Newcastle Players Star In Forest Revival


Both Karl Darlow and Jamaal Lascelles played the whole game in Nottingham Forest’s 2-1 home win against high-flying Bournemouth last night, and new manager Dougie Freedman is starting to turn things around at Forest.

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Jamaal Lascelles being congratulated after scoring equalizer

The game didn’t start well for Forest as they were 1-0 down after only 3 minutes with a goal from Andrew Surman,  but Newcastle player Jamaal  Lascelles equalized on 21 minutes and then captain Henri Lansbury, the former Arsenal player, put them ahead just before half time.

And Forest were able to get a victory that took them into 9th place in the Championship on 47 points.

But that’s still 12 points out of a playoff place with Bournemouth slipping to joint 4th place on 59 points.

During the latter days of manager Stuart Pearce in charge, both Darlow and Lascelles lost their first team places, but since the former Newcastle left-back was fired in early February, things are starting to look up at Nottingham.

Pearce was replaced by former Crystal Palace and Bolton Wanderers manager Dougie Freeman, and both Newcastle players have regained their places, and Forest are unbeaten in their first five matches under Freedman.

In fact they have four wins and a draw in those games, and their goal difference has also improved by +8, so Dougie has taken 13 points from five games, and Forest are surging up the table.

Let’s hope they can keep it up.

Jamaal has played 17 times for Forest with one goal this season, and goalkeeper Karl Darlow has made 31 appearances.

Karl Darlow and Jamaal Lascelles are on loan for the season at Nottingham Forest, and are expected to join Newcastle’s first team squad in the summer,  and fight for their first team places at Newcastle.

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88 comments so far

  • Our Toon

    Feb 26, 2015 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #1

    J DUBAI

    I wouldn’t waste my money on any foreign manager coming in, I’d put a cheeky punt on someone internal getting the job….could even be Beardsley!! I don’t see any scenario where MA starts to change his ways

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  • Lindisfarne

    Feb 26, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #2

    previous article:

    ….“I think I have learned when you come up against good sides how they overload the outside of the pitch and we found that difficult.”….

    I think it is more to do with exploiting the space available and poorly coached sides try to stick rigidly to a system or have over emphasis / imbalance in player selection that makes them fallible.

    JC has been up against some of the best sides and also some of the worse and fared no better, the position is beyond his abilities but it is not his fault. The only thing he is culpable of is taking the job on and remaining, but it is his dream come true.

    IF there is a deliberate policy to wait for individuals who will be available in the summer, the best scenario would have been to support JC with an experienced second. Bringing someone new in would have potentially ignited the situation and given the players something different to think about other than their boss walking out on them and being replaced with the assistant.

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  • midweek weekend

    Feb 26, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #3

    Is anyone else seriously worried about our next half a dozen games

    Villa home: fair enough We should win but new manager syndrome might be factor
    United home: in our current form can’t see us winning here
    Everton home: we should But everton are improving
    Arsenal home home: loss
    Sunderland away: we can’t win derbies so Lose again
    Liverpool away: no chance Liverpool inform now
    Tottenham home: spurs will be pushing for top 4 tough game doubt we we’ll win

    That’s 7 extremely tough games villa everton and Sunderland are must win anything less than that and we’ll be near or in the bottom 3, next few weeks will shape our future

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  • geordie157

    Feb 26, 2015 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #4

    Villa game worries me, if benteke finds some form we could be in trouble.

    With colback out, I’d be tempted to put Raylor in the middle alongside abeid and sissoko. Cabella, Perez and maybe riviere up top.

    It’s Aarons back? If so Aarons and cisse can give us options off the bench.

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  • BoyDoneGood

    Feb 26, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #5

    Prediction? Maybe 2-3 wins 2-3 draws 6-8 losses out of last 12. 40-43 points, finish about 12th considering the number of even poorer teams below us – there’ll be a whole bunch in the 30’s. But that’s just my guess.

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  • BoyDoneGood

    Feb 26, 2015 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #6

    Can’t add up this morning: 40-44 points.

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  • BoyDoneGood

    Feb 26, 2015 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #7

    Of those 8-12 points, 4-6 from first half dozen. I wouldn’t predict particular games with any confidence because there are as many upsets as expecteds.

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  • BandB

    Feb 26, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #8

    Boy Done Good,

    Good morning.
    Thank you for taking the chance yesterday to explain some of your thinking.
    And also for doing it without resorting to spluttering, splenetic rage.

    I was interested that when asked why you believe in Ashley, you said it was because he was a businessman.
    This argument has been used before, notably by ToonDarnSarf.
    Like you, he used to unfurl the word as if it were a synonym for “arch angel”.
    “Is there a businessman in the house?”
    You have to accept this doesn’t have the effect of making everyone cross themselves with hushed reverence.
    The defining characteristic of many business people I have met has been their higher than average willingness to tell half-truths to advantage themselves at one’s disadvantage.

    You also sucked in your cheeks and firmly tutted-tutted the “over-spending” of the Keegan and Robson eras.
    Over-spending, of course, is in the eye of the beholder. One person’s over-spending being another’s properly-funded operation.
    It may have been an era when outlay was not matched with hard success.
    But it was, I think most fans agree, a period of hope, unity, entertainment and competitiveness. Ideas that seemed to leave your heart cold.
    The Beatles wrote very well about people who enjoy the puritannical rigours of scrimping and saving and the virtues of rationing out life’s joys.

    As I predicted, you swiftly moved your attack to the claim that Newcastle United had always been a nowt little club.
    You told one poster that if he wanted success he should support Chelsea or Barcelona.
    Chelsea was the first visiting team I saw play. They were struggling to avoid relegation to the old second division at the time. I wonder if their fans get a warm glow of nostalgia when recalling that era?

    So, can I turn this on its head.
    Instead of telling other people who they should support, who do your not yourself take up Barnsley or Preston North End, or some other town or city that can no longer support Premier League football.?
    There you could bask in the virtuous, self-righteous, self-imolating enjoyment of life on a shoestring, knowing that you are no glory supporter.

    Because Newcastle is not that city.

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  • BandB

    Feb 26, 2015 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #9

    Old third division.
    I can’t count this morning either.

    My guess for a finish would be 13/14th.
    Which I think Pardew would have been happy with at the beginning of the season.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Feb 26, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #10

    Chron reporting JC “will concentrate on trying to coax a much more coherent performance out of the senior players who let the team down last Saturday.” and “Carver is pondering starting with Mehdi Abeid and Gabriel Obertan”.

    Which would possibly mean:
    Cisse
    Gouffran-Sissoko-Obertan
    Anita-Abeid
    Haidarra-Collo-Willo-Janmaat
    Krul

    Possibly R.Taylor instead of Anita, but on the whole that should be a team that can deal with Villa if they play as a cohesive unit.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Feb 26, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #11

    Sometimes it is nice to indulge in nostalgia for a few minutes then heave a deep sigh and think about what may have been.

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/my-vision-for-the-toon-1500450

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  • Lindisfarne

    Feb 26, 2015 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #12

    midweek weekend

    I am not worried about any of the upcoming matches as there are nine teams below us who would all have to vastly improve. Whilst not being unduly optimistic, one win and a few draws is probably all we need to avoid relegation.

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  • midweek weekend

    Feb 26, 2015 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #13

    Lindisfarne yeah I agree 1 win and couple of draws will probably be enough, it’s just I can see alot of defeats coming our way which makes our whole situation worse, overall been a poor season thank god we went on that little unbeaten run earlier on the season other wise we would right down there

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  • Lindisfarne

    Feb 26, 2015 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #14

    Seven teams to be correct!!!!

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  • Lindisfarne

    Feb 26, 2015 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #15

    1W 3D 6L should hopefully see is safe. JC will not win any plaudits and hopefully will not secure the position permanently. Another positive is that AP is gone but who can predict how low MA will go?
    (Physically he can not lay any lower than 2 feet)

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  • stuart no9

    Feb 26, 2015 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #16

    Don’t forget all these lower sides are playing decent football . Leicester , burnley Everton, palace are all giving it a go . Watching MOTD these clubs are not getting turned over like we are . We will have to be at our very best if we are going to get anything out of the remaining games and that includes everyone . if last weeks shambles is anything to go by , don’t expect too much and expect burnley and the likes to fight and make it very difficult for us in the run in .

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  • BandB

    Feb 26, 2015 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #17

    stuart,

    Of the teams we have yet to play, only Villa, QPR and Leicester are below us in the current form table, and the latter two we play away from home at the dog-fight end of the season. Our goal difference is also that of a team in the relegation placings.

    We really do have to find Carver and the players can find some form and fight soon.

    No points can be taken for granted. I hope there is a contingency plan.

    If Garde is sitting silently on a signed contract, as many think he is, surely he can be parachuted in?

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  • toon kk

    Feb 26, 2015 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #18

    I would take relegation as a blessing in disguise. I would love to see the look on the slugs face if we went down.
    It would be much better for the fans at least we could compete.

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  • davetoon

    Feb 26, 2015 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #19

    When every place is worth around £1m you would think Mashley might actually give a fcuuk.

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  • lesh

    Feb 26, 2015 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #20

    davetoon

    I too have wondered why at about £1m a place, Ashley hasn’t been concerned enough about dropping a few places.

    Last season was a prime example when we were staring relegation in the face and he still spent nowt in the January break.

    There’s clearly some financial advantage in sacrificing a few million in prize money for the sake of spending a few in transfer fees. Obviously agent fees and wages must’ve been factored in as part of the cost of buying a player.

    But when that’s taken against losing out on tens of millions from relegation, he’s obviously looked at the odds of that happening and gambled accordingly.

    Is that astuteness or recklessness? Beats me – especially when Ashley’s thinking seems out if kilter with most if not all other owners.

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  • lesh

    Feb 26, 2015 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #21

    BandB

    As seen with Notts Forest under Freeman and Palace under you know who, new managers can create a bounce and rejuvenate a club.

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  • optimistic prime

    Feb 26, 2015 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #22

    Jdubai

    Garde said he wasnt ready for a new job yet and wanted to wait until summer. Carr met Garde in January in Manchester and only frustration was that he wanted to wait til summer.

    I remember you saying you spoke to Carr a few weeks back, is this from the horses mouth??

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  • DokToon

    Feb 26, 2015 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #23

    “The one thing about this group of players is they won’t give up.”

    yeah, until the 29th second of that match…

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Feb 26, 2015 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #24

    optimistic prime
    Jdubai
    Garde said he wasnt ready for a new job yet and wanted to wait until summer.

    The French press have said he wants some of his coaching staff from Lyon and they cannot leave until seasons end

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  • BandB

    Feb 26, 2015 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #25

    lesh,

    After the defeat on Saturday, Carver’s theme was back-bititng and how it wouldn’t be tolerated.
    Five days later, it still is.
    This is bunker talk.
    The stage at which the plot has been lost and the hunt for scapegoats has started.
    It worries me. A lot.

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  • lesh

    Feb 26, 2015 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #26

    Jeff from Benwell

    That piece by Chris Mort was illuminating.

    Aye, nostalgia ain’t what it used to be.

    Sighhhhh

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  • davetoon

    Feb 26, 2015 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #27

    Yeah I dont understand it. Some business man. I guess he doesnt trust in Carr to buy the right players or Carver to coach them

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  • firebug666

    Feb 26, 2015 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #28

    DokToon

    This team has nothing to give up mate, they never actually get started.

    optimistic prime

    Think you flogging a dead horse with JD mate, I have tried several time to coax something out of him, still waiting for a straight answer.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Feb 26, 2015 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #29

    stuart no9

    Normally a point a game would get you relegated and 1.5 points gets you above 10th so it is true that if all of the teams below us went on a ‘good’ run they would finish above us. Leicester would have to double their points tally so far to get 36 points but with 12 matches remaining another 18 points ( x 1.5 ) are available.
    6W 0D 6L
    5W 3D 4L
    4W 6D 2L
    3W 9D 0L
    Are all the possible results to achieve a further 18 points from 12 games. If we only achieved 36 points by the end of the season those clubs currently at the bottom on 22 would need a minimum of 3W 6D 3L (or 4W 3D 5L) which is not impossible. But a total of seven would need to equal or better those results.

    If this view point does not quite persuade you then perhaps knowing that 5 of the clubs below us have a majority (7 or more) of matches against those currently in 10th or above offers some comfort. However many (and us) have fallen thinking they were to big to go down.

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  • lesh

    Feb 26, 2015 at 12:08 PM

    Comment #30

    BandB

    Your right of course.

    Carver was given a job that was and is way beyond him. He’ll be in a hell of a state and I feel sorry for him as he’s realised that there’s a bit more too it than motivational pep-talks and issuing sound-bites.

    We’ve seen an example of his inexperience when he’s fined Colbeck for collecting yellows when maybe an understanding arm round his shoulders and reassurance that he understands the lad’s passion has got him into trouble may have been more effective.

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  • DokToon

    Feb 26, 2015 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #31

    firebug,

    I stand corrected…

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  • stuart no9

    Feb 26, 2015 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #32

    BandB @17 —- yeah I’m sure that there will come a point if we are getting sucked in that Ashley will have to take action and that his spiteful plan against us fans is backfiring .
    I think a plan is in place or hope in place in case the worst comes to the worst and immediate actionis required . Your guess is as good as mine !

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  • BandB

    Feb 26, 2015 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #33

    lesh,

    I almost mentioned the Colback thing myself.
    It rather smacks of a shooting at dawn…intended to instill discipline.
    Within their rights…but was it wise?
    Moral and discipline appears to be a problem.

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  • BandB

    Feb 26, 2015 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #34

    stuart,

    my guess is they have done the sums and are sweating on them.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Feb 26, 2015 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #35

    ….”The manager is due back at his desk within days, as the summer transfer market prepares to slip into gear, with the club’s fans expecting big things over the weeks ahead.”…

    This quotation is still echoing from when Chris Mort was replaced.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/2303463/Chris-Mort-quits-as-Newcastle-chairman-Derek-Llambias-named-managing-director.html

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  • optimistic prime

    Feb 26, 2015 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #36

    Firebug

    He’s scared of becoming the resident ITK 😉

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  • Lindisfarne

    Feb 26, 2015 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #37

    We have matches against Villa, Sxxxd, Leicester and QPR, if we can get two wins we will be laughing. Lets just hope JC can hold it together personally and not totally wreck the performances of the the team.

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  • JDdubai

    Feb 26, 2015 at 12:40 PM

    Comment #38

    @22

    Yep. But also that McClaren was looking favourite – think it depends a lot on how much each + their backroom staff will cost knowing our frugal owner but I wouldnt look outside those 2 right now. Think Garde drifted in the odds so looked a better bet to put on that the favourite.

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  • stuart no9

    Feb 26, 2015 at 12:40 PM

    Comment #39

    Lindisfarne —– bit complicated that mate . For me anyways , but I’m getting my head around it .

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Feb 26, 2015 at 12:40 PM

    Comment #40

    Anyone watching that City game would have said Carver has lost the dressing room but under Pardew this happened quite a lot in games and then we would then go on a winning streak with everyone trying really hard so its difficult to say

    If we cant beat Villa though we deserve to go down as they are awful Ron Vlaar is suspended so they wont be as solid at the back

    Carver needs to do something if Cabella , Obertan , Aarons and Sammy are match fit then 3 out of those 4 need to start with Cabella in the no 10 and the other 2 on the wings all of them have pace to stretch the play

    This is a must win game for us and we have the quality to do it but if Gouffran starts on the left wing and Cabella or Perez on the right wing we might as well go home its time to play players in their proper positions

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