This Is How Fans Think The Game Will Go At Hull Today


It’s the early kick-off game at Hull City today at 12:45 pm when Newcastle will try to get their first win on the board since Alan Pardew left for Crystal Palace after managing a 3-2 home win against Everton in his last game in charge on Tyneside – the last time we picked up all 3 points.

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John Carver – looking for first win as caretaker manager this season

This game will be televised live around the world, and Newcastle fans are fairly confident of getting a win today with half the fans thinking we can get all 3 points against a team that is currently 3rd bottom of the league.

We won this game 4-1 on March 1st last season when Alan Pardew head-butted Hull City  player David Meyler during the second  half when we were winning 3-1, and the Newcastle manager fined heavily by his club and the FA, and banned from the touchline for seven games.

More than half of Newcastle fans think we can win this game, and almost twice as many think we will win the game than think we will lose it.

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We (desperately) need the win today at the KC Stadium, and Newcastle shouldn’t be losing to clubs in the bottom three.

Buy you just never know with Newcastle.

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88 comments so far

  • lesh

    Jan 31, 2015 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #1

    If we do win, it’ll be a scrambled and fortunate result.

    However if we hammer Hull by a huge margin, I’ll give all credit to Carver.

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  • JAMSHA(CARVER SLAYER)

    Jan 31, 2015 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #2

    1-0 australia – Luongo… 4 assist..must keep a eye on this swidon town kid

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  • magscar

    Jan 31, 2015 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #3

    REPOST – Ed catches me out yet again

    23 magscar // Jan 31, 2015 at 9:45 AM

    Just catching up on posts since last night and it is same old same old.

    Any reasoned attempt to assess Ashley’s reign and seeing it dispassionately for what it is, is immediately denounced as deluded by the self named “real” fans. That is not to say that those who make such reasoned assessments agree with or condone all that has happened – they say as much.

    I also want better for my club but unless I suddenly become a Billionaire over night and Ashley feels like selling then I like the rest of you will have to sit this one out. Unless those calling for an assessment of him as “fit and proper” get a chance to set the parameters then you have as much chance as we do of winning a cup this season of having him found guilty as charged.

    All the name calling in the world might make your stock on here rise amongst those of a similar mind but as usual add nothing to the debate. I am disappointed that posters get off on referencing Ashley to some of the worst despots and Fascists dictators this world has ever known – some perspective please.

    Whilst I am on it can we also lose the references to his weight, garden insects, Star Wars and cartoon characters because there were never funny and just grow more tedious with their overuse – grow up young un’s and those old enough to know better realise that what may be said amongst mates in jest over a few pints when put into print doesn’t do you justice.

    I have said it before but in my time of supporting this club Ashley does not represent the worst owner of the club ( not kidding myself that I and other fans “own” this club or have a financial stake in it any more than I do in Morrisons because I happen to shop there).

    Sales of star players from Pop Robson , Macdonald, Beardsley, Waddle, Gazza, Cole and Ferdindand didn’t go under his watch. Cole being sold and not immediately replaced, te demolition of the Leazes and being left in a parlous state for years and the forced resiting of bond holders by a duplicitious board also went on before him so as I said get some historical ( not hysterical) perspective. Neither I (nor Jimmy, Slank and others who hold the minority expressed view on here) need to be lectured on our stance. It is our opinion and we do not live in a Communist ( to correctly use another buzz word) state so are entitled to it as others are their’s.

    To those who want to only assess the entertainment seek out some Leeds fans who lived the dreams ( without caring about the price because they were real fans) under Ridsdale but are still paying the price for a one-dimensional running of the club. I suspect the winning of the Premiership isn’t keeping them as warm as it did on first being relegated with the thought they would soon bounce back. Cellino their current saviour – now you are talking fit and proper 🙂

    Yes we all of different viewpoints know that Ashley could open up the purse a little more and not bankrupt us but it remains his choice and we can only hope that time will come.

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  • Average_Contents

    Jan 31, 2015 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #4

    Ah. Leeds. That old chestnut. You forgot to mention pompey.

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  • expatmag

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #5

    Jams ha

    Player of the tournament and already in the 5 million pound class. We should also look at Sainsbury too

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  • Ron Knee

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #6

    I expect the usual Jekyll and Hyde performance. One good half; one horror half.

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  • BoyDoneGood

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #7

    I still have an awful 2-2 feeling. But that kind of match is a lottery.

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  • ArtyH

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #8

    Sad to say but I think if we get a draw we will be lucky. I think the players will be sluggish and asleep first half where the damage will be done.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #9

    I really don’t have anything against Carver – and it might turn out like it did for Roeder;

    …finish of the season better than expected and we know the rest of the story.

    Carver is just nit the right long term solution – he is convenient because of his contract and ergo cheap. But all of this could be much more expensive long term.

    No one knows how it will turn out but what’s up with the gamble – it could end up oh so costly!

    There is a Forrest Gump quote that springs to mind 😉

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  • stuart no9

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #10

    stuart no9 // Jan 31, 2015 at 9:47 AM

    the reasson why ashly is still here is because of those fans who still attend every game NOT because of the fans who decided to stay away , we are not his customers

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  • magscar

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #11

    Average

    Not an old chestnut but an actual result of a chaiman acting like a fan. I know some Leeds fans well where I live and speaking of chestnuts whilst talking to one over Christmas drinks he had no joy in him at all at the state of his club and wasn’t looking forward with any hope either. Far less happy than I was and bad as Ashley is he would have him over Cellino .

    Not linking in Pompey as others have as I do not know enough about them or Rangers come to that to assess whether it was mismanagement by Chairmen acting as fans which contributed to their downfall.

    Perhaps you should consider switching your allegience to a “proper” club for real fans like QPR until Ashley has left us.

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  • tequilamag

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #12

    Magscar, well written post sadly there is little room for seeing issues in context. A lot will depend on what the next financial figures due in Feb show.
    The business model was to finance the club through income rather than borrowing. It was only last the season before last when we broke even on operating profits.
    I don`t think MA has been using the club as a cash cow but then he has not really been able to. The next set of figures will show a large profit. It is this and future profits are spent that will answer the question of the limits of Ash ambition for the club

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  • JP...from The Rock

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #13

    Think we’ll draw, these days i expect nothing better. We play shite football and struggle with the worst teams every year. So depressing this club and i can see Carver getting the job beyond the summer which would make me feel even worse about the club.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #14

    Jimmy and his possy…I just give up! I don’t know where you are going ot coming from – is it about your right to go to games or have season tickets?

    …you know some people don’t like changes – for instance if you have gone to games all your life with either your dad ot friends. Giving something up like that is hard!

    …you will convince yourself about anything to keep that going! Opinions are alright, but the truth is that is all they are…unless they are backed with something more!

    I am with firebug on tho one…pointless having a discussion with you guys about this.

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  • firebug666

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #15

    Magscar

    We all agree that everyone is entitled to their opinion, and we all enjoy debate, you say:

    Neither I (nor Jimmy, Slank and others who hold the minority expressed view on here) need to be lectured on our stance.

    By that same high moral standard neither do we who hold the opposite view.

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  • Ian Toon

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #16

    Mr Tuff- People are fundamentally self interested; not quite the same as being selfish. Reading your post and a lifetime following the toon suggests not a lack of hope but a sense of boredom of diminished possibilities.

    Newcastle is a club that has existed without winning a domestic trophy for sixty years and you can’t lay that at Ashley’s door. Ashley has not
    drained the City’s historic achievements.

    Charlie’s- earlier post told it as it was under Hall/ Shepherd. The difference and saving grace was the atmosphere, quality of the football and the exciting feeling going to SJP.

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #17

    If we cant beat Hull who are woeful at the moment and dont have any fit strikers apart from some misfit they just signed yesterday then we deserve to go down

    We are almost at full strength in terms of attacking players and a midfield 3 of Abeid , Sissoko and Colback is our best combination I know people say Tiote but he is poor on the ball I think our ball retention will be much better today if Abeid plays hell we might even get some more goals from midfield

    My only worry against Hull is Sone Aluko he terrorised us last season when he played and has pace to burn which Colo and Willo might struggle with but the likes of Cabella , Janmaat and Haidara should be able to get at Hull in the wide areas

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  • firebug666

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #18

    santonthenewmaldini

    It’s times like this we miss the inept one, he could have had Sone Aluko head butted in the first 15 minutes…Ah well!

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  • SUTTY1978

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #19

    Has anyone thought that appointing Carver is a cheap way to get rid of him and possibly some of the other back room boys at the end of the season. He had a long term contract as a coach, now he has a short term contract as a head coach. At the end of the season there’s no golden handshake, no payoff, just get your sh*t and get out. Also could be the case with the shuffling of some of the other coaching staff.
    Paves the way for a new head coach and new backroom team.

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #20

    Ian Toon
    Your last para is spot on: atmosphere, ‘quality of the football and the exciting feeling going to SJP’
    BUT:
    We couldn’t keep going like that as the club was heading for bankruptcy.

    If I remember Shepherd had already used the following seasons sponsorship money and went to the bank for a loan for the club which I think they offered him a loan at 11% above the going rate interest.

    The club have no chance in trying to keep up with the Chelsea and Man Cities of this World. If we did would the players want to come to the North East – I think not they want to live in London and Manchester.

    Maybe something in-between would be the answer spending a bit more but not going over the top – and trying to win the FA Cup, League Cup.

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  • tequilamag

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #21

    Santonthe new Carver will have some choices to make now players are coming back from injury. How he sets the team up will be interesting

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  • Small World

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #22

    magscar // Jan 31, 2015 at 9:51 AM @3
    Ian Toon // Jan 31, 2015 at 10:16 AM @16

    Spot on – I could have these very words myself myself

    stuart no9 // Jan 31, 2015 at 10:07 AM @10

    “the reasson why ashly is still here is because of those fans who still attend every game NOT because of the fans who decided to stay away , we are not his customers”

    – There is an argument to be had there, however is it not the armchair brigade who pay their sky TV subs who are funding Ashley and are his prime demographic. We’re at a point now where the club could operate without any gate receipts. TV subs are the reasons why the likes of Ashley have got involved in the game (and the subsequent advertising that is sent to millions of TV viewers)

    Most folks I know who attend all of the games go not even because of force of habit, rather simply to watch a game win. lose or draw and have some skin in the game by watching “their” team. Its called being a football supporter.

    I’ve seen a lot better timers than these and a lot worse and that never put me off going.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #23

    Since 2000 we have had 45 12:45 kick offs

    We’ve lost 21 of those

    Can’t see Carver bucking that trend, would be nice to see the lad get 3 points and a bit of confidence but seeing as Carver has spent most the week talking about how he wants a long term contract despite the fact he’s yet to register a win i just can’t see it

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  • stuart no9

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #24

    sutty—— good point there mate , there could well be something in that. his old contract has now expired and a new one in place till end of season . that gives ashley the ammo he needs to get rid . ashley works in srange and deceiving ways so who knows .

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  • Obertan's better than Messi

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #25

    If Carver can keep us mid-table then the jobs his.

    He’s already shown he’s prepared to lie to the fans on behalf of the club, with his “strong team” FA Cup press conference before he made seven changes.

    That is all that is required.
    He’s cheap, prepared to spin the fans and is happy just to be a coach of a club with no ambition.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #26

    Ian Toon – your first paragraph -haven’t a clue what you’re on about. Please explain!

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  • stuart no9

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #27

    small world—–”-Most folks I know who attend all of the games go not even because of force of habit, rather simply to watch a game win. lose or draw and have some skin in the game by watching “their” team. Its called being a football supporter” ——– i said this in an earlier quote they go just to watch a game .. and yes you are right , they are football supporters , but are they

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  • stuart no9

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #28

    small world , but are they NUFC supporters ? now thats debatable .

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  • SUTTY1978

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #29

    Stuart, apparently that was one of the issues with bringing Garde in, he wanted his own guys, not Carver & Co. (Can’t really blame him!). I wouldn’t be surprised at a full change in the summer, perhaps that’s just me being optimistic….

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  • stuart no9

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #30

    sutty—– valid point.

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  • Obertan's better than Messi

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #31

    Ashley can just reduce ticket prices and offers to families and kids.
    They don’t protest or call him a fb.
    Cheap, affordable, mid-table guaranteed … there is nothing to support but 50000 will be there every match if he has to give the tickets away with pairs of SD trainers.

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  • firebug666

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #32

    SUTTY1978

    That would be a great scenario, unfortunately from what we know of Jabba the Hut and his band of miscreants it is unlikely to be the reason.

    They are more likely to keep John (Oooo Ooooo Pick me Pick me) Carver because he is singing to their tune.

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  • Small World

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #33

    stuart no9 // Jan 31, 2015 at 10:35 AM @28

    When I go to the game I support NUFC. I could alternatively sit at home watching sky and decide I want to watch another team. In the privacy of my own home I could also nip over to the wardrobe and pull on the other teams colours whilst I’m at it.

    There’s two type of folks at all matches I go to. Our supporters and theirs. There’s a lot more types of supporters to be found on this blog!

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #34

    could we really not even get dele alli, concha and mere over the line.

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  • firebug666

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #35

    Rotonda

    We were never even trying for them, We make an enquiry, leak that to the media and the tickets get sold job done. Same every year.

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  • Average_Contents

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #36

    So the club not striving to win something is good for the fans because it doesn’t set them up for disappointment? No, just NO.

    And the people who have decided to make some sort of stand against the fat slug by not turning up are a disgrace? I beg to differ.

    They are quite possibly two of the most idiotic statements I’ve ever had the displeasure to read. Anywhere. Ever.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #37

    Spanish players have 2 contracts (A and B)- Jorge Mere was offered while a B team player for 12 million dollars , because he’s played first team footy (A team) Gijon now want 25 million Euros – too much methinks

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  • firebug666

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #38

    Average

    Are you making a reference to garden animals there? 😀

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  • magscar

    Jan 31, 2015 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #40

    Firebugg
    Only lecturing I think was on use of puerile language. Don’t feel any need to apologise for seeking to bring a more adult style to a blog maintained by a bloke of a similar age and measured posts to start the ball rolling.

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