Former Newcastle Striker Upset – Mike Ashley Hasn’t Got A Clue


Newcastle announced yesterday that John Carver will be caretaker manager through the end of the season, and if Newcastle want to appoint a coach who is only available in the summer, that seemed an obvious move.

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Micky Quinn – Ashley hasn’t got a clue

But Newcastle fans are not happy with the appointment, and in our poll a massive 84% of readers didn’t want  John to manage the club through the end of the season.

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From his column in the Chronicle we knew Micky Quinn was not an admirer of John Carver’s coaching abilities,  and this is what Micky Quinn has said on the Alan Brazil Sports Breakfast show this morning:.

“It wasn’t a surprise was it? It is the cheaper option for the club,” “There is no improvement in the team since John took over. He might just show people what he is made of, but the jury is out as far as I am concerned.”

“Is he good enough for Newcastle? Based on the last five games (he’s managed for four games so far) , no, he is not good enough.” “It smacks very much of a lack of ambition. It is an insult to the fans.”

“There is just no ambition and while Ashley is there the soul of the club is rotting away slowly. He is only interested in making money.” “Business-wise, Mike Ashley is a genius. Football-wise, he hasn’t got a clue.”

We’re not sure what Newcastle could have done differently, other than bring in a  more experienced coach until the summer, when presumably some of their top candidates for the head coach position will become available.

But when you let a manager (or a player for that matter) leave midway through the season, it’s always going to be difficult to replace them.

And before Newcastle agreed to let Pardew go to Crystal Palace for a compensation fee in early January – the club should have known the likelihood was that they couldn’t get a good replacement through the door until the summer.

But Newcastle don’t think that way (as in logical). and as soon as they agreed a compensation amount of upwards of £3M Alan Pardew was gone.

Money will always be King at Newcastle as long as Mike Ashley is owner – forget the team or even the coach for that matter.

We just hope we are not dragged into a (another) relegation scrap this season because of the latest antics of the Newcastle Board.

It’s simply a terrible way to run a football club.

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143 comments so far

  • Ibizatoon

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #1

    Ed…It may well have been the best long term option, we wont know that until they actually announce the next manager.

    Given their history, I think it’s understandable that people are assuming the worse, which is that they’re simply cheap and coasting through.

    As always though, they’ll dangle a brighter tomorrow in our faces, hoping we have a little more hope left inside us to buy them some more time.

    My blind faith period is well and truly up. They need to show their intentions, not just talk about them.

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  • dazzler

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #2

    Toonbrother,

    Would your stance change on McLaren if he did come in the summer and kept playing colocinni?

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  • Tsunki

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #3

    I wonder if micky has got any bigger since that photo lol?

    I reckon if all goes to plan with Rangers, we will see Ashley buying up ailing big clubs in Europe and the Americas over the next few years. When he finally goes to the great Greggs in the sky, his SD Empire will be a juggernaut mining the life essence of every club it rolls over.

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  • JAMSHA(CARVER SLAYER)

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #4

    ausi 2-0 uae…. bring on…

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  • dazzler

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:20 AM

    Comment #5

    Ibiza

    Most of everyone’s blind faith was removed post charnleys interview I think. Even the NUFC fans who rely on the southern media to tell them how to think, since it appears people in the press are beginning to realise what is going on here.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #6

    Tsunki…If Ashley manages to complete his Rangers mission, without needing to sell us, I would imagine governing bodies may well look in to their laws and regulations.

    I expect something like the “fatty amendment” to come in to place 🙂

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  • JackButler

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #7

    Knowing that Ashley is prepared to gamble with this season, as we are far from safe, for the goal of appointing Steve McClaren is nothing short of a joke.

    When are people going to wake up and realise that this man is making mugs out of every single NUFC fan with his actions as owner?

    We get everything we deserve as we are doing nothing to force this man out

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  • hibbit

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #8

    toonbrother what if derby go up and we go down have been told SmL is not interested in the nufc job won’t work for ashley

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #9

    Quinn is just a bloated xenophobe who I pay little attention to and he is only repeating what everyone is thinking in any case.

    Ed

    Agree with your earlier thread, if it has to be English, as it seems to have to be with Ashley, then McLaren isn’t the worse shout at all, but it hardly gets the pulse racing when the alleged short list also includes Frank de Boer of Ajax, Christope Gaultier of St Etienne, Thomas Tuchel, the former Mainz coach and former Lyon coach, Remi Garde,

    As you so correctly say” We’d be disappointed if Steve is the top choice, because we’d like to see a top continental coach take charge of Newcastle.”

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  • Tsunki

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #10

    It was evident a long time ago that Ashley and his mob are absolutely clueless about running a club, they are market traders. They are trying to learn as they go, but there’s no chance of them picking up the passion that drives a clubs ambition, or understanding the fans love for their club, they are not marketing skills that can be learned, and if you don’t know what these things,are, you never will.

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  • Average_Contents

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #11

    Here’s the link for the interview. Spot on again.
    Out
    Out of interest, has Quinny who says it as it is stopped his column in the chronicle? Haven’t seen any articles from him for awhile. Coincidentally the local rags that were banned have been pro-regime and pro-carver since they’ve been allowed back in. Funny that.

    http://mobile.newsnow.co.uk/A/755387769?-11058:809

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #12

    JB

    Until you get the 50000 wonga wearing brigade to sacrifice a couple of home games for the greater good, Ashley is never going anywhere

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  • JackButler

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #13

    Rotonda

    Agree mate, its a sad state of affairs when you see people still turning up every single week no matter what Ashley does, we have no one to blame other than ourselves

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  • Mr Magpie

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #14

    What they could have done is appointed Carver till the end of the season whilst agreeing pre contract agreement with the new head coach & if it is required compensation to his club to release him in the summer.

    Once that was all sorted they could have discussed potential targets with the new coach & made attempts to have signed them up now to integrate them into the first team squad in preparation for the arrival of the new coach in the summer summer.

    This however would show both foresight & ambition which are two things the current regime appear to lack in abundance.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #15

    Amazing how in different polls 87% didn’t want Carver or McLlaren and 96% want FDB. Thanks for listening Ash and Charnley.

    The stupid thing for Ash is that if we had a coach who could really develop younsters they would be worth a lot more.

    Alli
    Lascelles
    Roberts
    Aarons
    Perez
    Abeid
    Bigirimana
    Good
    Streete
    Satka
    Armstrong

    That’s quite a crop

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  • tequilamag

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #16

    RH but if the the only way the 96% can get FDB is in the Summer then what is the alternative between now and then other than Carver?

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  • hibbit

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #17

    can any one tell me why SmL would won’t to come……. people seem to think if he is offered the job he will drop everything and come running why would he do that

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  • JackButler

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #18

    tequila

    Can you ever see Ashley going for someone like FDB????

    I can’t

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  • tequilamag

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #19

    JB not really no. I said when Pardew left that MA does not do crowd pleasers I am amazed anyone thought he was about to change this time.

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  • hibbit

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #20

    what happens if we get to the summer derby go up and SmL says no to us

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #21

    Why oh why would Mclaren come here, he probably stillbfancies the Man U job, he’ll need silverware to have even a remote outside chance of getting a better gig, as Pulis, Sherwood and Bruce have all realised, Wembley is mot in our job description

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  • JackButler

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #22

    tequila

    FDB is a dream that fans have that will never come true under Ashley, as FDB equates to ambition and we all know that he doesn’t do ambition, but he his yet again gambling with this season for what looks like the appointment of McClaren – hardly a move to lift the mood of the fans

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  • sickandtired

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #23

    Question is, does anyone REALLY believe FDB etc would come to NUFC and work under Ashley, Charnley & Carr and their statement of intent of how to operate? Of course not. Whoever takes this, unless JC pulls a rabbit out the hat and stays, will be a lower league nobody desperate for a job or be in need of severe psychological counselling!

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  • tequilamag

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #24

    JB I know mate I said a time that Pardew was a lightening rod for the fans frustrations but it was amazing how MA was getting off pretty much scot free from the Pardew hystericals.
    Now it is Carvers turn to get the daily kickings and they will still be thinking in the back of their minds that MA will do the right thing in the Summer.

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  • JackButler

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #25

    sickandtired

    We will never know if FDB would come and work here as we would never even think about appointing him

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  • hibbit

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #26

    i honestly think this is bishop at work to give the club time i am not sure why derby have not reported newcastle to the fa for tapping up there manager this could cost them promotion

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  • JackButler

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #27

    tequila

    I’ve said for longer than I can remember that as long as SJP is full on match days Ashley will continue to sit back and laugh at how gullible we are for allowing him to do whatever the hell he likes. there is no recourse to his action and as long as thats the case he will continue to make fools of us all

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  • geordie157

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #28

    All will be reveiled in the summer as to how much ambition we have.

    McLaren would be an OK appointment but nothing special, he will improve players but i’ve seen a lot of Derby and a bit of his Twente side and the worry for me is neither really have a plan B.

    Garde or Tuchel would be much better options. Would imagine they would want some of their coaches to join them, hopefully they’d go in for a player too, ie Lacazette, Grenier, Gonalons of Lyon or Geis of Mainz.

    De Boer is the slightly more ambitious option but Ashley would need to splash a bit more cash i feel to entice him.

    Outside bet on Laudrup.

    Knowing Toon fans luck though it won’t be any of those

    right back to my Grand Magus and Audrey Horne rock n roll.

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  • tequilamag

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #29

    JB in the 70s and 80s fans would vote with their feet and it paved the way for SJH to take over,Gate receipts are now only about 20@ of total revenue and financially it would be a small hit even if 20000 stopped going. As a demonstration of unhappiness it would have a bigger symbolic effect but I doubt whether Ash would give two hoots.

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  • tequilamag

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #30

    @ =%

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  • Sleepin Giant

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #31

    Let’s be honest….. Why would FDB come to the Toon when he is being linked with Barca and other top European clubs ?
    Just to get a foothold in the EPL ? A mid ranking club with ambition not to be too successful – not to get into Eurpena competition and not win cups ? Woulod any self respecting professional coach accept that ?

    The club have never rushed to replace players sopld on so why would they rush to replace the manager/ head coach ?
    For “It’s a liong term appointment” read “We need just the right type of yes man and can’t find one.”

    Thc gamble is that Carver will keep us above 18th. The short term has always been sacrificed in replacing players to keep the side competitive. The bottom line is much more important.

    We have no ambition for any kind of success so there is no urgency in keeping the level of performance up or bedding in a new coach/manager to aim high for next season.We have a culture of mediocrity not ofexcelllence and this filters through the entire club including the players. Spirit on the pitch ? Playing for the shirt ? Just enough will do.

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  • grem1983

    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #32

    @JackButler Boycotting will make no difference at all, as 70% of the stadium have season tickets which are already paid for and match day revenue is a small percentage of the club revenue, If the stadium was empty every week the club would still be able to turn a profit of TV and price money.

    And as a season ticket holder I have paid my money and want to offer my support to the team. Boycotting is more likely to have an adverse effect to the team leading to another relegation. Even under Charver we should be able to pick up 10 points with some winnable home games.

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  • Big Archie

    Jan 27, 2015 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #33

    Things have changed since Quinn left football 20 years ago.

    And unless people actually get their heads around the fact that Ashley is running this as a business then their comments are quite simply illinformed

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  • JackButler

    Jan 27, 2015 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #34

    tequila

    any form of protest reflects badly on SD and thats all he cares about, he has tied NUFC and Sd so close together that he has inadvertently given us the way to force his hand, but sadly too many fans are locked in the cycle of turning up no matter what, hitting match day revenue wouldn’t really hurt Ashley but the negative publicity that a determined protest would bring to SD would hurt him and thats the way to go imho

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 27, 2015 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #35

    I think you will all see that the season tickets will keep selling themselves regardless of what stunt he pulls!

    …Ibiza has a point Ashley needs to earn our trust from now on – if he doesn’t deliver we won’t support him. No more blind faith.

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  • JackButler

    Jan 27, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #36

    grem1983

    Like many fans season ticket direct debits can be cancelled, but a boycott added to mass protest would hit him, as for paying your money and wanting to support the team, thats fine you’ve paid your money and have the right to do whatever you want, but how much support have the club given the fans for the hard earned money they have paid out?????

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  • tequilamag

    Jan 27, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #37

    JB I can see the logic in attacking the thing MA really loves to loosen his grip on Newcastle until you look at the publicity SD gets anyway. It`s all negative already.

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  • tequilamag

    Jan 27, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #38

    JB though I quite liked the story about the Rangers fans going to SAD stores and offering £1 for any item

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  • JackButler

    Jan 27, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #39

    tequila

    Its kinda sad that the Rangers fans are kicking up more of a fuss then we are and he doesn’t even own them……………………….yet.

    I know that nothing will happen and the fans will continue to take everything he throws at us, its just sad that we accept the fact he has removed all ambition from the club

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  • optimistic prime

    Jan 27, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #40

    Why don’t we all hold hand encircling SJP like a huge daisy chain singing songs of love and peace then ask Ashley nicely to leave.

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