Remi Streete’s Loan Likely To Be Disallowed – Here’s Why


Ben Arfa as we know was not allowed to play for Nice this season,  because he had already played for two clubs this season – 9 games for Hull City and one single game for the Newcastle U21 side, which FIFA said was an official game, as far as they were concerned.

Remie Streete   +Sheffield+Wednesday+v+Newcastle+m8QFTySjcKhl

Remie Streete – in action in pre-season at Sheffield Wednesday
Remie’s case seems the same as Ben Arfa’s


And while Nice appealed that decision and even had backing from the English FA – who said they didn’t consider U21 games in England to be official games –  FIFA still dismissed the appeal and Ben Arfa announced today he had left Nice.

Remie Street as far as we can see, is in the exact same predicament as the Frenchman, and he’s played three games on loan at Port Vale this season, and a number of games for the Newcastle U21 side – certainly more than one.

The Scottish FA like the English FA consider only first team games as official games so as far as we can see – Ben Arfa’s case and Remie Streete’s case are exactly the same.

We are almost certain the Remie Streete loan move will be invalidated by FIFA, and while a player is allowed to register for three clubs in a season, he can only play for two clubs – so Remie could technically register for Rangers FC but not play for their first team this season – but what good is that?

This is what the 20 year-old has said about the loan move:

“It’s all signed from my end.” “I think different federations in different countries have different rules. I know France stopped the Ben Arfa one but from what I’ve read on the internet and been told from my agent the Scottish FA have allowed me to make the transfer. So hopefully it should be fine.”

But the French Football Federation didn’t stop the Ben Arfa loan move – FIFA did – and it would be strange if they don’t step in and stop this one.

Let’s put it this way –  if  Remie’s loan is allowed then Ben Arfa and Nice would have a strong appeal to FIFA to overturn the ruling that was made against them.

There’s also another case in January that we have just heard about – Chelsea’s 20 year-old  midfielder/defender  Nathaniel Chalobah played for Chelsea’s  U-21 side this season and also four games  for the Burnley first team – and therefore a January move to Bordeaux fell through, when it was ruled that he had already played for two clubs.

You would have expected that Newcastle would have approached FIFA and been given the OK on Streete’s loan before the loan was agreed to, and before the transfer window closed last night.

We hope that’s what they did, but if they didn’t then it’s another case of Newcastle not thinking things through thoroughly enough.

Let’s hope the deal stays put, but if it’s disallowed, in retrospect we could have sent 21 year-old Australian International center-back Curtis Goode on loan to Rangers yesterday.

And just like we kept Curtis at the club for cover, we could have kept Remie Streete at Newcastle – since we only have two experienced center-backs in Fab Coloccini and Mike Williamson available for the rest of the season. 🙁

More poor planning be Newcastle.

If it gets overturned and Remie is not allowed to play on loan for Rangers, we could even send him back to Port Vale on loan, and have a clause in there that Newcastle could recall him if Colo or Willo were injured before the end of the season.

We hope the deal is OK for the sake of both Remie and Rangers FC – since the lad is a terrific up-and coming center-back – but we cannot see why it would be OK with there being two precedents already over the last month.

In legal circles precedents are always key.

Comments welcome.

You can follow us on our three social media sites below:



You can share this articleShare on FacebookShare on Google+Tweet about this on TwitterEmail this to someonePin on PinterestDigg thisShare on LinkedInShare on RedditShare on Tumblr

138 comments so far

  • cyprus

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:02 PM

    Comment #1

    HBA rules. The new coach will have him back in the summer. Cabella, HBA in the same team, ripping opposition apart.

    0
  • optimistic prime

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:03 PM

    Comment #2
  • WWSBRD

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:20 PM

    Comment #3

    Maybe he can go to Russia with fatem then?

    0
  • Jeff from Benwell

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:22 PM

    Comment #4

    More poor planning be Newcastle.

    NO IT’S NOT

    UNDER 21 GAMES DON’T COUNT IN SCOTLAND

    Next item please

    0
  • AncientC

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:22 PM

    Comment #5

    I would like to believe the Ben Arfa’s religion of choice had no bearing on the decision to block him playing for Nice.

    Something seems to be amiss about it all.

    0
  • p

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:22 PM

    Comment #6

    Ed, if you read nufc.com you would have seen Streete’s contract ends in June so, looks like NUFC do not see him as up and coming.

    Interesting though, I think Llambias is more behind this than Mash. Sees an opportunity to strengthen the team for the price of wages which will more than likely get them promoted at which point they can purchase players for the longer term (at least not loanees).

    LC was probably receptive to this as they get 5 wages off the books for 6 months but, since those wages are likely insignificant, it’s probably more about giving those guys first team exposure and doing Lambeezee a favor.

    0
  • WWSBRD

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:29 PM

    Comment #7

    p
    In fairness so does Sammy’s and he’s a first team regular when fit

    Streete is highly thought of by accounts he’s just always injured so might be the thinking behind his lack of contract

    0
  • p

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:36 PM

    Comment #8

    yes, I was aware of Sammy.

    I am surprised. Do we know whether he wants more than the club will give him or, they just don’t know whether they want him.

    Not sure he’ll ever be a world beater but he is a good squad players, offers something quite different with those gangly, unpredictable, tinoesque legs.

    0
  • haaaahhhh

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:38 PM

    Comment #9

    Can anyone explain to me why Darren bent appears to have played for 3 clubs this season?

    0
  • 70TWO

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:40 PM

    Comment #10

    Regarding dual ownership:

    “…..during the Vladimir Romanov era at Hearts, several loanees arrived from another of his clubs, FBK Kaunas of Lithuania…..” LT

    I did wonder if this was perhaps the case but then thought it unlikely. However the only remission would be if Romanov had gained written approval from the SFA before taking ownership of Hearts. Ashley must know they have not got a leg to stand on.

    Regarding players running out for more than two teams, there have been mentions of a few individuals that would seemingly fall foul of this FIFA ruling. Looks like they will be busy fining teams prior to the election to get the money into their bank accounts and before it all gets cleaned up (if ever).

    0
  • 9

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:42 PM

    Comment #11

    WWSBRD:
    Don’t know anything at all about Streete, but if you’re right, and he’s injury prone, that would make 2 of the Rangers crew in the same boat: I used to think Vucic was a tremendous prospect, but I’ve come to accept he’ll never realise his potential through injury-prone-ness.

    At least these two lads’ problems are physical, unlike our friend Mr Ben Arfa!

    0
  • Canny in Canberra

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:42 PM

    Comment #12

    Ancient C
    Isn’t it a sad thing that the lads religion would even be thought of. Sorry state of the world we live in.
    Maybe we can get him back playing under different management, get his head space right and back to the brilliance we all know his capable of.

    0
  • Canny in Canberra

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:44 PM

    Comment #13

    WWSBRD
    I’ve always thought this injury crisis we face every second week is something not right at the club. Maybe they’ll fair better. Could be a good illustration if indeed there is something amiss with our training regime.

    0
  • Canny in Canberra

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:45 PM

    Comment #14

    Maybe they’ll fair better at Rangers, I meant.

    0
  • 9

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:46 PM

    Comment #15

    Kieron Dyer was another one.

    0
  • WWSBRD

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:47 PM

    Comment #16

    p
    Last I read mate Newcastle hadn’t offered him a new contract because they thought he wasn’t worth it…I think he’s proved that to be incorrect and should be getting a decent contract

    9
    Aye Vuckic was meant to be the next big thing once but kid is made of glass. Streete has been touted since he was 15 but he’s always injured from what I can tell, he could come good but I doubt it

    0
  • Average_Contents

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:48 PM

    Comment #17

    What did I say earlier? Exactly this lol.

    Streete seems to be confused. It’s not upto the Scottish FA and it wasn’t the French FA who stopped the HBA transfer, (the French and English FA tried to make it happen) it was FIFA. Clearly he and his friends haven’t researched it to the extent they claim. Unless it’s different if it’s inside of the UK.

    So it’s not an emergency loan so there’s no special dispensation.

    It’s not because he’s under-21. Strange.

    0
  • AncientC

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:51 PM

    Comment #18

    Canny in Canberra – In regards to Ben Arfa; unfortunately that ship has sailed.

    I have been following Newcastle since the early 90s, and have never seen such a waste of talent, which I base on mismanagement.

    0
  • WWSBRD

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:52 PM

    Comment #19

    Canny
    Maybe we just breed them weak up here? Honestly don’t know mate not sure how I feel about the Rangers 2nd team

    Not sure how Rangers fans will feel about it either

    0
  • lesh

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:52 PM

    Comment #20

    Yes, one would have expected that Newcastle would have approached FIFA before arranging Remy’s loan – especially as the Ben Arfa decision was made beforehand.

    However and given Ashley’s growing obsession with money it appears his approach to deals is ‘aim, fire, ready’ – in other words, deal with the detail after the finances have been sorted out. Haven’t we seen that before?

    The man’s determination to cut costs is beyond a joke and this is another misjudgement to add to the ever-increasing list.

    0
  • lesh

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:53 PM

    Comment #21

    And why, when we’re desperate for CB cover, has Remi been even considered expendable?

    Money perhaps?

    0
  • lesh

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:57 PM

    Comment #22

    70TWO

    You must know by now that Ashley knows bugger all about owt – apart from the serial number of every banknote ever produced!

    0
  • Average_Contents

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:58 PM

    Comment #23

    Jeff

    They might not, just as the English FA don’t.

    But crucially and this might be hard for you to understand because how dare anyone stop your slug, FIFA do.

    0
  • p

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:58 PM

    Comment #24

    AC – on Ben Arfa – when every manager/coach tha thas worked with him has fallen out with the player, you have to start wondering whether it is the player and not “mismanagement”.

    Lesh – Streete is obviously not considered good enough otherwise he would have got a new deal and would not be out on load. Simple as. His wages are unlikely to even hit the accountant’s radar screen.

    0
  • Canny in Canberra

    Feb 3, 2015 at 8:59 PM

    Comment #25

    WWSBRD
    They aren’t all Bred in the North East. Must be faulty when we get them!Lol

    0
  • p

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:02 PM

    Comment #26

    lack of vitamin D in Newcastle, that is the problem

    0
  • welshgeordie9

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:03 PM

    Comment #27

    If and when Ashley takes over rangers, i wonder if he will give the manager big money to spend to sign players like sissoko, perez, Aarons, and de jong for example to go with the others they have just signed.

    0
  • Average_Contents

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:05 PM

    Comment #28

    Lesh

    I asked the very same thing yesterday. He’s the only CB who’s been tipped to step up, trained with the 1st team and travelled with them to matches. He even got recalled from Port Vale to provide cover. I know let’s loan him out.

    Someone tried to justify Santon going on loan to Inter yesterday by saying Mbabu could and should be cover for janmaat otherwise what was the point in the under-21’s. Then this morning they said there’s nothing wrong with loaning the “rangers five” out, it’ll be good for them and our club. Bonkers.

    0
  • Canny in Canberra

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:05 PM

    Comment #29

    P.
    All those stories about fall out with managers from the media, i’d take with a pinch of salt.
    They want to sell papers and most cases exaggerate things and the rest of the time flat out make shit up. We are never really getting the full story about any of this but it does seem a bit of a repeat pattern you’re right there

    0
  • Jeff from Benwell

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:06 PM

    Comment #30

    Average_Contents /
    At times I wish Blatter would stop a slug

    0
  • welshgeordie9

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:08 PM

    Comment #31

    Some people on here need to relax, how about one of my awesome jokes.

    Anyone.

    0
  • lesh

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:08 PM

    Comment #32

    Off topic but Rednapp’s left QPR to have surgery carried out on his knees. Suppose it’s best he gets them seen to before somebody else does them!

    But, given the urgency to have his knees fixed, could he be the one lined up to be parachuted into SJP to ‘assist’ Carver if things look a bit shakey and relegation threatens?

    0
  • AncientC

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:09 PM

    Comment #33

    P – Deschamps’ wanted to keep Ben Arfa at Marseilles.

    Prior to playing for Pardew, yes, Ben Arfa was deemed temperamental, but he was wanted at the clubs he played for.

    Strange that Pardew is the only manager that could not deal with him. Is that because Pardew knows what he is doing, when it comes to dealing with prodigy type players?

    0
  • welshgeordie9

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:10 PM

    Comment #34

    i will come back on here in 30 minutes time to entertain because I’m so bored with what’s happening to this club, I want to cheer myself up.

    0
  • Average_Contents

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:10 PM

    Comment #35

    p

    By AC did you mean me? I haven’t mentioned HBA apart from his none transfer.

    0
  • lesh

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:12 PM

    Comment #36

    Average_Contents

    There’s nowt Ashley does now that beggars belief.

    He’s treating NUFC like a toy to be played with without worrying about damaging it.

    0
  • scout

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:13 PM

    Comment #37

    I have no doubt whatsoever if any bid came in for sissoko, tiote or perez he would have sold them 100%.
    This man would fuxx up a cup of coffee. People who say we’re sitting good financially, we should be after continually spending nowt.
    Nothing clever about it, well become a yo yo club eventually. Graham Carrs luck will run out soon.

    0
  • WWSBRD

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:13 PM

    Comment #38

    Canny
    Haha true but half of them are well u know French

    0
  • Average_Contents

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:13 PM

    Comment #39

    Sorry, my bad. Just seen AncientC’s post.

    0
  • lesh

    Feb 3, 2015 at 9:14 PM

    Comment #40

    welshgeordie9

    If you want cheering up, tell yourself a joke – then you might just appreciate what us poor sods’ve got to put up with!

    😉

    0

You must log in to post a comment.