If Carver Gets The Job – This Is What It Says About Newcastle


When John Carver got the job as caretaker manager for the rest of the season – a full 19 league games so that’s exactly half a season – it was seen as an opportunity for Newcastle-born John Carver to make the job his own.

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John Carver – poor record at Newcastle

Opinion was that if he did well – like Glenn Roeder did when he took over from the sacked Graeme Souness in February none years ago – the job could be his.

But he would have to do well to get the job, and now more than half way through the league games this is his record.

CompetitionPlayedWonDrawnLostGFGAGDPoints
League1934121835-1713
FA Cup100101-1
Overall2034131836-1813

We don’t want to be alarmist (well not too much), but that record could get even worse before the end of the season, when without two experienced central defenders available we have to go up against in-form Arsenal and Liverpool sides in tow of our next three games.

It’s now difficult to see how John Carver’s record can be a good one before the end of the season, and as we pointed out yesterday even if we win five of our last nine game his win average will only be 35% from the 18% it is at the moment.

The points gained under John Carver is relegation stuff, and over a 38 game season we’d get 34 points with his record – which is what we got in 2009 when we were relegated.

So if John still gets the job in the summer it’s not because he has shown in any way that he can be a good head coach for Newcastle.

If he’s appointed it is because he fits in well and gets on well with Lee Charnley and Graham Carr, and is willing to abide by the restrictions placed on the head coach at Newcastle.

That includes selling our best players when the right bid comes in – whenever that happens.

So a Carver appointment would show that Newcastle are more willing to keep their current system going along merrily and getting Newcastle nowhere,  rather than getting in a top coach who could even make a difference at Newcastle.

With the current system in place, we have made top six only once in eight seasons under Mike Ashley and top ten twice so it hasn’t exactly been wildly successful.

If John gets the job it’s because he will not upset the apple cart and that would show how misplaced Newcastle’s priorities are under Mike Ashley.

If that happens things may be even worse at Newcastle than we thought – and that’s saying something.

However, we don’t think John Carver will get the job permanently – so there may still be hope.

Maybe.

What do you think?

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14 comments so far

  • optimistic prime

    Mar 17, 2015 at 8:17 AM

    Comment #1

    At a normal club you’d say there’s no chance Carver will get the job.

    At our club he must be favourite

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  • MrMojoRisin76

    Mar 17, 2015 at 8:21 AM

    Comment #2

    Dick Advocaat new Slumderland manager until the end of the season.

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  • optimistic prime

    Mar 17, 2015 at 8:21 AM

    Comment #3

    On colo from previous.

    The man doesn’t give a stuff about NUFC and even though Toonbrother is ott at times he’s band in about colo.

    As much as Ashley is a disease on NUFC colo is a disease in the first team.

    IMO if we want the side to improve he needs shot of, I’ve a funny feeling the defence will be better without him!!!
    Can’t be any worse!

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  • stan anderson

    Mar 17, 2015 at 8:25 AM

    Comment #4

    Mackems showed us what to do when they are paying to watch crap football,they walked out and forced the club to act,as Rangers made there feelings known about the slug,it seems to have worked.
    What do we do,hope the slug has a plan to make us a great club again,maybe next year eh.No effing chance in a million years.See the reality of the situation we are in and do something about it.
    I did all i could do and stopped going some 3 years ago and will never go back while the fat slug treats our club as he does.
    Please act now.

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  • Klam3r

    Mar 17, 2015 at 8:30 AM

    Comment #5

    As long as 50.000 turn up for home games we deserve the utter cr@p we’re watching week in and week out.

    A year ago I was filled with frustration and anger. Now I’m really not too bothered. Great work Ashley!

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  • nut meg

    Mar 17, 2015 at 8:33 AM

    Comment #6

    repost
    @ 2
    Apologies for not knowing who you are but I keep losing some of the text & the names of the posters for some reason.
    A few posters on here,myself included have been saying for the past couple of season now the same as you.The centre backs are a huge part of the problem,slow ,indecisive,caught out of position & weak in the air etc. That makes us very vulnerable straight down the centre of the pitch & teams are targeting the CBs with balls played over the top.I’m ready to put my foot through the TV most games but I just couldn’t afford a new telly each week. Priority’s are new CBs & CF, then other positions as they were at least two seasons ago.

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  • banjax

    Mar 17, 2015 at 8:34 AM

    Comment #7

    Newcastle United have fallen way below the reputation of a once famous football club since Mike Ashley took ownership. I am sick at the number of times that I have been embarrassed by the gutless, clueless and pride-less displays that have been served up by highly paid footballers who can hardly be be called professional. There are hard working supporters who pay good money to follow a club that that pays them no regard. This situation will only continue for so long and Mike Ashley will find the supporters will vote with their feet and leave him without a pot to piss in !

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  • lesh

    Mar 17, 2015 at 8:39 AM

    Comment #8

    Sunderland land Advocaat in a matter of hours of Poyet’s dismissal, we got Carver after a month!

    Advocaat until the end of the season and who’s in the frame for next? McLaren and Clement!

    Ashley’s done it again, another fine mess he’s got us into.

    If things aren’t going well at Sunderland, a mass walkout in front of the cameras would have the national media buzzing.

    Thereafter, a boycott of home games may, may just the fans’ message across to Ashley – get the hell out if it!

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  • nut meg

    Mar 17, 2015 at 8:41 AM

    Comment #9

    If Lee Charnley appoints JC as the head coach this should be the big stick to beat him with & rammed down his throat as he doesn’t possess any of the required skills.
    interview
    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-md-lee-charnley-8484848

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  • sing in the corner

    Mar 17, 2015 at 8:42 AM

    Comment #10

    Nut meg

    Yeah you’re right man…the writing has been on the wall for some time, but to be fair there’s been a multitude of other things to worry / think about.
    I think Colo being made captain was accepted at the time because his positional play / game reading used to be better than it is now. And there was the absence of trustworthy decent candidates. I would love to see him stripped of the captaincy as a statement of intent cos he does nowt to deserve it. Trouble is.. who gets it?? Its a sign of the times that its a struggle to see anyone who could step up to it. I would have said R Taylor but he’s rarely fit for long and to be honest is another one who is struggling to cope with the roles he is being given. I like Colback but i know he is not liked by many fans…and at the moment he isn’t a dominant organising type. Truth is there is nobody else obvious for the role, But we need someone to take a hold of it now

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  • bladeuser

    Mar 17, 2015 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #11

    Have not read many posts after the defeat just wondering if that challenge by our useless captain was deliberate to get himself sent off and head off to his homeland for weeks its been done before.
    watched the highlights and williamson cannot be classed as a footballer he is slow cannot pass his positional play is a joke he just does not know what is going on around him and i got that from 10 mins off motd
    finally f@#@ off JC u make pardew look like alex fergerson

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  • stuart no9

    Mar 17, 2015 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #12

    Stan—–I said on Sunday , we should take note on how the mackems reacted on Saturday .
    Paying customers should not have to put up with that kind of performance and not have the right to moan about it .
    Us lot don’t just moan , we go back the next week for MORE , hahahahaha , WTF, if I hadn’t seen it with my own eyes , I would not believe people were that gullible and forgiving ( specially when it doesn’t help the club or the team ) that they would turn up for more .
    People say they have already paid for their ticket , the mackems had , but it didn’t stop them leaving in droves before half time . The fact they had bought their tickets didn’t stop them leaving. They done good for the club ( and they proved it ) NUFC fans ???? Give me strength .

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  • BoyDoneGood

    Mar 17, 2015 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #13

    Stan anderson.

    3 years ago? 5th not good enough?

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  • monty

    Mar 17, 2015 at 9:52 PM

    Comment #14

    He’s been number 2 a long time fir a good reason, he’s not good enough to be number 1 and never will be.

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