You cannot say John Carver has been shy in putting his case forward that he should be appointed the head coach at Newcastle in the summer, and if that happens at least the Newcastle fans will be completely underwhelmed.
That’s if our poll is accurate and 90% of our readers don’t want him as the head coach.
John Carver – Newcastle interim head coach
But in his press conference yesterday for the game at Sunderland tomorrow, John Carver again tried to make a case for himself.
And John said some of the things he had already done should support his case, although what they are we are not sure.
They are certainly not the results with John having a poor 16.7% win rate in the 12 games he’s been head coach since the beginning of the year – just two wins this year.
This is some of what John said in his press conference yesterday:
“I’d like to think some of the stuff I’ve done is already on the way to making me, but in the eyes of the fans, if you win a derby game, it’s massive.”
“I’m not saying everything else is forgotten, but it certainly helps your case. It certainly helps your case as long as you try to do it the right way.”
“Listen, if I come off and it’s not been a football match, but we win 1-0, I’ll be delighted with that.”
“We had a good football match last week and got nothing for it. At the end of the day, it’s all about getting the win.”
In fact football is all about getting the results – the wins – head coaches are in the results business whether they like it or not.
But Newcastle haven’t done very well this year in that regard – and those are the facts – at least so far.
[table “33” not found /]What do you think?
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43 comments so far
lesh
Apr 4, 2015 at 12:52 AM
Comment #1The man clearly thinks he’s got the HC job and today’s little gems are part of his attempts to win over the fans.
Shameful that Ashley and Baldrick persist with the charade of trying to get the best for the HC job and that they allow Carver to make himself look less credible the more he makes his case.
jimmysmith
Apr 4, 2015 at 2:39 AM
Comment #2My best bet, they’ve given us this interim period to get used to Carver as head coach. Next they’ll reshape the squad in a manner that suggests to a devoted fan base a potentially competitive side. Then they appoint him, and we then go on to finish top ten, play a more entertaining brand without seriously threatening to qualify for a Europe nor win a cup. From Ashley’s perspective, result.
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 4, 2015 at 4:16 AM
Comment #3Carver this is for you. A quote from one of the best manager’s in English football:
“Without fans who pay at the turnstile, football is nothing. Sometimes we are inclined to forget that. The only chance of bringing them into stadiums is if they are entertained by what happens on the football field.”
Jock Stein
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 4, 2015 at 4:19 AM
Comment #4“I think it is important to win a match, but I think what is even more important is the manner in which you win.”
Jock Stein
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 4, 2015 at 4:19 AM
Comment #5“There is no substitute for experience ”
Jock Stein
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 4, 2015 at 4:20 AM
Comment #6Carver…read those quotes and tell me honestly “are you the right manager for us”?
Reyantoon
Apr 4, 2015 at 4:40 AM
Comment #7Armstrong has potential. looks canny player,similar to young Rooney.But needs loan out ,where he can play regularly atleast for one season.
On the derby:
Probably will end in draw.It’s a must win game for them too,which will make it very tough game.Expect a lot battling and tackles,probably a red card as well.
If we lose,I won’t be disappointed as well,b/c JC will be replaced and they start thinking of someone better.
leonado_keng
Apr 4, 2015 at 4:42 AM
Comment #8Whether John will be appointed or not, We don’t want Steve Mcclaren. The major reasons why Newcastle is being down grade the of team turning to middle of table is such a Mike Ashley. I hope one day the fans will gather a unique and force him out of club because during 8 year ago it’s enough to prove for who names Mike Ashley is no longer interested in football either. This is truth we should realize now
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 4, 2015 at 4:44 AM
Comment #9Maybe loosing the game is in our own best interest as a fan base and as a community!
…it’s about time we start to think about us selves! Everyone else are doing so!
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 4, 2015 at 5:05 AM
Comment #10Carver just wants the job regardless of the outcome, that’s why he remind me so much of Pardew!
…the difference being Carver is suppose to be a Geordie (it’s suppose to be about more than just him)
I am even beginning to think if he doesn’t get the job (lets hope that’s the case) the club cannot retain him as an assistant! His position would be untenable!
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 4, 2015 at 5:22 AM
Comment #11About Armstrong…will he make the grade at Newcastle or at the PL at all? Hard to tell since he hasn’t shown us what he can do on a consistent level in the Championship!
…can he do a Rooney? who knows, but from what I have see so far the answer would be No!
Why he was kept here this season and not loan out is another indication of mismanagement at Newcastle! It has become standard practice!
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 4, 2015 at 5:23 AM
Comment #12*seen
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 4, 2015 at 5:24 AM
Comment #13If I wasn’t a fan I would probably say “we are horrible wee club (up north)”
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 4, 2015 at 5:28 AM
Comment #14Our matches seem to shown on telly because no matter what we pack the stadium!
http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/04/why-mike-ashley-chose-newcastle-united/?
Sky has already said with the new TV-deal that they won’t show matches with half empty stadiums…
…so if we continue to pact the stadiums Mike won’t ever leave! Should be clear as day-light (…unless you are a ST holder of course then you are disregarded for criticism)
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 4, 2015 at 5:28 AM
Comment #15*to be
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 4, 2015 at 5:34 AM
Comment #16I don’t know how many of you watched this, but it was mentioned the other day I think!
http://www.theguardian.com/football/video/2015/apr/03/mike-ashley-and-newcastle-united?
Thump
Apr 4, 2015 at 5:41 AM
Comment #17Carver could rewrite history and turn every derby into a 5-1 win and I’d still want rid of him.
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 4, 2015 at 5:44 AM
Comment #18About Aarons, give his a contract that fits his situation (nothing more…these kids need to learn their place), but incentivize it so if he stays fit for x amount of time it will trigger a pay-rise!
…and if he delivers the goods it will trigger a pay-rise again! The last thing we need is another Sterling (Ashley would probably love that 😉 )
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 4, 2015 at 5:45 AM
Comment #19*his = him
Jail for Ashley
Apr 4, 2015 at 6:22 AM
Comment #20Jesper,
I hadn’t seen that, what an ‘orrible pair Ashley and FFS make, he’s not sticking up for him while saying how well he’s done and that we’re living in the past.
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 4, 2015 at 6:39 AM
Comment #21Jail…it doesn’t really look bright for us does it!
hibbit
Apr 4, 2015 at 7:01 AM
Comment #22was at the boro game yesterday look a good side every body wants the ball always running for each other….. the kid bamford can play but a chelsea player out on loan learning his trade ….always liked perch for his effort not the best but gives a 110% every game still the same enjoyed the game
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 4, 2015 at 7:13 AM
Comment #23hibbit…would be nice if Boro went up! I am actually one of the people who would prefer as many NE teams in the PL as possible 🙂
finkler
Apr 4, 2015 at 7:17 AM
Comment #24Who are these JFA types. Just before the mackem game they project a feeling of despair. I am a newcastle fan. I want to have a feeling of hope and that in 5 years when clubs have destroyed themselves financially we will see Newcastle challenging for European places and maybe a push for the champions league. Somewhat less ambitiously I want us to beat the mackems. I really don’t want to come on my team blog and read the hopeless lifes’ loser type postings of despair and resolution. JFA and his like want us all to be as miserable as them.
The best thing that could happen this summer is we go for Frank de Boer and work on building an Ajax of the north east. Young well drilled youth. Worst things have happened to newcastle as a city then Mike Ashleys slightly confused reign. (don’t get me wrong, i do think he is a dick)
Toon-Prodigy
Apr 4, 2015 at 7:23 AM
Comment #25I really won’t be shocked that Carver gets the job.
All this regime wants is to stay in the league, they don’t care about pretty football or league placings. And I think Carver could do that for Ashley, so what gives?
I still hold the belief it does not matter who is the head coach at this football club while this regime is in place. It leaves me bitter but it is what it is. Nothing will change football wise.
The reasons:
The headcoach will always have a threadbare squad.
Lack of quality in depth to cover injuries.
Have his best players sold and not replaced.
Have the season derailed mid season.
Always have bad morale in amongst the squad through a lack of ambition. Players wanting to move away because of a lack of ambition. Always going through a transition phase for the want of buying players to make money not for the want of building a team and buying in the correct positions needed.
When a club has very little ambition, no matter how much wages the players are on they must know this. It has to affect their determination and standards. Some players do not need a reason to hide.
It’s not all pride of the shirt in football.
Anyway, I’d love to see a big name manager come in, but really under those structures above he will have great difficulty trying to achieve anything, every coach on the planet would. Under these structures we are very lucky to be in the Premier League and it is only a gamble from one year to the next from Ashley.
I don’t even think the football would change greatly because our players are so over rated to begin with and there just isn’t simply enough of experienced top quality players to compete week in week out and in the cups, which we know all too well. Once injuries occur to that starting eleven we fold, like we always have done.
Managers can’t perform miracles with poor squads, under this regime mid-table is as best as we are going to get.
Mag52
Apr 4, 2015 at 7:26 AM
Comment #26Jesper
‘The only chance of bringing the fans into the stadium is if they are entertained by the football’
Old Jock certainly got that one wrong in the case of NUFC didn’t he.
Mag52
Apr 4, 2015 at 7:29 AM
Comment #27If it’s a straight choice between Carver and McClaren for the job come the end of the season, it’s a no brainier IMO. It has to be the brolly man.
jimmysmith
Apr 4, 2015 at 7:53 AM
Comment #28If Ashley were to give even Carver, a striker of Remy quality and a less injury prone group, without compromising the quality that is already there, then I, and I think most would be happy enough. It’s the lean, cost saving approach, without compromise that has been so destructive. Even now, as has been the case generally under Ashley, the squad is only a handful of slightly better and more robust players away from a good one, and one worth watching and one that word offer the owner a greater financial return. It’s almost as if the discipline of sticking rigidly to the business plan is almost where it begins and ends full stop.
finkler
Apr 4, 2015 at 7:56 AM
Comment #29Buying players who see us as a stepping stone works for now as these players have a motivation to do well.
If we had one great season and somehow qualified for the CL I reckon Ashley would get his wallet out as we would be able to attract good players who actually want to play for us. A reduced focus on cups might, one day, leave us well placed for an assault on the top 4 so I am okay with that.
I’m not a fan of Ashley but he has a strategy which might actually work one day (with a bit of luck e.g. a striker finding a hot streak, a bright youth player or two coming through, a great season by a keeper, a couple of others finding form, a fully fit squad and before you know it we’re chasing the top 4… It could happen.
In the meantime, he takes out no money, is propping the club up with a £129m interest free loan and is hopefully now stockpiling cash in the club to use intelligently if/when the time is right.
finkler
Apr 4, 2015 at 7:59 AM
Comment #30As I said earlier it’s the continental route for me. If it’s a choice between Carver and Fred Astaire it’s the Brolly every time.
Average_Contents
Apr 4, 2015 at 8:05 AM
Comment #31Oh. so now it’s in 5 years time that we’ll finally see the fruits of the slugs labour and dominate the world. Excellent. Cannot wait.
Getting to be quite the joke all this jam tomorrow. Waiting and waiting for the penny to drop is far funnier though.
finkler
Apr 4, 2015 at 8:08 AM
Comment #32We could do with more fans just like Jimmy. He knows just what it takes to be a fan. He is a stalwart of the blog and someone who makes me feel we can beat the dastardly mackems.
He provides hope unlike the growing majority on here who foster doom and gloom. Well I am going over to the dark side following my team.
finkler
Apr 4, 2015 at 8:13 AM
Comment #33Rome wasn’t built in a day. We’re one good manager away from being a force.
Being a fan is all about hope and jam tomorrow. It’s not about being a misery and a loser who feels sorry for himself. It’s viewing the start of every season like a small child eagerly looking forward to going to the magnificent stadium we have – it’s SJP. Stupid get yourself along there.
finkler
Apr 4, 2015 at 8:15 AM
Comment #34Your pushing it to be average!!!
Mister Tuff
Apr 4, 2015 at 8:21 AM
Comment #35finkler – another multiple spoiling the blog for the majority.
Average_Contents
Apr 4, 2015 at 8:23 AM
Comment #36Anything mackem related is often referred to as the dark side.
Why is it that you proclaim to think the slug is a dick but then list the reasons as to why you think he isn’t. Stockpiling cash, pushing for the top four, all with ifs and buts.
Hasn’t 8 years of mediocrity provided enough evidence as to why that will never happen. No ifs or buts there. Hard evidence prevails.
John Tudor
Apr 4, 2015 at 8:26 AM
Comment #37cabbage
finkler
Apr 4, 2015 at 8:32 AM
Comment #38Tuff
You achieve that all on your own. I am a legitimate who hates the way you and your ilk are driving all those I enjoy reading off with your inane trivia. This is a blog for the fans of Newcastle United around the world. We want to win tomorrow unlike your waifs and strays who see mileage in a defeat for your pandering practices.
Oh and I do see you as a Monday morning quarterback and someone who makes very little sense!
Average_Contents
Apr 4, 2015 at 8:34 AM
Comment #39I’d rather be labelled a realist than delusional, sorry.
How long are you willing to wait for jam? Forever it seems.
What is there to be excited about or look forward too?
The heart and soul of this club you claim to support has been ripped out leaving nothing but festering puss filled wounds dripping with SD.
John Tudor
Apr 4, 2015 at 8:41 AM
Comment #40laces out