Uncertainty Growing – Newcastle Statement Needed


There has been very little news on where Newcastle are in their search for a new head coach, after Alan Pardew officially left the club on January 3rd, and while there has been news in the press about who Newcastle may be interested in, we really don’t know too much.

lee charnley and mike ashley

Lee Charnley and Mike Ashley

That’s true for both the fans and the players, and former striker Peter Lovenkrands in the Chronicle today says that players never like periods like this, when things are in limbo, and want to know what’s happening.

Under Mike Ashley Newcastle have never bothered to communicate much with their fans, who they seem to take for granted, but fans (and players)  deserve to at least have an update from Managing Director Lee Charnley on what’s going on with the search for a new head coach.

The top three candidates in the voting at the moment are Remi Garde at 6-4, John Carver at 2-1 and Steve McClaren at 5-1.

The caretaker manager John Carver said on Thursday in his press conference for the game against Southampton today,  that things were well under way and that he would be speaking to Lee Charnley after the game today.

Presumably John will then know better what his own position is, before he takes the first team squad to Dubai for a winter beak.

Newcastle may not have things fully worked out yet, but surely they can give the fans a basic update without giving too much away.

We know the position is for a head coach because Newcastle are using the continental type system, where the manager is not fully responsible for who leaves and who comes in during transfer windows.

But Lee could tell us some basic things – will a coach be announced in the next few weeks or will the club wait until the summer?

If the club waits until the summer will John Carver be the one who will be head coach until then?

With any business, communication is important, even though Newcastle don’t seem to think that way.

Without communication there grows mistrust and even anger, and that’s one reason Mike Ashley and the powers that be at the club don’t have a good relationship with the fans – they simply don’t communicate enough.

We have no idea what Mike Ashley is thinking or what his real ambitions are for Newcastle United, and when there’s a communication vacuum, people make up their own minds on things and they tend to be on the negative side.

There can be little harm and a lot of good if Managing Director Lee Charnley will issue a short statement on what’s going on in the search for a new head coach, and what progress has been made so far and what the expected time-frame is.

Maybe that statement can be made after the game (win?) against the Saints today?

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147 comments so far

  • sparky55

    Jan 17, 2015 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #1

    from previous thread…

    Gerard

    Class act…brilliant!

    Unfortunately carvers linguistic skills are not the best so he will need a translator to help him work it out and cos there’s enough fcuk’s in there he’s gonna struggle anyway

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  • Average_Contents

    Jan 17, 2015 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #2

    JDubai’s disturbing vision with a bit of Bonny thrown in for good measure. How romantic. Vom.

    Turn around bright eyes, every now and then I fall apart.

    Classic lol.

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  • stuart no9

    Jan 17, 2015 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #3

    stuart no9 // Jan 17, 2015 at 9:29 AM

    does anyone think we should be setting our own protests up now ? good time to do it , ashley will have it on both fronts and will let the country know that no one wants him . People have slated us fans for being inpatient and ashley has done this and that for the club , so for rangers to kick off like that BEFORE he has even been measured up for his kilt, just shows the nation we have been amazingly patient with the fat one and is now time to follow rangers and protest.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 17, 2015 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #4

    Jimmy,
    From the early hours of this morning.
    After Cabaye etc were signed that summer there was a renewed optomism that maybe Ashleys way was the way forward, after it became so obviously clear that he had no abmition people were clinging on to what you’ve just said. ‘The next window will show his intent’, it became embarrassing to anyone saying it and it stopped, even bills stopped posting. What has Mike Ashley got to do to make you realise that success is not part of the plan, if he got a big wet trout and slapped it round your face while he told you so, would you still not believe it. He has had ample opportunities to make us think that he wants to achieve something, deliberately and callously throwing an FA cup run is not part of a bigger blueprint for success. You mention cheap tickets, do you honestly think that he has set out to provide cheap tickets, he simply has to, otherwise people would stop going intheir droves if Stoke at home was £46, as I said before, games in demand aren’t reduced in line with Mikeys genorous side. The acedemy is being built for his benefit, they can’t even get that right, the most promising young talent since Carroll and his contracts up this season. He’s in it for himself Jimmy without even a hint of giving us something back.

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  • stuart no9

    Jan 17, 2015 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #5

    Sorry lads but i can see a drubbing today simply coz the lads just wont be up for it . I say that because there are so many things going on – unsettling things that need sorted . Our players jusyt will not fancy it today against a good soton .
    They are also all packed up for their jollies after the game . i know what im like at work before i go on holiday and i bet everyone on here is the same ,so, expect little commitment today guys 1-3 is possible today.

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  • cyprus

    Jan 17, 2015 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #6

    Why is a statement needed? Carver said they told him he had the games till Southampton. It would be wrong to disrupt preparation and him by making statements for us impatient fans.

    The man is on trial, under serious pressure facing two of the top 4. A bit unfair, but that’s life. If he beats Southampton he gets the job.

    On the preemptive protests, just in case MA does something wrong. That doesn’t make sense man.

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  • JAMSHA(CARVER SLAYER)

    Jan 17, 2015 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #7

    Newcastle have failed in a £4m bid for Ipswich
    right-back Tyrone Mings.

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  • stuart no9

    Jan 17, 2015 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #8

    cyprus — if he dosnt beat southampton he gets the job .

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  • hibbit

    Jan 17, 2015 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #9

    stuart the new boss could be in the stand ??????

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Jan 17, 2015 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #10

    The thing is that there has been ample opportunity to make a visual statement at marches and leaving early amongst other things which have already gone in. These could have been built on. Some have, others just watched on. Being pro-active is in the doing, not the watching.

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  • stuart no9

    Jan 17, 2015 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #11

    hibbit — any ideas ??

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  • jimmysmith

    Jan 17, 2015 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #12

    Jail, the one thing that appears certain is that Ashley will not put any more of his own money in, unless he has to. I accept that. I don’t accept though that he won’t put the profits back in, and I don’t see why that has to be the case, and even if he did, I wouldn’t argue it would be enough to make us a top six force. I just don’t know how anyone can be emphatic about what he’s going to do and expect others to buy it, especially as he does appear to take all the time he has before he commits himself, which may be a lesson he learned from buying us in the first place. I’m more pessimist than optimist, but I’m prepared to wait and see.

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  • stuart no9

    Jan 17, 2015 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #13

    Laurent——- Rangers dont do protests , it takes too long to organise and you have to inform authorities – so , just break in and get on with it , no pussy footing around with those lads — great stuff.

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  • spitfire_

    Jan 17, 2015 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #14

    Uncertainty Growing – Newcastle Statement Needed?

    Those who like to be lied need a statement from Newcastle. I don’t.

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  • beermonkey

    Jan 17, 2015 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #15

    jail

    do you not find it odd that players like Sammy and Aarons have not been given new deals and there not the only deals to run out this season
    next season there is another 5 or 6 first teamers out of contract

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 17, 2015 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #16

    For those asking about ticket revenue it was 27mil a couple years ago, since then they’ve added a £1 booking fee per ticket and prices have risen by £2 a ticket on all tickets except the £15 family area.

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/newcastle-united-report-profits-99m-6745145

    So we can have an effect as fans.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Jan 17, 2015 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #17

    For those who don’t want carver as head coach, are you hoping that newcastle lose today, not that it would make any difference.

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  • hibbit

    Jan 17, 2015 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #18

    sorry stuart none but if this is cavers last game then we have a 2 week brake……….. if a new coach is to take over it would be a good opportunity to see the team play

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  • JAMSHA(CARVER SLAYER)

    Jan 17, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #19

    yes,i hope we loose 😛 so the board are under pressure to buy players n managr

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  • John Tudor

    Jan 17, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #20

    lets get shot of this twasted

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  • ToonMatt

    Jan 17, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #21

    No statement is needed, most of us know what Ashley is doing with the club and if 52,000 turn up tonight to show their approval then this will go on even longer.

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  • davetoon

    Jan 17, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #22

    At least media opinion is turning against him. It used to be those daft geordies dont appreciate all that Ashleys done for them. Now it is the fans dont like the owner because he wont buy players and always sells the best players and has no ambition.

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  • Obertan's better than Messi

    Jan 17, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #23

    Wave white tissues/hankies at Ashley.
    No swearing or chanting. Boos optional.

    Easy, disposable, very visual for the cameras.
    Can’t be prevented.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Jan 17, 2015 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #24

    After the sale of Bony — Swansea don`t need money they need a happy striker — would you swap Cisse for Gomis?

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  • stuart no9

    Jan 17, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #25

    welsh———– yes . not for carver , but it will give the fans more ammo to get fatty out . whats wrong with that?

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  • JamesToon

    Jan 17, 2015 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #26

    My team against southampton:

    Krul
    Janmaat-Coloccini-Dummett-Haidara
    Sissoko-Colback
    Santon-Cabella-Ameobi
    Perez

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  • catchy in norway

    Jan 17, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #27

    everything is wrong with our club

    owner , to much to list,

    LC , the guy is a mouse , not a word heard out of the guy , which is very strange for a guy in his position,
    I work for a global company and we have what’s called a town hall meeting once a month, the chief exec just gave a presentation on the state of the oil industry and what it means to us as a company , what they are doing to move the company forward in these tough times,

    I’m not saying he tells us everything , but at least he is telling us things ,

    manager or lack of a one ,

    I hope for the sake of our club carvers name is in there as a carrot to make JC think he is in with a shout , and that the club are seriously not thinking if hiring him, but I have this sneaky feeling the club are waiting for the first good result to announce JC as the new head coach.

    sorry but I have no trust at any level at our club

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  • lesh

    Jan 17, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #28

    One wouldn’t realistically expect an update other than something to the effect that the club are considering applicants. That’s the way it should be.

    If they are undertaking due diligence (recruiters call it background checking and research!), one would hope they realise that there is a big risk that the preferred candidate (if it’s not Carver) may turn down an offer. And then they’ll have pi$$ed about for six weeks or so to then appoint Carver!

    But, the question is whether they really are endeavouring to recruit a good and experienced Head Coach who will take us forward. That is where the suspicion and cynicism comes in – simply, fans and observers don’t trust Ashley to do anything other than count the pennies.

    Must say, the idea of the white hankies demo sounds good – it’ll have a big impact if the cameras pick it up.

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  • headtheball

    Jan 17, 2015 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #29

    There are non so blind as those who will not see or understanding cannot be forced on someone who chooses to remain unenlightened.
    I’m enlightened
    Ashley kindly leave NUFC and buy a Palace.
    I can recommend one with a manager who worships you and would dedicate wins to you.
    Be Alert
    The club needs lerts
    HWTL

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 17, 2015 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #30

    Beer,
    I don’t find it odd as in a case of a deeper conspiracy, I just think it’s an oversight because there are too few people employed in correct positions, Aarons is offered a certain amount and if he doesn’t accept it, due to his age they can’t think outside of the box. The computer says no.

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  • nufc_eire

    Jan 17, 2015 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #31

    If we do end up selling Sissoko and Cisse for around the 25m mark combined, I’d love to see us take punts on Pato, Adriano from shaktar and M’Vila.

    If we get a good manager in then we’d have two young stars who have lost their way in Pato and MVila for fairly cheap deals. Both are talked about in the papers as available for potential loan deals with the option to buy and Adriano is available on a bosman. Even if only one of the lads impresses i’d be well worth it and himself will have pocked a tidy profit. We could still buy a good CB for around the 8m mark (Van Dijk, Reid, Caulker at the end of the season) and be quids in.
    Sounds like a deal that ashley would take

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 17, 2015 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #32

    White hankies are associated with surrender.

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  • WWSBRD

    Jan 17, 2015 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #33

    M’vila theres a name I’ve not heard in awhile. He was cracking in football manager, in Russia isn’t he?

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 17, 2015 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #34

    Wwsbrd

    He certainly is in Russia. For me that screams don’t buy him. If he’s gone there he clearly isn’t serious about reaching his footballing potential.

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  • nufc_eire

    Jan 17, 2015 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #35

    Yeah M’Vila is at Ruban Kazan. Belhanda is another one whos in the ukraine making no headlines for years.

    I’d completely forgotten about him until looking for anyone we were linked with on GFN France and his name popped up because his loan to Inter ended due to FFP (or thats what theyre claiming) and that QPR and Arsenal could be in for him and Ruben are happy enough to get rid.

    Obviously not a great sign to buy a player but hes definitely got the talent so a good manager could get him back to where he was

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  • toon kk

    Jan 17, 2015 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #36

    Nufc eire
    if Sissoko and Cisse were sold for £25 mil or x amount it would sit nicely in MA account, you know how the regime works. Maybe a couple of kids will replace them in the summer.
    As for a Coach I’ll be surprised if Carver doesn’t get the job.

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  • jayphoto

    Jan 17, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #37

    @catchy – agree with that! Im certain the club will announce him the moment he gets a win. Failing that theyll announce him after the game tonight as we don’t have another home game for weeks.
    The propaganda is already starting – krul and janmaat saying the players want him, him addressing that southampton incident and today saying hes going to get the best from cabella. Reckon there was never even another candidate

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  • nufc_eire

    Jan 17, 2015 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #38

    Also I think it might be a decent idea to offer Hatem the chance to train here and play in the under 21s to keep up his fitness. On the 1% chance he gets super fit and contrite enough to play for us again it would be worth it. With virtually no risk since we’re not paying him and if annoys the senior lads just get rid again

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  • toon kk

    Jan 17, 2015 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #39

    Rangers fans are certainly protesting this morning. Newcastle fans take whatever Mash throws at them these days.

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  • John Tudor

    Jan 17, 2015 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #40

    instead of white hankies

    make them sanitary towels or incontinence pads

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