Sometimes You Need To Be Positive And Brave To Win Games

You cannot accuse John Carver of getting good results for Newcastle and in six league games we have one win and only six points, and in  addition we were beaten in the FA Cup at Leicester, after fielding  a very weak side.

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John Carver and Alan Pardew last night

So that’s hardly the stellar record Carver needs to get the head coach job permanently, but the polls we have run show that  close to 90% don’t want to see John Carver get the job permanently.

With six minutes to go in last night;s game John substituted Remy Cabella with Paul Dummett, and that was hardly  a move to take all three points with the score at 1-1,

This is what John said after the game tonight:

“Let me tell you something about the substitutions. Yannick Bolasie is a talented footballer and I worked with him every day at Plymouth.”

“I know what he can do, he is a talent. We saw it from his first touch, he shifted the ball quickly and they put in a quality ball into the box and scored from it.”

“I was concerned he would do it again and we would lose the game. So I had to do something about it.” “Sometimes you have to take off some of your flair players to see out the game and take something from it.”

“When I brought Dummett on it nullified Bolasie – so that is why I did it.” “I think I’m satisfied.”  “When the lads came in to see me after the warm-up they complained about the pitch.”

“They have just relaid it.” “It was quite lively so I knew we were not going to be able to get the ball down and play our passing game.”

“I thought we dealt with it, we dealt with the physicality of the opposition.” “When you look at how dominant Palace have been from set-plays, other than when Tim Krul made a world-class save from Hangeland, we did not really have any problems.”

“A fair result is a 1-1 draw.”

When did we ever worry about fairness in the result? 😀

Sometimes you have to be brave if you want to win a game, and in fact the odds are in your favor if you try to win a game.

By doing so you stand to lose one point by going for it, but there are two points to be gained.

So in four games if you go for the win and win two and lose two – you have still gained a couple of points by being brave and going for the win.

When only two points were given for a win there was less reason to  go for the win, because you gained one point but stood to lose one point too.

And if you want to be successful in anything,  you just have to be positive and that’s true for any job you are in.

Being negative or even timid never brought success to anyone, and that seems to be true in football too.

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30 comments so far

  • Blofal

    Feb 12, 2015 at 12:50 AM

    Comment #1

    I agree with Carver. We never looked like scoring even with Cabella, Perez, Gouffran and Cisse up front.

    They did look like scoring with Bolasie on. We had our most attacking side out from the start. Not much more we could do attacking wise. Better to save the point. Gaurantee we would have lost without nullifying Bolasie.

  • catchy in norway

    Feb 12, 2015 at 12:51 AM

    Comment #2

    carver still blowing p45

    protein dripping of his chin

  • ilovetoon8788

    Feb 12, 2015 at 12:54 AM

    Comment #3

    Looking at our remaining fixtures, unless we do an upset against one of the top teams with 3 points, we are going to be right in the thick of relegation battle.

    I think we’ll end up with 39 or 40 points exactly when season ends.

  • MacToon

    Feb 12, 2015 at 1:06 AM

    Comment #4

    Horse closing after the door has bolted the stable –

    Quote of the day:

    toonbrother // Feb 11, 2015 at 9:32 PM

    “How was that williamson;s fault?
    He was the ONLY player in the 6 yard box!”


  • Mister Tuff

    Feb 12, 2015 at 1:07 AM

    Comment #5

    LR – just checked out the True Geordie link ;- one of his better videos but he has it spot on in his assessment of the Toon.
    Really looking ahead, after the last two displays it is going to be a horrible run in to the end of the season – made worse by – nothing in the future at all to look forward to.

  • BennygivesmeTinglyBalls

    Feb 12, 2015 at 1:34 AM

    Comment #6

    Carver’s interview was disgusting, acting as if a draw was a good result and Pardew put some sort of spell on us. 1 win in 6 is not a good return you muppet, he clearly doesn’t give a toss about his reputation, he can’t be a true geordie as he says he is because he’s mugging us fans off completely. Anyone can see Williamson and Gouffran aren’t good enough to cut it, at least try and bed a few players into the team and show us a flavour of what Carver can offer. It’s exactly the same as last season, we had a chance for our techincal players to adapt in their best positions whilst there was nothing to play for e.g Mwbia, yet Pardew thought Williamson was the future, same again this season. All I’ve seen is “Pardew in disguise”. Joke, but why am I not surprised.

  • Our Toon

    Feb 12, 2015 at 1:46 AM

    Comment #7

    This is the same Williamson most of you voted as your player of the year last season!!

  • Brutooon

    Feb 12, 2015 at 1:57 AM

    Comment #8

    i never been a fan of williamson ever since we signed him.

    cant wait for him to retired or move elsewhere, cos he is the reason we NEVER be in the top 6.

  • Lindisfarne

    Feb 12, 2015 at 1:58 AM

    Comment #9

    1) If he knows so much about Yannick Bolasie why did he not bring a nulifying substitution on as soon as possible?

    2) If he knew passing the ball on the ground was going to be limited why was he gesturing to Cisse to do so after the looping cross to no one?

    3) C.Palace should be and have been consistently beaten by NUFC but they managed three shots on target to our one. How does that equate to dealing with?

    That is not even competing.

  • Lindisfarne

    Feb 12, 2015 at 2:03 AM

    Comment #10

    I feel sorry for Williamson as he should no longer be at the club, but for some reason the opportunity for him to leave with his reputation on a high has passed.

  • dexter53

    Feb 12, 2015 at 3:07 AM

    Comment #11

    Carver said he gets great advice from P45 for example…..dont spend every day on the training field. Relax,go play golf with your mates. Great advice if your winning the league or in a champions league qualifying spot. But we are not. We are sh@te. I would suggest actually spending MORE time on the trainin? field not less you , out of your depth,clown.Unbelievable that he even said that to the media.

  • swemag

    Feb 12, 2015 at 3:28 AM

    Comment #12


    If they gave us 39 points and no relegation today I would snap their hand off.

    Except for Chelsea we still have to play almost every team in the top ten. City, United, Tottenham, Arsenal, Liverpool…

    Can’t wait for this season to be over.

  • topmanz

    Feb 12, 2015 at 4:02 AM

    Comment #13

    Tbh I think the results would be worse if Pardew remains. By criticizing Craver overly we too are being negative. Craver has my support at this time as he is committed and giving his all to manage the team to pull it through. When the season end hopefully the team can restructure by bringing a better manager. And Williamson the first to go.

  • JDdubai

    Feb 12, 2015 at 4:34 AM

    Comment #14

    With every game it seems JC is distancing himself further from the job.

    Really dont get the point of last night’s subs, not willing to go for the win, fear factor is still here.

    However it has to be said, in the whole match we did sod all except for the goal, with 4 forwards on the pitch we created nothing.

    cant believe i stayed up til 3am to watch that, regrets now with 3 hours sleep and back at work.

  • Santon03

    Feb 12, 2015 at 4:40 AM

    Comment #15

    Hhahahaha, so… we are now expected to win all away games easily under Carver including away to Chelsea. News for you, we didn’t always win away games even under SBR. To be fair Carver got the job officially at Soton game. It’s a good result for us since we only have one shot at goal.
    It’s so easy to criticize when you are only watching from tv. I like the way we play under Carver just need more luck, if he can keep this up I don’t mind having him as permanent head coach.

  • scout

    Feb 12, 2015 at 5:43 AM

    Comment #16

    all hail bolasie a world class lad. What are you on John.
    Its aguero next I worked with him at city can turn on a sixpence, fear not though we have willo to stop him.

  • Reyantoon

    Feb 12, 2015 at 5:44 AM

    Comment #17

    I am not too unhappy about the result.It’s a good point away from home.Palace are in good form recently.So this is a precious point.A little worried that we could not hold on our lead for the third time under JC.That tells u that JC is not good enough for nu.As long I’m concerned and as long as we avoid relegation,I don’t care if we finish 16 or 17

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 12, 2015 at 5:48 AM

    Comment #18

    You liked the way we played last night? We didn’t create a single chance other than the goal!!

    A point isn’t a bad result away from home in the Prem. But the performance, and Carvers response to it were poor. It was clear to all and sundry after about 15 minutes that Perez was not going to get anywhere in the game. He should have been hooked just after half time of Abeid, and Sissoko should have played in the trio behind Cisse.

    Sissoko can’t play that midfield role. He does everything Tiote does, gets caught on the ball, gives away free kicks, but he can’t tackle. Other than his pass out to Janmaat, which was in a more advanced position anyway, he was poor last night.

    Willo completely lost his man for the goal, just before the cross comes in Willo can be seen looking for Campbell, but then allows him to drift further off him. A superb ball in, but Willo better placed cuts that out or, at the very least, makes it far harder for Campbell.

    All in all, a pretty dismal performance, Leicester created 19 shooting chances against a Palace defence at the weekend, we struggle to fashion more than 1. Not good enough. Carver was far too scared of losing, so he forgot that he could try to win.

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 12, 2015 at 6:03 AM

    Comment #19

    As for Bolasie being world class, and needing to nullify him, City are up next, and have a team of world class players. Better get that cloning machine out as we will need a team of Paul Dummets to nullify them!

    Altogether now;
    “We all dream of a team of Paul Dummets, a team of Paul Dummets a team of Paul Dummets”


    Feb 12, 2015 at 6:17 AM

    Comment #20

    carver out…the man is a negative manager… so he thinks a draw is fair with palace…wonder wat he thinks of teams,like man u, soth..etc guess a loss is fair…the man has no balls to play attacking football wen we are leadng…guess wat after every 1 goal v score wo gona see the same defensiv approach

  • JDdubai

    Feb 12, 2015 at 6:39 AM

    Comment #21


    Its a good point as we only had 1 shot at goal……

    Thats kind of the point, the result was ok but the performance and mentality was the same as under Pardew, defensive, no creativity despite the individuals on the pitch, 1 shot on goal in 90 mins against Palace.

    Its actually difficult to get only 1 shot on goal in the match with a team of 2 attacking FBs, Sissoko in CM and not 2 DMs and 4 attackers ahead of that.


    Agree with all that.

  • Shot Bru

    Feb 12, 2015 at 6:42 AM

    Comment #22

    John Carver as our Caretaker Head Coach says it all really!!!

    And to think we had Pardew before him!!!

    Please, just once in my lifetime, can we have some change in luck with regards to owners and head coaches, is this too much too ask?


    All we ever get are excuses, excuses and more excuses.

    How anyone could be happy with Carver getting the gig permanently is beyond me, never mind Pardew holding down his job here for endless years!!

    Just shows how mediocre half the teams are in the EPL when characters like these are conning a living from football in this country

  • Ron Knee

    Feb 12, 2015 at 7:12 AM

    Comment #23

    From what I saw of the match (poor internet link) it seems we’re actually starting to regress under Carver. That’s the worst performance I’ve seen for a very long time. We’re totally lacking in basic skills, purpose and confidence.

  • toonarmydownsouth

    Feb 12, 2015 at 7:14 AM

    Comment #24

    I didn’t go to the match as a point of principle

    However my dad did, as did my uncle

    As did several of my mates who are palace fans

    All of them have said it was hands down the worst performance from a supposed top flight team they have seen in a long long time

    What was there to like about the football exactly? We created one chance ffs
    We were all over the place with no rythm or accuracy in our passing, we need a bit more than luck

  • Keith in France

    Feb 12, 2015 at 7:20 AM

    Comment #25

    If Carver had gone for the win as some suggested (after Palace were in the accendency) and we had lost , imagine what the comments on this blog would have been then.
    Carver is , I think , doing his best with what he has got. Of course he wants to win games – that way he can put forward a persuasive argument to get the job full time.
    Sadly I don’t think that is going to happen- it would be great to have a Geordie as a manager.
    Of course we can take points off the top teams – we have done this already this season. Look , we are stuck with Carver until the end of the season and we can not change that.
    Let’s try to give him and the team our backing until then.

  • JDdubai

    Feb 12, 2015 at 7:33 AM

    Comment #26


    It wasnt just the last few minutes, the entire 90 minutes were horrendous.

    1 shot on goal. 1!!! With Cisse, Perez, Sissoko, Gouffran, Cabella playing and 2 attacking FBs.

    1 shot.

  • Ron Knee

    Feb 12, 2015 at 7:39 AM

    Comment #27

    I wouldn’t worry about undermining Carver’s morale. I’m sure he doesn’t read this blog!
    In terms of backing the team, that’s up to the supporters who go to matches. If I lived in Newcastle I doubt I’d go to SJP under the Cashley regime.

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 12, 2015 at 7:40 AM

    Comment #28

    The thing is, Palace were in the ascendency for the majority of the match. They looked by far the more dangerous throughout. Carver should have changed things far sooner, before they got their goal. He claims he knows how dangerous Bolasie is, yet waits till after he has done the damage to counter it. That is hindsight, not, as he appears to be claiming a tactical plan.

    Perez was wasted, he couldn’t get into the game, and never looked likely to. Sissoko was a total waste and terrible in that deeper midfield role, that was also clear from early on. One simple change, Abeid for Perez at the start of the second half would have instantly made us more solid, and allowed Sissoko to stretch the game at their end with his pace and running.

    It was a poor performance from the team, but also from Carver. The opportunity was there to influence proceedings, but he failed to act, and instead reacted after the event.

    However, as I said earlier an away point is a decent point in the majority of Prem matches.

  • firebug666

    Feb 12, 2015 at 7:41 AM

    Comment #29


    Your right; 90 minutes of total dross football, and the last 20 minutes were just hoofing the ball out of our half.

    I see nothing has changed since the inept one has left, if anything it has gotten worse.

    Carver is just not cut out to be a manager, head coach, or even a coach.

    The whole thing was appalling and the travelling fans should be given their money back.

    The form we are in now is relegation form, and people may find us in that position sooner than they think.

  • Harley

    Feb 12, 2015 at 8:11 AM

    Comment #30

    I honestly couldn’t care less if the manager is a Geordie or a Georgian. I just want a competent manager who can get the best out of this team. And carver has proved he isn’t that man.

    We are limping over the finish line and the only thing keeping me going is the thought of Ashley appointing a manager that will surprise us all and back him properly. Ridiculous I know !!


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