Here’s The Proof On Carver – Fans Don’t Want Him To Take Over


There is not much support for John Carver either becoming the former manager or even for John to remain caretaker coach through the end of the season.

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John Carver and Jose Mourinho
Even friendship with the special one shouldn’t get him the job

And that view will only be solidified by our third defeat in the four games John has been in charge and we’ve yet to win since John Carver became caretaker coach.

Oliver Bernard knows all about France football and recently in the Chronicle he said he thought Remi Garde would be the perfect coach for Newcastle, but it seems none of Newcastle targets are available or want to join Newcastle in mid-season – according to the Sunday People.

Olivier thinks John is capable of handling the team until the end of the season, and he said to talkSPORT before yesterdays’ game:

“Right now it’s very difficult for a new manager to come in and change things round at Newcastle. The club may want keep John Carver until the end of the season.”

“I don’t see any harm in that. John is capable of taking the team on. He knows the players and will do a good job.”

“In the summer it’s a different story though. They’ll have a bit more time to get a better manager.” There are a lot of fantastic managers about. John is amongst the good coaches but has never been given a role as a manager.”

“At the minute John should get it but, if Jose Mourinho was suddenly available, then they should give it to him.” “What I mean is, if you have a ‘big-name’ coming in to Newcastle then of course, you would prefer that.”

Of course there’s no way Jose Mourinho would come anywhere near Newcastle these days, but it was meant in jest by the former left-back.

When we started this blog back in April 2007, we had an article out around that time-frame on why Jose Mourinho would be perfect for Newcastle – but it tells you how far we’ve fallen under Mike Ashley in the last eight years – when that’s now a joke.

Here ls the poll we started on January 2nd.

Should John Carver Be The Head Coach At Newcastle?

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And here’s the poll we started on January 13th.

Do You Want John Carver To Take Over Newcastle Through End Of The Season?

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So if Lee Charnley decides to appoint John Carver as the head coach, or even as the caretaker manager through the end of the season, it will not be a popular choice among Newcastle fans.

And where are the side going now – to Dubai – that doesn’t seem right somehow – it’s not appropriate given our current situation.

What do you think?

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145 comments so far

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 18, 2015 at 8:45 AM

    Comment #1

    We need to stop kidding us selves and that goes for x-football players ad well.

    …If Carver gets the job now he will keep it unless he relegate us. The scenario Bernard is talking about is not going to happen.

    So lets get this sorted now! Mr. Fatty Tubbs and Penfold make a decision and stop screwing with this club.

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  • Pottz

    Jan 18, 2015 at 8:46 AM

    Comment #2

    The place is a total shambles.

    I can’t believe Carver is a possibility till the end of the season!

    Surely a new Head Coach coming in at this point gives him the rest of the season to get his feet under the table and assess the squad in prep for next season.

    I understand it’s Ashley we are dealing with, just offer the candidates some of the Palace money as a sweetener to start the job before summer.

    Carver, Stone, Beardsley and Woodman till the end of the season is criminal.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jan 18, 2015 at 8:52 AM

    Comment #3

    Still think the fate of the club is on the “back burner” until issues are resolved at Rangers. SFA hearing is only 9 days away.

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Jan 18, 2015 at 8:59 AM

    Comment #4

    I would give Carver the job – because there is no-one else who would take – sorry has-been managers like Jewell, Curbishley, McCleish, Owen Coyle.

    Did anyone else get grief from the stewards yesterday I was warned about my language – lost it with the linesman

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  • croftus5678

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:01 AM

    Comment #5

    colo imo should be defensive midfield as his vision and reading of the game is great and his passing is prob the best in our team.

    his days as a defender are very numbered imo but tbh who do we have who can replace him ?

    dummett i thought had a really good game yesterday but we need a solid woodgate type even if it costs 20mil we need it sorting once and for all ! 5 shots 2 goals is not good and before that game 2 shots 2 goals with 3 errors from the defence to give them those goals.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:04 AM

    Comment #6

    So many parallels to the relegation season it’s frightening. Manager walks out, out of depth assistant takes over, relegation looks a possibility, old washed out has been brought in……..

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  • beermonkey

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:04 AM

    Comment #7

    new manager should have been in place before we jet of for Dubai logic tells us this

    Charlie at the gallowgate

    you were told of for swearing at a football match
    I think I have heard it all now

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  • WWSBRD

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:06 AM

    Comment #8

    I don’t think we will get relegated, we will do enough to stay in the league. Plenty of players to come back and we will scrap by as usual regardless of manager then come summer we will start the while thing over again

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:06 AM

    Comment #9

    Two defensive errors yesterday and no confidence in anybody to put the ball away, issues that have been with us since we were promoted and since Loic Remy left, will we address tge situation, what do you think.

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  • WWSBRD

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #10

    JfA
    Our CB options are the same we had in the championship no great shock they sometimes play like that

    Colo is not what he once was, Willo is what he is and Taylor is essentially part of the medical team at this point but I like Dummitt there must admit he’s got a future there imo

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  • John Tudor

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #11

    i saw no scrapping to try and win
    no new ideas plans commitment=relegation

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  • lee-toon

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:15 AM

    Comment #12

    I think Ashley and the board are just stringing us along and doing exactly what Gary linekar and 99% of toon fans think. Which is pretending they’re concentrating on appointing a new manager/head coach and only after they’re appointed will they start to strengthen our paper thin slightly above relegation standard squad. So what’ll happen is it’ll take until the 2nd last day of the transfer window to inform us that Carver will continue to be caretaker manager until the summer and they will lie to us again and say they will be frantically trying to get someone in the player department over the line by 11 or 12 on deadline day! They will then come out on the 3rd of February and announce “we couldn’t strengthen our squad without a head coach being appointed” even though everyone with even the smallest amount of Newcastle utd knowledge knows that the head coach at Newcastle utd has no say in which players are signed even if the f**Ker’s are in the clubs age and budget parameters!

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  • beermonkey

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #13

    jail

    the issues wont get sorted, and to be fair to pards he knows the truth with tranfers,
    we know were short cb and striker but its going to get worse
    end of this season as it stands were going to lose raylor Sammy chucky, but the end of next season its colo willo saylor santon abeid obertan Elliot

    ok some of those we know who need moving on and improving on but do you have any faith the club will a bring in the quality needed

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #14

    I don’t think Carver will relegate us and hr will definitely be a better choice than those Charlie mentioned…

    …just don’t count on getting an upgrade in the summer

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  • JDdubai

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:26 AM

    Comment #15

    Im working for an Emirati who owns some hotels amongst other companies out here, trying to find out where the team are staying this week to have a looksy…

    .cant understand why they didnt agree a gentle friendly against a local team here to build the brand and maybe advertise the club to a potential buyer, seems like an obvious thing to arrange while here.

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #16

    jesper
    My worry is if we do not take Carver we will get some numpty ie the ones I mentioned.
    Beermonkey
    My seat is in the middle of the Gallowgate End – absolute joke. Mind you I was not the only one threatened with getting ‘howd oot’ yesterday

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #17

    JD…people don’t work on their vacation mate 😉

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #18

    jesper,
    Blackpool got relegated with more points than us at this stage a few years ago, the team, or it’s spina has shown it is capable of total collapse, Carver has had four games now and it doesn’t look like we’ve got goals in us, I think it is premature to say Carver won’t get us relegated. For all those who refused to recognize that Mashley had any part the last time we nearly got relegated:
    Alan Pardew wasn’t here when we last got relegated.
    Alan Pardew won’t be here if we get relegated this season.
    There is one common factor in all three.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #19

    Charlie,
    What was the atmosphere like yesterday, crowd feelings etc

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  • JDdubai

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #20

    And this time the transfer window will have gone before he panic buys 5 frenchmen to save us.

    Having said that, even with our powderpuff attack and leaky defence, I cant believe that we wont finish ahead of at least 3 of the teams at the bottom. There’s some real crap down there, think that is what will save us, same as last time.

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  • beermonkey

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #21

    JDdubai

    cos that would benefit the club not sports direct

    when you look to when we had cabeye we had a good few French internationals at the club a preseason tour over in france would have been a great way to boost our brand over there and ease relations with some of the clubs we had annoyed
    were viewed so poor over there now ( our own fault) that when a paper links us to a manager we are labelled thieves

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #22

    Jail…my worry is they will appoint a numpy and sell either Sissoko or Cisse – then we can talk about relegation.

    …keeping Carver I think is like keeping Pardew (he wouldn’t have relegated us this season)

    I know there are no guarantees…just my take on it.

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  • musomag

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #23

    Mourinho’s expression in that picture says it all….he’d absolutely LOVE Carver to get the job. Obviously for all the wrong reasons.

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  • JAMSHA(CARVER SLAYER)

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #24

    Goin to dubai is another excuse of not getn any players or a manager in…

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #25

    Jail
    Crowd were behind the team – atmosphere good – no agro towards Carver or Ashley.
    The boos at the end were against the referee for not giving a penalty and the play acting of the Soothy players being injured when we were in the box seat.
    Note our first free kick was awarded midway through the second half

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  • Marty-Toon

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #26

    Dubai
    Yeah you’d think that they would’ve set up a couple of kick arounds out there but then Again nothing this group of leaders do is very rational.
    Sat yesterday at half time and after the game discussing with a mate about the Ashley ownership/profit making /little interested situation.
    We just can’t undertsand what he’s really doing here,he’s not putting the money back into the club,he can’t be having fun watching that football so it’s not footballing or being a fan reasons,it can’t just be for sports direct as it’d be better for his stores if we were in Europe ,so I just don’t understand why it’d be worth holding onto for all the grief.
    Of course many will say the obvious and that’s the PL money every season but the controversy that’s around the club all the time.
    Worst of all is that the fans continue to show up game after game with the hope that things will change.
    Seriously folks,we’ve seen the side of Ashley that we will always see.
    Nothing’s changed and nothing will.
    It’s dePressing to expect something on a Saturday only to watch the same dross every time.
    No strengthening of the squad 3 weeks into the window,no manager in place and a seriously depleted squad.

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  • lee-toon

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #27

    Newcastle’s Poor Run Could Bring Some Very Good News
    January 18, 2015
    Written by Dr. Ed Harrison
    Maybe one of the good things that will come out our poor league form of late – for the second time this season we’ve picked up only 4 points in our last seven games – is that Mike Ashley will be less inclined to sell either Papiss Cisse or Moussa Sissoko this month – because we are not yet safe from relegation, and could still be sucked into a fight for survival.

    John Carver Southampton+hbOzBdgW6fzl

    John Carver – during yesterday’s defeat – our third in last four games

    All it takes is to keep losing games, and we’ve lost five of our last seven league games, and we have no head coach.

    If you believe the Sunday People today – none will arrive until the summer.

    We have 27 points from our first 22 games, and still need around 13 points from the remaining games to be safe.

    In our relegation season seven years ago at this point in the season (my arm just started to ache again), we were four points worse off on 23 points.

    Last season we had just beaten West Ham 3-1 with two goals from Yohan Cabaye in his very last game for Newcastle before we sold him to PSG, and we had 36 points after 22 games.

    If we had 36 points today we’d be 6th top of the league.

    But as we know in the final 10 games of the season, after Alan Pardew was suspended after the 3-1 win at Hull, we picked up only two wins and lost eight – that’s 6 points from the 30 played for. 🙁

    So let’s hope we don’t go on such a run this year – because with 9 points less than we had last season at this point, we could still be dragged into another relegation battle.

    Remember that anything can happen in the Premier League and anything can happen at Newcastle – which we are only too well aware of.

    In fact our poor form of late could even make Mike Ashley bring in some replacements in this transfer window – like a striker and a center-back?

    No – that’s not going to happen – we’re getting carried away again. 😀

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    lee-toon
    January 18, 2015
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    I can’t take our club being run like this anymore! I watch every Newcastle game thats broadcast online (i wont line ashleys pockets anymore!) and I have supported my club since i can remember back to. This whole letting Pardew leave and not immediately replacing him in order to make the excuse of being too wrapped up in getting a new head coach to concentrate on strengthening our just above poor squad is the penultimate straw! Newcastle utd is now starting to drop down the premier league and with not many more obviously winnable games left! I can’t watch us in the championship again! I hope the board and Ashley prove us all wrong and get a good new head coach and some more descent players in because if we are relegated I’m not going to bother with the toon until Ashley is gone! Been a fan for 30 years and it’s killing me now to put up with being repeatedly mugged off by Ashley and his board that its come to this unheard ultimatum

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  • hibbit

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #28

    i think the problem is no one will take the job on the terms offered poor wage no new players a top player sold why would any one want a job a with so many restrictions to start with

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  • Go toon gooooo

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #29

    Carver still pretty enough borrows Pardew’s head for managing the team.

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  • Goofy

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #30

    I didn’t think we were as bad as everybody was saying.

    We had 15 shots at goal, 57% possession, 8 corners, had Southampton stuck in there own half for the majority of the game, I mean Southampton are 3rd in league through merit and only really had 1 defensive midfielder (Collback) as Sissoko spent most of the game attacking. Okay I was pissed so if my perception was off, shoot mt now.

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  • JAMSHA(CARVER SLAYER)

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #31

    New Crystal Palace boss Alan Pardew wants to
    take his former Newcastle striker Papiss Cisse
    to Selhurst Park.

    PLZZZZ take anita, willo and alwick with u

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  • Goofy

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #32

    Why the Anita haters? He probably has the best vision out of all our players, gets stuck in tackling, does quick 1 2 passing and is a good RB when needed.

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  • hibbit

    Jan 18, 2015 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #33

    jamsha …… anlwick is gone no new contract

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  • expatmag

    Jan 18, 2015 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #34

    I dont see us selling either Cisse or Sissoko to be honest. Mind you, it wont be from the point of trying but more to do with noone matching Ashleys valuation of either player.

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  • John Tudor

    Jan 18, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #35

    i wont be surprised if Krul Tiote Sissoko and more are not onto their respective agents
    im a celebrity GET ME OUTTA HERE

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  • Ron Knee

    Jan 18, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #36

    Jail
    Presumably, Charnley & co are gambling that SDJ, Aarons & Cissé will get us some goals when they finally come back. I can’t see any (decent) signings in this window.

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  • JAMSHA(CARVER SLAYER)

    Jan 18, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #37

    Goofy

    anita isnt good enough for us…he should move on…, he could do good playng for other clubs…oh an im not hateing him… its jst i dnt think his good for us

    on gufo he should be played as a striker… not a winger with defendn duties…. no wonder our defenders cnt defend .

    we need 2 class cb one LW an A Striker like aguero an cabaye mix

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  • expatmag

    Jan 18, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #38

    Ron

    Of course he is. What more do you expect from the greedy teat

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  • JAMSHA(CARVER SLAYER)

    Jan 18, 2015 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #39

    hibbit

    still has 6 months guess

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  • expatmag

    Jan 18, 2015 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #40

    Jamsha

    What we need and what we get are two separate entities guaranteed to disappoint.

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