Siem de Jong Will Still Be Used At Newcastle


It must be very difficult for Siem de Jong at the moment, and he’s had a tough first season at Newcastle, where he’s been out injured nearly all season, including in pre-season, and now he’s out with a collapsed lung – probably for the rest of the season.

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Siem de Jong – to be used as a coach

And with all the injuries Newcastle have picked up over the last couple of weeks, John Carver’s job as head coach has become that much more difficult.

And Siem has only made three sub appearances for Newcastle all season, but John Carver plans to use him as a coach.

This is some of what John Carver said at his media briefing yesterday:

“I haven’t put a timeline on it for Siem. The most important thing is how he feels.”  “This was a big operation he had. So it’s y in his hands. We won’t force him before he is ready to come back.”

“He’s such a positive guy he might be back quicker than anyone expects.”  “My question would be can we use him around the place?”

“I haven’t had that discussion with him yet so he might not want to do anything.” “I might ask him to come in and watch the U-21s and give me a bit of feedback on the U-21s.”

“Or the youth team.”  “I want to make him feel part of the club because he’s a little bit frustrated because he’s come here with a big reputation and he’s not been able to give something to the fans.

“He was so close and then it’s like chopping his legs away.”

Siem has been missed at Newcastle, not only because he’s a good player but he’s also a leader – so keeping him involved at the club in some capacity is a good man-management move by Carver.

And when he last had his collapsed lung at Ajax in August of 2013, he was out for about six weeks, but he’s had surgery this time.

Eight weeks out is the prognosis, and that means he could be ready by about mid-April, but then he would have to get match fit – so it’s a long shot that we’ll see him playing this season.

But Siem can still stay involved and use his vast experience to help the Newcastle  youngsters and offer feedback to John Carver – it’s a good move by John.

What do you think?

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82 comments so far

  • Average_Contents

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:04 AM

    Comment #1

    Probably the slugs idea this.

    What are we paying him for? Get him out working!

    “Can’t have him sat around earning and doing nowt can we john me ol mukka”

    “No boss” “I’ll get right on it boss”

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  • lesh

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #2

    Average

    Yup, Ashley’s mind would work on the basis that if de Jong’s being paid, he’ll do some work!

    As I’ve said before, if Ashley could get players onto zero-hours contracts, he would.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Ashley’s asked Moncur to get his boots out of hock!

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  • firebug666

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #3

    I’ve been a bit angry and negative of late on here so not been posting as much, had to try and get out of my NUFC caused depression.

    I have decided to try and be more positive for a while.

    I’m positive Carver is a complete imbecile, If his game plan for Man City is the same as his “Top Secret Plan” for Palace I can see a thrashing coming.

    I’m positive that the players we have fit and available will not be enough to get a result this weekend.

    I’m positive that the idiots who infest our club at boardroom level will stick with the chief ar*e licker in the summer, and we will not see any new coaches coming in never mind a head coach.

    I’m positive that we now have the worst football Head Coach ever.

    I’m positive we will lose this weekend.

    So at least now I’m more positive.

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  • BandB

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:15 AM

    Comment #4

    The transfer window showed the management being every bit as clever as it thinks it is.
    Long-term injuries to Taylor, De Jong, Tiote and Dummett are a splash of cold water.
    It may have dawned on them that the squad may have very little fight in it. Charnley’s support for Carver this week is preparing the ground for a campaign (which will gather pace) to claim that it is the fans who are to blame for undermining the team.

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  • stuart no9

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #5

    sadly the downhill slide gets into top gear saturday . this game could have a big physiological effect on the team for the rest of the season.
    Now is not the time to be playing one of the best teams in the country . We are crippled with injuries , have a doughnut as a coach against one of the great managers in the country , and will have to deal with world class players on their patch . ooooh it aint looking too good and the result could be damaging.
    If ashley believes we are safe – he better think again coz it all goes downhill from here .

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  • AncientC

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #6

    Can the injury situation be believed?

    This is the problem with lying to the fans about injuries in the past, you erode trust.

    If the club will lie about injuries for cup competitions, what is to say they are not lying about keeping other players out… threatening players nearing end of contracts etc.

    Sammy and now Cabella has a knock, other injured players are somehow managing to get injured in the process of being injured… (Sammy with a contract coming up, if he is out of the side the club can bargain him down)

    It would not shock me in the least if players get paid a certain percentage more for games they play in, with Charnley scheming in behind the scenes, deciding which games certain players can be dropped for to save money.

    Oh well, this ‘state of the art’ training complex should help… within the next couple of years the players will not have to train on frozen solid pitches during winter anymore; also, there will be a swimming pool… welcome to state of the art in the millionaires club.

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  • firebug666

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #7

    BandB

    What they don’t seem to see is that losing the fans is as bad if not worse, as the manager losing his dressing room.

    The club is run by complete idiots who spend too much time fawning around Ashley’s feet trying to gain favour.

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  • hibbit

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #8

    firebug thats a very positive assessment of or currant situation and i look forward to more of your positive blogs

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  • BandB

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #9

    firebug,

    The press office lives in terror. It exists to please one man and one man only.
    Watch this space: “Don’t blame us, get behind the team you snivelling curs!” will be the theme for the remainder of the season.

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  • one fine day

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:26 AM

    Comment #10

    Ancient,
    Yes once that’s finished we shall boast of the finest facilities in the championship 🙂

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  • firebug666

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:26 AM

    Comment #11

    hibbit

    TY. It’s nice to feel positive once in a while. Sometimes it takes it’s time to filter through, but once you realise that the club is run by idiots from top to bottom the rest is easy.

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  • hibbit

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #12

    ancient ….benton training pitches have under soil heating …..are they saving money by not turning it on

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  • stuart no9

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #13

    Some one talking about Moncur , what is his role at the club . One of the great players and captains of this club , bleeds black and white, a genuinefan of this club , however , talks pure garbage- total rubbish when speaking on behalf of the hierarchy. I used to see him as an ambassador for this club , but i doubt his loyalty for the club over the last few years , and makes comments only to keep him in a job – whatever job that is .

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  • one fine day

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #14

    Stuart9
    Our only glimmer is that they have one eye on the barca game. And all our lot have blinders .
    Boro went there n turned them over … Only difference they had Karanka pulling the strings and we have ….. Yeah alright we’re fuc@@d

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  • firebug666

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #15

    BandB

    It was always on the cards that the fans should suffer the blame for the team’s poor performance.

    After all, who else could you blame?

    Could never be Carver’s fault, he’s a geordie you know, and he worked with the great Sir Bobby, and he’s a fan (the clubs biggest fan) and did I mention he’s a Geordie?

    Could never be the boardrooms fault, they follow their instructions to the letter, and the Emperor is well pleased with them.

    No; it must be down to those nasty pesky little fans, if only they could be brainwashed……..

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  • one fine day

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #16

    Moncur has a very important role.
    And will do for quite some time.
    His task?
    To organise the annual dinner commemorating the last time we won anything.
    Can’t believe we actually celebrate our mediocrity.
    I was born in 69 so every year it’s an easy calculation .
    We need to enter more local six a sides and not worry about this premiership nonsense 🙂

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  • BandB

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #17

    Stuart

    Moncur always talked a good fight until the tape started rolling.

    Now?

    He who pays the piper calls the tune.

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  • beermonkey

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #18

    firebug

    nice to see a bit of positivity on the blog

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  • one fine day

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #19

    At least if we went seriously into six a sides we maybe capable of putting out a fit team

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  • stuart no9

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #20

    one fine day —— glad you seen sence in the end hahahah however , you could be right , having one eye on europe could lead to city fielding their U 21s at least that would keep the score respectable.

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  • AncientC

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #21

    hibbit – well done. Now read again and see if you get the point. *Clue, it is something to do with ‘state of the art.’

    Next you can inform me the players already have use of a swimming pool.

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  • one fine day

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #22

    Hobbit,
    Doesn’t o.p live near the training ground ?
    Couldn’t he nip over at night a flick the switch up?

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  • hibbit

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #23

    ancient maybe you should be the one to reading things again…… THEY DON’T SWITCH IT ON TO SAVE MONEY

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  • one fine day

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #24

    Stuart,
    Perspective required mate.
    City sack a coach if he fails to deliver the prem.
    If we finish in top ten our salad dodging empresario will call for carver to be given the keys to the city.i
    At least watching at 4 am will hopefully act as some kind of sedative and hopefully numb the pain

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  • stuart no9

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #25

    BandB – Mmmm sad really. The thought of a ” legend’ beholding to an individual whos only aim is to damage the very club that brought him and his team success also a club that has given him a fabulous lifestyle . Shame on him .

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  • one fine day

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #26

    Hibbet.
    Apols on the hobbit thing. Auto correct strikes again

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  • BandB

    Feb 20, 2015 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #27

    City are BOUND to rest players.
    Because they really aren’t that fussed whether they keep tabs on Chelsea.
    It’s like, soooooo obvious!

    Sttt!

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  • hibbit

    Feb 20, 2015 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #28

    one fine day thats ok it happens a lot……don’t mind hobbit

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  • BandB

    Feb 20, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #29

    Stu,

    He was the same before Ashley came.

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  • sing in the corner

    Feb 20, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #30

    Carver is sounding increasingly amateurish in his quotes. A bit of the Ron Manager in his interviews. Mind you things are crumbly all around him and apart from the dreaded vote of confidence and the odd sound bite from the ‘suits’ he’s basically the one left holding the bomb

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  • AncientC

    Feb 20, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #31

    Man City had 70% possession against us in the league cup… and this was in a game that Man City would not have been exerting themselves, while we were playing probably the best we had played all season.

    I can only imagine what will happen with Man City stepping it up a gear, and Carver producing a team sheet reading 4-3-3 (which we all know = 4-5-1) with no pace on the wings.

    Carver parks the bus against Palace, but claims he won’t park the bus away to City. Try wrapping your head around that one.

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  • Ian Toon

    Feb 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #32

    Oh BandB and Mr Tuff- It is all about you Isn’t it. Wonderful you, not down with the blog riff raff. I daily come into contact with people of a certain generation who express themselves in less than a politically correct manner. Many are white uneducated and common – to the likes of you and the deemed fellow blog elites. I prefer the BBC
    Coded type of blogger but I believe we should be inclusive and just don’t read some contributors.

    Returning to the point. Your approach on here is that you’re too good to imagine what turned Germans into Nazis, you’re too good and have to distance yourself from anything bad first in order to portray yourself as reasonable. You just hate it when bloggers are nasty online because you see yourself as personally courteous and decent. There’s meanness here and at large. Horrible behaviour. But you are not better than them and your sneering approach is to denigrate humankind. People are human, mean spirited, stupid some of them and some have mental health issues.

    Some of them get onto online sites and pour it out but the majority just get on with it! In any event they’re probably a lot more personally kind than you. We all differentiate because it’s human nature in order to seek to preserve our own world view.
    Yours Synergistically
    The narcissistic pseud.

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  • beermonkey

    Feb 20, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #33

    did city rest players when we played them in the league cup the next 2 games they had were man u and cska Moscow

    Manchester City
    13 Caballero
    03 Sagna
    26 Demichelis
    20 Mangala Booked
    11 Kolarov
    07 Milner Booked
    25 Fernandinho
    42 Y Touré (Jesús Navas – 60′ )
    21 Silva (Nasri – 9′ )
    35 Jovetic
    10 Dzeko
    Substitutes
    01 Hart
    05 Zabaleta
    06 Fernando
    08 Nasri (Agüero – 70′ Booked )
    15 Jesús Navas
    16 Agüero
    38 Boyata

    its still a class team even if some were rested its sad but I hope we just keep it below 3 0

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  • lesh

    Feb 20, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #34

    stuart no9

    Whatever Moncur’s role now, he’ll not be driving a taxi these days.

    Ah but hang on, the wage he’ll be being paid as Ambassador’ll be the hourly national minimium so he’s probably cabbying at nights.

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  • hibbit

    Feb 20, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #35

    carver stone amd woodman are just waiting for the payoff all 3 have 4 years to run carver and stone might never work again in the prem woodman is just waiting to join pardue there not on big money so they need the payoff

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  • BandB

    Feb 20, 2015 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #36

    Ian

    I think people need to do more than come on the blog and call Ashley a Canute six times a day and have the odd gratuitous swipe at you.

    I have said so.

    I haven’t ever seen you change lanes.

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  • lesh

    Feb 20, 2015 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #37

    What Carver’s not got is experience of coaching at the top levels of football and thus is lacking the knowledge born of that experience.

    Coaching in basic skills is not the same as coaching tactics to be employed against teams the like of which he’s had no experience of.

    I’d feel more comfortable with the current situation if Charnley had announced that Carver’s head coach ’til the end of the season – when the newly-recruited head coach’s name will be announced!

    Did we hear that? No? Ah, so the job’s Carver’s then. Another fine mess…..

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  • lesh

    Feb 20, 2015 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #38

    beermonkey

    Unlike us, Citeh’s squad is ample enough to allow for resting players.

    Ashley’s got NUFC running on the bones of its arse, almost threadbare and totally inadequate.

    Where’s Carver’s voice in all this? Put your ear somewhere near Ashley’s backside and you might just hear him!!

    On second thoughts, protective equipment should be worn if venturing anywhere near his nether regions.

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  • BandB

    Feb 20, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #39

    Ian,

    And the problem with the impartiality code is that if Satan burst from the gates of Hell today swearing to eat all the little bairns alive, the BBC would send out its reporters with instructions not to come back until they had three views against and three in favour.

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  • stuart no9

    Feb 20, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #40

    lesh — taxi driver ????? sorry i dont see the connection.

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