He’s One Of The Best Coaches I’ve Ever Worked With


In his press conference today for the game at Palace on Wednesday night, John Carver was full of praise for former manager Alan Pardew, and said he was a real coach, really hands-on and John learned so much from him – especially how to handle things in adversity.

alan pardew with assistant boss john carver

John Carver with Alan Pardew at Newcastle

And we suppose they had enough opportunities to handle adversity – because we did have our fair share of that over the last four years.

This is what John said when the game at Selhurst Park was mentioned, and that he would be meeting his former boss:

“We speak on a regular basis, we text each other nearly every other day, we are good friends and to be honest I didn’t know him before I came back to the club.”

“He’s given me the opportunity to come back here so I’m entirely grateful for that, but we are good friends –  he’s been fantastic to work with and I’ve learned so much from him.”

“How to deal with things in adversity is one of the biggest things, but what I have to say is I’ve worked with a lot of top coaches and managers,  and he’s certainly one of the best coaches I’ve actually been on the training pitch with.”

“And that’s saying something, and that’s being respectful to everybody else and he was such a hands on manager he was a coach, but he trusted me when he wasn’t there to get on with things – and I did.”

“It doesn’t surprise the impact he has had with his fantastic record at Palace – four wins of five in the league and a cup game”

In fact Alan has two cup wins at Dover and Southampton, and he’s won three games out of four in the Premier League for an overall record of five wins in his first six games in charge at Selhurst Park.

But John Carver also said we have a good record at Selhurst Park, and we did win in the League Cup earlier in the season after extra time, and he hopes we can get the win.

Don’t we all.

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157 comments so far

  • Graeme

    Feb 9, 2015 at 4:52 PM

    Comment #1

    I bet Palace and Pardew are rubbing their hands in glee at the prospect of turning us over on Wednesday.

    After yesterdays performance, they must fancy their chances!!

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Feb 9, 2015 at 4:54 PM

    Comment #2

    5toonarmydownsouth // Feb 9, 2015 at 4:36 PM

    NUFC unlucky?
    JC shows good man management skills?

    Have you started working for the chronicle?

    We were not unlucky, we were p1ss poor and a draw was a deserved result
    The attack was isolated, the defence disorganised and the midfields passing was a shambles
    Failed to finish chances and failed to clear danger time and time again

    If we’re talking about management skills, then how the hell can it be claimed he’s demonstrated good skills, or any skills for that matter

    Stoke had there weakest CB pairing available, we went with one upfront
    He persisted with Sammy, took off the only player barring Perez looking to make things happen
    Fully agree with Obertan coming on but a blind monkey could of seen Sammy had to come off, Cabella wasn’t showing disrespect for his team mate, but sheer frustration at the ridiculous decision to hoy him off the field, with the backing of near on the entire stadium

    And in all honesty John “ave i mentioned ama geordie yet” Carver is the last f**king person who should be shouting the odds about respect and professionalism

    The worst thing that could happen to us now is securing a 10th place finish becuase we’d be stuck with this sh1t for the foreseeable future

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  • Lindisfarne

    Feb 9, 2015 at 4:54 PM

    Comment #3

    Team for CPalace:
    ——————Cisse
    ———-Cabella—–Perez
    —–Colback—Anita—Abeid
    Haidara-Dummett-Collo-Janmaat
    ——————–Krul

    Carver needs to try something new and to snuff out their midfield supply line. Some of the players that have been playing every match need to be given a rest like Perez, Sissoko, Colback, Janmaat but as there is no match at the weekend they should recover before the match. Sissoko and Perez have particularly looked flat recently.

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  • Ron Knee

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:03 PM

    Comment #4

    Perhaps it’s a good thing we didn’t get the three points. A narrow win would have flattered our poor performance yesterday. At the moment we’re little better than Pardew Mk II.

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  • fray bentos

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:11 PM

    Comment #5

    Can see Palace beating us easily, he’s a decent manager with a lower team, will make many of the mugs on here eat their words

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:12 PM

    Comment #6

    In my experience if you have befriended someone in your line of work – someone you might respect, then you would of course speak highly of him or her!

    …that said, what worries me here is if AP was that good how come we were left with 4 years of really bad football!

    Will that mean the rest of the team were up to no good? 😉

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:14 PM

    Comment #7

    @5
    Based on what?
    Carvers canny sh1te but has the exact same jan points total as Pardew did
    As for “mugs”, the only mugs are the ones who were more than happy with Pardew

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  • toonking

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:15 PM

    Comment #8

    anyone fancy giving big fat sam a second chance.

    southampton, everton and manchester united have been in the oppositions half less often, they do more long balls as well.

    Perhaps he’s learnt his lesson and now understands what it means to be in the oppositions half, plus he’s an english manager just what cashley is looking for.

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/15115/9707114/premier-league-louis-van-gaals-long-ball-pragmatism-can-only-take-manchester-united-so-far

    http://www.whoscored.com/Regions/252/Tournaments/2/Seasons/4311/Stages/9155/TeamStatistics/England-Premier-League-2014-2015

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  • Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:15 PM

    Comment #9

    Sick of listening to Carver already.

    On Cisse, no we should not be giving him more playing time. His build up play is beyond woeful, he’s a very poor footballer in general. Much more suited to coming on and nicking goals against tired legs. The one chance he has to turn and run yesterday he messed it up comically, moved forward at a snails pace, completely ignored the Obertan run into space on his right and passed it inside behind Sissoko. It was beyond awful to watch.

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  • fray bentos

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:15 PM

    Comment #10

    Correction, the only mugs are the ones who thought Ashley would get anyone better than Pardew

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  • toonking

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:18 PM

    Comment #11

    geremi

    do you want him to start acting like cashley and remaining totally silent?

    yes he might not say what we want him to say but we the ones who don’t like being given total silence

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:19 PM

    Comment #12

    GPLF
    Was the interview about giving Pardew a cuddle the final straw? Or the one where he claims Pardew is up there with Wor Bobby?

    Either way it’s all just cringeworthy rubbish that he spews out

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #13

    fray bentos…I’ll promise you this much “it ain’t gonna happen”!

    …couldn’t be more thrilled to see the back of him!

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:21 PM

    Comment #14

    toonking
    Think you’ll find fans wanted clarity and honesty from the club in regards to the team
    Don’t remember anyone saying they sound bite after sound bite of aimless waffle from a yes man, we’ve had 4 years of that

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  • toonking

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:22 PM

    Comment #15

    we should all give big fat sam a second chance!

    southampton, everton and manchester united have all done more long balls than west ham have done this season!

    they’ve also spent more time in the opposition half.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:26 PM

    Comment #16

    I hope we beat Palace on Wednesday night -will put King Percy in his place. However, by Murphy’s Law/Sod’s Law Palace will probably beat us.
    If he’s fit I anticipate at some stage, King Percy will introduce Shola to give Willo and Colo a good battering.

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  • toonking

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:28 PM

    Comment #17

    TADS
    the trouble with giving clarity and honesty, that means speaking very negative or putting his job at risk.

    “we aren’t going to buy a new CB”

    “we won’t be aiming for europe”

    “we are not going to try winning a cup”

    “The owner is too greedy and won’t allow me to buy a player”

    “The owner won’t allow me to peerfom well”

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  • fray bentos

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:30 PM

    Comment #18

    Im not a big Pardew fan either but he’s developed into a manager who is good at getting results with poor players, I believe he will do very well with Palace, by keeping them in the premiership and getting good results using his defensive tactics

    Whether we get anyone better than him is very unlikely and even good managers have the risk of fucking up especially foreign ones, this decision should be chosen wisely, something Ashley is not able to do, scary times

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:36 PM

    Comment #19

    toonking
    Once again i said from the club, lip service from an under performing manager is not from the club, it’s waffle from an idiot who’s only interest is reminding everyone he should get the job because he’s one of us
    There’s always been press conference’s ahead of games, this isn’t what the fans were asking for in terms of opening lines of communication

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  • BandB

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:36 PM

    Comment #20

    I really hope all this talk of deep respect and hugs after play-time isn’t what’s being said on the training ground.
    This isn’t an jolly old boys’ reunion bash.
    Pardew will want to rub our noses in it. And I want to see us marmalize them.
    On the subject of Pards.
    Is anyone surprised he didn’t stick one on Nigel Pearson at the weekend?
    No? Me neither.

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  • Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:37 PM

    Comment #21

    Toonking

    No, I want him to stop self promoting and talking up issues that are clearly contentious.

    If he wants to talk he should be talking about what we’re trying to do to improve as a team, what he’s tweaked etc.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:40 PM

    Comment #22

    Toonking

    I think that long ball stat shows how pointless isolated stats are. Southampton may play long balls but have been fantastic to watch.

    Long balls aren’t a problem, it’s how you use them. If we had done then yesterday deep, down the flanks for perez to chase it would have been far more effective than lumping them up for him to challenge the centre backs.

    Stats are useful but only when using the complete picture, not just singlular stars like long ball….need a lot of context.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    Comment #23

    GPLF
    Sadly he can’t talk about that because he quiet simply hasn’t tweaked anything

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  • BoyDoneGood

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:52 PM

    Comment #24

    BandB
    Agreed. Why can’t the meatheads leave the players out of it. Cut out the middleman. Shame Carver’s not up for it – might be a better spectacle than the footballing fare. (I don’t mean that – I always like watching Gayle – hope we can contain him.)

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  • toon kk

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:54 PM

    Comment #25

    I wish people would see our squad for what it is, apart from half a dozen the rest are championship players at very best. We badly lack experience. We’re relying on kids, we desperately need a CF and and two quality CB.
    Everyone pointed at P45, although it was time for him to go but people we’re looking for someone to blame, wheres the protests against Mash, most seem to have excepted the regime.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:55 PM

    Comment #26

    Toon kk

    I’ve said similar. We have reasonable options in midfield and up top, some genuine quality but not outstanding.

    But the defence is shockingly bad.

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  • Munster Mag

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:56 PM

    Comment #27

    I reckon we could lose 3-0 . Pardew will show some of the experts here that he’s better than they could ever bring themselves to say. I sincerely hope we win as he has given me a pain in the bum since he left as my south London buddies are loving it.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Feb 9, 2015 at 5:57 PM

    Comment #28

    BandB
    It’s certainly being billed as a friendly reunion rather than us trying to show we’ve moved on and are still a force in the league

    Looking at our recruitment style it’s no big surprise, jobs for the boys and all that

    Seen recently Howey saying we should back Carver and he’d love to join his coaching staff, he was also suggesting Clark should be bought on board
    Makes you shudder really

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 9, 2015 at 6:00 PM

    Comment #29

    Tads

    Like it or not carver is here til the end of the season. Not what I want but he has said he wants to see us play good football so will give him til the end of the season to judge him.

    Much rather be was never given the job on the first place but there won’t be any change until at least the summer.

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  • BandB

    Feb 9, 2015 at 6:00 PM

    Comment #30

    TADS,

    But it’s not jobs for the boys.
    Charnley went out of his way to absolutely deny that in not one, but two of his recent statements.
    Methinks he doth protest too much…..

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Feb 9, 2015 at 6:01 PM

    Comment #31

    Munster
    How is he? Most here would agree he’s an average at best manager built for the lower half of the league
    What has he done to suggest otherwise? More to the point how would getting one over on his ex right hand man, his understudy, go towards suggesting that?

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 9, 2015 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #32

    BandB

    Didn’t Charnley get the promotion because he was also one of the boys?

    Man I do love how honest our club is with us, makes me feel reassured haha.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Feb 9, 2015 at 6:05 PM

    Comment #33

    Sage
    I’m fully aware we’re stuck with him until the summer not sure where I’ve suggested otherwise

    He has said he wants us to play good football, he hasn’t done anything to suggest he can get the team doing that
    I’m not going to judge him at the end of the season, it shouldn’t matter he should be gone
    But he won’t and I’ve seen enough of him to know what we’re getting, the same old rubbish churned out by AP

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  • optimistic prime

    Feb 9, 2015 at 6:07 PM

    Comment #34

    ITK Breaking news

    Carver for QPR

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  • BandB

    Feb 9, 2015 at 6:07 PM

    Comment #35

    Sage,

    Charnley is highly respected of all over the football world, apparently.
    And while I have no evidence that he isn’t, I’m not asserting that he isn’t.
    Though I would like to see the source references of those who insist he is.

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  • toonking

    Feb 9, 2015 at 6:08 PM

    Comment #36

    geremi

    the thing is we are attempting nothing to improve as a team, pardew himself had been reapeating lots of lies when he was saying we’ll bring in a player or the ones we sold will be replaced.

    I myself have gave up listening and reading quotes. these guys know this is their best chance to be a manager and are unlikely to get a better chance. We might hate the rubbish but, they don’t care what fans think, the important thing he’s done as he was told and therefore is awarded the job he wanted and we’ll just have to suffer until the fat b@stard leaves.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 9, 2015 at 6:11 PM

    Comment #37

    Tads

    Not suggesting you did. Just saying that 6 games isn’t much time for somebody to chane the style of a team. Granted as you say very little has changed but I’m willing to let him have a few months before saying how good/bad he is.

    Not that I want him to stay, unless he does exceptionally well.

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  • toon kk

    Feb 9, 2015 at 6:12 PM

    Comment #38

    Sissoko looks like his heart isn’t in it at the moment, I think there’s a lot of turmoil and unsettled players at our club.
    Everything seems a mess tbo.
    A draw yesterday was a great result actually going off our performance.

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  • BandB

    Feb 9, 2015 at 6:12 PM

    Comment #39

    TADS,

    I really wouldn’t like to see Carver or Charnley become new human shields for Ashley.
    Part of the re-aligning of the blog going on now is because the old blame Pardew or blame Ashley camps have been stripped of a handy whipping boy.
    If we start carving up Carver, there’s only one winner.
    Not that the things he says shouldn’t be scrutinized and held up to account when he says things like “not selling Sissoko is just like a new signing.”

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  • Graeme

    Feb 9, 2015 at 6:17 PM

    Comment #40

    OP @ 32 – We should be so lucky!!

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