Newcastle Great Now Backs John Carver For Job


In his column in the Chronicle today,  former Newcastle great Bob Moncur has backed John Carver for the job at Newcastle, if he can get Newcastle into the top ten,  after all the injuries and suspensions Newcastle have had this season, and the squad is now down to the bare bones.

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John Carver – can still get top job at Newcastle

And it hasn’t helped that top scorer Papiss Cisse got himself banned for 7 games last week, and will now miss 10 games this season because of suspension.

This is some of what Bob Moncur has said today about John’s situation:

“I have seen John Carver at close hand working with the players at Newcastle United and I have to say it’s impressive to see.”  “The players are 100% behind him and you won’t meet a man with more passion for the club than John.”

“That’s why I don’t understand why some people are giving him a hard time at the moment.”  “John has taken over at the club during a difficult time because of injuries, and the Papiss Cisse incident has ended up being a disaster.”

“None of those factors are down to John Carver, who is working with an injury-hit squad.”

“I see where people are coming from in that perhaps John does not have the worldwide fame to attract players.”

“But he is so passionate about the cub he can still sell the club to them and that makes up for it.”  One thing is for sure he fits in with what the club are looking for.”

“He would work well with Lee Charnley and Graham Carr and I think three heads are better than one with transfers. Anybody who has managed knows how much pressure is on the shoulders of one man making the decisions.”

“JC already understands the rules, and if he did get that top-10 place he would deserve a crack at the job on a full-time basis.”

We’ve seen some headlines that say all the injuries and suspensions Newcastle have picked up this year will cost John the head coach job in the summer.

And while that may be true if we finish in 13th pace or something like that, the ridiculous situation Newcastle find themselves in could actually help John get the job –  and Bob as much as says that.

But John has to have a decent record over the full 20 games he will manage Newcastle this season.

So far that record is not good enough with only two wins in ten games.

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But if he can win say five game in the last ten – – that would give us 50 points – only the second time we would have done that since Mike Ashley took over in 2007 – the job could be his,  even though 90% of readers in our poll don’t want him as the new head coach.

He would be a very convenient choice for Mike Ashley and Lee Charnley – maybe too convenient.

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70 comments so far

  • sing in the corner

    Mar 10, 2015 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #1

    Old boys’ network obviously at play here. Whatever anyone thinks about his relationship with the players and how he goes about things on the training pitch – he simply doesn’t appear to have the depth of tactical awareness, intelligence and leadership to be in charge and see things with a wide enough persective, Its nothing personal…everyone can see this job at this time is way to big for him.

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  • sing in the corner

    Mar 10, 2015 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #2

    Apart from the suits of course…

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 10, 2015 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #3

    moncur is turning in to a total creep.

    Anyone with a pair of eyes can see what NUFC needs and Carver it aint.

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  • nut meg

    Mar 10, 2015 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #4

    Part of the criteria for the job is a record of bringing young players through to the first team /improving the present players/ to be tactically astute.John Carver doesn’t have that. Who’s next to talk him up?

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  • hibbit

    Mar 10, 2015 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #5

    to be honest if this blog is any thing to go by the fans are losing interest very quickly john carver could be the straw that broke the camels back and a lot of fans could just turn away people will only take so much and its the oddest thing that turns them

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  • beermonkey

    Mar 10, 2015 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #6

    hibbit

    said the same a while ago
    but I still think there are enough fans out there willing to wait and see what the summer brings

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  • hibbit

    Mar 10, 2015 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #7

    beermonnkey wait for what…. hopefully ashley sells…. for me thats the only solution …….who to is another thing

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  • expatmag

    Mar 10, 2015 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #8

    Beer
    .summer will bring exactly what it has brought in previous years…….disappointment and bemusement

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  • davetoon

    Mar 10, 2015 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #9

    Sums it up in one line – “One thing is for sure he fits in with what the club are looking for.”

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  • beermonkey

    Mar 10, 2015 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #10

    hibbit

    rumour has it there waiting for a decent manager and some new players

    Ashley isn’t cheap and he hasn’t been thinning out the squad to save wages he has been clearing out for the new manager to spend big in the summer

    cant see him selling up

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  • beermonkey

    Mar 10, 2015 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #11

    expat

    I know

    and as it stands now even with the minimal spend we will do in the summer with the squad so thin on quality and carver in control the only outcome is relegation

    maybe its an Ashley pards plan Ashley gets paid pards gets a bumper contract out of palace he does so poor next season they sack him in nov he gets paid off and rejoins us before xmas just in time to dump us out the fa cup and get 2 weeks in Dubai

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  • hibbit

    Mar 10, 2015 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #12

    beermonkey you can kid some of the people some of the time but you cannot kid all the people all th time its gone on to long no one has any faith in this lot anymore

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  • BandB

    Mar 10, 2015 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #13

    beermonkey,

    And how does that square with Moncur’s statement that Carver fits the bill as to what the club is looking for?

    Moncur isn’t just musing out loud here. He is a club employee.

    One must assume for a start that they already regard him as a man who CAN develop young talent.

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  • expatmag

    Mar 10, 2015 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #14

    Beer

    The clear out will be compensated by the return from loan of Lascelles, Darlow, Vuckic and Marveaux. The offering of new contracts to Jonas and Raylor. The fat twat will also appoint Carver full time, tell him the return of De Jong and Saylor are like new signings, sell Sissoko Tiote and Krul for 30 million quid and spend half that on second rate french replacements, pocket the rest as well as this seasons sky money.

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  • expatmag

    Mar 10, 2015 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #15

    If he does what I have described above, I would expect some serious damage to be done to his welfare.

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  • lesh

    Mar 10, 2015 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #16

    Ffs

    Why are they making a big thing over injuries? They’re a fact of life especially at Newcastle and a good coach would show the tactical astuteness they want. Carver hasn’t!

    It’s astonishing that Club officials are coming out with supportive statements at this stage – other clubs’ officials say nowt when an interim’s in charge.

    But them again, I think we’re used to stupidity from the club under Ashley.

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  • Munster Mag

    Mar 10, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #17

    No thanks

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  • BandB

    Mar 10, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #18

    lesh

    I said on Saturday that “John deserves a chance to show what he can do without the injuries and suspensions” would emerge from the club soon.
    And bang on cue….
    I presume Bobby Moncur is also a “cynic, nihilist and club hater.”

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  • beermonkey

    Mar 10, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #19

    expat

    in year from august to august Ashley looks set to walk away with 100mill whilst leaving us with a squad bereft of quality and a manager not capable of developing a cold
    how any1 has any faith in the regime is beyond me

    I think there are a lot of fans out there with the wait and see attitude most of the 50k that go each week must be like
    mix into that the way the press seem to think all is good,
    look how they were with pardew, every1 in the media claimed he was doing great when the facts claimed different

    i enjoy the blog but it doesn’t offer a balanced argument as those who oppose the majority tend to get hounded i am sure they read but don’t post

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  • BoyDoneGood

    Mar 10, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #20

    If he finishes in the top 10 he’ll deserve an Olympic Gold Medal. Never happen. Divven’t fash yersels.

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  • BandB

    Mar 10, 2015 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #21

    beermonkey,

    There was also a time recently when the boot was on the other foot and people like Mactoon and Solano were being driven off.

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  • The next Mike Williamson

    Mar 10, 2015 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #22

    Personally I just want to see a manager who is tactically astute and has a good passing attacking philosphy and can bring through the next Gazza or Beardsley. Carver is not that man. He’s more of a binman than a tactician. Playing Riviere proves he’s clueless.

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  • BandB

    Mar 10, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #23

    BoyDone Good,

    But don’t you think we’ll finish eighth to 11th and isn’t it disrespectful to think otherwise?

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  • hibbit

    Mar 10, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #24

    beermonkey spot on if you don’t toe the party line the daft boys drive them off and then all you hear is one side of the argument

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  • beermonkey

    Mar 10, 2015 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #25

    bandb

    its not right but it is easy at times to get swept along

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  • BandB

    Mar 10, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #26

    beermonkey,

    Do you recall when Pardew ran up five wins in the autumn? It was reprisals time on here, and will be again at the sign of the first uptick in fortune.

    I would to know the source of the rumours you refer to, and why you feel they are more believable than what Bobby Moncur is saying, and what came out of the Fans’ Forum, i.e., that John Carver’s position will be reviewed at the end of the season.

    What is there in that to suggest the REAL plan is to bring in a top manager and give them a huge pot to spend?

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  • Pop n Wyn

    Mar 10, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #27

    John Carver get your boys in the top ten and get that lovely jubbly bonus, you may get another shot at the title!!!

    I know it sounds synical it I do feel a large percentage of the players have that bonus as their number one priority.

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  • lesh

    Mar 10, 2015 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #28

    B&B

    Moncur waited for your inspiration for ‘his’ words!

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  • beermonkey

    Mar 10, 2015 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #29

    bandb

    i do remember the run in the autumn and a lot of people change there mind depending on whether we are winning or losing

    don’t think i said i believe them
    but i do know fans that read things like charnley the fans forum and are more than happy to wait and see what happens in the summer and there not alone
    how many times have you read on here i am going to wait till the summer then decide whether to renew my st

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  • Sav

    Mar 10, 2015 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #30

    Trouble is, as with Pardew, many of us feel the right manager with a powerful reputation would put pressure on Mashley to change his miserly ways and ramp up the ambition of the club. As if somehow de Boer or Garde are going to come in and start giving orders. But in all reality, that is not what will happen. First and foremost because those guys won’t land the job at NUFC. Yet any manager who is prepared to work with the regime is quickly blackened as a collaborator. It is a sad situation and hard to see a way out of it for the benefit of Newcastle United.

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  • Sav

    Mar 10, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #31

    Trouble is, in berating Carver, as with Pardew, many of us feel the right manager with a powerful reputation would put pressure on Mashley to change his miserly ways and ramp up the ambition of the club. As if somehow de Boer or Garde are going to come in and start giving orders. But in all reality, that is not what will happen. First and foremost because those guys won’t land the job at NUFC. Yet any manager who is prepared to work with the regime is quickly blackened as a collaborator. It is a sad situation and hard to see a way out of it for the benefit of Newcastle United.

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  • John Tudor

    Mar 10, 2015 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #32

    many have already turned their backs on nufc
    i can justifiably say i am one who has
    regime out

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 10, 2015 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #33

    we can say ash is miserly but under current and past management we have seen next to no return on

    Cabella 12M,
    Riviere, 6M,
    MYM 6M,
    Anita 6M,
    Siem De Jong 6M, etc

    That’s the best part of 40M and management has to carry the can sometimes as I can’t believe they all became poor overnight.

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  • Sav

    Mar 10, 2015 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #34

    Many will be disappointed to hear a NUFC legend, wittingly or not, reflect the fortunes and mid-table ambitions of this great club so precisely. Does he want Carver to be given the job of Head Coach permanently? Perhaps it is a clever bluff, because, from where we stand right now, I’d say Moncur has set the bar pretty high for Carver to achieve 10th place. Given the current state of the squad, Cisse’s ban and JC’s record to date even that will be an achievement.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 10, 2015 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #35

    john tudor

    sadly we need the other 51,999 to follow suit if we ever want to effect real change.

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  • Sav

    Mar 10, 2015 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #36

    As JC (or Pardew) had little enough input and Charnley is employed for his football knowledge no more than his charming personality and good looks, these questionable signings move Carr into the limelight a lot more than ever before. Someone has to be answerable and it has to be him. He may not like it and in many ways, being the focus of attention is anathema to the somewhat clandestine nature of his job as chief scout. But Carr carries the can. Pity he didn’t manage to get Bony and Lacazette into his credit column.

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  • John Tudor

    Mar 10, 2015 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #37

    not really my life now is fulfilled no more anger management consultations required
    i lead a happy and fulfilled life with the constant twatter from the crap regime or lack of it

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  • BandB

    Mar 10, 2015 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #38

    John Tudor,

    There’s pub near me. It had a very well kept cellar and the food and service was great.
    It changed ownership. The new owners decided to take it down market. The kitchen staff were cut and some just left. Same with the waitresses and bar staff.
    Everything got cheaper, but the food was late and lousy, and there was never enough staff on the bar.
    Lots of the old customers gradually drifted away, but others came, attracted by the prices, as they had never been able to afford to eat and drink there before.
    Go in there now and it is packed. The new clientele likes to say it eats and drinks there. Older customers remained because it was their local. They grumble about the beer and the lack of atmosphere and service, but they put up with it. No-one in there wants it to go back to what it was before, and so it never will.

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  • John Tudor

    Mar 10, 2015 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #39

    without

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  • John Tudor

    Mar 10, 2015 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #40

    is there many cases of poisoning and i bet they get free drinks or cash off the meal for the sh17 service

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