Newcastle Losing Ground Under Inexperienced John Carver

Newcastle’s head coach John Carver is trying to get the players to recover from the hiding we took at Manchester City last time out, when we had our heaviest defeat of the season, 5-0 at Manchester City when we made them look like word-beaters.

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John Carver – 6 points from seven league games

The truth though was that Newcastle were simply hopeless, and that was after a full 10 days of preparation for the match.

So there were really no excuses for such a pathetic display.

This is what John Carver has told BBC Newcastle:

“The one thing about this situation is in life you’re going to get days like Man City.” “It’s how you deal with it.”

“I’m quite a positive guy. I’ll pick the bones out of this and I will take some responsibility because I’m part of the team and that dressing room.”

“But what I won’t have is anyone back biting or anyone sniping.” “My character won’t allow that to happen,” “We had problems and they have some world-class players and sides come here better than us, with all respect, and take a hiding.”

“The one thing about this group of players is they won’t give up.” “They were just better than us, passed it better, were better organised and I take a bit of responsibility for that.”

“I think I have learned when you come up against good sides how they overload the outside of the pitch and we found that difficult.” “At times there was two or three bodies up against our full-backs and it was difficult to deal with.”

“I know how difficult it is to win points in the Premier League and the points we have got over the last few weeks have been crucial points”

“And there’s plenty of points to play for and I will do everything I can in my means to put that right.”

John Carver’s inexperience as a manager has showed up quickly, and he has one win and three draws in his seven league games in charge, so we suppose that’s what he means by crucial points.

If we had lost all seven league games we would still be in 15th place on 26 points, which is what we had after 19 games when Alan Pardew left, but we’d still be one point above Sunderland.

So they may be crucial points but we are now 4 points behind 10th placed Stoke and 5 points behind 9th placed Swansea, so that gap has widened and our goal difference is a lot worse than those two clubs too.

It looks like finishing in the top ten is looking to be very difficult unless we can start putting some wins on the board.

In John’s time in charge over the last eight games in all competitions, we have had the biggest win of the season,  3-0 at Hull City, and the biggest defeat of the season, 5-0 at Manchester City.

We need to beat second bottom Aston Villa at home on Saturday – that’s really the bottom line for what needs to be done now.

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21 comments so far

  • JDdubai

    Feb 26, 2015 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #1

    The only reason Garde isnt already the coach is that he wanted to wait til season end.

    Still believe that McClaren or Garde will get the job in the end depending on who will come cheaper most likely..

    Carver’s chances have gone surely, would have needed a 70% win record to put the pressure on for me.

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 26, 2015 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #2

    In Carver’s defence, we have played the top 2 away from home, and also Southampton who have spent the majority of the season in the top 4, and were in it when they beat us. Not to mention Burnley have drawn with City and Chelsea in the last 6/7 weeks as well as us.

    I’m not saying that Carver is the answer, far from it but it hasn’t been an easy set of fixtures. It is hardly like we were flying under AP, or at a similar time last year were picking up result after result. I think we would be probably on about the same had he stayed. Very little change really.

  • geordie157

    Feb 26, 2015 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #3

    Carver hopefully had learnt two things, not to play Anita or Williamson because they are awful.

    Start abeid and give satka a chance at the back.

  • Our Toon

    Feb 26, 2015 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #4

    Why would a manager who is unemployed want to wait until the summer to accept a job that was available to him in January?

  • cyprus

    Feb 26, 2015 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #5

    From previous article on us chasing a totally unknown English Coach:

    Ed mate,
    you’re coming down to the level of us mere posters…
    ‘It seems, maybe, we think and more it seems’.
    It seems to me that maybe you’re making things up. At least that’s what we (me and myself) think 😉

  • Harley

    Feb 26, 2015 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #6

    This is ridiculous. Carver saying he thinks he learned that when playing good teams bla bla.
    We don’t need someone who’s learning how to be a manager, we need a ready made one now before it’s too late.
    Carver can go and learn all this new managerial stuff down the divisions, not at a club our size.

  • Our Toon

    Feb 26, 2015 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #7

    Geordie 157

    Think it was clear for all to see that Anita had very little support from anyone of his other pals against Citeh. Abeid came on and he had the same issues, bottom line is We are carrying players. It’s so easy to point fingers at the 2 obvious mistakes both Anita and Willo made but what about the lack of support for any of the other goats?

    Haidara was ripped apart and identified as the weak link, Colback and Sissoko very rarely tracked runners….They stood off and jogged back. Citeh strikers scored from open play once, Silva got 2 and nasri got 1 from midfield!!

  • Our Toon

    Feb 26, 2015 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #8

    Goats haha, that should read goals

  • John Tudor

    Feb 26, 2015 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #9

    this man is not the dogs bollox he is more like the dogs ar53

  • lesh

    Feb 26, 2015 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #10

    How the hell can Carver believe he should take some responsibility for Citeh being better organised than us? Who sets the team and its tactics up for matches – the cat?

    Repost from previous…

    Stuart Ashley does love to play games with the fans and he’ll continue to do so. Had he not faced all if the post-Keegan abuse from fans, I think things would have been much different. The crap ge got and continues to get is understandable yet he continues to be spiteful, doing his level best to run the Club on a shoestring and provoke the fans. He’s taking the pi$$.

  • lesh

    Feb 26, 2015 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #11



    Ashley does…..

  • Wellian

    Feb 26, 2015 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #12

    Anyone who remembers manager Gordon Lee and his sidekick Richard Dinnis will see similarities in the NUFC management situation then, as compared with now.
    Lee was appointed in 1975 and his arrogance and self importance soon upset many fans,(sound familiar?).
    His “no stars” policy resulted in him selling Supermac to Arsenal, which again caused great controversy.
    Everton poached Lee in 1977 and his first team coach, Richard Dinnis,who had never played professional football,was appointed as caretaker. Dinnis was popular with the players who threatened to strike if Dinnis was not appointed full time.
    He was given a 2 year contract, and after a promising start, results went downhill. Player power failed to save a man who was clearly out of his depth.
    Dinnis was replaced by disciplinarian manager Bill McGarry, who was brought in to sort out the players.
    Is history about to be repeated?

  • JDdubai

    Feb 26, 2015 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #13

    @Ourtoon at 4

    Garde said he wasnt ready for a new job yet and wanted to wait until summer. Carr met Garde in January in Manchester and only frustration was that he wanted to wait til summer.

    Things could easily change before summer comes around obviously but iv put a cheeky 50 on him anyway at 7/1..lets see.

  • Oldgit1

    Feb 26, 2015 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #14

    I have no time for this man carver, he brags about being a true Geordie yet still plays a weakened side in the cup match. He is a scoundrel of the first order. He is a liar and is so not upto running my great club. If he was born in Birmingham he would have been shown the door long ago. Get rid of this Pratt

  • Lindisfarne

    Feb 26, 2015 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #15

    previous article:

    ….”The finances were a lot worse under Shepherd”….

    Is this true? I know there were a few bad decisions and the finances were going south but is the club not in more debt now?

  • Lindisfarne

    Feb 26, 2015 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #16

    ….“I think I have learned when you come up against good sides how they overload the outside of the pitch and we found that difficult.”….

    I think it is more to do with exploiting the space available and poorly coached sides try to stick rigidly to a system or have over emphasis / imbalance in player selection that makes them fallible.

    JC has been up against some of the best sides and also some of the worse and fared no better, the position is beyond his abilities but it is not his fault. The only thing he is culpable of is taking the job on and remaining, but it is his dream come true.

    IF there is a deliberate policy to wait for individuals who will be available in the summer, the best scenario would have been to support JC with an experienced second. Bringing someone new in would have potentially ignited the situation and given the players something different to think about other than their boss walking out on them and being replaced with the assistant.

  • stuart no9

    Feb 26, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #17

    8stuart no9 // Feb 26, 2015 at 9:49 AM

    Lesh —–exactly. But it’s his club , why does he feel the need to spite us when realistically he could have a super team here . He could have one of the best teams in Europe and let’s be honest , if he wanted he could have a champions league cup winning side in his possession . Yeah I mean that , we could rule Europe , so why damage dreams that every owner would kill for all for the sake of resentment to the clubs fans . He should be sayingf@@k you lot , I’m here and I’m going to show you lot you are wrong for wanting me out . Coz in the end it will just prove we were right to want him out and it will prove him wrong . Why is he doing it ???? . I would love to be in his position and so would tjousands of potential owners . He is just proving to everyone world wide what a nasty juvenile he really is .

  • stuart no9

    Feb 26, 2015 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #18

    Also. I don’t go for all this — yeah but we played city , a top team c@@p— Bradford played Chelsea , what happened ? Cambridge drew with Man Utd , bradford beat Sunderland . So what point are people trying to put over when they mention the quality of the opposition we are plying?? It’s an excuse Not a reason .

  • lesh

    Feb 26, 2015 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #19

    stuart no9 @17

    You’ve hit the nail on the head!

    A shrink would have a field day with him and the background to his selfish, sociopathic and penny-pinching behaviour

  • Pop n Wyn

    Feb 26, 2015 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #20

    John Carver quoted as saying he pleaded with Lee Charnley not to sell Pappis Cisse a few weeks ago, and that he was so relieved it did not happen.

    Well according to Carver 4 weeks ago he said he was just there to coach the team and all other business was not his concern, now he says he was pleading for us to keep Cisse, i find it quite unbelievable that we could even contemplate letting Cisse go at this stage of the season, the way things are going.

    No John, a Manager has to have a voice, or you just become a sheet on a line and a pure scapegoat.

    So John if you had stuck to your statement about only coaching you and us would b

  • The overrated Frenchman

    Feb 26, 2015 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #21

    So top sides flood the outside of the pitch says Carver….that would be why we lined up with the full backs stood next to the centre backs then…jesus christ.


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