Newcastle’s Summer Boys Are Struggling

There are reports coming though that our two players at Nottingham Forest, 24 year-old goalkeeper Karl Darlow and 21 year-old center-back Jamaal Lascelles are not playing all that well at the moment.

Newcastle United Unveil New Signings Karl Darlow and Jamaal Lascelles

Karl Darlow and Jamaal Lascelles

Both recently lost their places in the  Forest side towards the end of the short reign of former manager Stuart Pearce.

Darlow started the game at bottom placed Blackpool on Saturday in preference to 34 year-old Dutch keeper Dorus de Vries, and Lascelles was brought on in place of the injured Jack Hobbs after 42 minutes.

And it was really late in the game when the Lee Clark managed Blackpool scored their equalizer, when substitute Ferguson scored seven minutes into stoppage time – otherwise it would have been three wins in a row for new manager Dougie Freedman.

At the time of their equalizer Blackpool were down to nine men following the sending off of Aldred and a late injury to Darren O’Dea.

Reports of the game say the pitch at Bloomfield Road was not good and was very bumpy.

But after the game Forest fans took to social media and were pleased they have already received £7M from Newcastle for Karl and Jamaal who didn’t have good games.

  • “Feel sorry for Newcastle getting Darlow and Lascelles.”
  • “I cannot see Lascelles or Darlow getting near the NUFC team next year. They’ll be loaned out again. Hopefully not to us again though.”
  • “£7million for Darlow and Lascelles…….what a genius piece of business, come and fetch them now .”

So you get the idea.

But you also have to think of the psychology of the situation and Forest fans were up in arms last summer when Newcastle signed the two of them, who had good seasons last term.

Also after a great start to the season Nottingham Forest have slumped badly, which is why Pearce was fired in early February by Fawaz Al-Hasawi and former Crystal Palace and Bolton manager Dougie Freedman brought in.

Fawaz Al-Hasawi has been the owner of Forest for only two and a half years, but Freedman is now his sixth manager at the club. 🙁

Jamaal has played for Forest 11 times this season and 49 games with three goals overall – Karl Darlow has played 26 times this season and 75 times overall for Forest (DeVries has played five games in goal this season).

Nottingham Forest have 41 points from 31 games and are in 10th place and 12 points off a play-off place.

Both Darlow and Lascelles will be welcomed to Newcastle in the summer,  and it will be a clean slate for the two of them to prove they can become good players for Newcastle.

We hope that’s what happens.

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36 comments so far

  • The overrated Frenchman

    Feb 16, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #1

    Dishonest, incompetent or most likely both – Carr out.

  • spitfire_

    Feb 16, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #2

    Their fans are just bitter. I remember what was the response after their transfers. Not even close to that.

  • Average_Contents

    Feb 16, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #3

    It’s ok ed they’ll fit right in with our budget squad. Happy days.

  • martoon

    Feb 16, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #4

    Ex Pat Mag – from last topic. I said the football has not been great and yes there have been some poor displays – too many in fact, However there have also been some good one’s against Chelsea & Liverpool twice spring immediately to mind. Is this not what being a supporter is all about? If you want to see a win every week then go and support City or Chelsea!

  • beermonkey

    Feb 16, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #5

    unless the new manager is going to play them we should have got them out

    I have a feeling pearce might have dropped them out spite he was not happy they were sold

  • toon kk

    Feb 16, 2015 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #6

    All our future signings will be mainly unheard of players with loan to Rangers and sell on value in mind. Which will eventually take us down.

  • The overrated Frenchman

    Feb 16, 2015 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #7

    Charnley the cheque-signer. Dishonest and incompetent. Charnley out.

  • geordie157

    Feb 16, 2015 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #8

    Darlow will be our no.2 next season, seen enough to suggest he’s a good keeper, he suffered during Forest’s bad run and mistakes started to happen. Hopefully he’ll learn from that experience.

    Lascelles worries me a little, lots of hype over the past few seasons but he’s hardly featured this season. He reminds me of Caulker, relies on his pace to get out of trouble and his concentration is an issue but again still learning.

    Far to early to say these two are poor buys.

    Most of the time Carr gets it right, for every Perez there’ll be a Riviere and for every Sissoko there’ll be a Marveaux.

    All clubs sign duds. Man U had a history of signing them.

  • one fine day

    Feb 16, 2015 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #9

    Again this year it looks like we will be needing At least 5 in plus the forest two just to make up what will be moved on .
    The fact we won’t know who our manager even is until prob 5 weeks before the start of next season says even more poor planning .
    And so ,like this season ,next year we will be told players need time to bed in ,which is correct but it seems every year we go through this.
    And so on it goes .
    On topic. Why would Ings or indeed any player with a few options choose a club where he has no idea who his coach will be?

  • nut meg

    Feb 16, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #10

    beermonkey @ 5
    Stuart Pearce was well & truly pi++ed off cos he only found out at training that they had been sold.He argued with people at the top that he could have got more money for them.I had a feeling all along that he wasn’t playing Lacelles (spelling/) because he was bragging to the rest of the team when Pearce walked in & that was the first he knew of it.

  • jayphoto

    Feb 16, 2015 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #11

    I live fairly near Nottingham in Derbyshire! Know a few fans! They actually rate Darlow really highly though theres talk that he pushed to be allowed to go back to newcastle during the GK crisis in December and has been distracted with his eyes on the toon! Dream move for him and talk is he didn’t want to wait the season!
    Forest fans don’t seem to rate Lacelles attitude. The attributes are there but hes got a bit of the Nile Rangers about him, thinks hes already made it! Lot of talk about his conduct and attitude when about in nottingham and Derby! His mr big time attitude is widely thought to be why hes out of the team. His attributes are excellent.
    Darlow lost his place under pearce purely because he missed a few games and the replacement did so well

  • toonarmydownsouth

    Feb 16, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #12

    Wouldn’t particularly say Darlow is struggling Ed
    Played 26 out of the 31 and thought he missed a couple through injury not due to form?

    Lascelles on the hand is a concern, especially given our woeful defensive roster
    This lad really needed to have a big season for Forest but it seems the move has perhaps had a detrimental effect given he’s played so few games this season, although once again am i right in remembering he was also struggling with an injury at the start of the campaign?
    Still, his current form seems hit and miss from reports and there have been a few stories about his attitude and behaviour of the pitch (was if him that has been put on pub watch through Nottingham?)

  • beermonkey

    Feb 16, 2015 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #13

    lets hope we can et a manager than can motivate Lascelles to reach his potential rather than going the way of the ranger


    Feb 16, 2015 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #14

    how about we take them now if they are dat bad? m sure thier mind is on newcastle not forest thats why thier performance has droped… il laugh wen they turn out good :d

  • The overrated Frenchman

    Feb 16, 2015 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #15

    I’d like to see someone put a match to St.James’ and watch it burn to the ground. There’s nothing but memories to be proud of or passionate about now. Newcastle United as we knew it is dead, and it’s soul has been sold to the devil. I’d like to see the Sports Direct signs and the corporate seating go up in flames and be turned into ash to be blown away by the wind. If I wasn’t too old to get back there now I’d do it myself. That’s how I feel anyway.

  • expatmag

    Feb 16, 2015 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #16


    Dont be a cheeky twat. You know what I am talking about. All you can come up with is 2 out of 22 games that satisfied you. Great value for money that.

    and by the way, it is too far to travel from Melbourne anyway.

  • martoon

    Feb 16, 2015 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #17

    expatmag @16 – I’m not sure what I said to upset you but it was unintentional. I know you live in Australia and I admire the fact you still follow the Toon. I did say the good matches were off the top of my head – there have been more but not enough as you so rightly say. I was simply saying, no matter who is the owner, if you expect a win every week then NUFC is not the team to follow.

  • expatmag

    Feb 16, 2015 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #18


    I never said I expected a win every week but I would expect a team to play with fervour, panache and organisation, committed to the cause backed by a management team prepared to show ambition in winning trophies and qualifying for european football competition by backing suitably qualified and experienced team coaches with the players to achieve these aims from the undoubted funds available.

    That would be why I would spend my hard earned on a season ticket.

    I gave up long ago, staying up till 4am punishing myself by watching the utter crap being dished up by this regime.

    Quite frankly, I am better off in bed, dreaming of past great teams and games when we were truly, the entertainers and everyones favourite second team.

  • Laurent Robert 32

    Feb 16, 2015 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #19

    Firebug, good post on the other thread. I totally agree.

    firebug666 // Feb 16, 2015 at 9:14 AM

    I agree that with a full stadium every home game nothing will change, that’s all Ashley wants, and he makes sure he gets it.

    I understand the viewpoint from ST holders, and agree that if they gave up their ticket now, Ashley would sell it on to someone else for cheaper, it the way he works.

    Therefore ST holders who give up their ticket out of protest will achieve nothing, quite simply put another bum will fill the seat.

    Better to keep the ST holders we have inside the stadium so that they at least can make some noise, and for a TV match if a protest is organised where better than in the stadium?


    As I’ve said before, it needs a specific game to be target and either people walk out again, or hold some form of mass demonstration. That needs to be continued and built upon throughout the season to get the ball rolling so-to-speak, then for people to not take their season tickets out next year.

    One or two not showing up just dilutes the atmosphere further and places are filled by cheaper day-trippers.

  • cyprus

    Feb 16, 2015 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #20

    So, to spin Carver’s numbers positively, he has a 33% PL loss ratio. Much better than AP!

  • AncientC

    Feb 16, 2015 at 12:37 PM

    Comment #21

    Given this clubs past with CBs, I am not sure why it was thought developing a young CB was a good idea.

    We cannot get the best out of senior CBs, imagine what will happen to a young CB in need of training and guidance.

    It was criminal to miss out of Lescott.

  • toon kk

    Feb 16, 2015 at 12:43 PM

    Comment #22

    SJP will always be full, as MA is concerned he’s providing cheap budget football for families to enjoy basically, the same as SD products, with maximum profits. Most St holders are sheep who just want to watch a football match and a win is a bonus.
    The real passion has gone most have just accepted the regime. Mashleys 5yr plan is complete, and successful in his eyes.

    One thing i cant understand why people can’t boycott one televised home game, it may not charge ananything but MA would hate the bad publicity. .

  • Sav

    Feb 16, 2015 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #23

    Never got the handle on exactly whose surprise double signing this was. We proclaimed it as a masterstroke at the time – largely because ANY signing was seen as a good thing and because Pearce made such a fuss we figured they must be Messi and Ronaldo. Was this Carr’s recommendation or a friend of a friend of Mashley’s?

  • JDdubai

    Feb 16, 2015 at 12:55 PM

    Comment #24

    Jesus guys

    Lets at least wait until the players get to the club before we write them off.

    also I assume Lascelles has a lot to learn, how many CBs are the finished article at 21?

    Lets give them a chance.

    There could be 100 reasons why Lascelles isnt playing, perhaps his eyes are on us, perhaps he was bragging about it, maybe Forest were pissed off that he left, bottom line is we dont know. So lets just wait and see how he plays pre-season.

  • scout

    Feb 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM

    Comment #25

    Still better than willo, if he can pass a ball and run in a straight line hes better

  • Laurent Robert 32

    Feb 16, 2015 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #26

    kk, a few thousand walked out at one time, it’s just a shame that it was on the final game as the off-season helped to water down the effectiveness for the new season.

    It can be done if the emphasis is on doing the same thing again each week for more join in and voice their displeasure at how the club is being run. When more are on board with the reasoning, a full game can be targeted, but it needs to be built up in my opinion, or people just aren’t going to do it.

  • toon kk

    Feb 16, 2015 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #27

    Any lower league player would fit nicely into our squad, better players would not be able to play to their potential.

  • toon kk

    Feb 16, 2015 at 1:38 PM

    Comment #28

    I agree, if a few protests broke out others would join in. If we were playing terrible ( which seems to be the norm these days) and just a few hundred walked out it would be surprising how many would follow, a few weeks of that would be a good start.
    Too many are accepting dross.

  • hibbit

    Feb 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM

    Comment #29

    going in late has the biggest impact taking your seat 15 mins after ko…… if enough do it ko will be delayed tv games would cause most problems if delayed you would not miss any of the match

  • hibbit

    Feb 16, 2015 at 1:43 PM

    Comment #30

    disruption is the name of the game hit the sky game’s

  • martoon

    Feb 16, 2015 at 1:43 PM

    Comment #31

    Laurent Robert 32 & toon kk – I would be quite prepared to do that but the problem with all these protests is that they lack coordination and leadership. As somebody once pointed out the campaign needs a leader and a figurehead like the gherkas had Joanna Lumley (bad example but you know what I mean) – only then would something be achieved.

  • hibbit

    Feb 16, 2015 at 1:46 PM

    Comment #32

    make the tv game’s work for us any delays are costly to sky or bt

  • Jeff from Benwell

    Feb 16, 2015 at 1:55 PM

    Comment #33

    This is an interesting one.

    Apparently the transfer window in the UAE is open for a week yet.

    The Emirates of Dubai have made an offer too good to refuse for Pappis Cisse and he is on his way out of England

  • AncientC

    Feb 16, 2015 at 2:16 PM

    Comment #34

    hibbit – going in late makes a lot more sense than leaving early.

    If you get people to take part, it guarantees the protest. You can just imagine trying to get people to leave if the team is playing poorly but holding onto a lead…

  • optimistic prime

    Feb 16, 2015 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #35

    I can understand why people still hold season tickets.

    What I can’t understand is why anybody would PAY to go to watch a cup game KNOWING the club don’t want to win.

    Not many go to reserve games, why pay double to watch them in a cup?

  • remember69

    Feb 17, 2015 at 1:05 AM

    Comment #36

    “What I can’t understand is why anybody would PAY to go to watch a cup game KNOWING the club don’t want to win.”
    Where does this come form? Like ALL EPL teams I understand that league status takes precedence over a cup run, but I don’t believe I have seen it stated anywhere that the club don’t want to win cup games.

    Are you yourself suggesting a decent cup run and relegation is preferable over maintaining EPL status?

    As all fans I CRAVE silverware (I was at St J when they won their last) but see the financial sense in putting the EPL as a first priority, trying to win a cup second.


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