach position, including the favorite Remi Garde, but it seems that none of the candidates are willing to join Newcastle half way through the season.

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They don’t seem to think things through

Maybe Mike Ashley should have thought about that before he agreed to let Alan Pardew go to Crystal Palace for the £4M compensation fee – but Mike goes for the money, as we all know.

The People are speculating that John Carver may still be in charge in May, even though in the last year when he’s been in charge of four games as caretaker manager and seven games on the touchline when Pardew was banned,  he has won one and drawn one, and lost the other nine.

That’s just a terrible record.

And the People is also reporting Newcastle have more names on their list that they want to check out and will not be rushed into appointing a new head coach.

But we are already in a slump and have taken only 4 points from the last seven league games – it could therefore be a dangerous path to take.

Just like clubs don’t like to lose their players in mid-season it’s also true with their managers, but Newcastle should have realized that before they let Pardew go.

The powers that be on Tyneside never seem to think these things through fully, but go for the money far too quickly.

It’s all very sad – and also a rather incompetent way of running any business.

The first thing you always do before letting personal leave, is to make sure your own business will not suffer – like in this case – who could come in – who would be the replacement if Pardew leaves?

And if you cannot get somebody in that’s suitable, then you don’t let your manager leave until the summer, because if you do – you are compromising the business – you are taking  a (big) risk.

Newcastle have not done any of that due diligence before they let Pardew go, and that’s now becoming clear.

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89 comments so far

  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 17, 2015 at 11:48 PM

    Comment #1

    This is pathetic now. It shows that the club do not think ahead at all, everything is always done late.

    How often did we get 2/3 weeks into a transfer window then pardew would come out and say, next week we’ll sit down and discuss transfers….well we are doing the same with a manager.

    We should have a list of managers just in case, we should have a list if players for each position to strengthen us and players ready if we get an offer on one of ours.

    Consistently failing to plan is unforgivable. I never see sports direct shelves empty for weeks before they decide to go out and buy new stock.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jan 17, 2015 at 11:49 PM

    Comment #2

    don’t believe this for one minute.Surely the job is vacant NOW. When making the initial contacts with suitable candidates surely the Toon would have said when the appointment was to start ie NOW.
    Folk would not bother wasting their time being interviewed when they were unable to fulfil the start requirement.
    This leads me to think there have been NO formal interviews at all.

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  • beermonkey

    Jan 17, 2015 at 11:51 PM

    Comment #3

    sage

    have they actually started the upgrades yet
    we got our cat1 status on the strength of the up grades being done

    there will always be suspicion when there is no communication
    if they say something then we know if they say nothing opinion is divided and we are one divided fan base

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 17, 2015 at 11:51 PM

    Comment #4

    beer

    I replied on previous post.

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  • West Lancs Geordie

    Jan 17, 2015 at 11:52 PM

    Comment #5

    This is a spot on article & John Carver is going to be able to appear surprised when he is handed the job to the end of the season but told there is no money to spend on players just like Pardew was told when he left for Palace. January 31st is going to be another frustrating day for Toon fans when Sissoko despite a big price tag being put on him & Cisse is/are sold without replacements. Otherwise don’t be surprised if Aarons, Tiote,Krul or Perez are not sold.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jan 17, 2015 at 11:53 PM

    Comment #6

    watching MOTD earlier. Phil Neville isn’t too bad at disecting the game and giving a half decent analysis.
    Tonight he said (cannot remember the exact words) that King Percy style was attacking football.
    Another urban myth is born. His style up here was to opposite -no wonder others are ill informed about the club.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 17, 2015 at 11:57 PM

    Comment #7

    tuff

    It really annoys me, they talk utter rubbish. Do they never look at even basic stats like goals scored? games won? etc…never mind looking at the style of play.

    It’s like when the commentator every game will say, Mike Williamson is a useful target from corners…..no he bloody isn’t.

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  • West Lancs Geordie

    Jan 17, 2015 at 11:58 PM

    Comment #8

    Sage I’ve been trying to tell you this all night. I know you are completely black & white like me but we are never going to get transparency whilst this man runs the Club. He is on a one man crusade. All Carver needs to do now is turn down the job & Cashley is in S Street. Him and Stone may then be out of work but they’ll soon get employed eleswhere if they are as good as what people say

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  • West Lancs Geordie

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:00 AM

    Comment #10

    Can see your a Willo fan like me Sage – NOT.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:00 AM

    Comment #11

    west lancs

    I know, I’ve been well against ashley for a long time.

    I appreciate what you say, but carver will genuinely believe he can turn things around with these players, also he might get a job elsewhere but coaches aren’t on that much money, so could he afford to relocate his family (even if he wanted to).

    I don’t blame him waiting around, either getting the job, working with the new manager or get his pay out……not many other prem league clubs near by to take him on same wages.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:02 AM

    Comment #12

    west lancs

    I actually like willo, I think he has genuinely tried to learn to be good on the ball, can see him trying but he is so uncomfortable. He doesn’t even do basic defending right at the minute.

    I feel for him, he’s trying but isn’t good enough, I want him gone but never dislike a player who will give it his best.

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  • lukes26

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:02 AM

    Comment #13

    If I were Mike Ashley, I would think:

    There’s 8 games left at home.

    Newcastle aren’t going to be relegated or compete for Europe.

    Why would I spend on transfers? My money would be better spent in the summer.

    Even if there’s a fan revolt & SJP is half empty, what am I losing..maybe 4 million/5million

    Money better spent on a manager who can re-evaluate players, then spend in summer accordingly.

    As a fan though, it’s another season of frustration for a season that never got momentum, due to injuries etc.

    For Mike…the fans have given up on him and he probably has stopped caring too much about what fans think of him. I think one would have to.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:03 AM

    Comment #14

    beer

    thanks, i totally missed all that haha

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  • West Lancs Geordie

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:05 AM

    Comment #15

    We are 2-1 down with not much time left & we take off Dummett & send on Willo the weak whose scoring record from corners is second to everyone & is a slow weak defender. Dummett I expect was injured so why didn’t he go 3 at the back and bring on a more attacking option – Armstrong, Abeid or even Santon. Strikes me that Abeid & Santon were not really fit enough for even the bench & maybe there is a done deal with Milan for Niang to come with Santon in part ex

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:06 AM

    Comment #16

    lukes26

    I don’t think we will be relegated either, but that’s a terrible attitude for somebody to have. Especially when the club stated their season target publicly was top 10 minimum.

    The club should hire a manager now, or give carver the job officially for 6 months. There is no reason they couldn’t buy some good players now, regardless the new manager will assess the current lot anyway.

    They have also said they are a looking for a head coach who will work with the players given to them, so shouldn’t make a difference.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:06 AM

    Comment #17

    west lancs

    I hope we don’t get Niang, terrible attitude on the lad, the type of player we don’t need.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:10 AM

    Comment #18

    If Tubbs is “successful” in his efforts north of the border we’ll be sold.
    If my assessment is correct Tubbs will not want to spend any money at the Toon in order to maximise his profits/ill gotten gains.

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  • Munster Mag

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:10 AM

    Comment #19

    Luke we are 7 points ahead of burnley. Do you think that is safe? I didnt buy linekers theory as i thought it was too obvious. But looks like its all a plan to save a few measly million on transfers. I ‘m livid.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:12 AM

    Comment #20

    muster

    i think we only need 10 points to stay up, for an average season

    surely we will manage that

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  • beermonkey

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:16 AM

    Comment #21

    I like to think we wont go down but it is a concern
    we need west ham to beat hull later today

    I hope the fat man looks at it and like the jan window he stepped in and bought some players he appoints a manager
    but I cant see any players coming

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  • West Lancs Geordie

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:16 AM

    Comment #22

    Sage I fully support your views and honesty about Willo & Carver but the centre of defence must be strengthened in this window. Colo who has stuck with us thro difficult times miles away from home is now starting to make costly mistakes. Saylor is a great lad. I go to more away games than home but he is always the first one to come and applaud our away support but he misses more games than he plays. Willo tries but he is just no Premiership. Don’t know about Dummett (one of the very few to make it thro the ranks. Worth keeping for future. But we do need at least two decent CBs in this window & I’d give the Dutch lad at Celtic (Maybe cost £4M) a go. Surely Krul, Janmaat,Anita & De Jong could have a word. & perhaps we bring Mbiwa back from Roma till end of season. Can’t risk selling Sissoko & Cisse without replacements

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:19 AM

    Comment #23

    West lancs

    Taylor is the best CB we have in my opinion, he hasn’t played over 14 games for 6 years. We can’t rely on him.

    We need to sign 2 quality centre backs, taylor and dummet are fine as back up.

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  • expatmag

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:22 AM

    Comment #24

    Luke at 13

    Your assessment in this post is the perfect analysis of a non sporting club, something we has become increasingly evident over the tenure of this total non entity of an owner.

    TS

    You would like to think 10 points would keep us safe but this season is gradually becoming a mirror image of 2008 when people said we were too good to go down. We lacked leadership and motivation then and I can see it happening again. In my opinion, there aren’t too many winnable games left with the obvious defensive failures, lack of goalscorers and clear lack of management leadership and communication at all levels.

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  • West Lancs Geordie

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:23 AM

    Comment #25

    Agree totally with comments 17 & 18 & Sage you seem to know Niang’s temperment better than me but can’t understand Santon situation > He has been fit for some weeks now but never risked. I thought he may have started if not come on today but Haidara justified his selection

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:25 AM

    Comment #26

    Expat

    True, but still think we will be fine. Today we were best by a defensive error and a deflection. We had a clear cut penalty turned down and missed 2 obvious sitters from free headers.

    Southampton are a good side so it think of things had gone a bit differently we could have won. Surely we can get points.

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  • lukes26

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:26 AM

    Comment #27

    Transfer

    My whole point is that this season is somewhat of a lost cause. The organization has time to do their due diligence in appointing a manager. I don’t think it’s shameful at all. I just hope he’s fully delegated the decision to Charnley

    Im bothered that Ashley is naive about Newcastle, when he’s been successful at other businesses. Im not angry though, he seems like a nice guy.

    Munster – yes i think we’ll finish well above burnley.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:26 AM

    Comment #28

    West lancs

    Just going off the reports in Italy and some trouble he’s been in with the police. It’s very poor.

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  • expatmag

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:27 AM

    Comment #29

    West Lancs

    Van Dijk from Celtic would cost at least double that figure and probably more plus the likes of Arsenal and Man Utd are interested in him. We will be lucky to get some French kid from the lower leagues for a million quid. That’s the best we can expect.

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  • West Lancs Geordie

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:28 AM

    Comment #30

    Expat – that’s my concern. This gung ho attitude that we are too good to go down. Points slip away like as against Burnley & today & if teams below start picking up points and closing the gap both the team & the crowd start getting edgy & suddenly losing becomes the norm. Sorry to say Expat is right it is starting to mirror 2008

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:28 AM

    Comment #31

    Luke’s

    But my point is that they should already have had an idea of the manager. They should have had plans for the situation, anything can change a manager, new job, ill health, etc

    And surely it can’t take that long to know who you want when you have scouts and others aware of managers. Just get who you want signed up, other clubs don’t do this nonsense.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:30 AM

    Comment #32

    Expat

    Should look at Ron Vlaar. Sure carr also has plenty of defenders on his lists

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  • beermonkey

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:31 AM

    Comment #33

    mister tuff

    if Ashley was seeking a buy for the club there would have been a rumour something but its all quiet on that front

    I think he might have made his final play with rangers he is banking on getting his hand on the land he has attached his loans to
    he can then sit it out and wait for his big pay day whilst riping them off for all there merchandise
    asset strip all excess land not needed

    and all for bugger all

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  • beermonkey

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:31 AM

    Comment #34

    buy = buyer

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  • West Lancs Geordie

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:34 AM

    Comment #35

    OK expat it was just a suggestion but I don’t think Lascelles from Notts F is the answer he only just started getting in the team through injuries & has not been the best when he’s played. Forest have been on TV a number of times recently. Darlow on the other hand could be a class act. If the clause fixed for the season had not been agreed perhaps talk of relegation would have been a thing of the past by now.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:34 AM

    Comment #36

    When are the lads leaving for Dubai?

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:36 AM

    Comment #37

    luke – WHAT Tubbs seems like a nice bloke. F*** me gently.
    He uses sweatshops in Thailand to make his tat = £1 for a 12 hour day -workers locked in unsafe buildings. Yeh nice bloke.

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  • lukes26

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:36 AM

    Comment #38

    Transfer

    I can assure you they had a list. Pardew was on the hot seat for quite a long time

    But they’re not going to interview while Pardew is manager.

    You do have to interview job applicants…usually 3-4 times if you’re hiring an executive.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:36 AM

    Comment #39

    Jesper

    No idea, but they don’t even deserve a day out to Tynemouth in my eyes.

    Any way lads and lasses, that’s me done for the night. Nice chat.

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  • expatmag

    Jan 18, 2015 at 12:36 AM

    Comment #40

    TS

    We were not unlucky today at all. We lost because we can’t score goals and we cannot defend against quick attackers. If there was any luck in the game, it was goal credited to Gouffran.

    Last night, I watched an Asian Cup match between Australia and South Korea which the latter won 1-0 through a school boyish defensive error. Australia had 70% possession, several one on ones with the keeper, three times more shots on target and yet still lost a game they dominated. It wasn’t bad luck that they lost. It was a combination of atrocious defending and loose finishing. Add to that the exceptionally well organised Korean defence and the Australian coach, Postecoglou, gave credit where due and admonishment against his own team.

    Newcastle maybe should have had a penalty but our goal was indeed fortunate.

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