Newcastle Players Continue Incredible Run

Since Dougie Freedman took over from Stuart Pearce in early February as the Nottingham Forest manager, the Scot has been in charge for eight games and won seven of them with a 4-4 draw at bottom of the league Blackpool, which ironically is the only game Forest haven’t won.

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Dougie Freedman – fantastic initial record at Nottingham Forest

So Forest have taken 22 points from the last 24 available,  and are now in 9th place and now only 9 points out of a play-off place.

Before Dougie took over from Pearce Forest had lost six of their previous seven games, so it’s gone from famine to feast for fans since Freedman took over.

Who said a new manager couldn’t make an immediate difference?


In the final weeks of Pearce’s reign, the former Newcastle left-back had dropped both Newcastle players, goalkeeper  Karl Darlow and center-back Jamaal Lascelles, but since Freedman has come in he’s played both our players.

And it was a terrific result for Forest over the weekend, as they beat league leaders Middlesbrough 2-1 at home,  with goals from Gardner (34 mins) and Blackstock (65 mins) with former Sunderland player Grant Leadbitter scoring for Boro after 27 minutes.

Both Karl Darlow and Jamaal Lascelles played the whole game on Saturday, and it’s certainly an exciting time for Forest fans, and if they can keep up this pace they could still make a play-off place – and they would also be the side in form when the playoffs arrive.

Next up for Nottingham Forest is a tough game at Leeds United on Saturday,  and that’s a game between  a two time winner of the European Cup playing a club that reached the semi-finals of the same competition.

It will be good when both famous clubs make it back to the Premier League.

Karl Darlow and Jamaal Lascelles will join the Newcastle first team squad this summer, and will battle for a first team place next season.

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84 comments so far

  • DanToon

    Mar 9, 2015 at 1:49 PM

    Comment #1

    The lost 2-1 to Charlton last Wednesday, just saying.

  • jayphoto

    Mar 9, 2015 at 2:02 PM

    Comment #2

    amazing what appointing a new manager can do for a club….

  • toonincheek

    Mar 9, 2015 at 2:02 PM

    Comment #3

    I recall, a few weeks back, some posters were saying
    how Darlow and Lascelles must be rubbish if they
    can’t even make it into Forest 1st team.

    Seems more like Pearce was not playing them for some

    Just an example of how some people on this blog
    manage to find a negative side to anything.

    I can’t be bothered to check back – better things to do.
    Anyone want to own up?

  • lesh

    Mar 9, 2015 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #4

    Off this post but if Charnley’s seriously thinking about importing non-Brit players, there’s a problem with Carver – he can’t speak English!

  • thai-mag

    Mar 9, 2015 at 2:22 PM

    Comment #5

    Don’t tell Ashley or it will be a goalkeeper and a center back off our list of plays coming in next season

  • Thump

    Mar 9, 2015 at 2:23 PM

    Comment #6

    @DanToon: Even with the loss, they’re in much better form than they were under Psycho.

    @toonincheek: Pearcey was furious that he’d had two talents sold from under him and (iirc) didn’t play Lascelles because of his attitude after signing with us. Didn’t have much of a choice but to keep Darlow in the squad, though.

  • jayphoto

    Mar 9, 2015 at 2:26 PM

    Comment #7

    @toonincheek – I’m one of the people that pointed out Darlow only lost his place because the stand in played 3 or 4 blinding games in a row and became undroppable.
    He’s a solid keeper. Interested to see if he can push on and become a first choice premier league keeper. He must have eyes on an England squad spot if he can, theres hardly much in the line of English goalkeepers these days

    On Lascelles , to be fair his early form was horrific. His upturn in form might be something to do with his court case getting dropped a few weeks ago? hes a young lad and he could have been facing Jail time so I imagine that must have been a distraction and a worry for him.

  • jayphoto

    Mar 9, 2015 at 2:27 PM

    Comment #8

    probably didn’t help that the first pearce heard of the transfer was Lascelles bragging bout his new contract in the forest changing rooms…

  • jayphoto

    Mar 9, 2015 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #9

    the fact that he moves quicker than a cruise liner means I’m excited to have Lascelles back next season. Think he’ll be first team because the club paid a fair amount for him. He’s pretty good with distributing the ball too. Only question marks on him are his actual defending. A cardboard cut out of Lascelles would be an improvement on willo tho

  • DanToon

    Mar 9, 2015 at 2:40 PM

    Comment #10

    @Thump – Totally agree. I live and work in Notts and would like nothing more than to see Forest as a Premier League club once more… But facts are facts and they have lost unlike the article suggests.

  • geordiesteve520

    Mar 9, 2015 at 2:54 PM

    Comment #11

    Lascelles is the real deal, saw him a few times at the back end of last season and was genuinely impressed, talked in glowing terms down here and seen as the same type of player as Des Walker was – calm, quick, strong and good in the air – something we’ve not had for a while. Darlow was out on loan at Walsall and came back to Forest as 3rd choice but came in early doors last season and hasn’t looked back since – enormous potential but sadly won’t be recognised with us, unless we a. develop him well or b. get rid of Krul.

  • geordiesteve520

    Mar 9, 2015 at 2:54 PM

    Comment #12

    @Dantoon, me too!

  • croftus5678

    Mar 9, 2015 at 3:08 PM

    Comment #13

    lescalles will be an improvement on our defence without a doubt but lets not forget he’s far from the perfect cb and is prone to a good run of bad games himself !

    he’s still young but imo he’s a mid table cb as he stands atm the same as the rest of our cb’s with the only difference being he has age on his side and he’s a lot faster and better at heading than our current cb’s in which we need replacements for colo/willo so he will fill one void.

    darlow i think is awsome but not on par with krul over all a very decent backup if not main keeper but krul is the better. he’s better than elliott though by a mile imo.

    i’d like to see us sign micah richards though seeing as he will be cheap (dunno about his wages though) and use goofy as lb/rb cover as i reckon it suits his style of play.

    and surely chucky has to get a game now i mean what do we have to lose ?

  • mindshaft

    Mar 9, 2015 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #14

    Doubt Chucky will get a game we have Gouffran, Perz, Riviere, Armstrong all ahead of him in the pecking order and would probably give Gilliead or Heardman the nod over him.
    Obviously we didn’t do our homework on him and he must be really really poor in training

  • Jeff from Benwell

    Mar 9, 2015 at 3:30 PM

    Comment #15

    He has a slipped disc
    Ever had one ?
    Bad craic

  • toon kk

    Mar 9, 2015 at 3:32 PM

    Comment #16

    We have a budget squad made up of mainly championship quality, which Mash hopes will come good and he can sell on for large profits.
    Our more experienced players are second rate, add Carver and every player drops a notch.
    The worrying thing is alot of fans think we have a strong squad capable of being a top eight contenders.

  • lesh

    Mar 9, 2015 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #17

    Lascelles an darlow msy come in but you can bet your boots we’ll lose a CB and keeper.

    Squad strengthened? According to Charnley, yes!

    What bollocks

  • Jeff from Benwell

    Mar 9, 2015 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #18

    toon kk
    “We have a budget squad made up of mainly championship quality”

    Absolute Baloney

    Slag the club off if it rocks yer boat , but don’t make stuff up .

  • toon kk

    Mar 9, 2015 at 3:47 PM

    Comment #19

    Mash doesn’t buy ready quality he gets past it Carr to hunt out cheap kids, with so called potential.
    Why fans think Mash is suddenly going to open his cheque book and get top quality players in is beyond me.
    They wouldn’t come anyway.

  • croftus5678

    Mar 9, 2015 at 3:50 PM

    Comment #20

    @18 jeff

    i agree

    we have a few i’d class as top 4 team players in janmaat/sissoko/cisse/cabella (rolando hasnt had a proper run yet to confirm if he’s with these or not tbh) ect but the rest mostly mid table or slightly under with not many championship players apart from the youngsters still leaarning their trade which is understandable.

    but we do need better quality for a first 11 ! its ok having mid table squad to fill in for injuries ect but main team must be a higher quality than what we currently have.

  • toon kk

    Mar 9, 2015 at 3:57 PM

    Comment #21

    you need to concentrate on our players when they play, most really lack quality.
    We have some decent ones, but not a team you can be proud of. We often struggle to get the ball and can’t put two passes together when we do.
    Nearly every team in the premier league out play us. Fact!

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Mar 9, 2015 at 4:02 PM

    Comment #22

    I don’t think the problem is the quality of the players we buy. It’s more a case of us buying who ever on our shorlist who come cheapest instead of buying the right kind of player (the type needed)

    …the second problem is we keep selling players with out replacing them. You cannot have a system where you are only interested in signing players in the summer transfer window, but sells in the winter window.

    It just doesn’t add up!

    Combine that with championship coaching class (it’s not the majority of players whom are championship level)

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Mar 9, 2015 at 4:04 PM

    Comment #23

    It’s very unbalanced and amateurish run at Newcastle

  • Graeme

    Mar 9, 2015 at 4:09 PM

    Comment #24

    Croftus @ 20 – what you say is correct about needing better quality players – if we were trying to improve the squad to fight for a higher league placing.

    Unfortunately, there seems to be no desire to achieve this from FCB & “The Board” who are happy to be an established Mid-table team, generating a good return on his investment, through the TV money.

    There has been no attempt in the period since we were promoted to steadily improve the squad, year on year. In fact the oposite is exactly what has happened. As soon as we have a player who looks the part, we sell him at the first oportunity our valuation is approached.

    This weakens the team, which, together with the non replacement of the sold player, ensures we remain stagnant, in mid table. The Club are happy, the fans are frustrated, MA is contented and that is all that matters. We are no longer a competitive Football CLub; our objective, despite the platitudes from “Penfold” is to remain in mid table.

  • croftus5678

    Mar 9, 2015 at 4:12 PM

    Comment #25

    @24 graeme


  • toon kk

    Mar 9, 2015 at 4:22 PM

    Comment #26

    your right what you say, but alot of the players Mash is going for are turning into a gamble and like you say with our best player’s not being replaced with a like for like we’re actually going back over.
    Relying on only one proven goal scorer to save money is ridiculous.
    Poorly run club basically.

  • Mister Tuff

    Mar 9, 2015 at 4:29 PM

    Comment #27

    Cannot get my head around this concept of selling in January buying in the summer. does anyone know exactly why this is beneficial. Isit better for tax purposes for example.
    Whatever the reasons if a player is sold in January and not replaced in the summer we are disadvantaged (football wise) until the summer. Therefore we reduce our playing potential for 6 months each year (presuming it’s the better players that are sold). Cannot see that this process makes us stronger at all.

  • hibbit

    Mar 9, 2015 at 4:35 PM

    Comment #28

    jeff who are the prem / quality players you talk about at nufc give us your top 10 and no abuse just a straight answer

  • hibbit

    Mar 9, 2015 at 4:37 PM

    Comment #29

    we don’t have one world class player not one

  • toon kk

    Mar 9, 2015 at 4:43 PM

    Comment #30

    Mister tuff
    there’s just more players available at a more reasonable price, in the jan window clubs usually have to offer more money to prise a player away from their club. Which MA doesn’t like, although he doesn’t mind the selling on side.

  • Graeme

    Mar 9, 2015 at 4:45 PM

    Comment #31

    Mister Tuff @ 27 – It doesn’t make us stronger, it isnt beneficial to the team. It is however beneficial to FCB as players moving in January tend to carry a premium, therefore increasing the price paid.

    Buy in summer, cheap – sell in January at a premium = higher profit.

    Advantage to Club – NON.

  • Mister Tuff

    Mar 9, 2015 at 4:49 PM

    Comment #32

    Just been catching up on the Rangers situation and reproduce a quote from one of their directors – stood out since the sentiments could also be relevant to NUFC.

    “It is our intention to begin immediately the process of repairing the considerable damage caused to this great club by people who should never have been allowed anywhere near Rangers.

    “We have every right to look forward with hope instead of wondering each day what other outrageous or destructive decisions might be taken. The abuse of this club is at an end.”

    A mirror image of events at SJP I would suggest.

  • croftus5678

    Mar 9, 2015 at 4:53 PM

    Comment #33

    @29 hibbit

    thats too hasrh on the team imo

    if the question was aimed at me i’d answer;sissoko/krul/janmaat/cabella/cisse who i believe could play for a top 6 side and fit in very well imo then theres arguably rolando although personally i think he’s too untested atm

    my others to make up the 10 would not be the quality your after however and the pick of the rest would be;

    the quality is obv a long way off chelsea/manc/arsenal but not too much further away from liverpool/spurs/manu with 4 or 5 top class players if we was ever going to make them.

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Mar 9, 2015 at 5:06 PM

    Comment #34

    I have seen no proof of us not being able to get ad much for Cabs or other players in the summer as in January.

    …suggesting otherwise is just unsubstantiated!

    You have to remember ad well that when we are weakening our team the standard drops and some does the value of other players (look at Santon) and so does our prize money!

    Not good business!

  • toon kk

    Mar 9, 2015 at 5:14 PM

    Comment #35

    I agree we have half a dozen decent players, but not one would make a bench at any top club.
    Most of our squad aren’t premier league quality.
    That’s why we’re poor, it wasn’t all down to P45 and now Carver.
    Although a good coach wou get a bit more out of a average bunch.

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Mar 9, 2015 at 5:15 PM

    Comment #36

    *ad = as

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Mar 9, 2015 at 5:27 PM

    Comment #37

    toon kk …how about we get a decent coach first and talk again!

    …you conclude we have poor players and then name both Pardew and Carver as proof of the pudding!

    …that only proof we are poor because of poor management!

  • croftus5678

    Mar 9, 2015 at 5:35 PM

    Comment #38

    @35 toon kk

    thats fair enough we have a differ of opinions but in the end both want the best for our club.

    i agree on pards and carver though they both get too much unwarrented grief imo when i think most of us agree they are avg managers with avg players overall so why there is a fuss when we are only mid table i honestly dont know !

    ashley wont buy tried and tested players and wants us to grow cheap young talent but sells that talent when its about to hit its prime and then buys another young lad who will take another 4 years to get to that stage ect ect which imo means we will never have the team us fans want !

    if we can buy young but a bit better quality at a cheaper price (for example janmaat/sissoko) who are over the development stage and allready good players but can still improve a little i think thats where we may excell as we do well at finding those players as long as he pays the extra 4-5mil to get that quality.

  • jayphoto

    Mar 9, 2015 at 5:38 PM

    Comment #39

    Weve got no worldclass players. We buy world class potential and sell when they become world class!
    Sissoko, dejong and Cabella could become world class but thats about it.
    Janmaat, krul, tiote, , cisse, colback are decent premier league players no more no less

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Mar 9, 2015 at 5:40 PM

    Comment #40

    Jay…no team outside the top 6 buys world class players!


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