Top Pundit Annoyed By Newcastle’s Great Popularity


We often wonder if some of the pundits on TV think before they speak – and they have to be very wary of how some of their comments are portrayed.

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Jamie Carragher – my team’s better than yours

Jamie Carragher is a popular pundit these days, who seems to know the game well and is of course a Liverpool legend – and deserves to be too.

I’ll always remember one of the last gasp tackles he made in the Champions League final back in 2005 when they amazingly beat AC Milan on penalties after being 3-0 down at the break.

Jamie had a great game when Steven Gerrard almost single-handedly brought Liverpool back from what looked like certain defeat at the break.

But his latest comments are that he is annoyed that two former sides – the great (and wonderful) Newcastle United side under Kevin Keegan in the 1990s and the Leeds side who reached the semi-finals of the Champions League under David O’Leary in 2001 before losing 3-0 to Valencia.

This is what Jamie has said today:

“During my career, I won 10 major honours but none of the Liverpool teams I played for is particularly remembered for being a top side,”

“If I’m honest, it annoys me, especially when I hear stories even now of how great Kevin Keegan’s Newcastle team of 1995-96 were or how thrilling the Leeds team were that reached the Champions League semi-final in 2001.”

“Yes, they both played fast, exciting football but what did they win? Nothing.”

The Newcastle side is remembered fondly because Kevin Keegan had Newcastle playing in all-out style that was a joy to watch and just terrific for the game.

That Newcastle United side was one of the best sides to watch – ever – so it’s hardly surprising they are remembered so fondly.

And why bring trophies and honors up for a club who haven’t won anything in 46 years, and have little chance of changing that history while Mike Ashley still owns the club.

That’s definitely one below the belt.

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Not all sides that win trophies are particularly good to watch either – with Jose Mourinho’s’ sides being a decent example of that.

Jose wins trophies for sure, and he’s absolutely a world-class coach – but his sides aren’t always the best to watch as they grind out the results.

And in any case things are not fair in this world – doesn’t Jamie know that?

What do you think?

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45 comments so far

  • expatmag

    Mar 15, 2015 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #1

    He is quite right in my opinion

    Keegan might have created a great attacking team after being fully backed in the transfer market but he failed to bring in quality defenders and was tactically niave. That first 3-4 defeat at Liverpool and the 1-2 defeat at Blackburn would never gave happened under a tactically astute manager.

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  • firebug666

    Mar 15, 2015 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #2

    I think Jamie Carragher must have had his lips done with the skin off his ar*e, because there is nowt but sh1t comes out of his mouth.

    Liverfool had there time, and they were a very good team, but Newcastle was raw and exciting, so much so that we were everyone’s second team. Aye those were the days.

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  • Toonmania

    Mar 15, 2015 at 12:59 PM

    Comment #3

    Carragher just sounds bitter and twisted.

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  • Grimbo

    Mar 15, 2015 at 1:04 PM

    Comment #4

    Carraghers voice sounds like 1000 cats sliding down the worlds biggest blackboard.

    I simply can’t listen to the bloke!

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  • estechco

    Mar 15, 2015 at 1:08 PM

    Comment #5

    Because, of course, winning is everything?

    A bit sad really!

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  • LGFUAD21

    Mar 15, 2015 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #6

    Have to say I disagree.

    Top teams generally win in my opinion but I’d say that’s only half of the story.

    To say keegans team was not a great team is akin to saying the Dutch squad in the Cruyff era was not who IMO on pure footballing are up there with the Brazil of the 70s, and Spain of the past decade (although they are on the wane now).

    Sometimes fate conspires against you.

    This is in relation to mcdermotts comments in the fantasy football show after he was asked whether he’d rather newcastle won the title that year or Liverpool last season. He said newcastle on the basis of the football being the best in the country at the time.

    To be a legendary team you have to play well and win. But I think it is a discredit to not herald great teams because they didn’t win.

    Liverpool won a bit but they were hardly exciting to watch (in Carraghers time). They were decent but hardly noteworthy in a history of countless trophies.

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  • Belfast

    Mar 15, 2015 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #7

    Why would he be bitter and twisted about us ?

    He won 10 trophies and we’ve won ferk all lol

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 15, 2015 at 1:25 PM

    Comment #8

    munster

    you were one of the ones saying how c–p pardew was so don’t give us that bs calling people loonies. Talk about fickle. Very very selective memory there. This guy below has it right.

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    Michael Caine
    So true. Pardew will do the same at Palace. He is currently off to his usual good start with somebody else’s team. He did it here with Chris Hughton’s team, and got off to good starts at West Ham and Charlton. However, once he starts to embed his own negative, dreadful, one-dimensional idea of football, any flair will be squeezed out and the downward spiral becomes inevitable. For some misguided reason, he has a massive ego and a self belief built upon a lack of intelligence and zero self-awareness. Because of that he will never learn from his mistakes, never change.
    He will be found out. He always is.

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  • spitfire_

    Mar 15, 2015 at 1:28 PM

    Comment #9

    James sounds like some unsatisfied widow.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Mar 15, 2015 at 1:36 PM

    Comment #10

    You got the title wrong
    Top Pundit ffs
    You can see Gary Neville fighting to stop laughing sometimes when Carragher is droning on in that dreadful Bootle nasal whine

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Mar 15, 2015 at 1:41 PM

    Comment #11

    Diego Costa on 10 minutes
    WTF has happened to Soton ?

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  • sing in the corner

    Mar 15, 2015 at 1:55 PM

    Comment #12

    Jeff…from last thread

    Ah, the old egg banjo. Heart attack butty.
    My record on exercise was a surprisingly low 3. They’re strange…I felt confident and still hungry starting the 3rd one – but then you hit the wall. A bit like trying to eat a packet of dry cream crackers without a drink.
    Oh there’s a game going on… I was feeling more confident than I am now that I see Baines has a fitness test. Big player for them…hoping he doesn’t make it.

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  • Tsunki

    Mar 15, 2015 at 2:01 PM

    Comment #13

    Being a new pundit he is simply saying what he is thinking without using the handbrake of tact.

    Liverpool have deservedly won all the plaudits they deserve, so why should he be resentful about Nufc under Keegan or that Leeds side that came so close? They are actually completely different things. He might as well say he resents the praise Beefy Bothams test cricket side of the Eighties because they took the shine off Liverpool’s accomplishments. Silly boy. Shhhhhhh…Jamie, Shhhhhhh…

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  • Tsunki

    Mar 15, 2015 at 2:05 PM

    Comment #14

    Lgfuad – agree about the Dutch squad, they deserved a few world cups and played some of the best footy I have ever seen. I think their game in a world cup knockout round against Hungary ( my memory so y’know…) was one of the finest displays of football I can say I’ve ever seen. Might be rosy glasses but there you go. I’ll look it up 🙂

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  • davetoon

    Mar 15, 2015 at 2:06 PM

    Comment #15

    Southampton playing some nice football.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Mar 15, 2015 at 2:07 PM

    Comment #16

    sing in the corner
    “A bit like trying to eat a packet of dry cream crackers without a drink.”

    The cook obviously isn’t using enough lard .

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  • catchy in norway

    Mar 15, 2015 at 2:10 PM

    Comment #17

    top pundit , or one mans opinion ?

    his opinion is no more valid than yours or mine, he knows liverpool , but i bet he couldnt hold a candle to 90% of nufc fans on nufc , Norwich fans about Norwich fc

    I like listening to him , and many others to
    in the last 25 years how many seasons have Liverpool challenged for the league ? last season and that’s it , nufc had a couple of good seasons where we were arguably the best team in the country

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  • sing in the corner

    Mar 15, 2015 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #18

    Jeff

    No no you misundersatnd me. I meant in achievability, if thats a word.. The amount of grease seemed to collect in the oesophagus and start to solidify, making progress impossible.

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  • sing in the corner

    Mar 15, 2015 at 2:14 PM

    Comment #19

    Its a one dimensional comment typical of Carragher. Of course we are talked about because we shot up from virtually nowhere playing cavalier footy in the most remarkable season or two, then went back there pretty quickly.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Mar 15, 2015 at 2:18 PM

    Comment #20

    My team would be:
    ——Cabella———–Perez
    —————-Sissoko
    Sammy———Anita———-Ryan
    Colback—Collo—Willo—Janmaat
    ——————-Krul

    Counter attacking based team, playing with speed on the break similar to the Chelsea game and get Cabella/Perez buzzing around the defensive line.

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  • Thump

    Mar 15, 2015 at 2:20 PM

    Comment #21

    I don’t see the problem, he’s absolutley right.

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  • Tsunki

    Mar 15, 2015 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #22

    Looks like our injury roster is providing golden opportunities for the youngsters to get a taste of first team action. If they’re any use at all they’ll take their opportunity like Perez has. If not, they’ll look out of their depth, like say, Bridcutt for the mackems.

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  • Tsunki

    Mar 15, 2015 at 2:23 PM

    Comment #23

    Thump, but he’s not really right, he’s irrelevant. it’s a bland analogy. He wants all the sweeties. Liverpool do get the glory. We get a little bit of praise for adding a dash of colour once. How do we detract exactly from Liverpool?

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  • sing in the corner

    Mar 15, 2015 at 2:32 PM

    Comment #24

    Lindisfarne

    I would be worried about Anita in that midfield role, don’t rate him much from what I’ve seen of him. I would swap him for Colback and stick Jonas at left back, I’ll be interested to see how the much maligned Colback fares now he’s had a little enforced break. I am a fan of his and think he has been our most solid performer over the season so far.

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  • midweek weekend

    Mar 15, 2015 at 2:35 PM

    Comment #25

    only god knows where we’d be if we won the league back in 95-96, i disagree with carragher the team of that year was the most exciting, we had one hand on the title, how many other teams can say they almost wont the premier league not many, we won nothing but where a million miles closer than so many other teams.

    the reason the stories of that year wont go away is because we wont ever come that close again, in todays times you need a billionaire willing to invest millions to win the league, we got the billionaire just the wrong one.

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  • toonincheek

    Mar 15, 2015 at 2:39 PM

    Comment #26

    Carragher is factually right
    but he misses the point.

    The public is the judge of what they like to see
    and they remember what they liked the best.

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  • Magpies-till-d3ath

    Mar 15, 2015 at 2:42 PM

    Comment #27

    expatmag- maybe so but under a “tactically astute” manager, would the 5-0 against United happened?

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  • Lindisfarne

    Mar 15, 2015 at 2:42 PM

    Comment #28

    I am hoping for a draw and a good enough performance.

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  • Tsunki

    Mar 15, 2015 at 2:46 PM

    Comment #29

    I wonder, does Jamie reverse his car or does he Trachhh Bachhh in his Rreynnnnge Rrewwwwver?

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  • mindshaft

    Mar 15, 2015 at 2:46 PM

    Comment #30

    People remember KKs team as we didn’t care much about defence and poured forward thinking we would just score more than the opposing team – was fantastic to watch albeit sometimes painful as well
    Liverpool dominated football for a bit but we’re ultimately dull to watch, a bit like Man U after ronaldo or the current Chelsea lot
    Same way as all action punchers are always more popular than technical fighters as their fights are largely dull as dishwater despite the fact they win

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  • Tsunki

    Mar 15, 2015 at 2:48 PM

    Comment #31

    I voted draw but I’m hoping for a win, of course. Even with our depleted squad they’ve got wobbly wheels on the Toffee wagon.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Mar 15, 2015 at 2:54 PM

    Comment #32

    Graziano Pelle coming on for Soton
    Could this be a Koeman masterstroke , he certainly hasn’t come to the Bridge for a draw

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  • Tsunki

    Mar 15, 2015 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #33

    And another thing, Jamie – your comments belittle those great 4-3 wins over us that sky buzzes about nearly every time we play each others. If we weren’t that great a side, they weren’t that great as wins for you, we’re they? Strange, you lot celebrated it all at the time a lot more enthusiastically than a normal league game against a nothing club who never won anything.

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  • mindshaft

    Mar 15, 2015 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #34

    Hahaha just saw that Rooney getting knocked out video – what a pair of muppets

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  • Tsunki

    Mar 15, 2015 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #35

    Jeff – do you still reckon that link you posted yesterday will work for today’s game?

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  • firebug666

    Mar 15, 2015 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #36

    FourFourTweet ?@FourFourTweet now
    Newcastle XI vs. Everton: Krul; Janmaat, Coloccini (c), Williamson, R.Taylor; Colback, Sissoko; Obertan, Gouffran, Ameobi; Rivière.

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  • firebug666

    Mar 15, 2015 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #37

    #NUFC subs: Elliot, Satka, Anita, Gutierrez, Cabella, Armstrong, Perez. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-vs-newcastle-live-build-up-8837915

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  • toon kk

    Mar 15, 2015 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #38

    Just watching CHE vs S’ TON just makes you realise just how far our team is behind them.
    We’re also nowhere near as good as Boro in the championship either come to that

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  • mindshaft

    Mar 15, 2015 at 3:02 PM

    Comment #39

    Southampton play some great football and I wouldn’t say those players were that much better than toons – it’s the football philosophy and tactics that are totally different – there coaching is obviously way better than ours right through from youth to senior – seems they can bring kids in that can slot straight into playing style

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  • Tsunki

    Mar 15, 2015 at 3:03 PM

    Comment #40

    Hi Toon kk – it’s ‘you people’ here. 😉

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