Carver – Vast Majority Of Fans Will Support Us Sunday


There’s no doubt that Mike Ashley messed up big time in January, and it’s hardly surprising that fans are really sick of the way he is running the club, and there has been an Ashley Out campaign formed and it’s supported by the Sack Pardew crew.

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John Carver – vast majority will turn up

The Sack Pardew crew is that group of Newcastle fans who helped save Crystal Palace from relegation, and will probably also be responsible for Alan Pardew  picking up his third Manager of the Season award in three years.

That’s if Alan continues the fantastic record he currently has at Crystal Palace, who were 10 points behind us at the end of the year and are now 7 points above us after the last 13 league games.

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How ironic is all of that?

In yesterday’s press conference John Carver took the view of many fans when he said they have every right to stay away from the game on Sunday, but the Geordie coach still thinks a lot of fans will turn up for the game:

“The ones who come will be right behind the team,” “The boycotting fans are entitled to do what they want to do.”

“If they don’t want to see the game, that’s their prerogative, but the vast majority will be there.”

That’s very much a political statement.

But we have lost five in a row and it’s still possible we’ll not get too many points in the last six games, and let’s face it – if any team can get relegated after being 9th top at the end of the year – it’s got to be Newcastle United.

If Newcastle were safe, the boycott would have a better chance of some success – but boycotts have never worked in the past as fans tend to support the team through thick and thin.

And now it’s thin – very thin.

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22 comments so far

  • sparky55

    Apr 16, 2015 at 8:43 AM

    Comment #1

    it’s like reading lines given to the politicians vying for the PM’s job…just a load of bollox written by the spin doctors with big headlines and no substance.

    Big spend in the summer! How much is big??? where’s the quantification?

    SDJ making his debut on Sunday. That wouldn’t be so we don’t boycott the game would it?

    I’m pleased as a fan not as the HC! Jesus christ we’re all fans but we still want a number not an empty promise like the last 7 years.

    Biggest summer in clubs history. Biggest what? Cock-up, empty promises, spend?,

    The promise should be made about how much the NETT spend will be. We can probably raise 30 million selling players and then spend 30 million buying replacements and the squad will be no better and the NETT spend being zero, zilch nada like it normally is.

    We need 2 promises to be made as minimum.

    1. New big name Head coach on a deserved 2 million a year with Carver et al shown the door
    2. 20 million NETT spend.

    That’s a manifesto promise with substance…not fresh air…and then they’ll blow the protest out of the water.

    Until they do or say something like that then treat them with the contempt they deserve and boycott right through til the end of the season

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  • sparky55

    Apr 16, 2015 at 8:47 AM

    Comment #2

    and that little piece certainly shows us what side of the fence you sit on Ed!

    Not good mate…not good.

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  • firebug666

    Apr 16, 2015 at 8:48 AM

    Comment #3

    This is from the Mag, and shows how our teams are doing under Carver.

    Since Pardew departed we now have the following results:

    First Team: Played 14 Won 2

    Under 21s: Played 11 Won 0

    Under 18s: Played 11 Won 2

    Total of Played 36 Won 4

    http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/04/newcastle-now-4-wins-in-36-games-under-john-carver/?

    So his philosophy of no motivation, not competing, and not winning matches has already filtered through the whole squad from the youth to the first team.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Apr 16, 2015 at 8:50 AM

    Comment #4

    Sparky,
    We don’t need promises of anything. We need firm evidence, and action. They could start negotiations for a new manager anytime, particularly if we go for one currently away from a club – or already set to leave a club.

    Pre contract could have been done for Ings anytime after the 1s of Jan, same with Garbutt of Everton and others. The simple fact is only actual evidence of a head coach having been signed, or top players having signed is sufficient. No more promises.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 16, 2015 at 8:50 AM

    Comment #5

    Ed and anyone who continues with this myth….Sack Pardew did not ultimately lead to Pardew’s departure.

    Palace offering Ashley money for him is what did it. Without that, he’d still likely be hear.

    I’d prefer to credit Pardew Out, but it’s just not true. They highlighted the issue and drove it home though.

    Enough about Pardew, the fact some appear jealous of Palaces position shows where we’re at. There is one man causing this.

    If the club loved Pardew so much, why not negotiate a deal for him to leave at the end of the season? Couldn’t’ Palace have stuck with an interim HC? No, we’ll do that, just give us some money, we’re well skint and those stupid fans will just take it.

    No more.

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Apr 16, 2015 at 8:51 AM

    Comment #6

    On the previous thread thats the thing I fear is we end up with a Sissoko who cannot be bothered to go with a Colo and Tiote who cant be bothered so they either play the “injured” card or go through the motions on the pitch !! Thats probably close to 150k a week going out on those 3 plums not to mention Saylor and Cisse who are doing nothing because of stupidity or being unfit !

    ASHLEY OUT AND MEDICAL TEAM OUT!!

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Apr 16, 2015 at 8:52 AM

    Comment #7

    Firebug,
    That article is ludicrous. How much day to day interaction do you think Carver has with the academy and the development squad? The fact they try to accuse him of being the cause of this misses the point completely.

    It is down to a lack of investment in coaching and development throughout the club, and that comes down to one man and his dog.

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  • firebug666

    Apr 16, 2015 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #8

    sparky55

    Next the blog will be full of SD adverts.

    Carver is just as delusional as the inept one was.

    Most of my mates who would be going to the match are boycotting, and if they are a reference of the Geordie population I can see this boycott being a big one.

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  • sparky55

    Apr 16, 2015 at 8:54 AM

    Comment #9

    Dont blame carver for being promoted above his ability…just blame him for towing the party line with so much vigor it wants to make you puke…but you cant blame him really…we all need a job don’t we!

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  • tequilamag

    Apr 16, 2015 at 8:58 AM

    Comment #10

    Ibiza whilst true that that Pardew out campaign was not the “reason ” he left it must have been a huge factor. When he had previously been linked with Palace he had said they were not big enough for him. What changed?
    IMO it was a combination of issues. I think he knew that Mash would not spend in Jan and frankly I think he was tired of being the lightening rod for the fans hatred of the regime.
    I took no pleasure out of Pardew going (mid season) as I said at the time. Changing manager mid season without a back up plan for his replacement was stupid to say the least and we have suffered ever since.
    I am supporting the boycott but I have no love for the AO people. whoever the F@@k they are.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Apr 16, 2015 at 8:59 AM

    Comment #11

    Firebug,
    Also to be fair, the reserves were relegated last season, and lost a number of players to loan when Carver became first team boss. The headline virtually accuses Carver of being at fault. The rot set in a while ago.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Apr 16, 2015 at 9:00 AM

    Comment #12

    Tequila,
    We would have likely suffered anyway! This time last year we had lost 8 out of 11 games and not scored in any of the defeats. This season we have even more selection problems.

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  • firebug666

    Apr 16, 2015 at 9:00 AM

    Comment #13

    Lilo

    Sorry mate but the Head Coach is responsible for instilling a football philosophy throughout the whole squad, from the youth to the first team, (the gospel according to charmless Charnley 2015).

    He is to over see the development of all the players, and is responsible for instructing the other coaches in his footballing philosophy, and ensuring that football philosophy runs throughout the whole club.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Apr 16, 2015 at 9:04 AM

    Comment #14

    Firebug,
    You think that could possibly occur in the time Carver has been here, let alone immediately without any change of staff? Not a chance mate.

    Even with a brand new coach it would probably take 6 months to instil a philosophy throughout a club given no additional change of staff.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 16, 2015 at 9:05 AM

    Comment #15

    It’s not really helping though turning up to support dross. It’s obvious the players don’t play for or respect carver.

    Carver should fall on his sword and walk away along with the other plastic 3rd rate coaching staff. It’s only his interests he’s got at heart, not the club’s.

    JC is living his dream but at the expense of improving the club.

    A boycott is the last thing yet to be tried and is a real indictment of JC and Ash that fans would even be contemplating it.

    Sadly Ash didn’t bat an eyelid at the sack pardew campaign but he needs bums on seats, otherwise he’ll have to pay salaries out of the Tv money which he obviously earmarks to go elsewhere.

    I’m so used to losing now that the affect of utter depression is wearing off. I would take losing every game to the end of the season and possibly even relegation if it meant the removal of all these parasites.

    The sickening thing is Ash could go from zero to hero with a Klopp or similar, not more dumbed down expectations with Mclaren, whose not the worst but hardly gets the blood pumping.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 16, 2015 at 9:06 AM

    Comment #16

    Tequila…As with most things, I agree it will have been about many factors, rather than just one particular issue.

    I suppose the point I was trying to make, badly, was that ultimately, Pardew left because Palace paid for him, or otherwise he’d likely still be here.

    Personally, I think it’s a good demonstration to those who say why are you protesting, what good will it do?

    It’s a start and applies pressure.

    I understand your “no love”. Even just on the basis of we don’t know who they are.

    I agreed with you, at the time, about the targetting of Pardew. Now however, I do feel it was a vital first step, as it has removed Ashleys best ever sheild / appointment.

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  • John Tudor

    Apr 16, 2015 at 9:07 AM

    Comment #17

    hopefully out of the many thousands that do go into the ground the team will be well supported but ashley and the world made very aware of the shit going on hwtl

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  • firebug666

    Apr 16, 2015 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #18

    Lilo

    I’m not disagreeing, it’s true he has not yet had the time, as for in’s and out’s, every HC would have to deal with it.

    He was (by his own admission) involved in last nights game, and rightly so, he is now the man in charge, what the Mag are pointing out is how the results have dropped off since the inept one left and the inepter (is there such a word?) one took over.

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  • tequilamag

    Apr 16, 2015 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #19

    Ibiza it`s a difficult one.I support the boycott whilst in the past I have been against because I think the best place to have your voice heard is at the match.
    It has not been easy to come to this decision and I cringe when I read some of the comments I am supposed to be finding common purpose with.

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  • Trent Toon

    Apr 16, 2015 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #20

    Boycott is happening! Im in full support

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  • Monument Mal

    Apr 16, 2015 at 1:55 PM

    Comment #21

    Ed, very obviously a piece written by someone living an ocean away form what’s really going on at St James’ Park. If you had shelled out for a season ticket every year and been fed the dross we have to contend with, I think your appraisal of the situation might be rather different. Ashley, Pardew, two sides of the same coin….liars!

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  • Obertan's better than Messi

    Apr 16, 2015 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #22

    Yes Ed,

    What the hell.
    They all suck.

    We need rid.
    Get it?

    The time is now.
    Are you collaborating with the Ashley regime?

    Don’t give the leech your money or your time.

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