Ronald De Boer – Newcastle Approached My Brother


It seems that 44 year-old Frank de Boer may still become the head coach at Newcastle in the summer, with news tonight that Newcastle have made an approach to the Ajax manager.

frank and ronald de boer

Frank and Ronald de Boer

Ronald is the twin brother of Frank, and he is currently the assistant manager of the Ajax Youth Academy.

Ronald  has been interviewed by Sky Sports News and this is what he said:

“They asked if you’re interested in maybe coming to Newcastle and Frank said ‘not at this moment’.” “He’s not discussing anything now, not even Newcastle. Even if a club comes, he’s not talking.”

That response from Frank to Newcastle is hardly surprising, since it’s almost exactly what he told Tottenham last April,  when they were looking for a new head coach, but appointed former Saints manager Mauricio Pochettino last summer.

Only yesterday Frank on Sky Sports was saying that he wouldn’t rule anything out in the summer, and that included possibly taking the head coach position at Newcastle, and if it means waiting until the summer to get Frank in – Newcastle would be short-sighted not to do that.

After a fantastic career as a footballer, Frank went into coaching with Ajax, where he had started his playing career.

In 2007, Frank began his coaching career with the Ajax and he was put in charge of the club’s Youth Academy, and got the head coach job in late 2010 when Martin Jol suddenty resigned.

Frank has won four successive Dutch Championships with Ajax, and that’s the first time that has ever been achieved.

We think Frank would be a terrific choice for Newcastle – if we can get him.

Who Do You Want As New Newcastle Head Coach?

  • Frank de Boer (58%, 6,784 Votes)
  • Remi Garde (21%, 2,465 Votes)
  • Thomas Tuchel (9%, 1,025 Votes)
  • Temuri Ketsbaia (4%, 477 Votes)
  • Paul Clement (3%, 321 Votes)
  • Christophe Galtier (3%, 311 Votes)
  • Aitor Karanka (2%, 290 Votes)

Total Voters: 11,673

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63 comments so far

  • AncientC

    Jan 23, 2015 at 10:43 PM

    Comment #1

    Are the club not supposed to agree a fee with Ajax before being allowed to approach Frank De Boer.

    I am not surprised that Frank refused to talk.

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  • martoon

    Jan 23, 2015 at 10:47 PM

    Comment #2

    Maybe NUFC should try ‘talk to Frank’ 🙂

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  • firebug666

    Jan 23, 2015 at 10:49 PM

    Comment #3

    martoon

    PMSL; The way the club is being run I think a lot of them need to.

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  • stuart no9

    Jan 23, 2015 at 10:53 PM

    Comment #4

    Lets be honest , nufc dont do class now ,so , FdB coming to newcastle when he could have a pick of a proper club just wont happen . FdB is as ambitious as they come, how on earth is he going to work with the slug ?? i think he is too intelligent to even consider it and put himself into a position he will later regret.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 23, 2015 at 10:54 PM

    Comment #5

    Ancient

    He’s out of contract in the summer, not sure if it’s the same policy as with players where they are free to talk.

    But also fees don’t need to be agreed, just permission from his current employer. Same with players, no point spending days thrashing out a fee for the person to instantly dismiss that club.

    As for my opinion on De Boer, not seen an awful lot of Ajax, just bits and pieces, they seem decent though, lacking a little in the champions league. Obviously not the top quality players there but would how to see more. I think he would be an excellent manager for us though, the only problem is that come the summer there may well be better clubs coming for him than is so we could potentially wait 5/6 months for nothing. Big gamble for me.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 23, 2015 at 10:58 PM

    Comment #6

    As Charnley was talking about implementing a philosophy he should be going around clubs with strong academies, Man Utd, Southampton, arsenal, Ajax, fc Basel, etc and trying to get some key men over to our club. That would be showing ambition to develop the club.

    Having the right people is key. I know it’s not the best example but Lee Cattermole was speaking the other day saying working under poyet his game is improving, he’s always learning more about his position and he enjoys training more.

    Having a good coach (doesn’t need to be the head coach, just a coach who worka with the first team) is vital to push and develop players, they can learn a great deal even as they get older…somebody like Tiote for example has stagnated, nobody seems to have improved his weaknesses and as a result these are now targeted by the opposition, pressing him early to cause him to lose the ball.

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  • sing in the corner

    Jan 23, 2015 at 10:59 PM

    Comment #7

    firebug

    Charnley’s statement has done nothing to change my view that the fans need to join up their disgust of Ashley’s dismantling of the club. I would hate them to think that if the club do somehow monitor blogs / forums. Its just simmering away in the background, and people seem to prefer bickering and quoting songs. I agree with you, what is needed is organisation and leadership. The one thing on the side of David against Goliath is the size and profile of the club and his owner. He / it is nothing if its not a big / visible target. Shit sticks, Its just a matter of where you plaster it.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 23, 2015 at 11:02 PM

    Comment #8

    Sing

    The problem is you have lots of people wanting to prove they are the best fan/answer and then argue/invent facts against ashley. The reality is there is more than enough genuine evidence to make him a disposable owner without dragging in opinions such as which manager he hired/fired etc.

    Like you say, we must unite.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 23, 2015 at 11:04 PM

    Comment #9

    Sing

    I know it’s not realistic but say the club was worth 200mil, would mean each of the 52,000 people putting just shy of 4,000 in.

    Now this is daft, it won’t happen, some fans wouldn’t want to, some can’t (low income, kids, etc) but those who did and could afford to, if they could unite with a consortium then maybe we could see a chance.

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  • firebug666

    Jan 23, 2015 at 11:06 PM

    Comment #10

    sing in the corner

    Fan groups are always looking for members, so why don’t they start to give something in return, Just one group needs to step forward pick up the mantle and say “come on NUFC fans lets get Jabba the Hut out of our club”.

    Unfortunately, and shamefully just like the rest of us the will make there feeling known on blogs such as this, and in their members news letters.

    That’s the crux of it for us, we have no leaders.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Jan 23, 2015 at 11:09 PM

    Comment #11
  • sing in the corner

    Jan 23, 2015 at 11:21 PM

    Comment #12

    A bloodless coup, seize control of the banks assets and pay him whatever he wants…The stuff wonderful dreams are made of. But in the real world it will come down to Ashley finding a better proposition and leaving voluntarily when he fancies it.
    Football has changed so much even in my lifetime. SKY tv and the politics of greed have ruined the working man’s game. The result is you get owned by someone like Ashley.
    I remember a conversation I had with a mate when SKY started this all off. He used to say to me he was fed up with watching crap footballers charging round on a mud bath. He wanted to see the best players from around the world competing at SJP.
    But some of my best memories were of following Newcastle in the uncovered Gallowgate end, standing in the lashing rain, guys with highlighted mullets piling into the ground at 2.55pm stinking of brown ale, spilling brown sauce down my back from a ‘Keegan’s Burger’ before spontaneously peeing on the terraces where they stood.
    Maybe I’m a sado masochist but part of me will always think that football was more in touch with me then and vice versa

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  • firebug666

    Jan 23, 2015 at 11:25 PM

    Comment #13

    sing in the corner

    Well said mate, sorry about the brown sauce, but I am not apologising for the peeing. 😳

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  • sing in the corner

    Jan 23, 2015 at 11:30 PM

    Comment #14

    So what did you do with the mullet ??
    Nah, nostalgia aside…you’re dead right of course. Leadership and organisation. But who? Many will follow. I think it would be surprising how quick it would catch on if the right buttons were to be pressed, Maybe the fans are, like the club is often described, a sleeping giant. With the mother of all headaches

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  • firebug666

    Jan 23, 2015 at 11:39 PM

    Comment #15

    sing in the corner

    We need someone like NUST, but they like to take the more political route, which generally takes a long time to achieve nothing.

    Maybe a new group with a new name and agenda. We need a group that will not just take on Ashley, but anyone who disrespects the fans and takes them for granted.

    One thing fans should keep in mind is that if SD lose there power at Newcastle (bad publicity, blocked advertising, poor sales in shops etc.) the will want out and if that happens Ashley will sell up and move on.

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  • p

    Jan 23, 2015 at 11:40 PM

    Comment #16

    sing in the corner – that is it, I think the issue is that the league has changed.

    Ashley is by no means the worst owner in the PL and certainly not in Newcastle’s history.

    At the end of the day he has not dismantled the club in terms of the tangible assets. He has actually turned it into a sensible business where you spend less than you earn and have a strategy by which you try to compete with more powerful competitors than yourself.

    Obviously the morale or spirit of the club has been dismantled because of this inherent sensibleness being applied to an area of people’s lives where they are not really looking for a ruthlessly executed business model.

    Still, a club can not survive in the long term like a Freddie Shepherd’s Newcastle and at least – regardless of what people think – is not trying to really dismantle the club. It’s not in his interest.

    I think what fans really need is a guy to buy the club who loves it as much as they do and does not mind losing money in the process. I do not see that happening to be honest.

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  • p

    Jan 23, 2015 at 11:47 PM

    Comment #17

    @14 seriously mate, the key challenge is find a good owner. Trying to get rid of the existing one is not going to solve the problem.

    If some kind of fan power – and it is unlikely – manages to convince him to sell soon rather than later, what type of owner do you think is going to want to buy the club?

    If there were any out there, Mash would have already sold, he always sells at the right price.

    The reality is, no one wants to touch this club with a barge pole. That is apart from Shepherd and people seem to have short memories about how he referred to the ladyfolk of Newcastle and stupidity of fans for buying chatty shirts at overinflated prices. Never, mind the money he pocketed and the state he left the club in.

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  • stan anderson

    Jan 23, 2015 at 11:50 PM

    Comment #18

    We always new that the Seymours,the Westwoods and Sir John and Freddie were in it for the cash, but not to the extent of this barsteward who is trying to convince supporters that premier survival is all that matters.

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  • firebug666

    Jan 23, 2015 at 11:53 PM

    Comment #19

    p

    Why would any new owner lose money? It not like the fans are asking for 40 or 50 million pound signings, with three or four good players in now we could have a pretty good team playing good ambitious football.

    P we have more debt now than ever before, we also have more money coming in than ever before, (minus any money we should be getting from advertising and merchandising). The business model is not to bad, and could be fixed if not for the greedy fat tw@.

    As for the rest, he has sold the land that was attached to the club, and pocketed the money from it, so there is no chance of ever expanding the ground now. and where the team is concerned, they never get what we need when we need it, replacing players should be a priority, but they are prepared to wait and see all the time.

    The moral, heart and soul are not missing from the fans, there still in there, just we have nothing to get excited about.

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  • murvar

    Jan 24, 2015 at 12:00 AM

    Comment #20

    It’s fanciful to think that a “leader” can unify fans into a single organised body which can oust Ashley through a focussed campaign. The truth is that the opposition to him is a disorganised rabble which will not give someone else the power to decide how such a campaign should be run. Don’t waste time opposing Ashley – instead focus on giving him what he wants – a return on his investment. Support those who would buy him out.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Jan 24, 2015 at 12:08 AM

    Comment #21

    stan anderson // Jan 23, 2015 at 11:50 PM

    We always new that the Seymours,the Westwoods and Sir John and Freddie were in it for the cash, but not to the extent of this barsteward who is trying to convince supporters that premier survival is all that matters.
    Not true – Gordon McKeag told my dad that the board then actually preferred to be in the 2nd Division cos they got the same crowds with less hassle and money was easier to “lose“Owners have always been dodgy-Ashley is better than the old style thieves

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  • p

    Jan 24, 2015 at 12:13 AM

    Comment #22

    Firebug, we have no debt. Ashley owns the club and he lent himself some money.

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  • lesh

    Jan 24, 2015 at 12:47 AM

    Comment #23

    P

    A minor point: Ashley didn’t lend himself some money. He, in the form of MASH Holdings Ltd (probably) loaned Newcastle United in the form of one or other of the Ltd companies, the money. The loan is an inter-company one!

    Oh, and just in case anyone’s falling for the de Boer hype, don’t forget it’s that time of the year – season ticket renewal time.

    Fans’ power lies in their wallets and refusal to commit to renewing seasons would send Ashley a powerful message – one he couldn’t ignore.

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  • Average_Contents

    Jan 24, 2015 at 12:48 AM

    Comment #24

    If we have no debt then why the “free advertising” that SD have in return for us paying no interest? I believe they said something along the lines of, we wouldn’t receive anything like the amount owed to fatty for advertising so he uses it. This was stated by the club themselves.

    Just another point, obviously the £11m he took out a few seasons ago wasn’t paying this loan back then? This was stated by the club that yes it was a repayment of the loan.

    He was meant to take out another £18m not so long ago but didn’t. Again the club said this was for the loan but it got deffered for a later date.

    What is a loan by definition?

    The borrowing of money from one person or business to another. If my bank account has an overdraft facility of say £1000 and I’m in my overdraft then in effect I’m in debt.

    Dress it up how you like we all know it’s debt.

    So yes we are in it upto our necks to the tune of £129m.

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  • Average_Contents

    Jan 24, 2015 at 12:55 AM

    Comment #25

    Lesh

    Are you implying the club would try and deliberately mislead us. Surely not. How cynical.

    I’m with you.

    It’s the same thing every year at around this time. Transparent.

    It amazes me how some still hold out hope tbh.

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  • Average_Contents

    Jan 24, 2015 at 1:00 AM

    Comment #26

    For those who say he won’t respond to fan’s protests. He gave the club back their naming rights to Ibrox and now this. Just goes to show doesn’t it.

    MIKE ASHLEY looks set to press ahead with his Rangers power grab by handing the club another huge emergency loan to cover next week’s wage bill.

    Record Sport understands the Newcastle owner is on the verge of having the offer of a new multi-million pound funding package accepted over a crisis cash deal from the consortium of wealthy supporters made up of Douglas Park, George Letham and George Taylor.

    Sources close to the discussions were adamant last night that Ashley’s money will not be secured against Ibrox after his original £10m rescue package was restructured in the face of furious protests from the club’s fans.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Jan 24, 2015 at 1:28 AM

    Comment #27

    Seriously, what could a head coach/manager build for the future of this football club? Under these structures?

    All he can possibly do is keep the money spinning for Mike Ashleys agenda. To buy low sell high, then don’t put it all back into the club.

    How embarassing.

    I have nightmares, that we may win a trophy after all this time under this owner and shocking treatment of the footballing side of the club. The reason being it would be a total fluke and wasn’t meant to be and that we didn’t mean to do it.

    This man needs to leave pronto he should have his heart ripped out. This isn’t business. It’s the lowest of the low.

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  • jimmysmith

    Jan 24, 2015 at 1:41 AM

    Comment #28

    The complaints about Ashley are reasonable considering we are football club, so the focus should be more on entertaining the fans and competing. But Newcastle aren’t that far off what might be considered punching at a correct weight either. Even the comparison with Spurs is a little dubious because they are in London which is a huge advantage to them. Comparing our lot to Everton and Villa is probably nearer the mark, and also our present with our past. He still comes up short, but the margin isn’t anywhere near as huge as his detractors claim, I think, and of course he’s rich enough to change things on a whim, and doubtless will if it ever suited him.

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  • p

    Jan 24, 2015 at 1:41 AM

    Comment #29

    How hard is this to understand? The club may be a separate legal entity but he owns both the loaner and loaner. When you have an inter company loan you eliminate it at the level where the 2 meet from an ownership perspective. If you were to consolidate mike’s own balance sheet the loan eliminates.

    How he structures his own finances is irrelevant including advertising. It’s all inter company transactions.

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  • p

    Jan 24, 2015 at 1:43 AM

    Comment #30

    Tp that is the real debate – is he making too much profit?

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Jan 24, 2015 at 1:48 AM

    Comment #31

    Jimmy,

    It’s about putting what we earn as a club back into the future of the club. Not making 50 million profits. Where is the ambition??

    The wage cap should be increased we should be able to bring in top quality players and pay their wages regardless of wage. Respected, experienced pro’s. Players that could let us push top six and add decent depth. It’s all about competeing not splashing silly amounts, we arn’t competeing?

    For too long we have lived with the bare bones without reasonable back up once injuries occur. Or, if we sell our top players. A few youngings can’t hide that.

    Our seasons our decimated through either injuries or Ashley doubling his money without timely replacements. We are constantly derailed.

    That’s just not good enough for Newcastle.

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  • p

    Jan 24, 2015 at 1:52 AM

    Comment #32

    TP, I think they had been making 10m which does not give you much leeway to spend more on players and wages, that is a small, reasonable profit to me.

    If, as is expected, that goes to 50m then I think they should be spending more on players.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Jan 24, 2015 at 1:55 AM

    Comment #33

    P,

    The debate is why won’t he let us spend our own income on competeing to the level we could do.

    Why does he want impressive profits and not want to move the club forward and compete.

    We will see soon enough.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jan 24, 2015 at 2:00 AM

    Comment #34

    SFA hearing for Mr Tubbs is on Monday -we MIGHT find out what he’s up to.

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  • jimmysmith

    Jan 24, 2015 at 2:08 AM

    Comment #35

    Yeah, it’s a problem. How much is he reasonably entitled to take from a club, that he owns lock stock and barrel, and having cleared the debt. Although at this stage, other than the advertising and merchandising, you’d say he’s taking nothing. I think the greater question is how much he is profiting from advertising and also how the profits we are now making are earmarked. But this profit is relatively new, isn’t it. We don’t yet know what is planned for it in reality. isn’t that correct?

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  • p

    Jan 24, 2015 at 2:10 AM

    Comment #36

    TP well it’s not our income but I know what you mean. 10m gets you nowt, 50m obviously does hence my last comment.

    Still we do not know his intentions, perhaps he wants his loan back in his pocket and that is fair enough.

    Of course one would then expect all the money to be reinvested but it’s up to him. But it is ethically wrong to use it as a cash cow but as I keep saying the pl is a business these days.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Jan 24, 2015 at 2:11 AM

    Comment #37

    Mister tuff,

    I hope so, because im well baffled with his agenda with Rangers.

    I can’t understand his intentions apart from a cheap buy out and sell for profit. The the main exposure for advertising is the Premier League. Your only guaranteed, what, six games Chanpions League group stage? Maybe im wrong?

    Surely Premier League for a season is more worthy with it’s exposure.

    Unless NUFC has just ran it’s course for him and the pressure maybe getting to him? His options and contacts have well and truly ran out now. Maybe he is ready to go, i sure hope so.

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  • p

    Jan 24, 2015 at 2:18 AM

    Comment #38

    Spot on Jimmy. And honestly I can see why he might resent the fans. He has got little from owning this club regardless what people think. The interest free loan washes with free advertising so we are likely making 10m up until the new tv deal.

    The question is what happens when he starts making 50m every year and nufc has either cleared the loan or has 100m in the bank? That is when we will know his true intention, though he has hinted that he will sell at that point. Probably because a big chunk of fans hate him for not blowing another. 100m of his own money on the club.

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  • p

    Jan 24, 2015 at 2:20 AM

    Comment #39

    Yeah rangers are distressed asset going for a song. It is a fast buck for him I think.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Jan 24, 2015 at 2:25 AM

    Comment #40

    Jimmy,

    His wealth has tripled in the past few years. I’d say NUFC has played an important role in that along with his other low life endevours.

    I know, he is a business man. But why isn’t he spending what we earn?

    It has been a good while now we have been in the black, there is no excuse. He simply does not want to push us on or be ambitious.

    Why save up all this coin and keep a wage structure in place that does not really need to be there now? TV money has increased, look at the clubs around us? Who are we competeing with now whilst he stagnates us? It’s poor.

    Look at all the money saving? He is off, it’s just a matter of when.

    The five year plan was nothing but to get the highest earners off the books and to make us self sufficient. We have been for a while now so now it’s just a saving mission, the question is why? And where is the money going to go?

    Our policy is simple and has been spelled out now. Buy cheap sell at a profit season after season. Even if it means derailing a league placing.

    If we become unstuck by January, bring our targets forward and spend what we would of did in the summer. Preferably with cash from a sale.

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