Newcastle players were told what to expect at Manchester City on Saturday that thew would be put under pressure from the first kick-off and that’s exactly what happened as City kicked off.
Mike Williamson – made the first mistake
But in the first 29 seconds three mistakes were made by Newcastle players and we were 1-0 down.
Mike Williamson did well to shield the ball from Sergio Aguero on the City left wing following the kick-off, but he then made a dangerous pass inside to Vurnon Anita with Dzeko close to him – that was the first mistake.
Vurnon is a good technical player usually, but he failed to control the ball, and it bounced off him to Edin Dzeko, and the Bosnian International went into the penalty box.
Vurnon tried to recover but only managed to bring the tall striker down in the box, and it was a penalty and Newcastle’s third mistake.
All in 29 seconds – or was it 28?
We’ll be glad if Newcastle are still 0-0 on Saturday against Aston Villa after 30 seconds.
Sergio Aguero dispatched the penalty and we were 1-0 down, and we didn’t even concede a goal last October when we won 2-0 in the Capital One Cup with a weakened side.
🙁
John Carver admitted it was not a good start to the game:
“It wasn’t a great start.” “There wasn’t anything that we didn’t expect.” “We expected them to put us under pressure from the start, from the kick-off.”
“If we’d have got the kick-off we’d have done exactly the same thing.” “Put it in their half and put them under pressure.” “They got kick off, the ball was put in our half and we just didn’t deal with it.”
“Mike Williamson had a chance to stick the ball back into midfield and he didn’t.” “Vurn turned back on himself and it’s a penalty.” “So 1-0 away at Man City and you are in trouble.”
John and his coaches will have another full week to prepare the side for the important home game against Aston Villa on Saturday.
We could even get a clean sheet in that game, since Aston Villa are finding it very difficult to score goals this season.
They have scored only 13 goals in their 26 league games, and only four of those away from home in their 13 games on the road.
Why is it that I am now a little nervous about conceding some goals on Saturday? 😀
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79 comments so far
one fine day
Feb 23, 2015 at 9:57 AM
Comment #1Three mistakes in 29 seconds ed you have done four stream in around the same wtf? Cut down on espressos mate .
Hard to have any convo here as this pace
gaz 44
Feb 23, 2015 at 9:58 AM
Comment #2Well not expecting anything next week . team battling against relegation and a team of no hopers who have nothing to play for . may aswel drop Williamson and try one of the kids. Anita should be sold to Millwall or someone of his standard in the summer collocini should retire and mike Ashley should be sold to Isis made to wear a wig and used as a sex slave
jimmysmith
Feb 23, 2015 at 10:03 AM
Comment #3Poor old Willo, demonised for not hoofing it. Damned if he does,damned if he doesn’t. Seems to me Vurnon inexplicably turned the wrong way, when ordinarily he’d take a ball like that in his stride all day long, and did the rest of the half and should have been kept on.
gaz 44
Feb 23, 2015 at 10:09 AM
Comment #4Jimmy there’s a time and a place to pass it out and even still colback is the pass no one around and about 5meter further up the pitch. It’s not just that match that gets williamson demonized if you think he’s good enough to be here next season I question your judgement lol. Having said that there’s been people slating collo for months and I’ve had my blinkers on until the last few week through blind loyalty. Really like hairdryer and janmaat but they need stability in the middle
one fine day
Feb 23, 2015 at 10:19 AM
Comment #5Jimily your post from previous;
We need 200 million to make us competitive for a top 4 spot never mind actually winning the title. No owner will invest that kind of money with no guarantee of success. NUFC will never win the league. We blew it in 1996. We have to accept we are not a big club. Big clubs win things. Man had not invented fire the last time we won the league (1927) or the Cup (1955) Big support means little in the equation of what constitutes a big club.. Lagos Marauders get 80K in Africa but they are not a big club either. We make up the numbers in the Premier League and we should be satisfied with survival and the odd win over Citee or Chelsea or the Scum as part of our 10 wins a season campaign. We need to lower our expectations and expect to win nothing and survive. Then every fan will be a lot more content.
So that’s it mate pack up turn out the lights ? And switch off the minty telly in the leases too?
Let’s be content to just be in the league ?
You,re seriously content with that?
I don’t think in my lifetime we will see us winning champions league but to say we will always just look up to chelsea. And city etc is a fu$$ed up attitude man
If you asked city fans when they were stood on a crumbling kip pax and in the third div do you think they’d have beloved where they are now?
Before Jonny roubles waltzed down the kings road chelsea were a very average club with gates of 20,000 and were lucky to be in the top five clubs in London let alone premier.
Unlike you I and thousands of others see the potential of this club will the same backing being bigger than any of those mentioned .
But hey let’s just be content to still get invited to the party
Pathetic .
We are only at the desperate level now because of who is at the top .
A change there and a serious owner who knows what it means to have such an icon of English football can make a massive difference
hibbit
Feb 23, 2015 at 10:20 AM
Comment #6we need a new cb pairing will we get one NO
jimmysmith
Feb 23, 2015 at 10:20 AM
Comment #7I think Willo is an adequate third or fourth choice and the pass was a reasonable one to play to a neat and tidy DM like Anita, who, by his standards, was in space, although sadly, not switched on.
one fine day
Feb 23, 2015 at 10:21 AM
Comment #8Leazers. Not leasers Damn auto correct
lesh
Feb 23, 2015 at 10:21 AM
Comment #9From previous
jimiley
I think you underestimate the reality of our fans.
Of course we can’t readily compete with the money-bags clubs but ffs, there are cups to play for.
Fans are pissed off at Ashley’s unwillngness to try to win anything. They’re pissed of with Ashley’s bare minimum approach to the squad plus the associated aim for 10th or better – the season being over by Christmas!
Trying’s not a lot to ask is it?
Ask Southampton’s fans whether they’ve enjoyed the season so far and look forward to more excitement and you might understand what we want!
Jeff from Benwell
Feb 23, 2015 at 10:26 AM
Comment #10I think people are harking back to when Barry Moat’s syndicate was mooted as buying the club from Ashley
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1222814/Newcastle-legend-Alan-Shearer-admits-wants-return-manager.html
one fine day
Feb 23, 2015 at 10:28 AM
Comment #11Lesh
More eloquently put that my response but I was trying to suppress rage .
Fully agree .
All we ask for is a club we can again be proud off who will give any team a game .
Not the embarrassment we have now and look forward to being next seasons whipping boys who are just happy to stay up.
Even burley have higher expectations than us.
Are they considered to be delusional?
one fine day
Feb 23, 2015 at 10:29 AM
Comment #12Thanks Jeff that’s the one I was thinking of.
Blofal
Feb 23, 2015 at 10:30 AM
Comment #13All these players need to be sold or loans cancelled. And this is on top of the departing HBA, Mbiwa and Santon
Williamson
Anita
Colcinni
Tiote
Ferreyra
Gouffran
Ferguson
Alnwick
Gutierrez
Elliot
Bigirimana
That’s a total of 14 players including those who have already left. Then bring in new players as per the new Head Coach’s request and start again.
We need to gut the squad and just start again.
Lindisfarne
Feb 23, 2015 at 10:32 AM
Comment #14Gone in 30 seconds!!!
Blofal
Feb 23, 2015 at 10:33 AM
Comment #15I want Tuchel to be the new Head Coach. Given the way he had Mainz playing we would never get beaten 5 – 0. If you ddin’t close down and press with Tuchel you didn’t play.
Lindisfarne
Feb 23, 2015 at 10:35 AM
Comment #16Blofal
I have a feeling Sammy and Aarons will not be around next season because of CHEAPSKATE offers on new contracts. I don’t blame them they are better off elsewhere.
Blofal
Feb 23, 2015 at 10:43 AM
Comment #17Lindisfarne I wouldn’t be surprised if Aarons, Perez and Sissoko are all sold.
I call it now that at least one of them won’t be here next season.
jimiley
Feb 23, 2015 at 10:45 AM
Comment #18One fine Day,
I am content just to see my team playing football. Preferably in the Premier League. Mr Ashley has saved this club and should be given credit for that. Likewise, we should not despise the guy just because he is unwilling to invest 200 million of his own hard earned cash, to please us, on a project that has no guarantee of success. In Mr Ashley and John Carver we trust.
Lindisfarne
Feb 23, 2015 at 10:47 AM
Comment #19jimmysmith
I would say Dzeko was also not running towards the ball and made sure that he got the penalty. An unfortunate set of circumstances started by a player that is renowned for lumping the ball out from the back.
The whole match is another episode that highlights the lack of quality that the team has in both defense and attack. Perhaps the lack of solidity at the back was compensated for by the previous manager at the cost of an adequate attack and now JC is suffering from players without the necessary ability to play a strong attacking strategy. However there has been four seasons for this to be remedied.
Lindisfarne
Feb 23, 2015 at 10:49 AM
Comment #20Blofal
I am with you on the no nonsense approach of Tuchel but wonder if there would be enough players left to select from!?!
AncientC
Feb 23, 2015 at 10:58 AM
Comment #21“We need 200 million to make us competitive for a top 4 spot never mind actually winning the title. No owner will invest that kind of money with no guarantee of success.”
Obviously that is wrong, as the owners of the clubs at the top do invest money without any guarantee of success, look at Liverpool and Tottenham.
We also have Southampton challenging for the top 4 this season, without a huge outlay.
We should be a top 8 club every season, and that is just to punch our weight. If the club was run efficiently, there is no reason we couldn’t be a few places above 8th and punching above our weight.
It isn’t some impossible dream to be a top 6 club, it is very realistic. 6th is two places away from 4th, which puts you in a position to be challenging for top 4 if you keep at it every season, as the 5 teams above are not always going to have a good season.
Investing in essential areas, such as management, coaching and making smart squad additions can be done… Mike Ashley just does not want to bother.
A good head coach would have an idea of what type of football he wants to play, that would mean bringing in players that suit his style, whilst shifting others out. That simply cannot happen with our recruitment policy, players are not bought because they fit into a certain style of football, they are bought because they are available on the cheap, if there is value, that is all that matters.
It is no wonder the football is so fractured and disjointed, the squad is full of parts that fit different styles of football. The best 11 individuals are chosen to play each week, with no thought as to what works best as a team.
Sissoko is bombing around like George Weah holding the ball. Colback is keeping his passing very neat without ever holding onto the ball. Perez is trying to keep the ball on the deck and move, Cisse is trying to do his lone-wolf striker thing.
The CB situation hasn’t changed since the championship, when the alarm bells were going off years ago.
Easily the most bizarre excuse for a cohesive unit since QPR assembled a team under Mark Hughes.
Frankenstein parts = Frankenstein Football.
BandB
Feb 23, 2015 at 11:01 AM
Comment #22jimiley,
It works every time doesn’t it?
Doesn’t fill one with hope.
hibbit
Feb 23, 2015 at 11:06 AM
Comment #23jim iley what if we go down will you still be happy no one went’s him to spend that kind of money but we at least need to be competitive and give the manager a chance to win games and give the fans so hope of winning something
Mattroge
Feb 23, 2015 at 11:08 AM
Comment #24I don’t think there’d bee too many on here that would argue against the fact that Williamson simply isn’t up to it. He’s a very limited footballer who gives 100% but is out of his depth in the Premier League. The first goal though wasn’t on him, not his fault that Anita couldn’t control a simple short pass.
BandB
Feb 23, 2015 at 11:09 AM
Comment #25hibbit,
You are talking dog to a cat…….
martoon
Feb 23, 2015 at 11:17 AM
Comment #26jimmysmith @3 – That’s the way I saw it as well, it wasn’t that bad a pass, it was the fact that Anita didn’t control the ball that led to the penalty.
gaz 44 @4 – I actually thought Man City targetted Haidara – they must have looked at our defence and thought Colo & Wilo Ok as a pair, Janmaat an international fullback but Haidara a young inexperienced defender. Most attacks came down our left side and Sky showed how he was hopelessly out of position quite a few times.
nastynorm
Feb 23, 2015 at 11:22 AM
Comment #27This is y carver shud not get the job his team talk was obviously let’s take it easy on them cos they’ve a hard game on tuesday nite v barca, don’t tackle them & let them play at there pace & we mite get away with a draw ! This team has no leader (useless Collo) no shape no centre of defence (defence is & has been worst I’ve ever seen) & no heart, it’s embarrassing watchin this bunch so called footballers. Get rid of the dross, Collo,wilko,Anita,cisse,gouffy,Elliott,Alnwick, carver & his clueless coaches, were a joke
Our Toon
Feb 23, 2015 at 11:27 AM
Comment #28The first goal was poor all round, Williamson who rarely goes short decided for the 1st time I his life that a short ball to Anita is the pass. Anita who was sleeping….don’t think he was expecting the pass was god awful in his control of the ball.
The mind does boggle though with the tactics that we employed, our fullbacks were tucked in so much so that they were essentially playing as Left Centre Back and Right Centre Back leaving Colo and willo sandwiched between. Add to that the lack of help from both Sissoko and Colback defensively to track midfield runners.
Can’t remember which goal it was but we lost team ball high up the pitch and only 2 players were busting a gut to get back and help out…meanwhile our 2 CM’s The Dozey Pirlo and Sissoko were casually jogging. Cisse hold up play was decent at times. Be interesting to see what team is played against Villa, hopefully Abeid is given Colbacks role now that he’s suspended.
Our Toon
Feb 23, 2015 at 11:31 AM
Comment #29Martoon
Spot on mate, Dzeko kept peeling off onto Haidara and citeh exploited his weakness. Haidara is good with winger or wide players that are in front of him but if they have movement etc he’s like a rabbit in headlights. The same Dzeko who MYM had in his pocket when Roma came to the Etihad. Are those who blasted Santon still sure Haidara is a better LB?
jayphoto
Feb 23, 2015 at 11:36 AM
Comment #30Don’t think Anita wanted or was expecting the pass! Problem with Willo is that his inclusion automatically dictates how we play. we have to sit deep as if we play a high line he gets caught in behind all day. We are instantly forced to play deep. He also is uncomfortble on the ball and as a central defender stops us playing possession football as often he is the most open pass but is uncomfortable taking a pass and moving the ball on.
For all Colos defensive frailties this season, he moves the ball around well and when played with the wuicker Dummett organised a higher line and his performances were much improved.
I get that willo is a honest pro but for me if we release him only Crystal Palace show interest in the PL
Mister Tuff
Feb 23, 2015 at 11:38 AM
Comment #31Colo and Willo ok as a pair.???????????????
Should be Colo and Willo a pair of knackers!
mindshaft
Feb 23, 2015 at 11:43 AM
Comment #32Surely its time to take the captaincy off Collo, he’s an average CB at best these days and def can’t do his own job and cover for Haidara at LB as well.
Trouble is that I’m not sure who else we could give the captaincy to that would do a better job … Colback? at least he might bark some orders out on the pitch
BandB
Feb 23, 2015 at 11:44 AM
Comment #33Within minutes of coming on, Abeid was remonstrating with his team-mates to stop standing stock-still in marked positions waiting for his pass.
Abeid has talked about “communication problems” with Pardew, and this is still Pardew’s coaching outfit.
I think he has suffered from not being perceived as “one of us” in the way that other squad members have been frozen out in the past.
I think one of “the group” will get the nod i.e. Taylor.
I wonder who is going to be fingered for “talking behind backs” when Carver has his “clear the air” chat today?
Odd statement!
jayphoto
Feb 23, 2015 at 11:46 AM
Comment #34Actually think this is the most threadbare squad since the Premier League began. Can’t think what board was thinking as we didn’t even break even on letting MYM and Santon leave. Not like it was offers too good to refuse.
Think we need to change alot rapidly.
Gouffran – was a striker all his career in France. If hes gotta play, surely uptop, not like we have numbers.
Cisse- apparantly knacked? To me he only looks decent coming off the bench anyway. Offers nothing but instinctive finishing which is not enough these days.
Colback – looks shattered. A victim of non existent rotation. Needs a rest.
Perez- *see colback*
Willo – not a footballer- i can’t imagine Satka being any worse?
Anita – wrong team, wrong position, wrong style, wrong league. Theres a reason Ajax kept playing him full back and wide.
Abeid – has to start!
I actually don’t understand what Riviere has done? Hes not been amongst the goals but his hold up play, work rate has seen him offer more to a team performance than gouff and cisse goals apart
beermonkey
Feb 23, 2015 at 11:47 AM
Comment #35mindshaft
I cant think of 1 player that I would give the captaincy to
dunno what dejong is like but he was ajax captain
Lindisfarne
Feb 23, 2015 at 11:47 AM
Comment #36I posted the link to this article earlier:
“When I am being provocative I tell people that our coach, Glen Riddersholm, will never be sacked based on our league position,” Ankersen says. Instead Ankersen tells him he will be judged on whether he achieves certain key performance indicators (KPIs) which, over the long term, the club believes are more indicative of success.
Data also informs what Midtjylland’s coaches say to the players and the press. As Ankersen explains, at half-time the coaches are sent texts before they speak to players outlining how the team are measuring up to certain key metrics. “These effective KPIs give a more accurate message to the players and the press,” he insists.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/feb/22/brentford-mathematical-modelling-denmark
If only we had any indication that there was some sort of similar business philosophy being implemented at NUFC, that was based on progressive development rather than loyalty and minimising costs.
one fine day
Feb 23, 2015 at 11:49 AM
Comment #37jimily @18
One fine Day,
I am content just to see my team playing football. Preferably in the Premier League. Mr Ashley has saved this club and should be given credit for that. Likewise, we should not despise the guy just because he is unwilling to invest 200 million of his own hard earned cash, to please us, on a project that has no guarantee of success. In Mr Ashley and John Carver we trust.
We are not asking him to put in 200 of his “hard earned ” cash.
only to use some of the profits and tv money to reinvest back in to the club.
He is despised for many other reasons most of which he has brought on himself.
So I take it what is on offer at the moment you consider football?
His own money?
He has systematically stripped us of every revenue stream available from merchandise to advertising to even catering.
he is still attempting to have land around the ground transferred to mash holdings to 1.prevent any future extension of the stadium in years to come and two to continue to hold any potential new owner to ransom long after he has gone his way.
he sets us up every year to play until safe and then sells off any player for who a offer comes in.
the only time the ground wakes up is in the 17th minute for some polite applause.
Please tell me you are simply being sarcastic in the carver we trust thing ?
I,d rather see his sister in the dugout next weekend from what i hear she has more about her .
please then explain how we are a club with bigger turnover, fanbase and profits than half the premier yet we are told we cannot compete ?
As for hard earned cash ? ever seen the actual conditions in some of the textile sweatshops in down town dakar ? you know? the ones where the salad dodging oaf has his cheap tat sewn together by kids.
arise sir mike ? ffs you have to be just here to wind people up
Our Toon
Feb 23, 2015 at 11:49 AM
Comment #38Mindshaft
Colback for captain really? The same player who jogged back when we conceded in the 2nd half…Some commitment that, should Colback be starting? Never mind about him being captain. 10 bookings already, might beat Tiote’s record soon.
Problem is that MA got rid of all the vocal leaders….that’s why we have none on the pitch
Lindisfarne
Feb 23, 2015 at 11:56 AM
Comment #39jayphoto
It does seem to be a repeat of the second half of last season when we were promised experimentation and giving the U21 players a run in the first team. Instead we got Remy (when not injured – sic) Ameobi (out of contract) Gosling (out of contract) Willo (out classed) and senior squad players placed out of position.
Yet again we have nothing to play for, the same mistakes are being made and the same players keep getting on the pitch (out of position).
Our Toon
Feb 23, 2015 at 11:56 AM
Comment #40Jay photo
The problem with Riviere is that he doesn’t know where the goal is, cisse offers something that’s valuable and that’s goals. A lot of fans said they couldn’t wait for the AFCON to start because Perez will play up top etc. Well he’s done FA as well. Strikers are ultimately judged on goals.
As for Colback and Perez be in tired…come off it, they’ve had 2 free weekends because we got knocked out the FA Cup and they didn’t play in the 3rd round. So thats 3 free weekends and a holiday to Dubai. Do you not think they’ve had enough of a break?