Newcastle Coach Admits To Poor Man-Management


John Carver has had a terrible time of it this year as Newcastle’s head coach and his record should put to an end any question of him becoming the head coach in the summer – but it hasn’t.

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John Carver – has shown poor man-management

Here’s John’s record – but he’s also been severely hampered by injuries and suspensions and the Newcastle Board doing stupid things again in a January transfer window – in the name of money.

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John was seething like the rest of us after the Sunderland defeat, and he basically said all but five players didn’t perform at Sunderland.

Here’s what John said after the game:

“Jonas Gutierrez gave me everything and he is void of any criticism along with Ryan Taylor, Daryl Janmaat, Mike Williamson and Jack Colback…those five are void of any criticism.”

But then  on Thursday at his press conference for the upcoming game at Anfield on Monday night (we are hoping we will not take another hammering),  he retracted some of that:

“I think now I have had time to think about it, it is a bit unfair to come out and talk about the ones who did well and the ones who didn’t do well.”

“I have already said it, we take responsibility.” “Some weeks for example Jack Colback might be outstanding, the following week he might not be, but he is part of the team and it team spirit that is going to get you through it.”

“I’m not going to go into individuals because it is unfair.”

It’s another example of how John Carver is inexperienced and not ready to be a head coach – and certainly not at Newcastle.

And it was another (big) risk taken by the Newcastle Board to get by on the simplest and cheapest option to replace Alan Pardew this season.

Sunderland were much wiser after they sacked Gus Poyet and they brought in experienced Dick Advocaat.

The 67 year-old coach is already turning the club around, and there’s a good chance the Black Cats will finish above Newcastle in the league table – never mind just avoiding relegation.

But Sunderland are not besotted about money either – like Newcastle are under Mike Ashley.

And we’re a little surprised that John didn’t learn better man-management from the great Sir Bobby Robson, who was a master at getting the very best out of every player – whatever their personality was.

Just think of how he turned around Alan Shearer, when Bobby first came in as the Newcastle manager in late August 1999.

Alan hadn’t been playing well early in the season, and had been dropped for the game against Sunderland in our previous home game – and Ruud Gullit was fired by Freddy Shepherd that night after we lost 2-1.

What did Newcastle do in their next home game, and Bobby’s first ever game at the Cathedral on the Hill as the Newcastle manager?

We beat bottom of the table Sheffield Wednesday 8-0 and were 5-0 up at the beak, and Alan Shearer scored five goals – still a record goal-scoring achievement for one game in the Premier League.

So Bobby could inspire players, and he did – and that’s something John cannot seem to do at Newcastle.

But there again John hasn’t the innate ability in coaching and handling men that Sir Bobby Robson had.

We just hope we can win one or two more games this season and be safe, and that the Board will learn from their incompetence in January.

But we have our doubts about the latter.

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50 comments so far

  • Munster Mag

    Apr 11, 2015 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #1

    When carver put pardew in the same sentence as bobby robson i think he confirmed all our fears.

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Apr 11, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #2

    Mag 52, I know you love to defend Pinocchio at all costs, but having stamina is different from using their abilities to effectively to enhance a certain tactic or game plan. Having them play as a second full-back because they have a good work ethic also hinders our positioning as a team and encourages the other team to press us for a large part of the game which was notorious for silver tongue. They are ran into the ground because their main tasks are to cover ground regardless of positional intelligence and awareness, which is what I hated when the liar was in charge.

    Excess physical expenditure makes the mind tired and has it seek out the easier option. That easier option is to not go too far forward knowing that they’ll be sprinting back at any second. Their attacking prowess is limited by their highly ridiculous defensive duties, which hampered our attacking threat heavily.

    Players which could be expending explosive bursts of energy in a forward area lack the intensity to play in as many attacking areas because they have used up a lot of energy tracking back and baby sitting, not to mention the negative positioning.

    Pinocchio regularly limited the possibilities of our attacking potential by getting the wingers to excessively cover as fullbacks, when a large part of the time one of the multiple defensive anchormen that he used should have been covering that position, thus freeing up the winger to actually do their job and attack. Hatem was a scapegoat for that as well. Robert and Ginola would have suffered the same fates if they were here and they tracked back a lot less than Ben Arfa.

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  • stan anderson

    Apr 11, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #3

    Munster Mag,i honestly would not mind relegation if it was to help us get rid of the present owner and his band of yes men.That may seem extreme to you but that is how desperate i am at present.
    I have followed the toon since i was a nipper in the late 1950s and bleed black and white blood,but my pride is gone now since this mob took over.
    I would just as well have JFK back as Pardew mate.Says it all really.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 11, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #4

    LR

    AP proved time and again he could not work with technical players. It was always artisans above artists for him.

    Pochetinno has devised fantastic modern training programmes for Tottenham that benefit their flair players. Our players never looked fit under AP and still don’t now under his hopeless legacy.

    If the chuckle brothers Ash and Charnley saw what was successful, ie KK first time and SBR, they would want someone who played attacking, front foot, pass and move football that really does get the fans off their seats, not the horrible painfully negative containing rubbish started by dumb and now being continued by dumber.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 11, 2015 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #5

    stan

    As a fellow long time sufferer I’m almost resigned to thinking that relegation is the only way to remove this horrible oaf and his cronies.

    The club is just existing at the moment. It’s hilarious when carver said he would walk if better players didn’t come in the summer.

    Which good player in his right mind would join this car wreck and play under such useless coaches

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Apr 11, 2015 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #6

    Rotonda, spot on as usual. I know you know what’s up.

    Boxing is a more obvious example of excess expenditures which are wasted. Boxers resort to less agility and movement by becoming flat-footed to conserve energy, they engage in more negative clinches, and generally lack effective and thoughtful approaches to the task in hand. They make sloppy decisions based on physical and mental over-exertion, and leave themselves open defensively to being caught with shots.

    A similar pattern occurs in football when ‘graft’ is heralded instead of thoughtful movement and intelligent teamwork work and positioning. There’s a difference.

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  • JamesToon

    Apr 11, 2015 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #7

    LR32 & Rotonda
    Fully agree with both of your posts.

    Tbh I’d be more than happy for us to finish anywhere in the top 10, as long as we challenge for cups, show a bit of passion and fight in derbies, and actually play some good attacking football.

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  • davetoon

    Apr 11, 2015 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #8

    The article and debate should be about Will Carver be manager in 2 games time never mind next season

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  • lesh

    Apr 11, 2015 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #9

    It seems that West Ham are short-listing for a successor to Allardyce. So what, one wonders has Charnley been doing since January?

    It’s was clear that even considering Carver to hold the fort was folly but no, Charnley goes one better.

    In true Ashley fashion, he not only appoints Carver, implying he’s in the frame to replace Paardew but suspends his supposed search for a Pardew replacement until the end of the season.

    Well, Mr clever clogs Charnley, we wonder whether Carver’s performance so far has been enough to convince that the recruitment of an HC from outside has been re-started?

    The answer’s probably no, in the interests of fairness to Carver.

    Appointing Carver as HC would be like putting King Herod in charge of a creche. Equally, retaining Charnley as MD would in a professionally run football club would be unthinkable.

    However, with Ashley running the show, the ridiculous seems to be the norm.

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  • calvinho

    Apr 11, 2015 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #10
  • Marty-Toon

    Apr 11, 2015 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #11

    Don’t start thinkin that Sundrland are a well run club,they’ve been changing their managers every season to try get them out of relegation trouble.
    They let each manager bring in a new set of players which are mostly rubbish and over priced.
    Sound a lot like Freddy Shepherd used to do.
    I’m not saying being skimpy and having a useless uninterested team is any better but the crowd up the road are probably in lots of debt.
    We have an opportunity to do something good on Tyneside with the money that’s coming in-problem is the Ash doesn’t see it that way

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  • WestOzMag

    Apr 11, 2015 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #12

    Carver is shit the squad is shit. Its like a broken record now. Do something about it or accept it

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  • bettyswallocks

    Apr 11, 2015 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #13

    BandB
    I managed to recruit my daughter and some of her friends to go to SD and implement your excellent idea.

    We have two SD stores one in the town centre and one on a trading estate, so we sent three volunteers to each one,

    They tried on numerous items and were very indecisive and demanding of help from the staff.
    They then took some trainers etc. to the checkout and allowed the cashier to process the transaction.

    They all then explained that they had a change of mind and couldn’t buy from Mike Ashley because of what he has done to NUFC and its supporters.

    I am hoping that the management will pass this on to a higher level and that Ashley gets to hear about it.

    I am convinced that if enough people disrupt his SD Empire for the foreseeable future he will have to respond.

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  • WestOzMag

    Apr 11, 2015 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #14

    Oh and the owner is the worst of the lot

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Apr 11, 2015 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #15

    Biffa posted this on NUFC.com after the derby match at the end of the match report.

    “Twelve months on from the discontent that tainted the end of last season, we’re in exactly the same situation. Inevitably, the same calls for action and boycotts have emerged, as what many see as the battle for the soul of this football club continues. Our response to that remains the same: follow your heart, follow your head – you’ll wait a long time for us to tell you what to think or do.”

    Wise words

    I wish some folk on here would stop telling others what to think or do.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 11, 2015 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #16

    jeff

    If only some would heed their own advice

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  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 11, 2015 at 12:31 PM

    Comment #17

    betty

    great story that, would love to see it endlessly repeated. Well done BandB for suggesting it.

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  • bettyswallocks

    Apr 11, 2015 at 12:31 PM

    Comment #18

    Jeff
    Making suggestions how to draw Ashley’s attention to the misery he has caused for many thousands of people does not constitute telling people what to think or do.

    It is all about choice so if you choose to do nothing and are happy with a crap team and an unambiguous owner that’s your choice.

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  • optimistic prime

    Apr 11, 2015 at 12:32 PM

    Comment #19

    Some folk on here would take great pleasure in telling you what to do, wum

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  • bettyswallocks

    Apr 11, 2015 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #20

    Meant to say unambitious owner

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Apr 11, 2015 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #21

    Yeah Mike Asley is very unambiguous

    Ha Ha Ha

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Apr 11, 2015 at 12:37 PM

    Comment #22

    Jeffrey,
    Were those that opposed General Pinochet disloyal gobshites that deserved what they got ?

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  • bettyswallocks

    Apr 11, 2015 at 12:38 PM

    Comment #23

    Jeff

    You must have very strong arms!!

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Apr 11, 2015 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #24

    bettyswallocks,
    Jeffrey is an angry woman trapped in an ugly mans body, he vents his frustration on here.

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  • ganiyu

    Apr 11, 2015 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #25

    are we fighting a relegation battle?? mike ashley needs an experienced manager if he is serious about finishing top 10 every season

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  • bettyswallocks

    Apr 11, 2015 at 12:42 PM

    Comment #26

    To have got out of that abortion bucket.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Apr 11, 2015 at 12:47 PM

    Comment #27

    Under Mike Ashleys ownership we so far have a PL GD of -70

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Apr 11, 2015 at 1:06 PM

    Comment #28

    Jail your silliness is read by many more than actually post.
    The other day you compared Ashley to Pol Pot , today , Augusto Pinochet.
    Oh dear

    And Betty I hope you have no ambitions for your daughter’s future.
    It just needs SD staff to report her and her pals for suspected shoplifting and an official police warning becomes a permanent record , bye bye Uni or a job of responsibility

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  • thevirus

    Apr 11, 2015 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #29

    This man is a total muppet and has no busines being in charge of our club , Geordie or not get rid of him soon before him and Ashley suck what life is left out of this club. can’t stand this situation much longer its dragged on for far to long, action is needed but what action is the best, I don’t know just like people on here are squabbling over the same predicament. I wasn’t a fan of pardew and now we have gotten rid of him the situation is in my opinion WORSE. Carr has scouted us some decent players but should not be in charge of who we sign same as Ashley shouldn’t be in charge of who we sell, that’s the managers job.

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  • jayphoto

    Apr 11, 2015 at 1:12 PM

    Comment #30

    @jeff – saw your post on the previous thread about Ferreyras agents. Surely us paying and playing Gouffran every week is enough of a favour to them to see Messi here next season?
    Agree with your point though, get the feeling newcastle is popular with agents as we give smaller league lesser known players the chance to prove themselves in the EPL and then are pretty happy to sell when they are successful. Big moves are the way agents make money and we don’t stand in their way. Pretty sure we pay over the odds on agents fees too

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  • Average_Contents

    Apr 11, 2015 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #31

    So. Who do we all believe?

    Johnny boy who’s complicit in peddling the club’s bullshit and happy to do so

    or

    Santon and his wife.

    I know who I believe.

    http://mobile.newsnow.co.uk/A/767671855?-11058:809

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  • bettyswallocks

    Apr 11, 2015 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #32

    Jeff

    There’s nothing illegal about negating a purchase. To stay within the law and make our feelings known is the objective.

    You seem to have a different agenda which is to antagonise fellow supporters.

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  • Average_Contents

    Apr 11, 2015 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #33

    What the actual fcuk has deciding you don’t want to purchase something after you’ve taken it to the till got to do with shoplifting.

    Go back to the wum factory from whence you emerged. Thick wum. My god what a waste of spunk.

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  • davetoon

    Apr 11, 2015 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #34

    So you are happy with how things are being managed at the club Jeff?

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  • bettyswallocks

    Apr 11, 2015 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #35

    ” Breaking News”

    Jeff from Benwell has been rushed into hospital for an emergency arse hole transplant.

    Unfortunately the arse hole rejected him.

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  • beermonkey

    Apr 11, 2015 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #36

    jail

    is that al I would have thought it would have been well over 100

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  • scout

    Apr 11, 2015 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #37

    The players are the laziest bunch I have ever seen.

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  • scout

    Apr 11, 2015 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #38

    Jeff I have a criminal record

    Jailhouse rock by elvis

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Apr 11, 2015 at 1:23 PM

    Comment #39

    Reading the statement from Santon does not surprise me it sounds like the club do this a lot when they decide someone is to be sold thing is 2.8 million was crazy to sell him for that !!

    Its almost like we never want to offer someone a new contract so when it comes to negotiations we just get rid or let people run it down till they leave for free or for less than we paid for them !

    Thats not good business logic either

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Apr 11, 2015 at 1:25 PM

    Comment #40

    Grandad by Clive Dunn is worse

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