It’s A Damning Situation Newcastle Players Are In


John Carver has not held back when he’s talked about some of the performances Newcastle players have put in during two of the four defeats in succession we have had against Sunderland over the last two years.

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John Carver – it’s damning for Newcastle players

And it’s no different today when the interim head coach at Newcastle had this to say:

“I won’t accept that.” “That is something I’ll be driving home in that dressing room when we have our team meeting today and before we go out on the pitch.”

“To be honest, I don’t really understand why it’s happened. I always give 100% in everything I do and for professional footballers, that should be a given.”

“The work rate, the effort, the commitment – that’s all I hear after a game when you’ve lost. You hear about the word commitment, you hear that you had no energy or enthusiasm and they didn’t understand what it meant – that’s what I hear all the time.”

“I’ll make sure, or I’ll try my best to understand that it’s what people think and it’s damning. It’s a damning situation on them as professional footballers.”

“It can make or break a manager, but in the four games there’s been two embarrassments haven’t there?” “We lost down there 2-1 to a late goal from Fabio Borini and there was nothing in the game.”

“The game here, there was nothing in that game. So there was the two bad performances and results that probably went against Alan. I’d be quite surprised if he said that was the main reason. I think Alan was being diplomatic.”

“But the record has not been good enough. I’ve been in a situation where we’ve had a similar sort of record as Sunderland and I’m sure they weren’t happy with that situation.”

“We have some new players but they’ve played in it, so there’s no reason for them not to be ready for it.”

John’s right and the minimum asked by Newcastle fans in any game of their players  is 100% commitment, and if they get that they will support the players.

And that’s true even in defeat – which was the case last time out against Arsenal.

But finishing a game when there wasn’t that commitment and the players don’t seem to care is simply not acceptable.

In addition to some of the Sunderland  games of the past, we’ve seen that at that in last two away games at Manchester City and Everton, when we lost by a combined score of 8-0.

We cannot have that tomorrow, and if it happens all hell will break loose.

But we expect a very committed performance tomorrow from the Newcastle United players, and hopefully a win.

We haven’t had too many of those this year – just two – so it will be alike a new experience if we can win the game tomorrow.

Another defeat would be too hard to take.

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66 comments so far

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Apr 4, 2015 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #1

    We simply don’t want tricksters on here and we are on them as quickly ad they are spotted!

    …and we have become very good to spot ’em!

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Apr 4, 2015 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #2

    *at spotting ’em

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  • lochinvar

    Apr 4, 2015 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #3

    Problem is that statements from the club and Carver are just waffle and viewed with derision. On a par with the crud all the politicians constantly spout. Carver is a classless act , quote in papers “I wanted to attack Paolo Di Canio when he did his knee slide against us, admits Newcastle manager John Carver
    Carver says he wanted to “take the law into my own hands” to stop the former Sunderland manager”
    Well JC we know what you mean but you don’t say it in public and in talking like that only proves that you don’t have the stature to be Manager of Newcastle United and sets the club and you up for more ridicule. Otherwise you will end up as a candidate for the Jeremy Kyle show not Manager of NUFC. And Toronto FC comparisons – go join the Mounties !

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  • Average_Contents

    Apr 4, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #4

    Weren’t you part of the setup that has lost the previous four games though johnny boy.

    Where was the passion then. Where was the work rate then. Where was the telling the players how important it was then.

    You’ve talked about gleaning inside info from the ginger yet wasn’t he playing at SJP when they beat us last time. You talk guff just like your former boss

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  • finkler

    Apr 4, 2015 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #5

    Jesp
    What !!! Get back into your box. Your a disgrace behaving as if in pursuit of Nazi Collaborators – your a boy from Denmark not Brazil – you moron.
    I hope your dissed for your blog behaviour.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Apr 4, 2015 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #6

    I would like to see a 4-3-1-2 and attack them.

    Taylor, Williamson, Janmaat, Jonas
    Abeid, Colback, Ameobi
    Sissoko
    Cabella Perez

    Obviously the keeper picks himself.

    Anita, Satka, Rivierre, Obertan, Elliot, Gouffran, Armstrong on the bench.

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  • N1CK06

    Apr 4, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #7

    R.Taylor_Janmaat_Willo_Colback
    ____________Abeid___________
    Cabella________________Ameobi
    ___________Sissoko___________
    ____Armstrong_____Perez______

    Goufran has been performing poorly for so long yet still gets started.. Would much rather see him dropped for young lad Armstrong to help our Perez up front. I’m sure he’s still buzzing from his performance with England U18s, confidence is high, and being a local would absolutely give 110% if he was to start in the derby.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 4, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #8

    i smell a multiple, just haven’t worked out who yet.

    What on earth have NUFC fans got to complain about!!!! W.U.M at work . . . . .

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Apr 4, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #9

    Tricksters…dissed by who? You?

    …couldn’t care less!

    *we are on to you!

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Apr 4, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #10

    Rotunda…it’s the gathering of tricksters!

    …they have really been of plenty of lately

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  • Average_Contents

    Apr 4, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #11

    RH/Jesperlemon

    Most definitely a current incumbent of the blog.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Apr 4, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #12

    AC…Tuff also taked about yet another trouble-maker the other day!

    …it’s difficult to work out who they are, but it’s a give away that it’s yet another instigator when they start their blogging!

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Apr 4, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #13

    I have thinking about suggesting another way for bloggers to register to Ed then the usual way!

    …it would stop future tricksters to join and flush out the current once. Other websites does this.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Apr 4, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #14

    There is an article in the shields gazette from john carver about Shearer and Ferguson being left out of the Makum game yrs ago.

    I can’t stop laughing, Ruud’s “lovley boy comments”.

    Hahaha.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Apr 4, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #15

    Why do people become annoyed at the obvious trolls-just let them go and ignore.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Apr 4, 2015 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #16

    This blog at times resembles a cross between Animal Farm and Lord of the Flies.
    The bullying and harassing of posters other than the inner cabal is clearly orchestrated and quite worrying .

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  • optimistic prime

    Apr 4, 2015 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #17

    Squeal piggy piggy piggy

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  • lesh

    Apr 4, 2015 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #18

    “But the record has not been good enough” says our temporary Head Coach.

    Does it not occur to Carver that players tend to respond to and be motivated by its leader, it’s Manager, its Head Coach?

    Does it not occur to Carver and Ashley and Baldrick (Charnley), that it’s his record that’s not good enough. It’s obvious from his spell at Toronto that he’s not improved – in fact whilst not good enough there, he’s just out of his depth at Newcastle United.

    He may be good enough for Ashley but Ashley’s not good enough to own the Club as illustrated in the Guardian link posted by Optimistic and Jeffrey yesterday.

    Incidentally, the printed copy of today’s Guardian Sports section makes the Ashley-based article look bloody impressive. It covers the whole of the front page plus pages two, three and four! It’s the best critique of Ashley and his approach to people and business I’ve ever seen. Let’s hope that the rest of the media picks up the baton and runs with it, thus giving Ashley more of the exposure he deserves!

    So, to sum up…… Ashley’s greedy and he along with Baldrick, Carr and Carver, he’s got the perfect management team to continue running Newcastle United into the ground.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Apr 4, 2015 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #19

    My god OP has read a book !!!
    Wonders never cease

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Apr 4, 2015 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #20

    Lesh bit of a contradiction there sir.

    “Ashley’s greedy and he along with Baldrick, Carr and Carver, he’s got the perfect management team to continue running Newcastle United into the ground.”

    If he was greedy , why on earth would he want to run it into the ground ?

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  • lesh

    Apr 4, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #21

    Jeffrey

    Ashley may not want to run the Club into the ground, but like it or not, that’s what he’s doing.

    He’s nearly killed Newcastle United as a club that sets out to and is equipped to have a serious go at winning every game, every competition. He’s given birth to a Newcastle United that is devoid of ambition to do nothing other than staying in the Prem, act as a trader in footballers and make money!

    He’s taken the spirit out of the Club and the sooner that ST holders and those thinking of buying one, wake up and realise what they’re spending their money on and stop doing so, the better!

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Apr 4, 2015 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #22

    Lesh,

    Bit unfair, as I recognise Carver is out of his depth the injuries sustained have been shocking over this past 12 games. If we had everyone available or at least most of them we could judge fairly then I guess.

    Always surprises me the judging that occurs on the blogs and hatred when the team is shocking to start with and then coupled with a diabolical injury list and mental suspensions. We have been here all before it’s all a bit deja vu.

    Im hoping I can see a decent team out there soon so I can judge thoroughly. Not that I want him in charge, but just to see if all this is really fair at the minute.

    With Colo, Cisse, Dummett, De Jong, Haidara, Arrons, Taylor available or most of them im sure we would be doing a little better and some results would of been different for him. Unfortunetly we are poor when injuries occur, the quality isnt there. Silly suspensions with Colo and Cisse, players out of position.

    I’ll reserve judgement until I see players back but even then I only think mid-table would be good under this regime and squad.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Apr 4, 2015 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #23

    Toon-Prodigy…I would usually agree but lately it has just escalated!

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Apr 4, 2015 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #24

    Yes Jeff…you and Welshy are clearly the victims…and us making it difficult for the instigators, how dare we?

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  • Lindisfarne

    Apr 4, 2015 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #25

    lochinvar @3

    I had to read the above quotes three times and then the introduction to grasp the precise meaning and even there it is wide of the mark.

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  • hibbit

    Apr 4, 2015 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #26

    looks like jeffery from anywhere is cross dressing again dosn’t know what hat he’s got on

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Apr 4, 2015 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #27

    Post #19 says everything about you Jeff and just emphasize my critique!

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Apr 4, 2015 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #28

    Jeff…why are you here? Do you get paid to come here?

    …does this need to be looked into?

    Maybe we should asking around on other blogs to see if they also have an infestation?

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  • Lindisfarne

    Apr 4, 2015 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #29

    We need to be solid in midfield and quick in attack against S’land, 4-3-1-2 provides the best opportunity for our best players to perform to the best of their abilities (in the circumstances).

    —–Perez————Cabella
    ————-Sissoko
    Sammy——-Guti——–Abeid
    Colback-Willo-Janmaat-R.Taylor
    —————–Krul

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  • lesh

    Apr 4, 2015 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #30

    Toon P…..

    Hang on though.

    Wasn’t Carver happy with the squad in January?

    Wasn’t Carver the one who was relaxed about losing Santon when we were even then short of defenders?.

    To be a good manager, one must be able to get the best of what one’s got and looking at some of our our lackluster performances, selections and tactics, Carver’s shown us what he can bring to the party – a lot of enthusiasm bit that’s about all.

    The situation won’t change too much and he’ll be losing key players so I must stand by my assertion that Carver is not good enough to be HC!

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  • optimistic prime

    Apr 4, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #31

    Jeff

    I was reffering to you and yours in deliverance, can’t remember reading the book but if you say so.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Apr 4, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #32

    finkler -what a knacker. There are plenty on here I do not agree with and who I do not accuse of being a multiples. It is very clear to me that your last invention -John Irving – was a multiple – invented by our own blog Master Multiple. You need to leave our blog and go and meet some West Ham fans in the pub or write King Percy another letter.
    You have been outed – easily spotted by myself and other posters. Now clear off and leave our blog as you are clearly not a Toon fan -more of a provacateur -trying to wind people up. You are not very intelligent despite your previous hints on the blog that you are – a phoney if I ever saw one. You are a turd that requires to be immediately flushed around the bend.
    Get off our blog now you trickster.

    Release the bloodhounds – he’s on the run.
    High Five jesper.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Apr 4, 2015 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #33

    Like i said Lesh it’s all a bit deja vu. Saying they are happy with the squads toeing the party line, the injuries, suspensions. Back then we started to get a lot of players back im sure i recall him being excited that he has players to pick from and options, then in typical toon style he loses them all again.

    Im with you I don’t want him in charge, I have doubts about him finishing mid-table where I was confident that Pardew could each season.

    You only have to look at the teamsheet for the big game though to see that squad is not worthy of NUFC at present and only so much can be done with it. Alot of players not worthy in there for me.

    If he gets a result though he will get a well done from me, but it won’t be a ” He should get the job” shout!

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  • Lindisfarne

    Apr 4, 2015 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #34

    Toon-Prodigy @22

    I admire your sensible holistic approach but you are right we have been here before, the reason why we wanted rid of AP is because we knew the team could perform better. A judgement can only be made about what is on the pitch and whatever the circumstances, are the players being utilised properly and effectively?

    Despite some early forward looking attacking endeavor by the teams Carver put on the pitch, they have always been vulnerable and the tactical changes necessary have not been made. Consequently right minded people like yourself are happily distracted by a false hope of things improving when ‘all the injuries clear up’, or after the ‘summer transfer market’ and ‘once the season really kicks in’.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Apr 4, 2015 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #35

    If anyone is going to the match tomorrow, how about dressing as a Zombie?

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  • catchy in norway

    Apr 4, 2015 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #36

    our current head coach only needs to look back at when SBR took over the team , bottom of the league , moral was rock bottom too, first home game , 8-0 , the right man with the full squad behind him , carver was there to witness it too,

    instead of trying to follow the great man , he has chosen to follow a chancer , muppets

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  • hibbit

    Apr 4, 2015 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #37

    i just wish carver would keep his mouth shut we all know he wants the job it’s up to him prove he is good enough by winning games that’s what he should be judged on

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Apr 4, 2015 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #38

    T-P,
    You’re banging the same drum mate, we all know Mashely is the instigator of the malaise at the club now but Carver was more than happy to go along with it, not only that but actually patronise us at the same time, the blatant lie about the FA cup, the pretending he didn’t have anything to do with the transfer situation yet saying he influenced Cisse not being sold, he had every chance to stamp his authority and demand at least nobody left if he was to do the job, he had nothing to lose, he is deluded if he thought he could have done a better than Pardew did after another thoroughly demoralising January.
    Who are these finkler types ?

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Apr 4, 2015 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #39

    Jesper I know English is not your first language and 90% of the time you do really well , but now and then some stuff goes WHOOSH straight over your head , yet you still feel the need to beat your gums and flap your lips and hence come across as a pillock.

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  • optimistic prime

    Apr 4, 2015 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #40

    Ashley got rid of Hughton because he wanted a manager with more expirience to take the club foward. Or so he said.

    That said is there anyway he can give the job full time to carver without being hammered for it?

    He’d basically be admitting he goes for a cheap yes man everytime.

    On the game, the only thing that’s worrying me is how JC is hammering into the players how important this game is.

    I want them to play the game not the occasion, if we do we win, if not they’ll freeze like a rabbit in the headlights and get squashed .

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