Alan Pardew’s Comments Worry Newcastle Fans


If we didn’t know before last night’s game that Alan Pardew and John Carver have a mutual admiration  society going, then we do now, after the comments each manager made before the game last night.

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Alan Pardew and John Carver before the game last night

And then Alan Pardew had this to say after the game which ended in a stalemate at 1-1:

“I think John’s got the credentials to be a Premier League manager.” . “I look at other managers and see no difference with the qualities that John possesses.”

“I wish him all the best. I love him as a guy, as a colleague and as a friend, and that will never change.”

Although John Carver is  a Geordie, it seems that Newcastle fans would prefer a more experienced head coach brought in this summer, who has a proven record of success in getting the very best out of the players he has available.

And in our poll – with over 11,000 readers voting, close to 90% don’t want John as the new head coach of Newcastle.

Should John Carver Be The Head Coach At Newcastle?

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We still think John has some chance of getting the job, but his record will have to improve dramatically.

From his first six league games in charge, we have only 6 points, and now we start meeting the good teams like at Manchester City a week on Saturday. 🙁

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156 comments so far

  • Rotonda heights

    Feb 12, 2015 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #1

    Slow down Ed!!!

    Desperately poor match last night. Looked as if both teams had been ”Pardewed”

    I feel sorry for Palace fans as they have it all to come. Bolasie, Gayle, Pucheon , Zaha are all exciting creative players who all too soon will become stifled and turned into robotic, Gouffran clones.

    So Carver, is his own man, yeah right! ”Are you Pardew in disguise” was spot on. JC has made really, negative, risk free subs in virtually every game so far.

    With all the TV money now sloshing about and 50000 home fans, how much longer do we really have to tolerate random third raters like Carver, Stone and Woodman?.

    GPLF

    The soul of the club is dying on it’s feet, when ironically we’re now in the best financial shape ever.

    NUFC was the love of my life but she’s going out with someone else now.

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  • Klam3r

    Feb 12, 2015 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #2

    Rotonda

    “The soul of the club is dying on it’s feet, when ironically we’re now in the best financial shape ever.

    NUFC was the love of my life but she’s going out with someone else now.”

    I agree 100% with you. Spot on!

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  • Average_Contents

    Feb 12, 2015 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #3

    Vom.

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  • Average_Contents

    Feb 12, 2015 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #4

    That someone else is a greedy fat slug who kidnapped and then chained the love of your life up in the basement and feeds her scraps whilst she wallows in her own exexcrement.

    Despise him with a passion. Aaaaaaargh.

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  • SuperShearer

    Feb 12, 2015 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #5

    Ashley will have some thinking to do with this new TV deal. Other clubs in the league WILL spend that money in order to stay in the league. He has a chance to hire a head coach who wants to work in the biggest league in the world but will need an annual budget in order to keep the squad fresh. Either that or you risk dropping out of the league and then we’re up the creek.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Feb 12, 2015 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #6

    Cheers Klam,

    Sad days

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Feb 12, 2015 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #7

    Cardew, they’re only just warming up for Valentine’s day.

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  • Bambams

    Feb 12, 2015 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #8

    Ashley is going nowhere as long as the huge amount of money keeps coming in….
    I sometimes wonder if it would be better for us to drop a league just to get rid of them
    Our club is merely a vessel for Ashley to make more money.
    It’s odd that he will be remembered for making money and nothing else to do with football. Odd that for a football chairman/owner

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Feb 12, 2015 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #9

    Tuff, yes, it was good True Geordie’s post match rant. I’d seen him before a couple of times a while back but I’ve been subscribing of late. Most of what I’ve seen of his toon views seem to mirror my own.

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  • toon kk

    Feb 12, 2015 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #10

    There’s no way things can change dramaticly under Carver, we haven’t got the squad. Everyone pointed at P45 now at Carver, yes we could do better.
    we are poor.

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  • BandB

    Feb 12, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #11

    Since spinmeister Pardew left, both Carver and Charnley appear to have stepped up to the plate in a deliberate attempt to draw fire toward themselves.
    Both have made statements seemingly purpose-built to emphasize that if anything has changed, it is that “business as usual” now comes with knobs on.
    Both have made statements which seem calculated to further bewilder fans and keep them tearing their hair out, each of them carefully repeating and re-iterating the most controversial lines.

    Carver in particular has seemed from day one puzzlingly determined to “talk himself out of a job.”
    The latest example being his “Sissoko like a new signing” remarks and the love-in with Pardew. The toe-curling “hugs after the match” line was again carefully repeated, despite the criticism it was drawing from fans.

    We have 32 points now. None of the relegated teams are likely to end the season with much more than this.

    I think, that far from “talking himself out of a job”, Carver knows the football priority of staying in the division is pretty much done.
    He needs to prove his real worth. And that his ability to act as a decoy, drawing fire and attention away from his boss and keeping fan opinion from uniting on the real focus of the problem.
    Just as Pardew did.

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Feb 12, 2015 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #12

    Poor football has been engrained into the players for months/years by our previous manager and Carver was also involved with the struggle.

    At least Carver isn’t doing himself any favours with these games, which is good as otherwise he’d be definitely getting the job, if it hasn’t already been allocated to him anyway.

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  • croftus5678

    Feb 12, 2015 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #13

    last nights match was very poor and both sides looked rubbish ! not one of our players stood out and a draw was a very fair result in fact i’m supprised there was 2 goals in it tbh and its the first time apart from the cup game where i have been very disapointed with car’s sub’s as he was very negative.

    my motm was cisse but only because he did nothing wrong which is kinda sad for our team tbh and everyone else needs more practice on how to pass accuratly and not give the ball away so easily.

    tbf to carr he’s mostly been playing attacking footy so i aint going to shout for his head because he’s been very poor in 2 of his 6 games so far (and no i’m not counting his time when pards was suspended as pards obv was still the boss)

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  • mindshaft

    Feb 12, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #14

    Amazed Carver is happy with 1 win in 6
    He seems to think 6 points out of a possible 18 is a good result and good enough to get him the job ! We’ve drawn against stoke, palace and Burnley ffs and lost against Leicester in the cup – kin muppet

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Feb 12, 2015 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #15

    Someone the other day misunderstood what Scudamore said about the new deal
    Clubs will get about £10million every time they are televised
    60% of the games are pre-ordained as each clubs has a contracted minimum number of showings.
    It was the other 40% he was on about when referring to crowds
    This 40% will be chosen through many factors and one of them will be a full noisy stadium.
    Other factors will be, position in the league , derbies , new signings from outside , and what the Sky folk judge to be entertaining teams.
    At £10 million a throw ( roughly equivalent to a years season ticket dosh ) this can only be good for NUFC fans surely

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  • martoon

    Feb 12, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #16

    You cannot hide from the fact it was a p*ss poor game but you do get them – there is no need to start getting hysterical about it muttering “We’re doomed” in Frazer like fashion. The occasion and the pitch were contributing factors and considering most on here thought we would lose then surely a draw is a decent result?
    It’s very easy to say that Carver should have put on Dummett earlier and then we would not have conceded but then we all could be Premiership managers with 20-20 hindsight!

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  • Bambams

    Feb 12, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #17

    Carver might still get the job permanently. He is of course the cheapest option

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  • Mr Magpie

    Feb 12, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #18

    Under Carver the football is terrible, just like with Pardew! It’s the same coach with the same stale, old ideas & tactics.
    The passing is woeful, positioning bad, tje team has no tactical approach to the game, they are not playing to each others strengths as there is just no team ethic. It just appears to be a group of individuals running around aimlessly..as Mr Carver put it expressing themselves!!!
    Then as usual there is Williamson who was out of his depth & had no idea where Frazier Campbell was for the goal.

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  • sickandtired

    Feb 12, 2015 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #19

    If he gets any more ridiculous with his statements we should just have Harry Enfields ‘Pet’ Geordie wheeled out by the Club.

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  • stan anderson

    Feb 12, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #20

    We are stuck with another Puppet without hope of any change with the slimy slug sucking us dry.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Feb 12, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #21

    Get off Williamson’s case ffs
    It is such a symptom of the no nowt supporter , to pick on one individual
    If defenders didn’t occasionally get outwitted by attackers there would be no goals – doh
    You always no when you are talking to a dimwit fan when they say in the course of talking footy “aye but I cannot stand that ……. I hate him like”

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  • BandB

    Feb 12, 2015 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #22

    Almost since Ashley arrived at the club we have employed one member of staff whose role it is to act as agent provocateur and lightning rod for Ashley.
    Wise, Llambias, Pardew. Indeed, the re-employment of Kinnear appeared to serve no other purpose.
    Surrogate hate-figure seems to be a bona-fide position at the club.
    Carver isn’t talking himself out of a job.
    He’s talking his way into one.

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  • cyprus

    Feb 12, 2015 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #23

    Very poor game that we deserved to lose.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Feb 12, 2015 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #24

    martoon
    I actually thought Cisse should have been subbed at half-time
    Apart from a really good header (created by Janmaat btw) he was dreadful.
    It was the perfect opportunity to give Rivere a full 45 minutes

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  • Sleepin Giant

    Feb 12, 2015 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #25

    mindshaft

    6 points in 18 is just about survival form – it’ll give you 38 pts over a season. What more does Ashley want from his heid coach ?

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Feb 12, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #26

    Jeff
    I din’t know Cisse was playing until he scored – but that’s what you get from a lot of goalscorers do nowt all game but pop up in the right place at the right time.
    I like The Riviere Perez combination they linked up well against Burnley both got great movement and quick which frightens defences – BUT – Riviere has got to put the chances away when he gets them.
    My MOM was Janmaatt followed by Hiadara who is getting better every game.
    Would of took a draw before last nights game but in the end dissapointed we did not take all three.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Feb 12, 2015 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #27

    Aye ,
    That’s the other factor
    If Perez keeps having Cisse as a partner
    the kid’s going to be burnt out by 25

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  • Lindisfarne

    Feb 12, 2015 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #28

    martoon @16

    You are right except that it was obvious a substitution should have been made at half time and suggested by many. Carver believed in himself and trusted the team to ‘pull together’, where as the first half had shown little indication that would be the case. The state of the pitch was mentioned in relation to passing and therefore should have instigated a more cautious approach to the second half. Not singling out Perez as being at fault but he has been regressing slightly from being overplayed with less end product and as he was getting shunted of the ball a lot, it would have been ideal to swap him for a midfielder.

    The starting line up looked in danger of being over powered in midfield, especially as Sissoko has never really looked comfortable in a defensive role and although they were not overrun, there was not any control of the game or domination of a weaker opposition. In addition Sissoko has undoubtedly gone off the boil and would have served better coming on in the second half, with perhaps Anita continuing to keep his place as he has gained some confidence recently. Unfortunately this was not the case and despite four strikers being on the pitch we did not look like scoring, plus Gouffran popping up anywhere in the midfield to gain some sort of composure.

    I am not massively enraged by Carvers decision making but it has left a lot to be desired, he has tried to develop his own style of play that incorporates the abilities of the players and carefully reintroduced injured players. His six points from six games is not a success,but acceptable, however the performances have not really built the confidence of the players or a coherent playing philosophy.

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  • BandB

    Feb 12, 2015 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #29

    Jeff

    You wrote:

    “Other factors will be, POSITION IN THE LEAGUE , derbies , NEW SIGNINGS from outside , and what the Sky folk judge to be ENTERTAINING TEAMS.
    At £10 million a throw ( roughly equivalent to a years season ticket dosh ) this can only be good for NUFC fans surely?”

    It makes you wonder why last night’s top clash wasn’t televised.
    Are you sure “good” was the word you were searching for?

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  • Lindisfarne

    Feb 12, 2015 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #30

    BandB @11

    I like it whilst not doing his job, Carver is actually doing a job for the owner. Not very surreptitious but then again we are talking footballers and it is working! Exactly the opposite to Keegan and Hall who bathed in adulation, MA wishes to dilute the derision he receives and laughs at how easy it is to achieve.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Feb 12, 2015 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #31

    BandB
    On occasion you miss someone’s point by miles.
    Certainly I meant good . If Ashley is as greedy as you constantly bang on about, all those factors you highlight should be improved in the future at £10million a game.

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  • Sliema

    Feb 12, 2015 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #32

    Lindisfarn

    I’m so sick of you sugar coating the obvious pile of sh1te that we have witnessed for the last 6 games.

    Carver couldn’t have set the team up any less successfully if he’d tried. I honestly think that around 80% of readers could have gotten 6 points from these 6 games, and we certainly wouldn’t be giving up the ghost at 1-1 away to crystal effing palace.

    We had won 7 times in a row there. They are a relegation battle club, a small club, they are no Newcastle united that is for sure. We cannot go to a side below us in the league and accept a 1-1 draw. Not when our season is already looking like another waste of a year of our lives.

    This from a geordie too. He should be ashamed.

    As for what you said yesterday, that we started the game with 4 forwards, you are absolutely barking mad!!!!

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  • martoon

    Feb 12, 2015 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #33

    Jeff from Benwell @24 – I agree Cisse’s all round play had been poor but the lad scores goals! Are you seriously suggesting he should have been substituted less than 5 minutes after he had scored?
    Lindisfarne @28 – Yes there is an argument he could have made a change at half time but then again we were winning 1 – 0.

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  • BandB

    Feb 12, 2015 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #34

    Lindisfarne,

    Carver’s paen of praise for Pardew was interesting.
    When speaking of the things he had learned from the great man, his emphasis was very much on Pardew’s ability to ignore criticism.
    That and that alone seems to be the main quality he was suggesting fitted Pardew to the role of England boss.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Feb 12, 2015 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #35

    Charlie @26

    I have actually noticed Cisse has improved in his general play, not getting caught offside, controlling the ball (not always) and bringing others into play. He has been gradually reintroduced into the side and should be building up to a full game, but and despite his apparent dissatisfaction he should have been replaced at least by 60 mins and probably by Riviere, or even Perez if he had not started.

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  • Mr Magpie

    Feb 12, 2015 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #36

    Jeff….your right to be occasionally outwitted by strikers is normal, however to consistently be outwitted is a concern, to be out of position constantly is a concern, to panic everything the ball is passed to you & hoof it back to the opposition is a concern.
    If you believe Williamson is the right type of cb this club should be playing & are unable to see his inadequacy then that’s your view & you are entitled to it. However it’s not mine as i don’t think he is good enough for Newcastle, this though doesn’t make either you or me a better type of supporte…. It’s just an opinion.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Feb 12, 2015 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #37

    You plough a lonely furrow when working for Ashley.

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  • BandB

    Feb 12, 2015 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #38

    Jeff,

    I have spent several months making the point that calling Ashley greedy is hopelessly unproductive, as that quality merely appeals to big fans like yourself.
    He has a business model for Sports Direct which is now the business model for Newcastle United.
    I’m not sure I have missed your point at all. Unless it has some nonsensical logic not actually conveyed by the words you have chosen to use.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Feb 12, 2015 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #39

    Martoon
    So was what the excuse for game before palace? Or the one before that? Or the one before that!

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Feb 12, 2015 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #40

    Why the hell have the players been given a week off!

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