New Odds-On Favorite At Newcastle And It’s Not Garde


Last Saturday morning my son Neil told me that he thought that John Carver would be given the job as caretaker manager through the end of the season and then Newcastle would appoint his as the new head coach in the summer.

john carver smiling

John Carver – now odds-on favorite

I hope that’s not true but it does look like John Carver will get the opportunity to coach the side for the remaining 16 games of the season and then if he does as well as Glenn Roeder did when he was caretaker manager back in 2006 – he would be appointed as the new head coach.

Glenn did great when he took over form the fired Graeme Souness and we finished in 7th place and qualified for Europe when over the lats 15 games of the season he won nine, and drew two for 29 points out of the last 15 games.

Glenn started by winning the first five of six games in all competitions and finished by winning six of the last seven league games and drawing the other one.

Newcastle were in 15th place with 26 points from 23 games played (that’s very similar to our record today of 27 points from 22 games and a goal difference of  -9), when Graeme was fired after losing 3-0 at Manchester City and at that time we had a goal difference of  -8.

At the end of the season we were in 7th place with 58 points and a goal difference of +5.

It was impossible for Chairman Freddy Shepherd to do anything other than give Glenn the job permanently, because the players also wanted him as the manager.

But Glenn was fired a year later when we finished in a disappointing 13th position in the Premier League with 43 points and a goal difference of -9.

And then Mike Ashley bought the club.

So it’s an opportunity for John Carver to make a claim to the head coach position at Newcastle – but he hasn’t made as good a start as Glenn did – that’s for sure.

But John is now odds-on favorite to get the head coach position at Newcastle – here’s the latest betting on SkyBet.

John Carver 4/6
Remi Garde 5/2
STeve McClaren 7/2
Michael Laudrup 5/1
Tim Sherwood 16/1

John Carver is odds-on favorite for the first time, and it’s interesting to us that Lee Charnley last night in the Chronicle said that it was important that the three in charge at Newcastle – Lee, Graham Carr and the head coach got on with each other, and communicated well.

It would be a major underwhelming appointment, if indeed John Carver gets the head coach position at Newcastle in the summer.

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38 comments so far

  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:02 PM

    Comment #1

    Insanity. Carver’s record anywhere he’s been in management is shocking.

    This cost cutting on not allowing a decent coach to come in with his own staff, while continuing with Carver and his stooges could blow up in Ash and Charnley’s face spectacularly.

    At a normal club you could maybe buy the fact they are doing due diligence on the next head coach, but here why don’t I believe it.

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  • Thump

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:06 PM

    Comment #2

    Oh good, now we get to hear how much of a Geordie John Carver is.

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  • BoyDoneGood

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:06 PM

    Comment #3

    Oh hell. GS was more of a thinker. Maybe we should have been finishing… 9th? Now we finish… 14th? At the supposed difference of around £2M per place (does anybody here know exactly how that works) that’s minus £6.5M after subtracting AP’s unspent compo. Ashley’s advisers must have a higher opinion of JC’s prowess than I do.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:06 PM

    Comment #4

    Of course Carver is odds on after that statement from Penfold!

    …what’s the odds by the way? I think I have a £100 burning in my pocket 😉

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  • Reyantoon

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:08 PM

    Comment #5

    First thing first,we have to finish the remaining season securely.I will be happy if we finish b/n 10-17.
    Then we can think about the likes of Galtier, Tuchel etc etc
    Our season is still scary under JC.Hope he starts winning sooner than later.
    Galtier is perfect.Since we have a lot of french players and since the future recruitment is also from France, the man suits our strategy perfectly.
    I bet he will not stay with st.Etienne next season.He will go to bigger clubs like Milan,Monaco,or even Dortmund.we have to tie him now than in summer.
    Looks like we will now our next head coach by January 31.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:08 PM

    Comment #6

    4/6 what was that again in decimal?

    TS…are you there 🙂

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  • hibbit

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:09 PM

    Comment #7

    RE POST a lot on here will be happy if carver fails but if a new coach joined tonight he would have the same problems carver has no goal scorer in the squad no leader on the pitch and very poor cb to pick from

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:11 PM

    Comment #8

    hobbit…I think most people dread the outlook of Carver taking over permanently

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  • BoyDoneGood

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:12 PM

    Comment #9

    Hibbit
    We have goal scorers, but they’re not scoring goals. New intelligent managerial approach needed.

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  • Edd Case

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #10

    If he’s odds-on now for the job, I think that’s a definite indication that Charnley / MA want or already have De Boer.

    You can read a lot into the comments Charnley made recently. He specifically mentions people that are not available until the end of the season.

    Carver can be seen as relatively cheap and low risk and ‘should’ keep us in the PL.

    If he is given the nod until the end of the season, in my opinion, that means only 1 thing, De Boer is ours.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #11

    Haha hobbit…sorry about that 😀 lol

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  • toon kk

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:14 PM

    Comment #12

    One thing everyone must remember, we badly lack striking options, as far as a goal scorer goes, down to a quality striker being too much money to mash to part with. So any future Coach will see this problem and could play defensive football, not that our defence is that strong either.

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  • hibbit

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:14 PM

    Comment #13

    resper……i agree but its looking more more possibly

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  • spitfire_

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #14

    At least the next 5 months will be hilarious.

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  • Oldgit1

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:16 PM

    Comment #15

    I’m coming into my late 60s and another season has gone by the time jan comes round. What the fcuk have I done to deserve another inept season. I’m sick and tired of the buffoons that run my club.

    I’m not too sure of Carr being the right man with players being brought into the club not being of a very good standard.

    Believe the club missed a trick by not having Kevin keegan on board as a DOF who could have scouted for some players, I cannot recall one bad buy that man made for our club whilst he was Manager can any of you lot.???

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  • hibbit

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:16 PM

    Comment #16

    boy done good….. mr charnley has just told you your not getting one

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  • nufconceandfuturekings

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:18 PM

    Comment #17

    This article is essentially about the odds on favourite for the odds on favorite. You get the gist. Saying that, yup, looking increasingly like JC. Give the bloke a go, I say. Stranger things, and all that…

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  • toon kk

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:19 PM

    Comment #18

    Boy
    you say we have goal scorers not scoring goals.
    doesn’t that mean we haven’t a goal scorer?

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  • beefman13

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:19 PM

    Comment #19

    Yes it looks like Carver until the endof season at least, why the hell did they not do this at the start of the month, they have led us on, does he deserve a chance, probably not on previous results, but they have there mind made up havnt they, may as well back the fella Carver, he cant do no worse surely than he has already done, we are due another nice little run before another dip no doubt, just like the inconsistant club we are in every way.

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  • robertsleftfoot

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:19 PM

    Comment #20

    Well at least my bet at William Hills isabout to come in, next permanent manager J.Carver at 33-1 (and the mint thing is that William Hills garuntee to pay out as long as someone is in charge for at least 10 games)

    It was always going to be Carver for god sake, he knows the dance and he probably will only get the same money he is on, its like one of us getting our gaffers job at work but staying on the same money for taking on the extra responsibility

    On the down side we are in serious shit if we are sticking with him for the rest of the season

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  • toon kk

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #21

    Oldgit
    have to agree but Mash wouldn’t pay for the quality KK picked.

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  • Reyantoon

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:24 PM

    Comment #22

    ha ha ha…

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  • beefman13

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:30 PM

    Comment #23

    Robertsleftfoot, yea the betting scenario is a strange on regarding next permanent manager/coach, i was wondering how the bookies would work it, i thought we might have promoted Pedro from the under 21`s just to freshen it up with maybe a few different ideas, of course Carver makes more sense as MA can yet again save some extra bit, by he loves that green stuff dosn`t he.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #24

    Eddcase

    That is taking optimism to the enth degree. Fair play to you though, if only….!

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  • JAMSHA(CARVER SLAYER)

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:35 PM

    Comment #25

    BOYCOTT EVERY HOME GAME

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:37 PM

    Comment #26

    RLF,
    He’ll probably be offered Pardews bonus if he manages tenth.

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  • hibbit

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:37 PM

    Comment #27

    beefman it would be better to promote the 2 young coaches that are working with the under 21’s there the one’s with the imput not pedro not a good coach but a great player

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:38 PM

    Comment #28

    old git

    kk had money to spend and an ambitious owner

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:40 PM

    Comment #29

    hibbit

    i was thinking exactly that today. instead of the 2nd rate deadbeats carver, stone and woodman, why not promote the 2 elite coaches. oh yeah because we’re nufc.

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  • Oldgit1

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:44 PM

    Comment #30

    @ toon kk there was only shearer who cost double figures. Think of fox, sellers, sir les, Ginola was only 2milliom.

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  • beefman13

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:44 PM

    Comment #31

    hibbit, the yongsters at the club have nothing but praise for Pedro, in fairness how do we know he isn’t a good coach, after all the under 21`s are doing very canny and play some lovely stuff.

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  • ArtyH

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:48 PM

    Comment #32

    Its clear from what Charnley has communicated to the Chronicle that the plan is going to be unacceptable to even the most staunch supporter. The plan is to maximise income and minimise expenditure while staying in the EPL. There will be no thrills or excitement generated by this bunch of clowns only humdrum mediocrity, for those who dont know what mediocrity is, its just what we have been drummed up for the last 5 years. Its time to make a stand against this regimen, get them out and get our team back. If no one takes a stance its the death of the club!

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  • hibbit

    Jan 21, 2015 at 4:58 PM

    Comment #33

    beefman pedro is a very poor coach the 2 elite coaches run the team peter is great at the pr very generous to grassroots clubs a great player a nice man but not a good coach why do you think he has not moved up…….i don’t know which kid’s you know at the club but he is not well thought of

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  • magfly

    Jan 21, 2015 at 5:10 PM

    Comment #34

    If this news is true MIKE ASHLEY kicks us in the NUTS again ouch.

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  • tynesidetommo

    Jan 21, 2015 at 5:23 PM

    Comment #35

    This is just so ridiculous and who in their right mind believes SkyBet is a true reflection of where the smart money is going? Honestly!

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  • jon.c

    Jan 21, 2015 at 5:30 PM

    Comment #36

    AP was hounded out by some morons you know who you are now we get CARVER what a disaster but please give him some support what ever happens be positive

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  • Ian Toon

    Jan 21, 2015 at 7:19 PM

    Comment #37

    Jon.c– Yes I agree. What utter rubbish fom the usual suspects. “And then this would have happened and then it would have turned out just as I predicted”. Be careful what you wish for came the still small voice!

    Instead of talking us through some convoluted alternative history, how about you admit that you were wrong. Keep chasing the popularity there’s comfort in a crowd or mob even if there’s no truth. Try understanding some different opinions.

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  • catchy in norway

    Jan 21, 2015 at 10:15 PM

    Comment #38

    gutted

    I wish the fans that went to the home games would grow some balls and stay away

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