This Is John Carver’s Biggest Asset By Far


One of John Carver’s jobs when he was assistant manager to Alan Pardew, was he was responsible for the team spirit in the squad, and over the four years Alan Pardew was manager team spirit was good in the dressing room.

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John Carver – caretaker manager at Newcastle

The other thing John has always been good at is working with the layers on the training field, and he took a lot of the training sessions when Alan Pardew was here.

And since John Carver took over from Pardew after he left for his former club Crystal Palace, it’s obvious that the players are right behind him, and even  want him to become the new head coach at Newcastle.

So when John says there’s nothing more he likes doing than coaching the players, we can see that.

And certainly he seems to have been able to bring the best out of some of the players already, with Remy Cabella coming through well, and we were surprised at how well Vurnon Anita played yesterday – another player who John has playing well for us of late.

So working with the players and bringing the best out of them is something John is very good at.

But whether he can start to get the results at Newcastle is still an open question, and after all it was our first win in five games since John has been in charge of the side.

Almost 90% of fans don’t want to see John as the new head coach this summer, but we do think that Charnley and Carr will want John and the rest of the coaching staff to stay on when the new coach does come in.

That can be both good and bad.

Good because it will allow for a smoother transition for the new coach, since the players know how John and Steve Stone operate.

But most top coaches want to bring in their own people – coaches they have worked with successfully in the past.

So if Newcastle do want to retain Carver and Stone and Beardsley at the club, that could limit the number of coaches who would be willing to accept the job.

We think Steve McClaren would work under those conditions and constraints, which is why we think he’s the most likely to take over – although 86% of readers in our poll don’t want the former England manager as the new head coach on Tyneside.

And apparently he’s pretty close with Chief Scout Graham Carr too.

If Derby County are promoted in May, Steve wouldn’t take the job, and then the question becomes who will come in.

It could be John Carver, but he would have to do very well in the last 15 games of the season to be offered the  job.

Carver would have to get close to 30 points to be offered the job, and that would mean he got 34 points in the 19 league games he was in charge of – half a season – and that would have been 68 points over the full season.

After the Everton game Newcastle had 26 points after our first 19 games of the season, so Alan left exactly half way though the season in terms of games played.

We’d be happy enough to see Frank de Boer, Remi Garde or Christophe Galtier come in – but with Newcastle – you just never know what will happen.

What do you think?

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64 comments so far

  • Dennis Twice

    Feb 1, 2015 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #1

    Attck Toon attack attack!

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Feb 1, 2015 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #2

    The only place you get anything like the old atmosphere is supporting the lads away
    Lovely to see Dummy in the crowd
    Can’t think of many EPL clubs where that would happen

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  • the white tino

    Feb 1, 2015 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #3

    And why do you think the atmosphere has gone at home?? Fat slug suckin life out of club and blatantly bleeding it dry

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  • mattnufc

    Feb 1, 2015 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #4

    Noticed we are no longer pumping every free kick to Williamson – give Carver the job!

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  • Vask

    Feb 1, 2015 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #5

    I don’t think the atmosphere has been the same since the Stadium extension. Although there had been some canny atmospheres at st james’ since, I just don’t think the consistency in atmosphere is the same in the big stadium.

    Coupled with the changing demographic of football audiences I just don’t think we’ll ever witness the consistent loud atmosphere the 36, 000 closely packed geordie men used to create.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Feb 1, 2015 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #6

    the white tino // Feb 1, 2015 at 11:38 AM

    And why do you think the atmosphere has gone at home?? Fat slug suckin life out of club and blatantly bleeding it dry
    A bit of a simplistic view
    The Sky era in general has changed the demographic of crowds in all stadiums not just SJP, more kids , more women , more like a family day out whereas away games are still a laddish event

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Feb 1, 2015 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #7

    Vask – snap

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  • the white tino

    Feb 1, 2015 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #8

    The atmosphere can’t be helped by a owner who has no ambition for the club and past managers who were quite clearly only yes men with face firmly planted down Ashleys pants

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Feb 1, 2015 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #9

    We still need to work our play through midfield so many times we just lumped it to Perez and because of his work rate you know he will chase it but its a waste of a player

    Trying Sissoko as the most offensive midfielder does not always work as he does not have the touch or the passing ability to work in tight spaces it would be much better for Cabella to play in between the lines in tighter games it would suit Sissoko to either float about wide or play further back where there is more space to run into

    Would love to see a front 4 of Cisse , Perez , Sammy and Cabella with the 3 rotating behind Cisse who would always stay in the middle for the tap ins might actually happen against Stoke

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  • optimistic prime

    Feb 1, 2015 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #10

    Plenty of players go to matches with fans.

    It’s nothing new Gardener was at the derby with the SMB fans, he even got the metro there with them.

    Clarkey sat with his mates wearing a SMB top over 20yr ago at FA cup final.

    It’s more of a regular thing than people make out.

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  • the white tino

    Feb 1, 2015 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #11

    Jeff you trying to tell me the atmosphere wouldn’t be 100% better if we had owners like shitty or chelski that would actually try and build a winning entertaining team??

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Feb 1, 2015 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #12

    santonthenewmaldini

    Remember Siem de Jong should make a big difference

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  • Vask

    Feb 1, 2015 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #13

    Obviously there have been some changes to where the fans are placed. The level 7 ‘singing section’ became dispersed and scattered about but that is still a bit moot due to the fact that a section is still going to be quieter than four sides of cacophonic chanting.

    The stand which has the most noise comes from now (apart from the away section) is the gallowgate. It could be just a coincidence that this is an undeveloped part of the stadium?

    So in that respect you could argue that ‘fat slug the first’ killed the atmosphere.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Feb 1, 2015 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #14

    The atmosphere still kicks off when we play well now.We haven’t got Mansour or Abramovich so there’s no point crying about it. There’s some folk woud blame Ashley for the Irish troubles , the Vietnam War and the Holocaust if they could .

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Feb 1, 2015 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #15

    @Jeff from Benwell

    Oh yeah totally but I think it may take him a good while to be match fit and even then we should ease him in if we can

    Would actually love a front 5 with him in it as well and just Sissoko or Colback as the defensive mid lol

    Actually think De Jong will score a fair whack of goals he is great in the air and thrives on crosses which I think Sammy could deliver a few peaches for him to head in

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  • the white tino

    Feb 1, 2015 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #16

    Jeff the atmosphere could be like that EVERY home game if we had a team that could compete not one that’s sole intention is to stay in premiership all alot of fans would ask is to have a good strong team we have an owner who’s wealth has at least tripled since buying us yet we still scrapping around for bargain basement buys bit like his tatty sports direct shite

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  • Rotonda heights

    Feb 1, 2015 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #17

    some very good and measured points there jeff

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  • hibbit

    Feb 1, 2015 at 12:08 PM

    Comment #18

    it’s not just st james were the atmosphere has died a lot of clubs are having this problem but watching better football would help

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  • Rotonda heights

    Feb 1, 2015 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #19

    i feel a bit sorry for palace fans. they have some really good tricky, skilful and fast players, especially strikers, but yesterday they played an awful lot of long balls and it was pretty attritional stuff at times.

    i enjoyed watching us yesterday for the first time in an age, albeit against a very poor team.

    One thing Carver has done is put some emphasis on attack and getting forward and it’s the second time we’ve scored 3 in a match

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  • hibbit

    Feb 1, 2015 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #20

    rotonda i thought that myself some good intelligent comments that are worth reading i like this new jeff

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  • JDdubai

    Feb 1, 2015 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #21

    Think when our players are back in a few weeks we should go with.

    Krul
    Janmaat-Willo-Dummett-Haidara
    Sissoko-Abeid/Colback
    Cabella-SDJ-Sammy/Aarons/Perez
    Cissi

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  • hibbit

    Feb 1, 2015 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #22

    i keep reading how poor hull were and they were poor but we needed a win and some of our players needed game time in a winning team

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  • Vask

    Feb 1, 2015 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #23

    I still think yesterday was quite a poor game in parts, like that period in the second half where it was just head tennis for 10 minutes.

    My favourite piece of play was Haidara; whipped in ball from the left which Perez got on the End of. The cross reminded me a little of James Milner’s against Palermo. Perez’s heading technique to get the ball directed on target at that pace and angle was almost exceptional.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Feb 1, 2015 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #24

    Shearers Everton volley won the poll

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  • tequilamag

    Feb 1, 2015 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #25

    JDdub the old 4351 formation. like it. Lets hope the ref and opposition don`t count how many players we have on the pitch

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Feb 1, 2015 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #26

    JD too much rugby league methinks

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  • Rotonda heights

    Feb 1, 2015 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #27

    in a ”pass and move” system you can see players previously written off like cabella and anita come in to their own.

    I think the problem was Carr bought technical players which wasn’t pardew’s forte.

    Surprisingly Carver seems more receptive to playing to their strengths which was not something I had envisaged

    Would have been nice to see if JC could have got MYM and now maybe others to emerge.

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  • optimistic prime

    Feb 1, 2015 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #28

    Liverpool want to install a 4.5m-high privacy screen at their Melwood training ground to prevent confidential team details leaking out before matches and have applied for planning permission from Liverpool City Council.

    The king must be giving Rodgers advice or he’s just as paranoid.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Feb 1, 2015 at 12:47 PM

    Comment #29

    Embarrassingly, the original planning application by Manchester-based AFL Architects was ruled invalid by the council because it did not include a £195 application fee.
    Talk about tight fisted
    Liverpool worse than the Toon

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Feb 1, 2015 at 12:49 PM

    Comment #30

    Say in the next few weeks we do start playing even more attacking and pass and move football and winning games by 2 or more goals what would peoples opinions of Carver then?

    A question would have to be asked with him and Stone being the coaching staff under Pardew why we could not play like that under him before ??

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  • optimistic prime

    Feb 1, 2015 at 12:58 PM

    Comment #31

    I wonder if the slugs at Celtic Rangers today.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Feb 1, 2015 at 1:00 PM

    Comment #32

    Ed mention that he thinks McClaren would be the only one willingly to work under those conditions and constraints highlighted up top – who do you reckon?

    …does McClaren have a track record stating such?

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  • JDdubai

    Feb 1, 2015 at 1:06 PM

    Comment #33

    The / marks in my team are either/or.

    I can count.

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  • Our Toon

    Feb 1, 2015 at 1:08 PM

    Comment #34

    Santon

    The saying us you can only beat what’s in front of you but come on mate let’s not get carried away. We beat arguably the worst team in the league yesterday at this current time. If that had been any other team we’d be going in 2-0 down at half time.

    I said yesterday I wouldn’t get carried away because as a performance that was poor by us and absolutely shocking by them. Huddlestone and Livermore were atrocious.

    I’m happy for Cabella but against a half decent team we’d get punished time after time….he lost the ball 9 times in the first 30 mins of the game. It’s quite laughable that he’s being lauded, very good goal but he needs to improve big time.

    Sissoko looked like he couldn’t be bothered that is the worst I’ve seen him play for some time. Can’t wait for the window to close and for this lad to mentally have his mind on us.

    Colback….now the hype has died down the ginger Pirlo hasn’t had a very good start to 2015, I was surprised to here Anita get stick from our fans yet no one mentions this lad….disappeared for the 1st half and wasn’t much better in the 2nd half….think Abeid should replace him upon his return.

    Anita….2nd best player on the pitch for me, was the only midfielder who was responsible and did the defending and covering whilst the other 2 were awol. Very impressed with him.

    Colo needs to have a good look at himself, good clearance off the line but apart from that he was very poor.

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  • JDdubai

    Feb 1, 2015 at 1:08 PM

    Comment #35

    If u see between the defenders i put the – sign

    Between colback and abeid i put the / sign.

    Same with the LW options.

    I misjudged the audience on here clearly, will simplify it next time guys.

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  • beermonkey

    Feb 1, 2015 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #36

    santon

    if carver deserves the he deserves the job and will prob get it
    the problem is he will be in such a weak position that it would be to the determent of the team at least a new bloke coming in can ask demand that he get some new defenders before the we buy ur players regime kicks in

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  • optimistic prime

    Feb 1, 2015 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #37

    Jesper

    IMO we’ll go for a foreign coach in the summer, the way the club is set up it looks the most likely.

    I maybe wrong but I’m sure the slug has more chance of finding a cheaper coach abroad than at home, and it’s all about money.

    Surely French Dutch and even the German managers or coaches can’t be on any where near average EPL manager wages.

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  • Our Toon

    Feb 1, 2015 at 1:12 PM

    Comment #38

    Those asking for Colback to sit defensively please come off it, he’s a pressing midfielder at best and for the position a ball winner is needed, prime example is Arsenal, they have many presses in that midfield but no ball winners….that’s why they get punished time after time and why there fans wanted a ball winner for so long….he certainly the return of coqilan.

    Colback needs to be dropped, if that had been Tiote or Gouffran 90% of you would have been up in arms at just how poor this lad was

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  • Our Toon

    Feb 1, 2015 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #39

    Oh and Haidara head and shoulders above anyone on the pitch yesterday in my opinion

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  • JDdubai

    Feb 1, 2015 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #40

    Ourtoon

    Agree about haidara, the fact Pardew had Dummett at LB ahead of him for so long shows how much of an idiot he was.

    Pardew too scared, took the CB to defend at LB instead of a modern attacking fullback.

    Happy to see Jc put Dummett at Cb and brought Haidara and Cabella in.

    2 big plus points in JCs column for me.

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