Legend – Geordies Running The Club Will Make The Difference


When Newcastle fans are down in the mouth, as most of us are this morning after another transfer window passes by without a single penny being spent to strengthen the squad, we can always rely on Peter Beardsley to tell us everything is going to be great at Newcastle.

carver callum roberts and Peter Beardsley

Three Geordies in a row
After Callum Roberts signed his first pro contract for Newcastle


And true to form – this is what Peter Beardsley – a true Newcastle legend in his playing days – had to say in the Chronicle when asked if Geordies being put in charge of the club – like John Carver, Graham Carr, Steve Stone and Peter himself – could make the difference at Newcastle:

“I think the club, certainly under Lee Charnley, are looking very much at that.”  “He knows what the club means to me, to Graham (Carr) and obviously to ‘JC’. It’s unquestionable for ‘JC’ when you look at what he is doing for the club.”

“We all have to go away at certain times but ultimately if somebody said to me I would be involved at this club for the next 10 years, I wouldn’t want to do anything else. It is my life and I absolutely love it.”

“I have the perfect job, Ben Dawson and I work well together. We have a great team behind the scenes.”  “It’s a brilliant club. I went away to play for Liverpool and Everton but there is no club like home.”

“I was at Leicester to see Callum make his first team debut and it was great to see. I keep telling them what I do isn’t for my benefit, it’s for theirs.”  “But I get a massive buzz out of it when I see them playing in the first team.”

“The more the merrier.” “We now have a few youngsters who have a chance. It’s a long time since we have had a situation like this.”

“To be fair to Alan Pardew he has been good at promoting young players but we now have a chance of players, long-term, being in the first team and I mean playing 50-100 games.”

“That for me is being a first team player, when you’ve done that you are a proper player.”  “And I think we have a few who have a chance of doing that now.”

“My bonus is seeing players like Callum Roberts coming through is my reward to see them get in the first team. That’s all I am interested in.”

In his playing career Peter played for 11 clubs in all, and he went out to Canada at the Vancouver White Caps in 1982 – after playing three seasons at Carlisle United – and by his own admission, he was a late developer.

Peter had his first spell at Newcastle from 1983-1987 (147 appearances 61 goals), after being at Manchester United for a year,  and before joining Liverpool in 1987, where he played 131 times with 46 goals.

We were also a selling club in those days.

peter beardsley in first spell at newcastle 1984

Peter Beardsley in first spell at Newcastle

He returned to Newcastle in 1993 when Kevin Keegan was manager and played for the next four years with the Entertainers (129 appearances and 47 goals).

His complete record at Newcastle United was 276 total appearances with 108 goals – not a bad record at all.

In his overall playing career Peter played a massive 753 games with 237 goals,

And that’s close to the total number of games the great Alan Shearer played in his career – 734 total appearances with 379 goals.

They are both true Newcastle United legends.

We just hope Peter is right in what he says about the future for Newcastle under Geordie control.

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190 comments so far

  • 70TWO

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #1

    grem1983 – why own 9% of very little profit when you can scupper the ship with no danger of loosing the assets, because he already ‘owns’ it, then buy up the whole sha-bang at a very depleted rate? (This is what he has done numerous times before, in the retail/manufacturing sector)

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  • Slank

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #2

    Lil (from previous posts)

    I said that the Under 21/Reserve right fullback should be the understudy to Janmaat and not an ersatz fullback like Anita.

    I quoted Mbabu as I thought he was the Under 21/Reserve fullback but the principle remains the same that a specialist right back should understudy the first choice right back.

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  • Scubadivingmagpie

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #3

    I have to be honest in the Santon and his girlfriend situation if the club don’t want him then they are going to accept offers for him and try to get him out the door. The shameful part of that transfer is it was just to save a few pounds that the club didn’t need to save! A totally baffling and pointless move, if they needed the money to avoid administration or for another player like the one they couldn’t get over the line after they sold Mbwia in the Summer I could understand – it just seems so pointless.

    It’s quite obvious the only thing Mike Jabba Ashley likes less than NUFC is a gap between meals, but the support that local boys Charnley and Carr give him is crazy. There is doubting Carr loves the club, Charnley I’m not so sure and I don’t care as his hands are as dirty as Jabbas…But an explanation as to point of any of the transfer window business would be nice. I get the fact if young people aren’t playing loan them out, but five to Rangers an Ashley funded regime all too dodgy. Imagine in a couple of years….Rangers have managed to do all right in the Champions League (probably won’t happen as they rarely stay in for long) and NUFC are comfortable in the league. What players would they consider loaning to Rangers then? A bad precedent has been set here in my opinion and the least the supporters of both clubs can expect is an explanation.

    And as for Geordies running the club making a difference: Lee Charnley & Graham Carr to of the most influential people in the club for a while now….I don’t see what positive difference it has made. In his interview he pretty much said any player has his price but were difficult sellers, but when we buy someone we have to take squad numbers into account, 25% of our squad is under 21 so it doesn’t count…Local boys aren’t making a great difference for me.

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  • 70TWO

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #4

    CHLOE SANDERSONS BLACK N WHITE ARMY!!!!

    Its not football – its a business

    Free the Rangers 5

    Any other slogans for this band of renegade NUFC supporting financiers?

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  • Slank

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #5

    Ed,

    Geordies (Hall and Shepherd and their families) running the club made a difference to their pockets and bank balances.

    They stole millions from the club.

    Surely you are not advocating a repeat ?

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  • hibbit

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #6

    peter beardsley was one of a small band of world class players to pull on a black and white shirt loved him as a player but now he is puppet of ashley rolled out when need to preach the party line JUDAS

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  • the white tino

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #7

    There’s some very wealthy geordies out there would be a dream come true to see a few of them get together and buy the club and allow the supporters to buy into the club ala Barcelona Win win for everyone I think problem is getting enough multi millionaires to chip in

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  • 70TWO

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #8

    Scubadivingmagpie – all I heard was “Blub blub blub. Blub blub blub”!

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #9

    Lilongwe…maybe he or she would step forward if they could see we were worth saving!

    …right now we are just contend with cheap Season tickets…and bitching and moaning at each other.

    If we took some of the blame and started doing something, maybe that would set something in motion? Maybe that person would step forward then ????

    Lets do something shall we (and I don’t mean take our kids to SJP)

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  • Average_Contents

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #10

    70two

    At first I thought he’s got himself in the door to exploit a struggling brand and to advertise more shite defect for his own personal benefit and to make the shareholders of SD happy.

    Now after all that’s gone on I’m leaning towards another theory – he’s gone in supplying loans against assets to keep them afloat with most of their merchandising thrown in thus positioned himself in a place of power, opened the door in effect.

    In come SD who have paid off the slugs personal debt owed by rangers in the form of another loan and managed to negotiate for said loan, a much better deal for themselves on the merchandising (they now own 75%) and secured it against rangers assets which were previously secured against his personal loan (some were but not the training facilities) so now they’ve got all the assets bar Ibrox in THEIR name, THEY control the merchandising which benefits them and because of their two £5m loans they can nominate two board members. No doubt owl heed and leech who the slugs already got.

    In short. He’s opened them up for SD to run.

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  • magscar

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #11

    Repost

    Ibiza @50 previous thread

    Many don’t disagree but all are waiting for a unifying figure to form a group that can actually make a difference to Ashley’s hold ( and without him then leaving in us a worse state as a parting shot).

    The only person I can remotely think could fill the bill is a former charismatic player without attachment to regime. We all know that is never going to happen.

    Watch what Rangers fans can do with the advantage of forewarning and see if there is any similar workable strategy for us. Our fan base is in total disarray and shellshocked at present after over 7 years of Ashley.

    Some may call it defeatist but I prefer realist and I keep trying to find some joy hard though that is.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #12

    I’m sick of hearing the business argument.

    Ashley does not run the club better due to his business acumen but purely down to luck. The luck being the huge new TV deal which was coming into play not long after he took over.

    He is a man who oversaw a relegation in a season where he appointed some terrible managers.

    He is a man who can’t sell advertising space at a premier league club. (well he simply won’t sell it, just takes it).

    He has come in and our debt has doubled from 70mil to 140mil (down to 129 now) but with no plan to pay it off, just hovers there over our heads.

    This is not good business by him, all prem league clubs have to comply with FFP and they all do (only man city have been fined)….there are lots of others clubs who sell AND buy players, try to improve and ultimately entertain whilst running a tight ship.

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  • Scubadivingmagpie

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #13

    70TWO @ 8 checking your plumbing or turn your your volume down then as this is all text, you read it. No sounds required!!

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  • magscar

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #14

    The days when nouveau rich business men could buy their boyhood club and turn it into the champions ala JackWalket are long gone.

    Any former players are not going to waste their accumulated wealth on a dream at least at this stage.

    Come the crash they may consider the battered body of a club is capable of being revived more than some others and pick up a bargain. About as much hope I can raise on that scenario happening

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  • hibbit

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #15

    the biggest problem is we are divided no fight in us

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  • Slank

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #16

    the white tino @ 7

    You are right there are some wealthy Geordies (Frank Williams, Barratt family etc) but they as far as I can tell never stepped into the ring when the opportunity presented itself a few years ago possibly because they knew better than taking on a poisoned chalice only to get grief from all the ungrateful fans.

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  • 70TWO

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #17

    Average_Contents

    Rather than a theory, your description is accurate, Rangers are now at the whim of SD / Ashley and what ever happens to the club they have the assets. My point is only that a lot of posters are saying the Rangers 5 wages will still be being covered by NUFC, whereas my theory is that by ‘forcing’ them into the squad the £10M Ashley loan will be depleted quicker and he will have more authority to make decisions about Rangers for his own benefit.

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  • the white tino

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #18

    Slank could be different tho if a figurehead was found and six or seven wealthy geordies chipped in 40-50 million plus getting local businesses on board once it’s rolling wonder where it could go??

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  • croftus5678

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #19

    @11 magscar

    i still honestly think rangers will end up like us !

    they said they would never accept ashley yet he’s got his foot in the door without too much hassle tbh.
    they say the sfa wont put up with it but he’s found a way around it by having partners.
    and there fans love their club just like we do ! so its ok us all knowing it cant go on but if you <3 something you cant just abandon it so easily to make a point.

    we all hope rangers can lead the way but maybe we should be asking a different question and playing ashley at his own game ?

    when he first took over in many interviews he said the club would be self sufficient (fair enough) and it has been….far too self sufficient that i dont see where the money is disapeering ? we need to see if we do have money from the club and put him on the spot with the question in the public eye as to why we are not strengthening those vital areas we need to get champs footy.

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  • Slank

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #20

    magscar

    You are right that the days when nouveau rich business men could buy their boyhood club and turn it into the champions like Jack Walker are long gone.

    One of the reasons Jack Walker could do it was that there were no constraints on how much he could spend on players. The same applied to when Abramovich and the Mansour family originally bought Chelsea and Man City but times have now changed and both these clubs cannot spend freely.

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  • 70TWO

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #21

    Can but hope that the accumulated profit from this season and next will pay off the Ashley ‘debt’ that NUFC owe then at the end of 2016 (as predicted) someone is able to buy the club for less than £200M making a 25% profit for our current owner.

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  • magscar

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #22

    Slank

    That is the irony. Most monied Geordie’s couldn’t see any financial benefit and are not known for their altruistic tendencies but a Southerner sees the potential money signs steps in makes mistakes and yet begins to turn a profit.

    I am sick of saying that Ashley (as yet!)has not done anything to solely annoy fans. He doesn’t factor in our opinions anymore ( tried and miserably failed with Shearer and Keegan appointments – his fault).

    My off recurring fear is that if a successful campaign is mounted(don’t ask me how) it may end up being a pyhrric victory as his ruthless reaction kicks into to our long lasting detriment when he no longer needs the asset. Not an argument for there not being a campaign more a point to be factored in to it ad far as strategy goes.

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  • beermonkey

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #23

    sage

    if you take the new tv deal out of picture its taken him 6 years to get the club to make around 5 mll profit

    all he has done in that time to achieve this is slash the wage bill those out going players have been replaced with cheap foreign imports
    lets not forget he has also taken revenue from the club in the form merchandising and match day revenue

    its all basic business save cash you slash wages

    the tv cash didn’t feature in his original plan which is why we wont see any of it, in terms of players we have a full squad and that’s all he cares about were well down on quality but as we only meant to play 40 games a season its all that’s needed

    with all the extr cash in the league average players will command bigger fee’s and wages and it wont belong before we are left behind unless our academy start producing around 2 squad players a season or unless he starts to let us spend what the club has earned

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  • magscar

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #24

    Croftus

    Quite agree. I was momentarily impressed with their £1land strategy in SD stores but it was a false dawn. As i have said before think relying on bodies like SFA is clutching at straws. There is much traditionally in Football that when challenged in courts crumbles. Ashley’s legal team are not to be treated lightly.

    Not agreeing just an observation.

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  • 70TWO

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #25

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/feb/03/gabriel-paulista-kevin-kampl-10-best-transfers-worldwide

    This article shows what we all know already, good players can be brought for £11M if the club are positive and have the right environment. Simplistic but for £22M we could have got a defender, winger and attacker.

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  • 70TWO

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #26

    * defender (loan)

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  • jimiley

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #27

    The club is on a found financial footing and we should thank Mr Ashley for that. We cannot challenge for the top 4 (and their are already six candidates for that spot) without investing 100 million with no guarantee of getting even 4th. Why should Mr Ashley spend do much of his own money with no guarantee of success? Our future is secure and we should be content with mid to lower mid table. We are not a big club in world terms. We never win anything and never will. We should be content with survival.

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  • sickandtired

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #28

    Relegated once. One finish at 5th. One finish where we barely scraped 10th. No cup or euro competition. That is the reality of what this owner has given us in 8 years. Peter and JC just seem to be like all the other deluded in believing their love for the club actually means anything at all to the fat man.

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  • croftus5678

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #29

    @27 jimiley

    hehe i doubt anyone will bite buddy lol.

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  • RandR

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #30

    jesper, Lil,

    Any charismatic figurehead who steps forward will be on a one-way trip to crucifixion. No-one can make their opinion heard, until your opinion just “occurs” to them (see above). Then it is THEIR opinion, wat they thought of all by themselves.
    For anyone born since 1975, Ashley’s way is the way the world works. It’s all they get in the media, at school, and at work. Anything that doesn’t make a profit is a priori worthless. So complaining that Ashley is making money from Newcastle is like complaining that he washes behind his ears and cleans his teeth. It makes no sense to many of them.
    And they all “know” that their only role in life is to work and passively consume.
    There are not “52,000 season ticket holders.” The missing thousands are largely replaced by one adult with kids paying a fiver each for a day trip. And those who think they are guaranteed top ten football for their cheap ticket. In other words, they have a reason to buy.
    They, or JFA, or Slank, or Ian Toon or P are not what’s wrong with the club. So people calling each other “shyte talkers”, morons and mongs isn’t going to win any hearts and minds. It is self-indulgent. We do need to recover a sense of ourselves as a single fan base which supports Newcastle, and not as partisans of Ashley, or Pardew or their opponents. We have been divided and ruled. And as long as we all waste our time saying “agree with you mate, but can I just take issue with you on……” it will never amount to more than wind and pee, no matter who tries to lead.
    This will be two threads back when I press the submit button.

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  • stan anderson

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #31

    Well said Jim Illey you sound like a sensible type to me.

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  • the white tino

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #32

    Jimiley your a joke not that long ago before Ashley we were up and around the top clubs now after years of his badly running of club were competing with Leicester west Bromwich villa burnley etc just to stay in league your a clown Jimiley and sounds like a slug trail licker

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  • Average_Contents

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #33

    70two

    I wouldn’t put it past the slimy slug to pay himself the profits from the club but then not take it off the loan owed to him. What’s to stop him doing it. Nothing.

    Then he decides to sell for what he wants with the loan included in the asking price. Making near double what he’d get if he just paid the loan off out of profits and sold at a reasonable price.

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  • magscar

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #34

    Slank@20

    Yeah I like many put too much faith in FFP restoring a level playing field where the top of the league could feature such as us Norwich Villa etc as in 90’s.

    Big clubs took various measures to avoid too many penalties – overstock in advance and loan out surplus players, get some creative accountancy strategies etc and their hold on CL gravy train is disappointingly reinforced not loosened.

    Yet another bullet to bite on. Countries’ F A administrations remain concerned at “big clubs” breaking away into a European league with their own TV rights so won’t get too punishing.

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  • toon kk

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #35

    MA has saved our club, we’re on a good financial footing, SJP is full. We do enough to stay in the premier league.
    Mash just wants his loan back to help struggling Rangers.

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  • JAMSHA(CARVER SLAYER)

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #36

    Hatem Ben Arfa will decide today whether to
    retire from football after being denied
    permission to play for Nice this season after his
    move from Newcastle.

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  • magscar

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #37

    BandB@30 for surely it is she

    A healthy dose of reality as you often but not always indulge in. Good luck with it – your profile perhaps might let it sneak through some of the barricades.

    Intriguing change of Username.

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  • stan anderson

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #38

    This blog needs to get real and shut up about Ashley,s greed.
    Why cant you see the light lads,we have a wealthy owner and we can make him even wealthier by buying tickets for matches and buying the S D goods he flogs.
    Not forgetting the pies on match days as we watch the Toon.HAHAHAHAHAHA.

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  • Average_Contents

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #39

    The white tino

    You may not of noticed 😉 but jimilys posts are laced in that much sarcasm it’s created a vacuum around the globe.

    He’s on the wind-up in other words lol.

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  • lesh

    Feb 3, 2015 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #40

    Beardsley’s delusional if he doesn’t realise that we couid have a million Geordies behind the scenes, ‘running the Club’ as he would have it, but as long as Ashley’s in control, it’s going to continue going down the pan.

    We’re at the point where Ashley’s failure to invest in the Club to take it forward has made it a virtual untouchable for any player or coach with any ambition.

    We are no longer a draw, a Club that good and potentially good players and coaches to come to – witness de Boer and the others who’ve decided not to join us.

    Any new owner’s (please god make it happen soon) will have to start from scratch, begin s total rebuild which’ll take years.

    Sadly, Newcastle United’s credibility is rock bottom, thanks to Ashley’s unbridled greed.

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