Carver’s Record Shouldn’t Be Good Enough But ….


In ten games played this year under John Carver Newcastle have two wins and five defeats and that is not the kind of record that should get John the job full time in the summer.

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John Carver – could still get the job with mediocre record

Glenn Roeder took over Newcastle in similar circumstances nine years ago in 2006 after Graeme Souness had been fired and he eventually got the job full time – for a year before he was fired.

But in Glenn’s case after 10 games played in all competitions he had five wins, one draw and four defeats, and in fact the last four games were all defeats to Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Charlton.

But then in the next seven games, which were the final seven games of the season, he had six wins and one draw to take Newcastle up to 7th place in the league table with 56 points.

We have only exceeded 50 points once in Mike Ashley reign of nearly eight years as the Newcastle owner. 🙁

So even though John has not done well so far this year he can always look to Glenn’s record and start putting together some wins.

There are a number of things that are in his favor with Lee Charnley and Mike Ashley, that could still get him the job with a mediocre record:

  • He is easy to get on with and doesn’t question or criticize what Lee Charnley and Mike Ashley are doing at the club – much like Alan Pardew was, before he sickened of having his hands tied behind his back by Ashley not strengthening the squad and selling his best players and not replacing them
  • John is the easy and cheap choice as head coach, and wouldn’t command the wages of say a Remi Garde or Frank de Boer
  • He is a Geordie and Newcastle may want to appoint a Geordie manager for the first time in a long time (Shearer was the last Geordie to manager the club but only for 8 games in 2009)
  • The squad has been decimated with injuries and suspensions and loaning out players, and that is to John’s advantage – because he can always bring this up in discussions – and say he would have done so much  better if players like Siem de Jong, Steven Taylor and Cheick Tiote had been available and he had more than five fit defenders available
  • John has even talked about possibly getting a three and a half year deal – so where did he get that idea from – unless Lee Charnley has discussed it with him

So because Carver would be such an easy choice for Charnley and Ashley, and would be very willing to fit into the system already in place at Newcastle, Carver could still get the job – even with a mediocre record.

It’s almost like they could be looking for the reasons to appoint him in the summer, rather than the reasons (like his record for example) not to appoint him.

And that’s the scenario that really scares us.

Should John Carver Be The Head Coach At Newcastle?

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8 comments so far

  • Reyantoon

    Mar 7, 2015 at 8:39 AM

    Comment #1

    Cabella and Elliot back.Colback as well from suspension.Haidara should be available too.Something to look positive in the next games..

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  • BrightonMag

    Mar 7, 2015 at 8:41 AM

    Comment #2

    *yawn* can we just move on from this? All I’ve heard recently is carver this and carver that… I don’t want him in permanently, but just change the record, it’s getting very tedious

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  • toon kk

    Mar 7, 2015 at 8:44 AM

    Comment #3

    Boycott it’s the only way.
    Also time for more protests.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Mar 7, 2015 at 8:45 AM

    Comment #4

    He has the job until June come what may , so discussing it now is not helpful and somewhat pointless.
    Paradoxically his job description of Head Coach makes it more difficult for him . Results on the field can be the only benchmark for his performance . Even Ashleys biggest fans cannot deny he is ruthless man when he has to be.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Mar 7, 2015 at 8:45 AM

    Comment #5

    Ed…do you remember what happened to Glenn after he got the job full time?

    …that’s what happens to people who are not qualified!

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  • Lindisfarne

    Mar 7, 2015 at 8:54 AM

    Comment #6

    Bit pricey like, but an excellent alternative to the officially sponsored club shirt.

    http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/03/special-edition-black-and-white-shirt-great-cause/

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  • lochinvar

    Mar 7, 2015 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #7

    So the FA met last night and decided on the necessary ban for Evans but haven’t yet put out the announcement due on Saturday.
    Smell a rat anyone .
    Or will the FA prove impartial judgement not influenced by the bleatings of innocence from Man Utd

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  • wynsleap

    Mar 7, 2015 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #8

    Reyantoon – Sorry to disagree mate but there is NOTHING to be positive about at this club at the moment.
    Except, maybe, for the fact that I’m positive we have to get rid of Ashley if , indeed, we want a club to support.
    Can’t take any more of this guy. He’s killed our club, and all it stands for, for eight years. Another eight (and more) doesn’t even bear thinking about.

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