Siem De Jong And Aarons On Their Way Back


The Newcastle U21 team has a game tomorrow night at home to Derby County, and it looks like Siem de Jong will play in the game and maybe Rolando Aarons too.

Siem de Jong Oldham

Siem de Jong – will play tomorrow night

Siem has made a good recovery from his collapsed lung, and interim head coach  John Carver has given a brief update this morning on both players and this is what he said:

“We’ve got a reserve game tomorrow night, and Siem de Jong will definitely play in that,” “I’m going to check on Rolando and see how he’s feeling.”

“If he’s up for it, we’ll give him some part of the game, but if not we’ll leave him alone for now.” “I can’t see, to be quite honest, either of them being available for Sunday.”

It would be great if we can get some class back into the side, and Siem de Jong and Rolando Aarons are two of Newcastle’s more creative players.

So even if neither is available for the game at home to Tottenham on Sunday, having them back even for the last three or four games of the season would be good.

And we do have Papiss Cisse coming back for the last three games of the season, but Moussa Sissoko embarrassed himself last night by getting himself sent off at Anfield and adding to Newcastle’s woes.

Moussa will miss the next two games.

We are a little worried about Rolando having damaged his hamstrings this season, so if he breaks down again that would be a big problem for both him and for Newcastle United

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90 comments so far

  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #1

    BandB

    I do wish you’d stop promoting me as some kind of surrepticious undercover Ashley aficionado.

    You can’t deny that in the likes of Abeid, Aarons, Perez, possibly Armstrong etc we do possess some rough diamonds with enormous potential to develop if they receive the right type of coaching.

    This would preferably be from a modern, progressive, continental technical coach who preached attacking, free flowing, pass and move football, not to be forever shackled and stifled in a dated, defensive, containment imposed by the current incumbents.

    I do think a lack of a good coaching staff has shown some players in a very poor light and that is 100% Ashley’s fault.

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  • BandB

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #2

    I replied on the previous thread.

    I think this SDJ one deserves a clear run.

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  • BandB

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #3

    He’s going to check on Rolando?

    Is he keeping him a pot in a cupboard under he stairs?

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  • AncientC

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #4

    BlacknWhiteBarmy – Absolutely agree, previous post @2.

    Ashley does not care about the fans opinion so long as they are voting to keep him with their wallets/purses – we already have proof of this.

    There is no evidence to suggest a boycott will not work; it is an avenue that must be explored. If large numbers stay away from the Tottenham game, it could set the stall for further boycotts & better organisation.

    Anybody that believes boycotts would not bother Ashley, are people that believe Ashley isn’t concerned with money – which is an absurd claim to make… Ashley is ONLY concerned with money. A smart businessman gets out of a business he cannot run efficiently anymore, especially if he can sell it to somebody that can. (Being unable to fill the stadium takes away from the efficiency of the business)

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  • firebug666

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #5

    AncientC

    Not to mention that Sky will not televise the games if the stadium is empty all the time, which in turn is less TV revenue.

    Sky did say that the stadiums need to be full for the televised games.

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  • lochinvar

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #6

    Rolando should be sent to a Spa in the Swiss Mountains as a Summer Training camp under the guidance of World Class Physio’s and Medics.
    This season is gone and we should take no risks with him if both hamstrings have been fragile.
    Build up his physical and mental well being in a good sporting environment.
    Then hey next season he would be like a new signing !
    Start afresh with a new European Coach, some new signings and revigorated experienced players. That can’t be achieved by Carver and Co. they just haven’t got the experience, stature or respect to deliver that.

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  • lesh

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #7

    http://thespectatorsview.com/2015/04/14/shocking-photo-newcastle-united-memorabilia-found-dumped-outside-st-james-park/

    Ok, the stuff may be duplicated or damaged but somebody would’ve been happy to take it.

    That’s the thoughtlessness in the club under Ashley. Pity they didn’t dump him and Charnley in the skip instead.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #8

    Ancient,
    I don’t think the financial implications of boycotting will affect Ashley. I’m behind this Spurs boycott because I hope it will be a show of strength and unity from fans – be they protesting before and after as well as boycotting or going into the ground and making their voices heard within the stadium.

    The money Ashley could potentially earn directly from the NUFC coffers is chicken feed compared to his earnings with SD and other stock market ventures. He made more in 2009 then NUFC have in 4 seasons of profit. Ticket revenues – if I remember rightly – were c.£25million in the latest accounts. We made a profit of £18.7 million with a further £25million still to be accounted for. Zero ticket sales (never happen) would likely still see us turn a profit next financial year.

    Boycotting is one tool in the arsenal available to fans, but using it alone, and giving up a voice within the stadium is not the way forward in my opinion.

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  • AncientC

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #9

    firebug666 – Absolutely. There is no business without the customer. Sky & BT are not laying out billions of pounds to televise empty stadiums.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #10

    Firebug,
    People keep talking about Sky not televising the games unless the stadium is full, I have only seen a Richard Scudamore quote to back this up, and to say he backed it up is tenuous in the least.

    Most of the Sky money is evenly distributed throughout the Prem, appearances on TV boost it, but given the size of the new deal, I’d wager that we can still earn what we receive now with very few TV appearances. Not to mention that away fixtures would still likely be televised.

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  • BandB

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #11

    Or poor quality, lower table football.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #12

    BandB,
    That is more likely to put Sky off then empty stadia I reckon, but it doesn’t seem to have affected our regular appearances this season!

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #13

    Ancient,
    Sky and BT’s customers are at home/the pub watching it on TV. Not the punter who goes to games.

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  • kimbo

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #14

    Thursday morning headlines… De Jong and Aarons out for the rest of season.
    On last nights performance we have serious problems with the players we have and basically need a new squad, how much to buy Burnley???

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  • BandB

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #15

    Lil,

    The scheduling of Match of the Day is a pretty fair insight into our attractiveness to the commercial marketing bods.

    Not quite as interesting as Hull (who might actually be trying) but a bit more interesting than Stoke (who aren’t quite so funny as us.)

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  • AncientC

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #16

    Lilongwe Geordie – The financial implications of missing one game, is a financial burden I am certain Ashley would be willing to absorb. If this boycott attracts large numbers, say 10,000 empty seats, with future boycotts on the horizon, then a sustained effort could hurt Ashley to the point he may want to sell.

    It really comes down to what the fans are willing to tolerate. A boycott of 10,000, leading to more boycotts and larger numbers, will, eventually take its toll.

    We were also told that Ashley would not be selling the club, not before “2016” anyway. Should Ashley be considering selling the club at the end of next season, boycotts will help guide him in that decision.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #17

    BandB,
    Haven’t seen MotD for ages, and given Shearer is now the main man alongside Lineker, I’m unlikely to bother next time I am back.

    We will be on sky often enough to keep the cash registers ticking over regardless of how many give up tickets.

    A worrying thought, is there a cap on away ticket sales? If Mike ashley is all about the money earned by NUFC, then what is to stop him increasing the number of away fans to fill in the spaces?

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  • AncientC

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #18

    Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 14, 2015 at 10:32 AM

    Ancient,
    “Sky and BT’s customers are at home/the pub watching it on TV. Not the punter who goes to games.”

    Where did I claim anything to the contrary? I claimed that Sky & BT are not laying out billions of pounds to televise Empty stadiums.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #19

    Ancient,
    How will the boycott financially take its toll? The majority of seats that will be empty will have already been paid for. As I said ticketing revenue is c.£25million, that is easily absorbed by current revenues (and future increased revenues). The club would likely just cut its cloth accordingly and lay off the lower level staff, as they did at Rangers in their cost cutting measures.

    Their is minimal financial impact anything at NUFC can have on Ashley, his money comes from non NUFC operations that we advertise. An empty stadium will likely lead to increased press coverage and photos of the stadium as well as more column inches where SD are mentioned.

    It is a tool, but one that should be used in conjunction with others, not as a lone campaign.

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  • BandB

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #20

    Lil,

    For me, it’s not about the money.

    There aren’t enough of us to put a financial squeeze on him.

    It is about adding the growing perception (among the influential Sunday newspaper columnists as just one example) that Ashley has taken an under-achieving club that was nevertheless affectionately regarded as an English institution and turned it into a low-quality, shambolically-managed, mean-spirited and unsporting football club.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #21

    Ancient,
    You said there is no business without the customer. Lower attendances is likely to lead to more Sky subscribers, and an ability to increase costs as demand is higher.

    How many games have NUFC had televised this season? I don’t know where to find this without going through each game to check. Would be interesting to know how many at home, and how many away. Probably an even split meaning we will still be on Sky often enough to keep the regime happy.

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  • Pop n Wyn

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #22

    A penalty, of course it was, now lets not talk about the fact Liverpool could have been 4 up eh! come on Carver, we were second best in every single position, we did not press the ball all night, no urgency, awful attitude, and as for that lilly livered Sissoko who yet again has managed to worm his way out of some of our vital games with his cynical and in my opinion pre meditated tackle is nothing short of dispicable, for the last two seasons he has went missing, he tried his luck last night again, and i think he thought he would get the straight red, im not sure if that would have meant a four game ban, it backfired though, the kid is not up for the situation when it gets tough, it sickens me, he should without doubt be fined by the club for that act of thugery in the first place, i think we will stay up, not by much though, but i am so glad it looks like they wont get their precious bonus, the whole feel of this team and our great club in general at this moment in time is about as low as i can remember feeling, quite frankly i am embarrased by it all.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #23

    BandB,
    Fully agree that this isn’t about the money. The boycott and protests for the Spurs game should be about showing a unity within the fan base, and raising awareness of how poorly we are being run and how Ashley treats the footballing pride of a city with so much apathy and contempt.

    The financial implications will mean squat to a man who regularly makes more in a year than NUFC have in his entire time here.

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  • BandB

    Apr 14, 2015 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #24

    Lil,

    The perceptions of how this club is run are slowly changing. Amidst the “but he saved your club” meme is a rising tide of “shame, shame” in the national media.

    There will be a tipping point to this, as Ashley’s other troubles multiply, which will make SD’s use of the club as an advertising hoarding much more toxic.

    And at SD he has shareholders, many already asking if this isn’t how SD is really run behind the facade.

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  • AncientC

    Apr 14, 2015 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #25

    Lilongwe Geordie

    “How will the boycott financially take its toll?”

    If if where a sustained boycott – it would be fairly obvious. Unless the club is selling all of its tickets, it is not maximising profits. The number of people wanting season tickets is dwindling, his brand is becoming tarnished, empty stadiums isn’t going to attract the cameras for games… it all contributes towards the business not being as efficient as it should be.

    Putting the club finances in decline, and leaving only Ashley’s “non NUFC operations” as a reason for staying, is still applying pressure.

    I didn’t conclusively claim boycotts would force Ashley to sell, I did claim it “may” sway him into selling, which is possible. The point is, you do not know if he will not sell, nor do I know if he will. That is the whole point of a boycott – to see what shakes out.

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  • AncientC

    Apr 14, 2015 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #26

    I have to go. Have a good day all.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Apr 14, 2015 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #27

    BandB,
    His shareholders are really the only ones who can hold him to account. We can push the issue, but in reality have little sway on the matter. It is why the AO.com should incorporate far more of the anti SD material that is available. A link, or even an embedded video for the documentary on his sweat shops, links to articles from reputable journalists regarding the unethical business practices used by SD etc. If we can push that along side the NUFC related apathy and contempt then eventually his shareholders will be forced to act to help protect their investment.

    I know our main focus is NUFC and the current malaise that Ashley has brought upon the club, but NUFC isn’t Ashley’s main focus. We need to broaden the campaign if we are to stand a chance of being successful.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Apr 14, 2015 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #28

    Ancient,
    I know you are off, but we already aren’t maximising revenues. I will repeat, Ashley doesn’t make his money from NUFC. I’d have to check, but I’d imagine our revenues don’t even match up to his annual earnings.

    As I have said, I’m behind the boycott, but I just don’t think the financial ramifications will have any impact on Ashley. It is more a demonstration of our unity as a fan base (hopefully).

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 14, 2015 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #29

    Good morning blog,

    I think the general feeling is also one of wanting something to believe in again.

    We’ve tried believing in the promises of jam tomorrow, now it’s time to believe in ourselves as fans, rather than allowing this mindset of “we can’t do anything” preventing us from trying to do something.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Apr 14, 2015 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #30

    If the fans owned NUFC 100%, they would have to make profits or persuade a bank to lend the club more money. They couldn’t just buy as they pleased.

    They’d prefer for a rich bloke to the own the club but still want to tell him how to spend his money. You can’t have it both ways. You either own the club yourself and dictate how it’s run or have a rich owner and leave him to get on with it.

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  • BandB

    Apr 14, 2015 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #31

    Lil,

    All we can do is show our discontent, and not attack those who may be moving towards their own tipping point.

    The silence of the many casual spectators in the ground may give the club a feeling of security, but the idea that Ashley is doing a fantastic job and is the best we can hope for is not heard so much as even six months ago.

    I think few time-served supporters have NO gripes. It is a question of encouraging them not to suffer in silence.

    Must be off. Always good talking to you.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 14, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #32

    As has clearly been shown by the wonderful man that is Ashley, the club can and does make profits, even though it still doesn’t explore all avenues of revenue.

    The main issue is the initial capital to buy the club.

    A leading question is, what use is it having someone rich own the club or even having a club that turns a profit, if those funds don’t make it back to the team?

    Then there is of course the issue that I don’t believe anyone has suggested 100% ownership. Anyway.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 14, 2015 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #33

    Band B

    I consider myself patronised. Sorry to write it again on this thread when it was the last post on the last one. I’m sure nobody has ever done that before.

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  • BandB

    Apr 14, 2015 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #34

    Blackley

    It really would be a waste of time anyone trying to disprove your thesis, as your argument is deliberately framed to offer a false choice.

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  • BandB

    Apr 14, 2015 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #35

    Rotonda,

    I asked you a couple of questions relating to the substance of the arguments in your posts without mocking either your argument or yourself.

    It is difficult to see how I can avoid you offence. It’s not even as if I am even actively disagreeing with you.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Apr 14, 2015 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #36

    Blackley,
    You are very much boom or bust. Where is the middle ground?

    One of the worlds most successful clubs is run as a not for profit organisation and has a membership base of 50,000+ voting on boards and other issues at a minimum of every 4 years. There is accountability. Every thing that the club make is reinvested, in players, in development, in facilities, in community projects. I’m talking about La Xeneize, Boca Juniors.

    Why should the club aim to solely make profit at the expense of developing the on-field operations? Why shouldn’t the club be run as a not for profit organisation with a membership base and accountability throughout? Why shouldn’t the club aim for sporting success?

    I’d be very happy with Mike Ashley if he had acted on the 5 year plan. He hasn’t, so I’m not. I don’t want him to chuck his personal fortune at the club, and wouldn’t want an owner who did that like they have at Man City. But I do want an owner that wants this club to compete at a sporting level, rather than just treading water to ensure there are still huge advertising benefits for his other companies.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 14, 2015 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #37

    *100% fan ownership.

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  • BandB

    Apr 14, 2015 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #38

    Lil,

    Blackley is offering a false choice based on specious premisses.

    If you accept the argument on the terms he has laid them out, you cannot win. And he knows that,

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Apr 14, 2015 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #39

    BandB,
    I’m generally happy to discuss with anyone, even if they aren’t willing to alter false perceptions. I’m not being drawn into an argument based on his suppositions, but I am happy to ask him why we shouldn’t want more, and why we only have the 2 choices.

    Anyway, have a good day, I’m sure we will talk again soon!

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  • BandB

    Apr 14, 2015 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #40

    Lil

    And his intent is to happy waste your time refusing to answer, as he did on Sunday night.

    Have a good day.

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