Leaders Have To Stop Putting Newcastle In Jeopardy


The game at Hull City on Saturday is turning out to be an important game for both John Carver and Newcastle United, and we need to take something out of this game.

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Lee Charnley and Mike Ashley

There is a real danger at Newcastle that we’ll go the way of last season at this time, and start losing too many games.

Last January we had sold our best player Yohan Cabaye to PSG for £20M and didn’t replace him, and this January we have allowed manager Alan Pardew to leave for Crystal Palace for around £4M in compensation, and then found out we cannot replace him with a suitable candidate until the summer.

That should not have been a surprise to people like Lee Charnley, and it may put the club in some jeopardy (again?) of being dragged into a relegation fight, if we cannot start winning games soon.

Do the people running Newcastle ever think these things through before letting personnel leave in January for money – it certainly doesn’t look like it.

We don’t have the points on the board that we had last year at this time, when we had 36 points from 22 games – 9 points more than we have this season.

Newcastle and Hull have both lost their last three games,  and Hull haven’t even scored a goal – at least we scored one goal against Southampton last time out. 😀

Newcastle are 11th in the Premier League with 27 points, and Hull are 18th on 19 points, so a Hull win would not be good on  Saturday.

We hope that Newcastle can get back to winning ways – and there’s a lot of hope in that statement, but hey, maybe Newcastle can shock us on Saturday and play well and also win the game?

But the  higher-ups at the club have to stop putting the team in jeopardy almost every January, in the name of  making money.

We will lose an awful lot of money if we are relegated again, and it will happen when we look comfortable in January as we do now, and decide not to reinforce the squad. 🙁

And who knows, we may even be daft enough to let Moussa Sissoko leave before Monday night.

And if that happens would that really be a big surprise?

We don’t seem to have enough savvy experienced people running Newcastle United these days.

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53 comments so far

  • Obertan's better than Messi

    Jan 29, 2015 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #1

    Ashley’s too scared of relegation to run the club in a sporting way.

    He’s very happy exactly where we are.

    Covered in SD adverts, mid-table and out of the cups.

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  • Tsunki

    Jan 29, 2015 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #2

    Apparently no. No, they don’t.

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  • Phil K

    Jan 29, 2015 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #3

    If we go down this time, there’ll be a stampede of players out the door and we WILL “Do a Leeds” with Carver in charge because we damn well WON’T get a decent manager in Championship

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 29, 2015 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #4

    Guys Newcastle is no country or ideology – it’s corporate communism in its worst form;

    …I know tequila got confused about the term and had to look it up and now think it only have to do with Obamacare!

    It’s actually quite real and it’s taking the enjoyment and purpose out of everything. It’s about the money and overcharging those who depend on it.

    Lining your own pocket on behalf of the system! The biggest scam since (pick of your choosing) 🙂

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  • Tsunki

    Jan 29, 2015 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #5

    This is what happens when you put someone on charge of the wrong business. Ashleys outfit I’d suited to retail. The football/entertainment business is completely alien to them. When they stop treating us with disdain as he does with his tat buying clientele, and starts treating us like theatregoers for example, then he’ll get it. Unfortunately the fans seem to be the best theatre audiences you can get atm. We keep going and paying good money to watch a perennial flop with bad performers.

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  • tequilamag

    Jan 29, 2015 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #6

    Jesp no confusion , the term is an oxymoron. You do no what an oxymoron is I assume. You are half-way there after all

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 29, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #7

    Tequila…yes it’s a paradox where in there lies a truth 😉

    …which is the clever part here mate…and why it suit Newcastle in its current state so well wouldn’t you say (well I know you wouldn’t say that – you made that clear yesterday)

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  • estechco

    Jan 29, 2015 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #8

    Jesper – Sorry, yes I did see your post, but got distracted by an annoying thing called work. I’ve done the full TC back catalogue, but only skirted around Dizzy Mizz Lizzy so far, although may revisit based on the reunion.

    My Spotify link is http://spoti.fi/1z6ftBm (rather than bore others with music chat on here)

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  • stan anderson

    Jan 29, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #9

    The owner and his staff are slugs,living off the backs of a once great club and are taking liberties with the true fans whose whole life revolves around the club.

    I would not pee on them if they were burning.

    Parasites.

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  • beermonkey

    Jan 29, 2015 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #10

    it was discussed last night, there is an article saying Ashley will be summoned to Westminster over his pursuit of rangers and him not being a proper fit owner,

    if he is summoned he will have to attend,
    if we all take 5 mins to email the local mp’s and get them to attend we will have a voice and will be able to get our side out there
    the info is easy to find some of it was posted last night

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 29, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #11

    beermonkwy,
    I didn’t see the article, but I was under the impression that Ashley could be called to the Scottish Parliament, not Westminster. It was an MSP that called for him to appear in front of them with regard to Rangers.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 29, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #12

    ed

    sadly ash isn’t compelled to do a damn thing.

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  • awaydays

    Jan 29, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #13

    Morning everyone

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  • beermonkey

    Jan 29, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #14

    Lilongwe

    in the article in mirror it said he was being called to Westminster

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  • beermonkey

    Jan 29, 2015 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #15

    Lilongwe

    mind you it is a article of gray areas as it says he has been summoned and then goes on to say he could be summoned

    if it is Westminster then its good for us like you say it would make more sense if its the Scottish parliament

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  • firebug666

    Jan 29, 2015 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #16

    If he is found to be not fit and proper to own a football club, then surly he will have to sell Newcastle.

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  • awaydays

    Jan 29, 2015 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #17

    can someone tell me id f theres anything transfer wise ? This delle ali kid looks decent

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  • awaydays

    Jan 29, 2015 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #18

    Firebug
    He would manage to worm his way out of it by talking about the books and how he can balance them
    Ashley out

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 29, 2015 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #19

    stan anderson

    it’s like a drug supporting nufc. you know it’s not good for you. the very few short term highs are never worth the long term depression but the addictive hold over me is crippling and always has been.

    I wish I could shake it but when you’re 9 years old back in 1970 and you see SJP for your first ever home match, along with 50000 screaming geordies and we beat Liverpool 2-1, you think it doesn’t much get much better than this.

    Fast forward 45 years and if I knew then what I know now, would I do it all again. Probably….!! NUFC fans would make a pyschiatrist’s dream!

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  • firebug666

    Jan 29, 2015 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #20

    awaydays

    Oh he would find more holes than a than in a net curtain to try and get out of it. But we could then put pressure on him, SD, and the FA to have him removed. Just a thought.

    On transfers, I don’t think there was ever any real interest, They just make a lot of noise about possible incomings to get the ST renewals and sales. Every year is the same.

    Make a couple of enquires about players, but no actual bids and let the press do the rest.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 29, 2015 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #21

    Beermonkey,
    I can’t see him being found to not be a fit and proper person by FA standards. He may not be the most principled, or ethical bloke, but he did, and would again sail through the requirements in that test still.

    According to the Scottish paper, Daily Record it is the Scottish Parliament, and relates to USC and their employees more than Rangers. Although the outcome of any USC investigation could affect him at Rangers.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 29, 2015 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #22

    firebug

    ash’s billions will buy him the best solicitors going and he’ll always come out smelling of roses

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  • beermonkey

    Jan 29, 2015 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #23

    Lilongwe

    there are a lot of questions being asked about him and how he does things
    and I am sure it wont be long before he summoned somewhere to explain certain things

    I still think given the importance the club has to the city then our local mp’s can take the opportunity to get our side out there as it will be covered by the press

    it might go some way to unifying the fans you never know

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 29, 2015 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #24

    Beer,
    Worth a try, but I can’t see it having an impact. He isn’t breaking laws, although is skirting around them. I’m not sure there is much that anybody can pull him up on at the moment. His methods are unethical, but not prohibited by law, and also used by many other large corporations throughout the world.

    I think there is more notice taken of his actions because of his involvement in football. Were he never to have come here, or tried to buy Rangers none of these stories about his business practices would make headlines outside of the business world.

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  • beermonkey

    Jan 29, 2015 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #25

    Lilongwe

    I agree he has done nothing wrong in the eyes of the law
    but there is a wave of discontent about him and if we can use it to get out plight out there then we should

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  • Mr Magpie

    Jan 29, 2015 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #26

    I see in the independent that Man City are forging links with St Etienne. These are the kind of things we should be doing if they are looking long term development.
    Forging links with club’s in the main leagues in Europe to get first pick of the talent & they can loan our players to give them game time & experience.

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  • Belfast

    Jan 29, 2015 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #27

    I think we’ll lose. Can’t see where the next win is coming from at the moment. Maybe they’ll surprise me lol

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 29, 2015 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #28

    mr magpie

    we seem to fail badly in those sort of initiatives

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  • beermonkey

    Jan 29, 2015 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #29

    mr magpie

    what do you mean treat them fairly maybe throw in sell on clause so every1 makes a bit of money small things like that
    when we had a large portion of the French national team a few friendlys over there

    there is so much we could of done and we more or less could have had the French market sewn up instead thanks to the fat controller and his minions we are branded thieves when papers link us with there manager
    and no1 there wants to deal with its only cos we pay in cash they talk to us

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  • beermonkey

    Jan 29, 2015 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #30

    RH/mr magpie

    all those things would boost the brand that is Newcastle and as we know were not here for that

    I quite admire what city are doing they are creating a football empire they have ties to clubs all over the place

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  • DokToon

    Jan 29, 2015 at 12:08 PM

    Comment #31

    gmorning all, from the dark side of the pond…

    we seemed to be linked with a few players… but window is shutting fast, better do something…

    oh wait… only reason why we get linked is to put MA’s name out there… we wont get a soul… and MA already sold his to the red horned guy downstairs…

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  • mike ashley for the greater good

    Jan 29, 2015 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #32

    look at reality Newcastle fans put the club in jeopardy when they drove Pardew out the club: http://sackpardew.com/
    He seems to be doing a decent job at Palace and their fans seem happy.

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  • AncientC

    Jan 29, 2015 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #33

    jesperfuglsang – capt’n awesome of the lemon crew // Jan 29, 2015 at 9:51 AM

    “Guys Newcastle is no country or ideology – it’s corporate communism in its worst form”

    Corporations and Communism do not mix.

    Ashley is about as far away from running a communist style operation as you can get.

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  • 70TWO

    Jan 29, 2015 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #34

    beermonkey

    I agree, it is only too true that the club is so busy looking out for how not to spend money or squeeze a situation that they miss a lot of what they could be doing to make the business more appreciated and consequently more profitable.

    I don’t know what Wendys’ remit is but so far she has unsuccessfully challenged the view of the club being ONLY interested in avoiding relegation.

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  • 70TWO

    Jan 29, 2015 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #35

    I wondered if this lad from MK Dons coming here was anything to do with an agreement being made when Alan Smith went to them on the cheap? That would be a typical gut wrenching Ashley deal.

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  • stuart no9

    Jan 29, 2015 at 12:32 PM

    Comment #36

    Will people start to understand , it’s not that Ashley hadn’t got a clue how to run a football club,,, he does , he doesn’t want to be successful , and he isn’t . He’s not daft , it is working out exactly how he wants it to.

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  • beermonkey

    Jan 29, 2015 at 12:45 PM

    Comment #37

    70two

    we buy players the same way Ashley buys stock from companies in trouble we steam roller them into the cheapest deal we can for maximum sell on regardless of what the view is, in the short term it works but as we are finding now clubs want more for there players from us as they know were gonna sell them on for a big profit within a few years

    its clear the where the club wants to be when we gave the job to carver no matter what spin they might put out there I just hope he delivers

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  • stuart no9

    Jan 29, 2015 at 12:51 PM

    Comment #38

    Beer—— only an experienced man could get ue out of this hole . Carver is not experienced enough . It takes more than putting 11 players on the pitch and telling them to give it their best shot .they have to be tactically astute , I can’t see it happening , not with carver anyway

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  • Slank

    Jan 29, 2015 at 12:59 PM

    Comment #39

    Lil @ 24

    That’s a very good assessment.

    Nobody gives a monkey about Ashley beyond the narrow confines of Newcastle and one half of Glasgow.

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  • 70TWO

    Jan 29, 2015 at 1:00 PM

    Comment #40

    stuart no9

    He has successfully made the operation of the club profitable but at the expense of the clubs reputation. It looks like he is planning to increase the margins through youth development but this is a very limited policy that has no guarantees. If his employment policy is that an individual must create more revenue than they earn then there are a wide range of initiatives a Commercial Manager could adopt that would generate a more positive environment around the club. At the moment I think the players have not much incentive and the fans are unmotivated, how is a Head Coach meant to achieve even the minimum objective in this situation?

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